Was she possessed by a demon? Or was it multiple personalities?How come some of her memories got messed up?She didn't remember Bear's cat died, she thought it was her cat until Bear corrected her.
>>221769732>demon>multiple personalities Literally the same fucking thing
>>221769732She literally talks to Bear while "the demon" is asleep when she asks him to kill her. It's another entity possessing her body.
>>221769732Why do we need 60 obsession threads you fucking cunt
>>221769732She was Obsessed
>>221769732She has a dual personality. From time to time her true personality resurfaces, proof that she is still there, behind the fabricated one.
The cat thing was stupid because it died a long time before. So Bear would've disposed of the body already.
>>221769847no, bear was obsessed. you see him at the start scrolling her socials. he wanted her to be as obsessed with him as he was of her. it backfired.there are no bad guys. only bad choices.
>>221769732>Was she possessed by a demon? Or was it multiple personalities? I think it was both. There's moments were we see the real Nikki, her actual personality, freak out sometimes like she saw a demon or something before her obsessed personality takes over. Plus the real Nikki said "she was asleep" like it was some demon and begged Bear to kill her.
>>221769732She was indeed possessed by a demon whose entire purpose was to ruin the wish because god forbid you are a white man in Hollywood.
>>221769732There are 2 nikkis. wish nikki and real nikki fighting for control of a single body. Also nikki, both of them, gain supernatural powers once the wish is made, which is how she was able to reverse time walk, break through the side view car window with her bear hands to kill Sarah, and know about Bears wish like when she said its your fault you wished for this, or how real nikki is able to telepathically beg bear to kill her without moving her mouth while wish nikki is sleeping. Real Nikkis being tortured or in pain or struggling or somethings thats making her scream while all this is happening too which is why she was screaming on the phone, begs Bear to kill her, and harms herself, trying to kill herself, whenever she momentarily gains control of the body, though its not clear if at the party when she hit herself in the head with the glass was that real nikki trying to kill herself, or was that freaky nikki trying to beat down real nikki for escaping. Also the real nikki, from the interview with inde, sometimes she pops back in from when she last left off, thats the times that shes confused asking where she is, and sometimes shes able to see exactly whats going on through her eyes. This is factual interpretation of everything that happened based on what the writer/director has said and what was clearly shown in the movie.
>>221770805>bad thing happens to character in horror movie>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA THEY'RE GENOCIDING ME AGAIN SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEDo you ever get tired of being like this?
>>221769750>the same fucking thing
>>221769732she was possessed by a shit writer
>>221769732You could not have possibly asked this retarded fucking question in one of the other active Obsession threads. This retarded dogshit needed its own thread.
>>221769732the director/writer himself said its not a demon possession
i think they were just worried about the real life 'optics' of writing the wish as-is.you could still write a BPD girl who is supernaturally obsessed to the point of not letting a guy see his friends, the sex is amazing, etc. but then i guess that's problematic, or sexist, or something.so i dunno, she's mind controlled but it's only at 80% capacity. they could have worded the wish so there was some exception. >i wish that whenever Nikki and i are together, she loves me the way i love her.just give it that kind of get-out clause.
>>221769732no
https://youtu.be/fC7eiDvoWGE
>>221770834the reverse time walk was honestly kino as fuck
>>221770977This sounds like cope
>>221777158in some parts of the world it actually is
>>221769732The best explanation I’ve come up with is that she’s being possessed by Customer Service using Bear’s own “idea” of Nikki as the template, only that’s why she’s so schizo. It’s at odds with Nikki, and that exacerbated by her *knowing* she’s possessed and Bear seeing his idea manifested and how different it is from actual Nikki, he immediately doesn’t love it back. It’s like it’s stuck in a logic trap.>I want Nikki to love me more than anyone on Earth.>I want Nikki to still be the girl I fell in love with. Those two entities can’t harmoniously exist in the same body. There are hints at that through the movie, things like the photos saying “You, not me.”
>>221779565that's a really good hypothesis actually
>>221769732Why not just get a priest to run an exorcism on her ?
>>221779565It's an allegory for women losing their identity in marriage and motherhood, and being forced to put on a false self.
There is just one thing I don't understand. Demon-Nikki is still, in her own way, obsessed with pleasing Bear. So why does she make him eat the body of his dead cat? Where is the romantic obsession in an act like that, which seems to be nothing but pure hatred and mockery toward Bear?
>>221781471>Demon-Nikki>doing evil thingsShocking.I'm not on board with the demon theory, I think it was real Nikki taking revenge on Bear out of helplessness.
>>221781471>why does she make him eat the body of his dead cat?Demon-Nikki isn't a human. She, or rather it, doesn't know what humans like.>Bear likes his cat>Bear wants to be a food critic>So he'll probably like it if I made him do a food critique on his catIt's like an alien. It's not malicious. It just doesn't understand humans. All it understands is that it loves Bear, because that's what it was created to do
>>221781471She also stood in one spot smiling for 8 hours and pissed and shit on herself. And hit herself in the face with a brick. Those are bad things only to herself. So clearly shes not just doing bad stuff to bear, she just doesnt know how to act like a regular human. Which is why Bear tells her to just be normal and that shes not acting like Nikki.
>>221781551christianity is bullshit btw>demons will flee in jesus name!!>few chapters later>actually jesus will give you demons to "test" you>paul begged to be saved from demonic oppression but god just told him to accept it like the cosmic jew scam he isfake ass hebrew bullshit
>>221781471The cat was a rival for Bear's affections and needed to be profaned as a demonstration of his devotion to Nikki.
>>221781680can confirm this is true, I profaned all of my girlfriend's pets before asking her to marry me
>>221769732She's mid either way,good thing the mc cuck died in the end,fking pathetic
>>221781647Sometimes God will torture you and ruin your life, despite doing everything righteous, just because he placed a Polymarket parlay with Satan
>>221781875You're not bible literate>>221781994>word of godironic when you worship a covenant breakergod promises that if you worship and obey him. you will be blessed and protected and no harm will come to you. yet he throws this all away to make bets with Satan lol.Job's friends kept accusing Job of some grave hidden sin instead of realizing the god they worship is a deceiving piece of shit
>>221782081Read a book on apologetics
>>221781702>>221781471In assume the cat is allegory for wanting to consume her pussy, and that his sexual interest in her is selfish and carnivorous rather than loving. He wants to consume her sexuality, not engage with or experience it with her.
>>221782105>read a book on mental gymnastics to justify a proven fraud religion and a lying corrupt godnah
Nothing about it makes the least bit of sense. Essentially she seems to be a perfect girlfriend for a week or two and then she turns into a violent weirdo retard with no consistency in her actions.It's a good-looking and artificially appealing collection of ideas literally copied from The Simpsons where nothing makes any sense within the set borders if you think about it for two seconds instead of just autistically using it as a vehicle for hating the opposite gender.
>>221782511It's an indictment of men's deficient and selfish conception of love that denies the identity of the woman, and seeks to consume and empty her. His one act of sincere and selfless love was to free her from the curse with his suicide, a genuine act of Romeo, Juliet, Mark Antony, Cleopatra etc. and even that ultimately has be magically compelled out of him, proving he never truly loved her.
>>221782511It all changed when Bear confronted her about lying about her dad having cancer. That broke her.
>>221769816Wrong
>>221782511>Nothing about it makes the least bit of sense. Essentially she seems to be a perfect girlfriend for a week or two and then she turns into a violent weirdo retard with no consistency in her actions.Oh jeez it's almost like she is a crazy BDP bitch and that's why she was called "Freaky Nicky" in school and cut her Dad out of her life.
>>221782689Lol it's about a fucking magic gadget you moron.
>>221782689this really makes me think. have i ever loved a woman in the latter way? i guess not. damn, i'm evil.
>>221770834soooo....a demon.
>>221782748Truly a Wish gf.
>>221782789The nonsensical demon wasn't Nikki though.
>>221782859You mean you were never willing to kill yourself so she could go on living happily without you? Man do you even know what love is?
>>221782924Yes it was all Nicky. Just Nicky in love.
>>221782859https://www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20051225_deus-caritas-est.html
>>221782863no. curry said its not demon possession. it just a second mind that formed inside her brain created by the wish. It started existing when the wish was made and died when the wish ended.
>>221782925If you wouldn't die for your wife or beloved then you should crawl with the loathsome grubs.
>>221783032>if youd truly love her you'd let her fuck other guys if it makes her happy.Nah
>>221783010>curry saidAuthor's dead and honestly the more he talks the less it seems like he even understands why the movie accidentally worked.
>>221783032It's funny because you can find street interviews of random people being asked if they'd rather die or have their spouse die and all the men said die and all the women said spouse.
>>221783032>imagine being this much of a simpcuck
>>221783010round about way of saying demon
>movie is called obsession>people are obsessed about it>this is somehow bad.
>>221783077No a demon is its own entity with its own identity and desires that has the power to possess/mind control someone that has existed before and after the possession. This is just a split personality / second mind that sees itself as nikki which is why its not jealous of bears love/lust for nikki but is jealous of him with other girls, because it sees itself completely as nikki, and has no history before or after the powers of the wish and truly loves Bear, not just a demon fucking with him, as you can see freaky nikki truly loves him when she is crying over his dead body and is going to kill herself about him dying.
>>221783166>as you can see freaky nikki truly loves him when she is crying over his dead body and is going to kill herself about him dyingThat's normal Nikki who just realized that she's killed all her friends.
>>221769732She didn’t think it was her cat she was manipulating Bear
>>221782943No, different personality entirely. Not Nikki
>>221769732she had a terminal case of being a female itis
>>221783071Imagine being that much of a simp. Kek fuck dat bitch
>>221783203Did you watch the movie. While Bear is dying, freaky nikki is crying, and puts the gun in her mouth to kill herself, then when bear completely dies, the wish ends so real nikki comes back, she immediately stops crying, tosses the gun away, pushes bear off of her, then starts crying again after looking around. but before she snapped back to her real self it was freaky nikki and she was crying about bear and was going to kill herself about him dying.
>>221783076True men and true lovers. Christ-like, at least in their pretensions. Unlike certain worms crawling in the rot wondering why they are unloved.
>>221783256>Did you watch the movieNah I just read the Wikipedia synopsis and shitpost.
>>221783203Nikki's final scream is the ick from the trauma of being with Bear. Hence why Nikki's first free act is to push and discard Bear's body to the floor.
>>221772865On that phone call you can clearly hear her screaming in 'hell' so if she wasn't possessed by a demon, what was it?
>>221783061It's a supernatural thriller about a whimpy guy being tortured by a crazy hot girlfriend.It's not that deep. Most guys will see some shit in Nicky that reminds them of girls they know and their antics but that's about as far as the meta-level goes.
>>221783360Nowhere is it said shes in hell. Being in pain or struggling and screaming does not mean the only possibility is that you in literal hell.
>>221783305>christ like>if you don't love me back as your god I will set you on fire foreverlmao really?
>>221781647go worship weather you pagan poser
>>221783402still a step above from worshiping dead rabbis lol
>>221783360Just a glimpse inside the head of the average crazy chick.
>>221783390Tbf even if she was in hell, it doesn’t mean demonic possession.Demon guy is a retard and will die on this hill.
>>221783219Nope that would really go against the wish and doesn't explain her generally cat-cooking crazy shit.Nicky was always a trainwreck, her being forced to be in love just amplified it all.
>>221783384>It's a supernatural thriller about a whimpy guy being tortured by a crazy hot girlfriend.Yeah. Everything around that is nonsensical and contradictory though.
Doesn't matter if it's a demon or a split personality, it's a circumstance being imposed on her against her will
>>221783480Cat cooking is a sexual analogy of the film (pussy) to Bears carnivorous consumption of Nikki's sexual being, rather than a mutual enjoyer and participant.
>>221783444>>221783360she's just in complete anguish she has to fuck someone she friendzoned bro
>>221783480Nope. I can see your mistake though. You’re getting hung up on Bear’s use of the nane/word Nikki.The wish interprets Nikki as the physical vessel not the conscientiousness within the vessel.Hope that clears that up for you.
>>221783393As in willingness to die on the cross for others, and willingness to bear the cross for others. They're basic literary and ethical tropes, no need for fedora-philistine quibbling. No body cares that your lunatic Christian parents/pastor made your childhood unpleasant.
>>221783554>die on the crossGoing on a 3 day vacation to your Dad's 2nd apartment only to come back isn't dying tbqh
>>221769732Grock replace the blood with jiz
>>221783554That's his choiceHe could've created perfect world instead>if you don't love me I'll tortureChristians don't realize this is EXTORTION not salvationIf you went up to a girl and told her to accept your love or you'll pour gasoline on her they'll lock you upbut when rabbi yeshua does it you call it divine love lmao. you worship deranged jewish narcissists
>>221783664Post the part where Jesus talks about torturing you.
>>221783574>>221783664As a fedora-philstine whose childhood was made unpleasant by their lunatic Christian parents/pastor, can you not understand that a humanistic or purely literary account of Christ's death: that he was an ordinary person who choose to die for others, or that it is a fictional story, strengthens the ethical principle of self-sacrifice and selfless love that occured in the gospel narrative, and the concept of being Christ-like to others?Your quibbles are dopey and philistine.
>>221783737>>221783751>if you don't obey me I will put you in magic lava>he died because he claimed to be god.. then diedcan you stop lying about the nature of your cult lol
>>221783823Christ didn't place conditions on his self-sacrifice or the atonement it effected, that is the point of love, that it is a giving of self, not a reciprocal reward. Bear would be Christ-like when he kills himself to liberate Nikki because it is a giving of self without reward, but it is love compelled by magic, and thus proves he himself never truly loved her.
>>221783924>didn't place conditionshere you go lying again. anyone who doesn't accept jesus is threatened with eternal fire lol
>>221783996Battered wife syndrome
>>221783823Could you post the verses about that, you seem to know your Bible well.
>freaky nikki admits at one point that she knows bear "wished for this"implies that it's some otherworldly demonthat the willow support guy is able to connect bear to nikki's screaming subconscious also implies this imho
>>221783996There are no conditions or limits on Christ's love, self-sacrifice, and atonement. All sins were born on the road to Gothaga. That is what love is, and what it means to be Christ-like to others. Something Bear needed magic to understand.
>>221784032Well yeah it's some sort of magic afoot.
>>221772865What does the "not me" scene mean, then in the movie? The director is trolling.
>>221772865https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_the_Author
>>221784154That it's a false consciousness and her identity has been usurped, like many wives and mothers lose their identities to their husband and children.
Is /tv/ being raided? Why are there 20 threads about this movie?
>>221784288literally her old personality screaming somewhere. Possession or not seems like a technicality to me that doesn't matter, that girl isn't her.
>>221784330incel website
I thought it was pretty clear that Nikki's soul was replaced with something else from another world. This was spelled out for us in the telephone scene where we hear the real Nikki screaming for help. We see the real Nikki come through sometimes, like when she's sleep talking, and when she freaks out after kissing Bear, but then the other Nikki takes over again. Not multiple personalities. Her memories weren't messed up. It was just the other Nikki being a terrible liar.
>>221784387 There's no way they are all legit, even good movies don't get that many threads months after release.
>>221784391The director has already contradicted several choices and scenes and things that are obviously meant to mean something completely else than what he now says in interviews which makes me wonder if he's actually stupid or just cowardly trying to not to displease rabid feminist cunts.
>>221784461My point being that what you see on the screen spelled out to you is obviously true but there are weird and honestly retarded narratives from the people making it out and people also repeat those now in these threads. Like "oh Nikki was totally into Bear, he should have just said something". Nigga you just made a fucking movie where you spell out that she's not into him but the other girl is.
>>221784391It's an allegory for women's loss of identity in marriage/relationships and motherhood, how they cease to be being-for-itself and become instruments for their husbands/bf/children.
>>221784461Both? Remember that a film can afford to be "free" until it earns a certain amount. If it earns too much money, it becomes a target.
>>221784519>It's an allegory for women's loss of identity in marriage/relationships and motherhood, how they cease to be being-for-itself and become instruments for their husbands/bf/children.Nigga, WTF...
>>221784587It happens to men and fathers too. Think of the Rugrats classic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIR68SbPg-UIt's stronger with women though, especially in the context of the film with its one-way love where the woman is expected to mirror herself to the man and be an instrument for his needs and validation.
>>221769732She's a computer program shittily coded by Bear
>>221784519No. It's just an allegory for the constant paranoia that women feel when someone they don't desire has attraction towards them.
>>221784710>>221784519>accountability is so alien to foids they call it loss of identity
>>221769732In my opinion she was possessed.She didn't love Bear, so when Bear's wish was for her to love him she had to fundamentally change as a person. The wish would basically take away any of her autonomy, so the way the willow did this was by putting Nikki's soul in the background and having some kind of eldritch presence or hellish spirit inhabit the body, maybe some kind of succubus or demon of obsession to fulfill Bear's wish of her loving him more than anything in the entire world.
>tfw no Sarah gfBear is so retarded
Split personalities have been likened to possession before. For reasons that are obvious. Obsession threads are funny.
>>221770834What if real Nikki is stuck in some eldritch hellscape?>>221783010Due to how unnaturally she behaves I'm inclined to believe it is some sort of inhuman being. Maybe not actual demon from hell, but some sort of unnatural thing that should not exist that is trying to be human while fulfilling Bear's wish.
>>221784330It's a good movie anon
I want to know more about the customer service.They're saying that "the one wish willow isn't actually evil, it was just Bear's wish" but clearly there's something very wrong with the custom service.Of course that would take away from the mystery so it's probably better to not explore that if there was going to be another movie in the same universe, but that phone call with the customer service and real Nikki screaming was so interesting and kino
>>221786586What movie?
>>221786716movie
>>221786733That's true there are some good movies, I saw a good movie once 5 or 6 years ago, can't remember the name but I remember leaving the theatre feeling good. That was just a fluke though.
>>221786763I see some movies too, but for the most part I only go to the theater if it's because my mom or my dad wants to see something and spend time with me, so I go for them. Otherwise I think I'd only go very rarely
>>221774367>go to work>She flees to Argentina because she no longer loves you the way you love her>also she remembers the forced love sex and hates youIf he just wanted the surface love "one off quickie" his love actually was, he could've had that post-cat dropoff, it was there for the taking and she did this before with his coworker, she'd probably do it again for him.But he wanted more.
>>221770668I assume she dug it up.
to be a demon it should have some connection to religious loreit's just an "entity" created by the one wish willow to fulfill the wish of loving bear, except it lacked basic human sociability
>>221770668he put it in the fridge because he didn't know what to do with it, as part of his general indecision
Something I never see people mention when questioning whether or not it was possession or not is that whole ending scene where Bear is saying he just wants her to be Nikki & she's completely breaking down saying "I can't be Nikki". Imo that last bit was total confirmation that it is some kind of other being that's taken over Nikki's body and has done it's best to fulfil the wish of loving him more than anything, but isn't a human at all and can't just "be Nikki". The message to me is that if someone doesn't love you then that's literally who they are, to fuck with that is to take away who they are. Essentially possessed Nikki is saying that she can't be Nikki because Nikki doesn't love him.
>>221791050genuinely solid, wish Nikki was broken because she couldn't fulfil the wish (loving him) AND be someone that didn't love him
>>221790850We saw him bag it up and throw it in the garbage though, didn't we?
>>221791050she says "i CAN be nikki" not I cant be. Either way its a different personality clearly whether she says I can or i cant. She'd answer it as I am nikki if she was exactly the old nikki not just saying whether she can or cant be. but anyway the clearest scene that theyre seperate is when freaky nikki is sleeping but real nikki is still able to be awake and talking to bear.
>>221769732>She literally talks to Bear while "the demon" is asleep when she asks him to kill her. It's another entity possessing her body.Her hypergamist social programming is fighting her true self after Bear frees her with his wish.
>>221791180headcanon is in his indecision he fished it out like>ohhhh...>Maybe I'll bury it later........
>>221791304i wonder if you really believe this.
>>221784461>The director has already contradicted several choicesLike what? Are you one of those retards who thinks he actually said “Nikki isn’t possessed” because other people keep saying that in these threads?
>>221769823Movie lives up to its name
>>221791653https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYUm4-4hpx4at 56:10- He refers to her as "person", "thing", "entity", "it", "spell Nikki".- She was a newborn entity, born right when Bear made the wish.- The reason she mixed up "my cat died" with "your cat died" was because she didn't immediately have the context fully down in her mind.So from word of god himself, it was a brand new entity formed by the wish inside her mind. It was not some demon from hell that came up and possessed her bodyplus other interviews where he says shes ont possessed
It's just a normal BPD woman when she chooses not to take her meds
>>221791977I hate people like you. Always feel duped when I discuss the movie only to realise the other party is discussing an interview with a director.
>>221792095Hes both the director and the writer. So yes everything he says about his own fictional world is correct. Are you stupid?
>>221791977>it was a brand new entity formed by the wish inside her mindYeah that’s what being possessed means
My main issue with the ending is how quickly Bear died from overdosing on oxy. Doesn’t work that way.
>>221791370Of course I do. It's natural to give love. It's not natural to be part of hookup culture. Her real self was a loyal partner. Not just women, but men, naturally love those who love them and return love with loyalty. Hookup culture is not freedom, it is enslavement of the self. Those who hook up lightly are betraying their true selves. What passes as "chill" is not chill. It is a facade. Real chill is settling down and enjoying loyal companionship to one person. She was stable until Bear's shithead friends convinced him her love was not real, which it was. Bear was tempted by a homewrecker, who was then killed by the jilted lover. Nikki's false self wanted him to kill her. When she wished for Bear to love her, they would have been happy together if they could have evaded capture, which they easily could have in their unified purpose driven by mutual love. When Bear died, she reverted to her false self and was no longer happy.The director and the character he plays in the film both say she's not possessed and that she's driven by love. It's not fake just because he wished for it. He had a responsibility to love her back because it was real.
