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Bran the Builder is conjuring the Others from the weirwood roots in the crypts of Winterfell. Discuss. Edish.
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A bear there was, a bear, a bear!
All black and brown, and covered with hair.
The bear! The bear!

Oh come they said, oh come to the fair!
The fair? Said he, but I'm a bear!
All black and brown, and covered with hair!

And down the road from here to there.
From here! To there!
Three boys, a goat and a dancing bear!
They danced and spun, all the way to the fair!
The fair! The fair!

Oh, sweet she was, and pure and fair!
The maid with honey in her hair!
Her hair! Her hair!
The maid with honey in her hair!

The bear smelled the scent on the summer air.
The bear! The bear!
All black and brown and covered with hair!

He smelled the scent on the summer air!
He sniffed and roared and smelled it there!
Honey on the summer air!

Oh, I'm a maid, and I'm pure and fair!
I'll never dance with a hairy bear!
A bear! A bear!
I'll never dance with a hairy bear!

The bear, the bear!
Lifted her high into the air!
The bear! The bear!

I called for a knight, but you're a bear!
A bear, a bear!
All black and brown and covered with hair

She kicked and wailed, the maid so fair,
But he licked the honey from her hair.
Her hair! Her hair!
He licked the honey from her hair!

Then she sighed and squealed and kicked the air!
My bear! She sang. My bear so fair!
And off they went, from here to there,
The bear, the bear, and the maiden fair
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I would kill every single one of you for my Prince Daeron
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"And who are you?" The proud Lord said
"That I must bow so low"
Only a cat of a different coat
That's all the truth I know
In a coat of gold or a coat of red
A lion still has claws
Mine are long and sharp, my lord
As long and sharp as yours
And so he spoke, and so he spoke
That Lord of Castamere
But now the rains weep o'er his hall
And not a soul to hear
"And who are you?" The proud Lord said
"That I must bow so low"
Only a cat of a different coat
That's all the truth I know
And so he spoke, and so he spoke
That Lord of Castamere
But now the rains weep o'er his hall
And not a soul to hear
And so he spoke, and so he spoke
That Lord of Castamere
But now the rains weep o'er his hall
And not a soul to hear
and so he spoke
(That Lord of Castamere) Lord of Castamere
(But now the rains) weep o'er his hall
(And not a soul to hear)
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I have a clerkship interview today. Wish me luck!
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THOSE CHILDREN ARE-
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>>221783689
Drink some wildfire before you go
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>>221783739
Reminder that wildfire is entirely safe to drink, but the Maesters poisoned Aerion's cup.
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>>221783638
>Alienates the nobility of King's Landing
>Alienates the bastards she gave WMDs to
>Alienates the commander of her Navy
>Alienates the High Septon
Viserys really fucked up naming her as his heir
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>>221783739
I might actually have a beer in the parking lot, for my nerves.
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muh smallfolk
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how do you faggots watch house of the dragon
are you actual niggers or do you just ignore the niggers
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>>221783638
Why did the White Walkers turn out to be such nothingburgers in the show? What even was the point in building them up for so many seasons.
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>>221783638
prev thread >>221774682
op is a faggot
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It's really funny how people say Gurm's writing is amazing for recognizing people aren't all good or all evil then in the same breath go off on poorly constructed rambles about how monarchies and feudalism are evil and Westeros needs democracy
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>>221783781
Once again, her and Alicent are the biggest examples of why having agnatic-cognatic succession is a shitty idea in Crusader Kings.
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All the casting is pretty good if you ignore mysaria
same for the environments and sound design, even the props and costumes

It's incredible how shit the writing is in comparison, like every other aspect of the show is handled by professionnals with a modicum of passion, whereas the writers are rolling in their own shit and pretending to be doing the work
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>>221783856
>All the casting is pretty good
counting or not counting velaryons?
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>>221783817
D&D hated all the magical aspects of ASoIaF which is a shame because it's a genuinely great part of the worldbuilding and well utilized in the story. So instead of the magical aspects tying into the greater themes of the series and personal drama of the characters, we get them shoved to the side when it's not providing spectacle and absolutely retarded shit like the long night being one episode lmao.
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>>221783836
>about how monarchies and feudalism are evil and Westeros needs democracy
Democracies are objectively superior to autocracies, yes. Every country would be better with it even if democracies aren't a hundred percent perfect. Monarchies are only good if the ruler is a gigachad but that's always a dice roll.
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>>221783815
I was thinking of stopping, but then someone entered and now keeps me going
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>>221783882
Just like the bloviating morons I'm talking about you completely missed the point of my post.
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>>221783800
dont they will smell it
unless you are germanic then its probably ok.
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>>221783815
I watch for Mother
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>>221783880
Isn't ASoIaF a low-magic setting tho?
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>>221783638
Im hatewatching this dogshit
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I was weaned on venom, Anon. Any armchair historian pontificates about feudal politics near me will rue it.
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>>221783866
they're fine, Daela is a chore to watch too though, I get heated thinking about the fact they merged her and Nettles together and they've started to make Daemon lie about her
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>>221783911
Thanks. I won't.
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>>221783866
Vaemond's actor deserves the title of honorary white.
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Bittersteel and Bloodraven both loved Shiera Seastar, and the Seven Kingdoms bled.
—Barristan Selmy's thoughts
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>>221783781
>Alienates the smallfolk with police violence
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>>221783925
Why would you subject yourself to that?
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We have pissed in our beds. Host, I admit that we shouldn't have done this. If you ask: Why? There was no potty
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>>221783925
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>>221783866
loved the Velaryons no cap
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Fat pink masts!
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>>221783950
I like the sounds Caraxes makes.....
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>>221783941
Based
Blessings of the seven who are one upon you.

Treat yourself afterwards, anon.
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>>221783914
No. Especially as the books progress, magical characters and artifacts become more and more relevant to the story.
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>>221783945
what movie?
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>>221783970
damn this fat boy is sexy!
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>>221783977
>Treat yourself afterwards, anon.
I have a bottle of Angel's Envy Rye.
I'm doing six hours of driving today for this interview.
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>>221783980
ASOIAF is pretty much low magic. Even in the later books magic is extremely rare. It's not in the daily life of people like something like LOTR would be.
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>>221783983
The baguette version of the beauty and the beast
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>>221784001
>6 hours drive
man im so happy I got my wfh job. kudos to the stamina.
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Anyone who wants to shit in this place is advised to move along. If you act contrary to this warning, you will have to pay a penalty. Children must pay [number missing] silver coins. Slaves will be beaten on their behinds
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Is there any way to salvage Alicent's character?
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>>221784036
Death
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>>221783946
Also that, forgot to mention it (all over some graffiti too)
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>>221784009
I dread to call it a low-magic setting when it's the weirwoods causing fucked up seasons for the entire world. Sure, magic isn't constantly shown to us(aside from Dany's dragons), but it's powerful and very relevant in-setting.
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>>221783815
>how do you faggots watch house of the dragon

I've given up and will wait until the season concludes, then speedrun thru it just to see how truly bad it is.
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>>221784036
Have her cry when she gets told that Criston Cock is dead.
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>>221784065
Apollinaris, the doctor of the emperor Titus, shat well here
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Thoughts on Cersei?
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>>221784076
sexmilf
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>>221784076
She would never have killed the ratcatchers
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>>221784076
Too ugly. Cersei is supposed to look like a blonde bimbo character. Also wtf gurm makes incestuous sisters too hot.
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>>221784076
Publius Comicius Restitutus stood right here with his brother and did a big shit.
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>>221784076
Raped and beheaded by Aegon's goons not even 200 pages into WoW hopefully.
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>>221783993
Did George make this image between bouts of orgiastic overeating?
>>221784036
The hightowers use their super special intellects to make a gun. Ally shoots herself in the head with it.
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>>221784076
>*gets crushed to death by easily avoidable rubble*
Are Lannisters retarded?
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>>221784108
Amplicatus, I know that Icarus is buggering you. Salvius wrote this.
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>>221784076
mannish
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>>221784108
I honestly think Westeros might be really close to unlocking gunpowder tech. Fuck wildfire is already pretty busted.
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>>221783993
Mournful.
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>>221784064
I think what separates low magic settings with high magic is the persistence of magic in daily life and environment of the world. Sure, ASOIAF has many fantasy like things - artifacts, dragons, magical creatures and undead elves or something. But they are very rare in the setting and most civilians just live in a normal medieval environment. Or the Witcher. Contrast this to LOTR or Wheel of Time where magic is prevalent in the very fabric of the world
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>>221784036
take aemonds cock
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>>221783689
Good luck lad
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>>221784103
Secundus likes to screw boys.
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>>221784123
Go bugger your mother in a pigsty, shitass.
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>>221784076
Love her in the books (she's unironically a hilarious character) but can't stand her in the show. The writers insistence on keeping Lena Headey way past her expiration date and making her far more competent than she is in the book (which translated into massive amounts of plot armor) made her unbearable to watch. She must have been getting fucked by one of the Dumb and Dumber team.
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Why weren't other Lannisters from different eras as smart as Tywin or Tyrion?
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>>221784199
Lann the clever
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>>221784176
>Herculaneum bar, next to a drawing of a phallus: Handle with care
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>>221784180
How is she hilarious in the books?
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Lucky Daeron got to kiss Zelda.
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>>221784199
Being dumb is a tradition. Tywin's father Tytos was inept.
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>>221784212
She is hopelessly delusional, has ridiculously high opinion of herself and her intellect and every "master plan" of her backfires in her face. Kinda like your average woman, I guess.
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>>221784214
Who will they cast as Ganondorf?
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O walls, you have held up so much tedious graffiti that I am amazed you have not already collapsed in ruin
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>>221784214
Cast Ormund as Ganondorf.
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>>221784212
She’s completely insane and her paranoia pushes her to do stupid shit.
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>>221784199
Tywin and Tyrion are the exception. Most Lannisters are actually Jamie-tier of intellect. Albeit Tyland was pretty capable.
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>>221784248
timmi-chan
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>>221784212
The book 4 she's turned into a fat alcoholic(not unlike Robert) who thinks she's the smartest person in Kingslanding.
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are the asoiaf audio books worth listening ?
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>>221784273
When she starts hallucinating Tyrion inside the walls of the red keep and has a tower burned down because she thinks he’s in it is when I knew she finally went off the deep end.
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>>221784285
Yes
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>>221784273
>The book 4 she's turned into a fat alchoholic
cow titties cersei is real??
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>>221784212
During her walk of atonement, her mental breakdown is so severe that she hallucinates Tyrion laughing at her from the crowd, alongside other ghosts from her past.
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Can someone give me a rundown of the last four episodes? I don't really feel like watching the show anymore but would like to keep current with the events since I do like visiting these threads now and then.
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>>221784160
Would that mean 40k is a low magic setting too?
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>>221784358
40k is a magitech setting, anon. Totally different.
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>>221784160
>Contrast this to LOTR
Average LotR human has never seen magic or elves in his entire life.
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Who’s the Cersei of Warhammer?
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Prince Baelor was the firstborn, Prince Maeler sprang out last

Daemon was the bastard, so they kicked his bastard

Grass is green in summer, green grass I adore

But grass is red all over, when you kill a rebel

Horses die in battle, this battle was the front

Blackfyer's not a trueborn, he came from the wrong

Country was in peril, the Anvil was a rock

The Hammer smashed the bastard with his giant veiny...

Host of Dornish spearmen
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>>221784358
>>221784369
I think one thing they share in common is that they're sort of in an stagnant era. Very little progress technologically, and magic although powerful is not something the average person would see.
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Cute and canon.
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>>221784358
40k is hardly a fantasy in the classical sense. I guess it bears slight resemblance to Elric series but it's really its own genre.
>>221784371
The world was literally created by magic gods fighting with dozens of different races inhabiting it. 8 ft gargantuan humans, dwarves, elves, hobbits, magic trees, orcs, etc.
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John Snow is dead. Does that mean he is part of the emeny now? Will his corpse rise?
The queen that is shamed by being force to walk naked? I suggest the revenge might mean the entire order is massacred by her troops. Possibly along with much of the city.
The dragon lady? She may now have a new husband to farther complicate things.
The Dwarf will rule the city far better than anyone suspects.
The violence of this show is far from over.
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>>221784369
>Totally different.
Besides available technology, how? The average imperial citizen does not see a space marine in his life. he will very likely not interact with psykers (and if he does its probably not gonna end well). What magical entity does he encounter?
Replace crossbows with Lasguns, whats the difference? (yes hyperbole but you get the point)
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Is Craster /ourguy/?
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>>221784460
pls protect the law anon
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>>221784478
he final scene of the season sees the Lord ommander pouring over letters when his young steward Olly bursts in with the first bit of good news Jon has received probably since the start of the show: his uncle Benjicot has been spotted alive by one of the Wildlings who was at Hard Home.

John rushes out to speak with him, pushing through a crowd of his black brothers... only to be met with a cross with the words 'traitor' written on it.

The grim realization sinks in as he turns and is stabbed in the gut by Alastair Thorn.
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>>221784437
Yeah, but average guy doesn't interact with these, with the exception of dwarves. Eomer's entire knowledge of elves is 'there is a spooky witch in the wood'.
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>>221784450
What kind of AI summary is this
It even get Jon's name wrong
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>>221784171
uh that's her son you sick fuck
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>>221783815
I don’t watch it, I just hang out in the fandom spaces to add a chud energy and bully the normies who invaded my hobby, my favorite secondary world
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC1aRnjFOMg

i want to lick her teeth and fuck her mouth and kiss her pussy
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>>221784352
Rape.
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>>221784285
Phenomenal. I have the narrators voice in my head whenever I read them forever now.
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>>221784399
Daemon is trueborn though.
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>>221784568
this but daeron
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>>221784568
indian
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>>221784568
simmer down, incel
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>>221784479
???
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Were there any castings which you initially disliked but then later grew fond of? For me it was the guy who played Criston.
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>>221784568
she's married btw which doesn't stop George for simping for her. She's going to get the first advance copy of The Winds of Winter and it's going to be incredibly upsetting
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>>221784478
I might be a pedophile, but I am not a daughterfucker.
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>>221784625
She grew on me.
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How come Westeros doesn’t want to accept a ruling queen?
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I AM OTTO HIGHTOWER
FIRST OF HIS NAME
HAND OF THE KING
AND A TRUE ANDAL

NO RAT CATCHERS WILL BE HARMED BY MY ORDER
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>>221784644
Otto invented replacing ratcatchers with cats though
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>>221784581
>fact checking a limerick
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If the ratcatchers were alive, King's Landing wouldn't have gotten burnt down by Dany.
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>>221784596
my cock it pink that that back
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>>221784668
In the book. In the show its argument over ratcatchers that gets him tossed in the dungeon.
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>>221784638
queen helaena please... just a sip of milk
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>>221784705
Dragons don't produce milk.
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Ormund will be Ahor Azai.
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>>221784638
Fake or AI.
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>>221784694
No, Larlys throws him into the dungeon. The discussion about the rats makes him lose his Hand of the King Badge.
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>>221784705
>>221784711

Go back to your faggy hilts hurt YouTube channel your retarded pro green shit is not welcome here
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>>221784714
Hey you fucking idiot go back to hilts hurt
Before you're banned from here for being a gaypedo
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>>221784609
>love a woman so much you would kiss her pussy till she blasts on your face
wow such incel
>>221784636
has she talked with grrm? her husband can watch.
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burlington bar S3E4 part 2 reaction when?. They've been very jewy with their uploads
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HOLY
FUCKING
AURA
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>>221784735
gaypedo general
gaypedo show
gaypedo franchise
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HOLY
FUCKING
AURA
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>>221784724
>>221784735
Based greenjeet hater.
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Which of the seven kingdoms has the best food?

Is Vale of Arrhn the worst because it's just shitty birds and rocks?
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>>221784789
Probably the Reach since they a have a lot of fertile land. I'd imagine they can grow many different kinds of crops.
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>>221784568
Very green-coded post
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Did it take you until the poop sub-plot to realize this series was shit?
Be honest.
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>>221784751
>has she talked with grrm?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qit712ttkYo

I don't think in person yet, but somehow he started watching her youtube channel, emailed her then starting mailing her personalized signed books lol
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>>221784789
the iron islands has probably the worst, its just rotting fish and disgusting potatoes
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>>221784765
Trannies see a loving father and immediatlely have their trauma/fetishes projected onto.
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RAPE RAPE RAPE

I LOVE BEING A RAPER
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>>221784714
can one andal man stand against a horde of valyrian savages?
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>>221784724
>looks around and sees 99% greens and one tranny black seething
Lost friend? Reddit is that way
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>>221784816
>I think hope you envy these
what did he mean by this?
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>>221784816
That dedication is longer than what he's put down for Winds in the last five years.
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>>221784816
It sucks that so many fantasy book series nowadays are targeted towards femoids.
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>>221784755
FOR MY WIFES SON AAAAAAAA
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>>221784883
wrong, he's saying "I think I hope you envoy these"
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>>221784876
No shit anyone dumb enough to watch house of the dragon after fours years of consistent shit is going to be a absolute cretin of a person.
Did you think people with fused fontanelles watched your show?
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>>221784935
I see
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>>221784888
At this point we can just have an AI analyze the existing books and come up with Winds of Winter instead.
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>>221784212
she's so fucking sure she's a genius that she puts a guy who styles himself "prince" and who no one knows much about except that he's maybe a Velaryon in charge of the royal fleet
Bro was actually a pirate, and left with all the ships as soon as he got the chance; everyone saw it coming, but not Cersei (she was fucking him; he had that brotherly phenotype she can't resist)

She's so incompetent, one of my favourite theories is that she actually did kill Jon Aryn, she just doesn't know it
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>>221784765
>>221784822
The way Daeron flinches at him does show he's been properly disciplined by his daddy in the past, and he might show up in his room without a belt if he disappoints him
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>>221784789
Riverlands. Hot Pie works at the Inn At The Crossroads
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>>221785040
this post speaks volumes about yourself, anon
I'm sorry your dad raped you
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>>221784755
>Maester Pavel?
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>>221785083
>implying that guy had a father
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>>221785040
Daeron is his squire, he got many clouts in the ear.
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>>221785083
>>221785098
At least we'd maybe have something in common if he did
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>>221781073
>Why did you dislike the comparison?
Because it's fucking retarded. On multiple levels. First, the Nazis weren't the ones who actually pulled off the Manstein plan and put Fance under German occupation. The person who made the plan? Old Prussian aristocracy (like 90% of German high command). The guy who actually performed the sickle cut? Hated the Nazis so much he ended up getting executed.

Secondly, the show's context. The greens have been humiliated, by losing both the fishfeed and then by having the Hightower host, a proud fighting force, being made a fool by the victorious Daemon. They did not enter Tumbletown as brilliant strategists, they entered under a desperate gambit, knowing they stand no chance against the blacks and their dragons.

Thirdly, and most damningly, is the complete ignorance of what the Dance even is. Claiming an army raised from the Reach, occupying a stronghold in the Reach, is the equivalent of the Germans occupying the French in WW2. By WW2 the Germans and the French are extremely bitter rivals (more so the Germans, who still feel the humiliation of the Versailles treaty). The Dance is a civil war between two factions who both believe they are the legitimate rulers. The people fighting said war, in this case, are all people from the Reach. It's not entirely impossible the Hightower host even has levies from Tumbleton or levies who have friends or family there. What happens is closer to say, Rome invading Anatolia or the Balkans during the Mithridatic wars, and having to reconquer towns or cities who had pledged their allegiance to the enemy and in the process potentially running into ex legionaries who now live there peacefully.

And if pulling references from Roman history is too out there, then the writers, who I assume are Americans, needn't look far because the American civil war is right there.
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>>221785213
Also, if the writers still want to cling to their retarded Nazi analogy, then the Hightowers being Prussian elite, fighting to overthrow the Nazi proponents of the high command (Targaryens) makes a lot more sense.
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>>221784789
Just like in the Real world, the best food would be in the equivalent mediterrenian region, so the north regions of dorne or sth.
>No shark steak thou
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>>221784810
I almost quit in S2 but I really like S3 so far. Its slop compared to KOTKS or early GoT but its quite entertaining and the production value is pretty good. I like the costumes and sets.
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what the heck is wrong with y'all chuds?
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>>221785294
>haha redditors are idiots
>lets open reddit to see
based retard
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>>221785294
go back & stay back
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I jack off on >>221784564's back just so I can see my load gleaming wetly on his brown skin.
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>>221785294
too rowdy for you Dean Bitterman?
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>>221785294
what side of the chud fandom are you? team A or team B?
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This is the last thing a bastid sees. We scanned brains of 100 bastids at the moment of their death and this is the last image their brains generated.
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Sex with fake Daeron
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>>221785420
Gay
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>>221785425
>having sex with a woman is gay
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>>221785371
why is everything always about sex according to these people?
Also B
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>>221785420
i see you are team B
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>>221785377
your a bastad anon
a gaye bastad
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>>221785420
based. i would send >him back to ormund pregnant
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>>221785445
Everything is about Sex. Except Sex. Sex is about Niggers.
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>>221785443
Its a man.
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>>221785420
>>221785425
straight
>>221785448
ussy
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>>221785445
because you love men
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>>221785420
>>221785472
>>221785448
why didn't /tv/ save her? https://youtu.be/lzFSOoXAkWg
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Daeron as king.
Faeron as his queen.
Ormund as his Hand.
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>>221785465
>no penis
>womb intact
It's a woman. She just needs a reminder of how good it can feel to be a woman, and I'm happy to oblige.
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>>221785492
This anon got multiple studs in his contacts.
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>>221785448
imagine the suction
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>>221785507
Ormund is so lucky.
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>>221785448
>>221785507
uhh..mods?
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Did Shae ever genuinely love Tyrion or was it all an act? Was she just a spy planted by Tywin to keep an eye on him?
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>>221785371
The fDaeron posts got that one seething.
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>>221785420
>>221785448
>>221785472
>>221785481
>>221785507
How old is Charlie Gordon now?
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>>221785597
>whore
>love
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>FUCK WILD NIGGERS
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>>221785637
why is his neck so long
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>>221785481
another white victim of this shitty world
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>>221785614
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>>221785597
shes was a whore, shes been with 100s of men. she cannot pair bond or feel romantic love anymore
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>>221785614
17-18
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>>221783815
I like the dragons, they're cute and cool and I feel hate towards everyone from George to the show writers for killing them even though it makes sense.
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>>221785651
You've no idea
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will aegon every apologize for the ratchatcher genocide?
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>>221785481
It's really a girl WTF
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>There are too many white people on this show! Let's make some of them black. That way black people can feel represented when they see the black characters onscreen!
>Interesting. And these characters you've made black, you'll make sure they have a lot of screentime?
>Oh, no. Actually the exact opposite
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>>221785597
Book shae was just in for the money
Show shae was shown to be somewhat in love, which is retarded, the only love in Tyrion's life is Tysha but that shit got cut from season 4 beacause D&D are hacks
>>221785625
I suppose they can feel affection too... but probably not to the client paying them for it
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>>221785789
No.
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The last scene of episode 4 made me lose hope in Aegon's plot, tangentially.
Because the writers have proved they, after 2 whole seasons, are STILL incapable of team green nuance, so Aegon's return will be somehow intentionally ruined.
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I read a leak that Daemon's the direct cause of Hugh's wife death because he's a retard.
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>>221786079
Sunfyre will show up and sperg out and start burning bad guys and innocent people alike whil Aegon yells "NO SUNFYRE! THIS IS ALL A TRAGIC MISUNDERSTANDING!"
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why did jon want to fuck arya?
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>>221785909
They also like to do
>there are no good female characters on TV
>>do you want to try and give them some kind of dramatic storylines or interesting character developments?
>no I just want to give them more screentime

>>221785915
Shae was a whore (a funny whore), and Tyrion was a noble, practically a royal. They had that kind of love for each other, I think even in the book. Tyrion was the one who went too far with it, much less in the book but definitely in the show. If Tyrion stayed upwardly mobile, she'd have been plenty loyal to him too. She spotted a chance to get a top shelf lifestyle and do it with someone she actually liked and she took that chance.

Honestly she'd have been wrong to NOT sell him out when circumstances changed. Her choice wasn't 'sell him out and get some inches from Tywin' OR 'don't sell him out and retire peacefully wherever whores go'. She had to do it or she would have been killed. No sense in wasting both their lives.
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Daeron actor is really cute.
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ITS UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFaWAS62Hd0
ORMUND KINO
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>>221786121
He was a gormless idiot.
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>>221786121
gurm want to fuck his sister
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>>221785909
>hmm a medieval fantasy about knights based on Europe? I want to see myself represented as a black man!
Retarded. I don’t need to feel represented as an Asian watching the wire
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>>221785255
That would hurt their girlboss Rhae Rhae bullshit portrayal even if they have Hitler pedo uncle as husband.
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>>221785915
>the only love in Tyrion's life is Tysha but that shit got cut from season 4 beacause D&D are hacks

Shae doesn't work in a visual medium and it would have been impossible to get the show audience to care THAT much about her. Tyrion already has enough reasons to want Tywin dead at that point.
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>>221786151
I mean, yes, from Shae's perspective it makes sense to just go with the flow, but I get why Tyrion fucking killed her because he was already in a less than good mood when he found his own father cucking him
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I kind of want Tessarion to bite Ormund in half
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>>221786159
his voice sounds very fruity.
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>>221786159
looks great, at least they put effort into this
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>>221784643
They know their wives and know that none of them is mentally stable.
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>>221786238
>to care THAT much about her
We don't need to care about her, caring about tyrion is enough
>Tyrion already has enough reasons to want Tywin dead at that point
Not to make an attempt with a 99% chance of resulting in his death
The reason he does it in the book is because he's LIVID, like, actually fuming and foaming at the mouth, he's willing to die as long as he gets to bring Tywin with him. It's what justifies his "burn it all down" path he takes later on, he knows his father wants him dead but that's the moment he discovers he had a beautiful happy ending in front of him years ago and Tywin destroyed it for no reason.
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>>221786186
Are you sure about that?
https://youtu.be/WGdiLWEssdQ?t=106
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>>221786285
>his voice sounds very fruity.
Well he is an actor and they are very gay sometimes.... most of the time
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>>221786294
>The reason he does it in the book is because he's LIVID
And then Jaime tells him Tysha was also a whore who did it for the money and he goes ultra dante must die livid
Actually my favourite piece of writing of the entire series, probably
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*sip*
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>>221786245
>>221786245
His reaction was also understandable.

This is kind of why Tywin didn't want Tyrion getting involved with lowborn or whores in the first place. He knew Lannisters have that kind of weakness for 'true love' (because he had it, his father had it, and the twins had it). The Tysha debacle was supposed to immunize Tyrion against this, and it worked up until he met Shae.
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they would have been a great royal couple
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>>221786363
She would have given him many strong heirs...
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>>221786294
>We don't need to care about her, caring about tyrion is enough
There is no reason to overcomplicate the scene. Ask most normies who only watch the show and I guarantee they don't know who the fuck Tysha is.

>the moment he discovers he had a beautiful happy ending in front of him years ago and Tywin destroyed it for no reason.
Already accomplished by Show Shae genuinely loving Tyrion
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>>221786358
If only Tywin didn't also have such an irrational amount of lust for young foreign whores that he takes his own son's
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Why donted Rheniriyuhaa simply sent in the 20 Good Men to take the Timbleton?!?!?!???
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>>221786390
ironically this is how the Greens take Tumbleton in the book, Ormund sends a bunch of men disguised as refugees who are able to sabotage the town and the main Green force to take it easily
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>>221786390
20 Good Men are at Aegon's side and will help him take Dragonstone.
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>>221785909
They’ve made Alan and Rhaena more prominent this season but yeah, he and Baela barely feel like they’re part of the show. Especially weird with Addam because he has a dragon
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>Villain is a germaphobe
Is this supposed to be just a character tic or is having basic cleanliness considered weird and abnormal?
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>>221785873
You thought we were memeing you? lmao
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>>221785873
even my normie as fuck gf instantly clocked Fake Daeron as a biological woman, it really is hilarious how they expect people to just disbelieve their own eyes
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I have been thinking about the ratcatchers lately
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>>221786382
>Already accomplished by Show Shae genuinely loving Tyrion
No, because that is done by Shae out of stupidity as she comes back to kings landing to fuck him over, a whore he met knowing she was a whore, and his father having warned him about it.
It's not even remotely the same situation, it's not even in the same ballpark, tyrion getting mad about tywin calling her a whore after he just killed her for being a whore makes no sense. In the tysha scene, it makes sense, because how dare Tywin call Tysha a whore so dismissively? After what he has done? Tyrion's crashout in the book makes sense because its properly justified.
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>>221786363
Book Renly
>lean, muscular, and looks exactly like a young King Robert
>bold, popular jokester who loves feasts, hunting and jousting
>"I have the biggest army. I should be king. Stannis is the heir but only as long as he lives."

Show Renly
>not physically imposing at all
>whiny or overly cautious, hates hunting, scared of blood
>"I'd make the best king, therefore I should be king"
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>>221786498
weird how only the most autistic performative book purists get mad over this and no ordinary person thinks season 4 Tyrion's arc is incomplete
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>>221786373
she ain't that fertile
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>>221786548
what is this beaner text
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>>221786568
it's a parody of the dragon ball super power level charts where they would invent shit like El Hermano de Jiren, Gohan Blanco and Shaggy, themselves satire on the way mexicans would invent the most ridiculous OC characters
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>>221786363
cringe renly:
>n-no i cant have sex with my queen its impossible, how can you even penetrate a female v*gina?
based tommen:
>plap smirkfu all day long
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>>221786548
how the fuck is queenfucker Criston an incel?
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>>221786544
His general arc is complete, but it misses the highest point, the turning point
Which is also Jaime's turning point
>She fucked Lancel, Osmund Kettleblack, and Moonboy for all I know.
>I did it. I killed the little bastard. Poisoned him at his wedding

In the show they depart with a hug, in the book Tyrion leaves as an absolute menace, this missing link is what makes his turn to evil not happen in the show like it happened in the books, it's a CLEAR case of d&d making a "good enough" episode that fundamentally doesn't understand the source material.
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>>221786548
el classico
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>Alicent in the book
>Pic related

>Alicent in the show
>haha pls kill my son Rhanny :^)
>here the Red Keep I dun want it
>ormunt is scared of smellies if u fart on him he will xplode xD
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>>221786596
Ever since they called Henry Cavill an incel, the term has lost all meaning
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>>221786548
>Thor negro
Pretty sure Thor was white
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>>221786523
Book Renly
>Robb will bend the knee and give up his claim or I'll chop his head off
Show Renly
>Sure, I'd love to ally with Robb! I'm not like MEAN Stannis
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>>221786548
>castigado patchy el pirata
Kek
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>>221786584
>Greens are LSSJ while Blacks are in the base.
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>>221786601
Feast and Dance fucking suck ass and killed the franchise, though. Tyrion's Dance chapters are the absolute nadir of the entire series. Anything that gets away from those putrid dogshit books is an improvement.
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>>221786611
He's only an incel because he's pledged his life to guarding the lore.
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>>221786638
Based lorechad.
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>>221786638
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>>221786636
Tyrion's chapters in Dance are such a slog and the moment it looks like he's actually going to do something interesting the book ends
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OH N-
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>>221786638
Cavill is a grifter.
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>>221784076
SHE BASED
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>>221786700
Absolute kinography, I cannot believe Feast and Dance defenders cry about this episode because it's awesome instead of gay and lame navel gazing and descriptions of bowel movements
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>>221786638
unfunny forced meme
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>>221786724
>half of them are probably praying for a good raping
What did George mean by this
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Did you make your own ending or will you keep waiting for Georgie?
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>>221786700
It's crazy how every medieval battle was just like this.
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>>221786750
Why do you think the faith is team green?
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>>221786700
>random soldier's sword goes straight through skull, brain, and helmet
D&D really wanted that Star Wars gig
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>>221786718
wat

Literally how?
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>>221784076
manages to look like less of a psycho bitch when compared to alicent because at least she loves her own children
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>>221786638
>>221786679
kek
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>>221786771
I was mostly satisfied by the way the show ended, warts and all, and believe it was thematically appropriate despite a few obviously rushed storylines all of the big moments made sense and emotionally landed with me, so I got the closure I needed out of ASOIAF.

I'm glad it did, because GRRM apologists are mentally ill and refuse to concede that he lost the plot 25+ years ago
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>>221786771
We got the ending in 2019
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>>221786804
Hes putting up an act to make gamers like him by pretending to be "le one of the guys XD"
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>>221786771
I will never stop waiting for George. Give him time. He's got this.
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>>221785481
Hold up. Is (s)he MtF or FtM ?
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>>221786807
legit

We could have had whole seasons of Alicent and Rhaenyra plotting against each other, but we got some insane sisterhood of the travelling toerag shizz instead. Ruins Alicent as a character.

>>221786830
This has been good for his career?
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Dragons make the entire ground war very uninteresting
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>>221786821
>"I was mostly satisfied by the way the show ended"
>"thematically appropriate"
Sure, Dany holocausting King's Landing was definitely thematically appropriate lmao
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how come targs werent removed from power and genocided as soon as they lost their dragons?
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Will Rhaenyra go full DSA?
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>>221786859
Targaryens are evil. They believe they are a master race who are divinely ordained to rule over the lesser beings, with Daenerys herself fully buying into prophecy that she is Chosen to "break le wheel" and anyone who opposes her is evil.

When Dany was confronted with the reality that Westeros would never love her and that Jon had a better claim to the throne, she gave up ruling through love and decided to rule through fear instead.
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>>221786875
Plot armor courtesy of the author's incest fetish
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>>221786875
inertia. and having a centralized realm to govern the seven kingdoms was a good idea.
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>>221786875
then what
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>>221786700
'member when normies praised this episode because they have absolutely no taste
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>>221786790
when you watch Return of the King do you get angry when the rohirrim charge a perfectly aligned wall of spears yet win anyways because plot?
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>>221786878
Celtigars confirmed WOKE socialists.
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>>221786859
I mean yeah, what did you actually root for her and expect her to succeed as the classical hero savior? Faggot and a retard if so
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>>221786853
The Jaime vs Dany battle is probably the only exception because it's just a "How does a medieval army take down an actual dragon?" scenario.
Everything with multiple dragons borders on anime bullshit.
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>>221786894
George doesn't have an incest fetish.
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>>221786960
No. That was actually a good sequence
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>>221786638
>I pledge my life to neverdies and Aaron Dembski Bowden's unresolved daddy issues
>slop gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death
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>>221786970
Then what was the point of building her up as the ultimate emancipator and savior in the early seasons with her virtue being unquestioned by other characters? Someone said before that the show even played cheerful music whenever she liberated a city.
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>>221786970
A LOT of this fandom is genuinely retarded and unironically believes this was a story about why genetically superior chosen ones deserve to rule over all of humanity
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>>221787003
Despite le bad tactics? Also the Hackson movies are worse adaptations than game of thrones btw
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>>221787015
what the fuck...the bolsheviks said they were on the side of the workers and wanted to free the oppressed proletariat...yet when Lenin actually took power he siced the Cheka on striking workers in St. Petersburg...what the FUCK? real life has such le bad writing...
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>>221786893
You've made it clear that you have a personal antipathy to the fictional family.
The problem is that Daenerys going mad wasn't set up. Unlike some we could mention she's never had meltdown about bells and burning down cities.
>she was always evil and mad, conquering slaver's bay was both those things
No it wasn't. It may have been naive but it sure as fuck wasn't evil or insane.
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>>221785005
Correction, she doesn't even sleep with Aurane Waters, she literally just gives him everything because he looks like Rhaegar who she had a crush on 20 years ago.
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>>221787021
GRRM is a monarchist so...
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>>221787075
reminder that Daenerys birthed he dragons by burning a woman alive whose only crime was killing her rapist and took personal enjoyment from her screams
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>>221787044
Is it not showed that the orcs are wavering and some are starting to run before the charge hits, and the Rohirrim are still showed to have taken brutal casualties
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>>221786970
They could have made it more nuanced.

Like maybe she does attack KL with Drogon, and she does do a lot of burning, but most casualties are a result of the wildfire caches going off. Show that she really did need to use Drogon like that to defeat the defending armies, and then show that people really do hate her now. So is she a villain because of that?

What we got was - she went delulu on account of the bells.
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>>221787128
female hands typed this post
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>>221787117
>killing her rapist
Danny loved Drogo tho. Can't be rape.
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>>221787075
>The problem is that Daenerys going mad wasn't set up
nigga please
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He fought for the greens, Khal Drogo?
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>>221786960
>Oh yeah? Well how do you feel about... a much better scene in a much better piece of media? Checkmate!
lol
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>>221787015
They fucked up how they presented her arc (because le strong wahmen is good ratings fodder) but if her story in the book is supposed to be in broad strokes the same then it's somewhat similar to a Paul Atreides arc where the noble hero actually unleashes horrible bloodshed and in this case obviously starts becoming a villain because she's a young woman who power and praise (and 3 flying nukes) have gone to her head. If I wanted to shitpost a bit I'd say by the end you'll realise that actually Viserys was by far the saner one.
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>>221787117
>bro you can't just kill someone who killed your child and used dark magic to make you infertile as thanks for saving them from certain death, that's like evil and crazy stuff
Targhaters are some of the biggest retards on the planet.
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>>221787151
You can't rape your spouse
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>>221787151
I'm talking about Miiri Maz Duur you retard, who killed Drogo because he and his mongol hordes raped and murdered her entire society

but Dany is epic girlboss and Jason Momoa is hot so Dany defenders don't have any empathy for her
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>>221787167
>my argument is that I feel very strongly to the contrary
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>>221787203
Did George ever say that he was inspired by Dune?
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>>221787208
>bro why do those Middle Easterners hate us, don't they know we are giving them FREEDOM by bombing them? fucking savages
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>>221787241
Not sure, but everyone is inspired at least somewhat by Dune
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>>221787151
>get raped by brown foreigner
>fall in love with him
why are women like this
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>>221787096
So Cersei simped her fleet away, my gods
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>>221787264
It's peak Mamoa, and she was playing the game of thrones
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I don't mind Targs but will never understand the muh Khaleesi Dany glazing.
She was an annoying character right from the start.
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>>221787021
tbf at some point GRRM fell in love with the Targshits and he kind of forgot they were supposed to just be half of Jon's parentage.
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>>221787247
>if you kill the murderer of your unborn child you are evil and crazy
Maybe read the fucking books.
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>>221786596
He had the nerve to be upset at his rapist
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>>221787300
And she was always frumpy with a subpar ass. Yeah I said it.
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>>221787021
Well, I suppose it depends if they have dragons or not, kinda a top trump in any argument
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>>221787300
I like Daenerys as a character, in that she is the last scion of a conquering dynasty and all of her perceived altruism was always predicated on people bending the knee to her.

The problem is that women and simps genuinely bought into the girlboss rhetoric and then got mad when it turned out she was just doing what Targs do and then interpreted it as an attack on feminism
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sup big bro
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Who was the best female POV character?
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>>221787331
>dude if dany says she's a good person in her own monologue...she must be....LE GOOD
wine sellers daughters
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>>221787300
she became based at the end, this is the real redemption arc story
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>>221787393
Asha for
>her cunt became the world
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>>221787384
<3 nuncle
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>>221787208
>Agreeing to get your wound treated by a woman of the village you just roflstomped (reminder there are literal corpse piles and rapefests going on)
The real retard here is Drogo. Daeny might have not understood what its like to get your entire family slaughtered and home destroyed (only from stories), but him agreeing to it is the biggest blunder.
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>>221787300
There are many annoying things about the show.
Khaleeeesing, Maissie Williams, the entirety of the later part of it's' run.
But that's not a good reason to over-correct.
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>>221787443
>Maissie Williams
what did she do?
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I think I'm going to re-read the books
When I'm finished surely grrm will announce TWOW's release date
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>>221787426
what does the first n in nuncle mean?
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>>221787435
>gets caught simping one time
>dies for it
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>>221787476
No full frontal scene.
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New
>>221787519
>>221787519
>>221787519
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>>221787509
Yep, thats Tribal Warlord life.
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>>221787517
we only see one minge, and that's Rosie's
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>>221787406
This is your best argument for Daenerys having been crazy all along, and, by extension her burning king's landing having been set up in advance? A Trudeauean platitude about killing your enemies being bad followed by incoherent autistic wailing?
Are you retarded?
>>221787435
Absolutely.
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>>221787384
so is the actor a girl or a tranny?
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>>221786700
Terrible. There was exactly one good battle in the entire fucking series, and it wasn't that one.
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>>221786718
I remember the exact moment the talking points went out and everyone started calling each other grifters as a way of avoiding actually having to engage with anyone's arguments.
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>>221786893
No, sorry, it's already been decided that the Hightowers are the Nazis.
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>>221787799
Because its true. There aren't any genuinely right-wing/chud gamer influencers on the internet.
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It's pretty obvious that Bran Stark is a time traveler and built Storm's End and The Wall right?
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>>221788413
No.



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