>have a badass villain who wipes the floor with the heroes and he ends up killing half the cast by the end of the movie>people wonder how they're gonna manage to defeat the villain after this>immediately kill him off right at the beginning of the next movie in an unsatisfactory way???What the fuck were they thinking?
>>221798694He was only winning until Thor showed up.
>in an unsatisfactory wayThat was literally the point, it was meant to feel like a hollow meaningless victory. I can't believe you're making me defend marvelslop, baka anon
>>221798694>shitting on one of the only good decisions Marvel ever madeKilling off Thanos right at the beginning of Endgame was perfect, Thanos had totally won and retired to be a farmer. He didn't care about living or dying at that point and the Avengers couldn't do anything except seethe and watch Thor chimp out and decapitate him. There were plenty of problems with these movies but this absolutely isn't one of them
at least he got the last laugh with hawkeye
>>221798974The issue was that the past version who didn't go through any of the trials & tribulations and just noclipped to the end was somehow just as if not more capable than the one that did
>>221799016Cold blooded! I'd argue Thanos pushed in Scarlet Witches shit so hard she never recovered.You who Thanos fucked the hardest though? DC's "Darkseid". Who will forever be known as a Thanos knockoff.
>>221799521>Leave Thanos to m-ACK!
>>221799772I think her career is in the Dead Zone now. Recently she said some really shitty things about USA and while it's known she could shit on other countries, she never hated us before. She wouldn't even have a career without Full House existing.
>>221799521>Who will forever be known as a Thanos knockoff.Should've released the Snyder Cut in 2017.
>>221798694Wait, is that seriously what they did?Holy shit marvelmovieslop writing is bad.How do you fuck up this badly when you have comics to follow?
>>221799861Snyder Cut wouldn't have mattered. It's what an extra 90 seconds of Darkseid? /tv/ latched on the Steppenwolf for some reason though. Like his only quest was to go home while everyone else wanted total domination.
>>221800027They weren't following the Infinity War comic story they did their own thing
>>221800027They only took the overarching plot without reworking it to many any sense in the context of the MCU. Thanos in the comics wanted to wipe out half the universe to impress & bang Death, and they just copied the wiping out half the universe aspect despite Death not being a character. So they made it about resources even though with the power of the stones at his disposal he had a million better ways to go about remedying that problem without killing everyone
the real problem with Thanos is that his master plan was just completely nonsensical. cutting the universe's population in half is an extremely short term solution. it would bounce back, and then what? the human population has grown like 10 fold in 200 years. he's buying a very small amount of time before his perceived problem is right back where it started.people handwave this by saying he's "Thanos the Mad Titan" or whatever, ok, so he's just supposed to be insane and the plan in nonsensical? except at no point in the story is he portrayed as insane, in fact quite the opposite. he's portrayed as extremely calculating, willing to play the long game, and outsmarts all the heroes. but you're telling me he couldn't see the very obvious fatal flaw in his plan he worked so meticulously to pull off? I don't buy it. it ruins the whole thing. it would have been a lot better if they followed the comics and had him doing it in service of Death.
>>221800246Devil's Advocate here... death is a shitty characterAs for Thanos I'll say this, every galaxy, every planet that he conquered all flourished after he split their populations in half. Which taught dying planets a lesson: control our own population so the planet can thrive.Even Earth was better off after the BLIP!
>>221798694Desu he got off easy if you sit down and think about it for a second.
>>221800675>conquer planet, cut population in half>thrives>get stones, indiscriminately cut all populations in half again>civilization falls apart, everyone dies
>>221799521Olsen isn't coming back.
>>221798694The worst part of how he died was how Thor went about it. Thor’s entire arc is supposed to be about him maturing from a brash, impetuous hothead into a wiser, more staid wisdom. It’s not the beheading itself that’s wrong; it’s that he clearly does it in a fit of anger. It should have been more like Ned Stark executing the deserter in Game of Thrones.
>Emilia Clarke as "Super Skrull">>221800741I'm not saying Thanos was right. I'm just saying he wasn't wrong.
>>221800814But the last time Thor fought him he delayed killing him to declare his vengeance for Idris Elba fulfilled which let Thanos snap his fingers. Thor wasn't giving him any chances this time.
>>221800804Good. I'm mad at her. Forget why.As for capeshit, it's her fault we got shit like Agatha All Along instead of Ghost Rider.
>>221799058>if not more capable than the one that didEndgame Thanos was WAY was much weaker than the Infinity War version. Infinity Thanos manipulates reality, can throw meteorites and is only "contained" because Strange was there. Furthermore, Infinity Thanos was much less brutal precisely because he had gone through his growth journey and felt it was pointless to be more cruel than necessary.I didn't like the original Thanos being taken out like that either, but it made sense.
>>221800246It was a nice subtle bit of characterization that Thanos had come up with the halving everything plan while still on Titan and everyone mocked him for it, and even when he had the gauntlet he still went with the same plan. One wonders if even in his head he’s actually trying to fix the problem or to prove those others wrong
>>221800246They could have compromised and used Hela as a proxy for Death. You introduce her and the Executioner in the second Thor movie as exiled Asgardians. Instead of the Dark World and Malekith, you make it about Hela seeking the Soul Stone as means of reconnecting herself to Hel and returning to the soul-collecting business. You have her (over the course of the longer story) cuck Executioner to align herself with Thanos, who is more than happy to back her in her efforts to kick off Ragnarok and overwhelm Asgard with the souls of the dead thst Thanos snaps into her service. The rest basically writes itself.
>>221800865They already knew the stones no longer existed when Thor killed him.
>>221801023Still, who knows what tricks Thanos might have had up his sleeve? Cutting off his head removes both the head and any potential threat he might have posed.
>>221799058>>221798694Buddy.They literally had to ASSPULL AND INVENT TIME TRAVEL to win.Thanos won in what? 14 million universes that Dr. Strange checked.Only in one did the avengers win.Yeah it's retarded but that's how hard thanos win. They had to invent fucking time travel.
>>221801062Remind me about that next time I murder an un-armed Titan in cold blood.
>>221801075>They had to invent fucking time travel.I hate Loki the tv show but by the Avengers fucking with the timeline isn't that how alternative universes start popping up and gave us Deadpool & Wolverine? Made over a billy.
>>221801006>They could have compromised and used Hela as a proxy for DeathIn an era where every woman is a girl boss or female super soldier, or becomes a supreme form of existence and mortality, having a Thanos who is completely independent of a woman's guidance and acts in complete autonomy is one of the best things.
>>221801103I would totally watch a movie where Yelena uses her subby bitch Kate to mop up cum.
>>221801103>in cold bloodWhat do you think those words mean?
Marvel characters are so fucking trash. All they ever do is clean up their own messes or just create more messes. Literally no one outside of Spiderman has ever saved a civilian just because the civilian was in trouble on a regular day. None of them are heroes and Spiderman is an eternal cuck
>>221799855>that picHot, but I'm convinced she makes a much goofier O-face irl
>>221800077That's like saying Harley Quinn and Suicide Squad wouldn't have mattered because MCU already did the rag tag misfits movie. But SS 2016 came out and Harley’s costume is an attention whore icon, nobody dresses up as Gamora
>You who Thanos fucked the hardest though? DC's "Darkseid". Who will forever be known as a Thanos knockoff.Crazy considering that Thanos is the actual knock off
>>221800933Endgame Thanos also unintentionally gained some plot armor since he was aware of his own success. He KNEW he got all the stones and did the snap. That he was capable etc, so it sorta maxed his confidence and he go could all out.
>>221801607Yes, but even before the MCU arrived, Thanos had already become something separate. Already with the Fem Stone saga in the comics, Thanos surpassed Darkseid in popularity and characterization.
>>221801270What do you think they mean? It’s when you seek someone out with the intention of killing them, then proceeding to do so when they were posing no immediate threat to you or anyone else.
>>221801607As unfair as it may be, DC should have presented Darkseid differently than Thanos.
>>221802011Thor killed him right after a fight. His blood was definitely hot. In cold blood would be if he killed him in the middle of a calm conversation about the weather. There's no warning, everything's nice and peaceful until a sudden outburst of violence. It's often the difference between first degree murder and a lesser charge like second degree murder or manslaughter. Thor's killing would have been labeled a crime of passion done in the heat of the moment, not cold blooded first degree murder.
>>221802130Do you really think that makes a difference? Say, for instance, two guys are fighting at a wedding reception, one kicks the other’s ass, then that dude goes to his car, cones back with a gun and kills the guy. Do you think that constitutes a crime of passion or premeditated murder?
>>221802212With room for nuance and state by state variation, that exact scenario is why 2nd degree murder is distinct from 1st degree murder
>>221802306Ok, now imagine the guy you’re angry at teleports away to some far-flung planet, has time to destroy the Infinity Stones and prepare a meal when you show up, and he, unarmed, tells you he’s destroyed the very weapon that so overpowered him in the first place. And you behead him. I’m not saying Thor wasn’t justified. He’s a god acting in the service of cosmic justice, but there’s basically one right way to present that and millions of wrong ways. They chose poorly.
>>221799058Endgame Thanos was only 4 years younger than Infinity War Thanos, while being about a thousand years old. There's not much difference between them in terms of experience. The quest he went on collecting the stones wasn't enough to fundamentally change him
>>221802380Thanos is extremely formidable even without the stones. Remember he easily handed Hulk his ass, Given that Thanos committed the largest crime in the history of existence its reasonable for the Avengers to go into that situation on high alert. Now, Thor is dealing with extreme PTSD from failing to stop Thanos, even though he could have. It is a complex situation and I think you are trying to over-simplify it.
>>221802130>In one of the first scenes in Endgame, Tony is leaving a message for Pepper from space where he’s been stranded with Nebula. He reveals that it’s been 22 days since the Snap occurredhttps://comicbook.com/marvel/news/avengers-endgame-time-after-infinity-war-setting/It wasn’t an immediate thing. 22 days elapsed time is the veritable definition of cold-blooded.
>>221802527I don’t. Like I said earlier, Thor’s supposed to have matured over the course of these stories. I make allowances for his actions, but I also hold him, a god hundreds if not thousands of years old, to a higher standard of comportment. Thanos was offering zero resistance.
>>221802581Thor tells rocket is 1500 years oldThe Avengers ambushed Thanos, and planned to do so. Why? Because they know he is extremely dangerous, and didnt know what they were talking into. They didnt want to give him time to muster a resistance.
>>221802684Yeah, when I’ve decided beforehand I’m going to kill someone, I generally do it before they can muster a resistance, too, but I’m not a divine being surrounded by some if the most powerful beings in the universe. My personal take on it is that a better treatment of this would have been to treat him like a criminal and his death as a sentence to be carried out. To me, it would have been kino of the highest order to see Cap or Thor tell him that his life was forfeit for his crime, but his true punishment was going to be living to see them undo his deeds. *Then* you proceed with the story. Your epilogue is Thor Bifrosting in and walking toward Thanos standing and looking at a sunset in the distance, reminiscent of the scene with Gamora in Infinity War. But that’s just me.
>>221802527Thor is an old man. He has no reason to act the way he does. Imagine if Taika Waititi came out tomorrow and was like, "yeah, I'm an unironic right-winger now. Christopher Hitchens is the most based person ever. All mental illness really *is* just a moral failing. Etc." And he really meant it. What would be your reaction? You'd think this guy has gotten fucking brain damage, because changes like that don't happen to people.
>>221802212Yes? That's literally the distinction. Walking to your car and coming back 30 seconds later while still in a rage is not the same thing as planning a murder for a week. Premeditation can be formed quickly but "cold blood" implies detachment, not a guy snapping because he just got humiliated/traumatized.Thor didn't execute Thanos because he calmly weighed cosmic jurisprudence. He did it because the guy who killed half the universe told him "lol you can't fix it" and Thor had a mental break. That's heat of passion with a magic axe.
>>221804700Well I have some bad news for you, then, because assuming you’ve been part if this discussion for a while (or at least followed it), you know that it was three weeks between the snap and Thanos’s beheading. See >>221802532. Would you consider that sufficient time for blood to cool?
>>221798777thanos with 6 stones is a match for thor, and thanos with no stones gets the upper hand on thor, cap and tony>>221798694if you're gonna whine then pick something that's actual bullshit
>>221798694>Thanos shown to effortlessly 1v1 The Hulk in seconds, who has been shown to indisputably be the strongest hero in the setting>Thanos later loses against Iron Man (who couldn't even beat the Hulk while wearing a dedicated suit of armor designed specifically to fight the Hulk) and Spider Man (who routinely is shown to barely be able to hold up things The Hulk effortlessly tosses hundreds if not thousands of feet) and Captain America (who is quite literally just a human able to bench press 800-900 pounds which is a pittance to what the Hulk can do)Superhero movies are so fucking stupid. I can't believe some of you actually like them.
>>221800814It's almost like last time both met Thanos taunted him for not beheading him. Add a couple billion deaths on his shoulders and next time they meet he, of course, cuts thanos's fucking head off in rage because no shit of course he would. As far as Thor is concerned, everyone snapped away from existence because of his mistake
>>221801103BasedTTDNever met a good one
>>221804902And rashly cutting off his head before they’re even sure he’s not lying isn’t potentially another mistake? Or proof he’s basically just as impulsive and headstrong as he was 22 movies ago? I’ve said it already, but that wasn’t an action worthy of the character.
>>221804898One of the things that bothered me from Infinity War was the Hulk being beaten without it ripping their entire ship to shreds. How are you hitting the Hulk hard enough to incapacitate him without knocking him through multiple bulkheads?
Expectations subverted heckin chuds
>>221804976It was an action worthy of the character at the time, and Thanos 100% deserved no matter if he was just a farmer who presented no resistance. They know he is not lying because his own daughter who also has a gun to his head vouches for him, on top of the fact that he obviously gets nothing from lying at that point
>>221799521The funniest thing is that in comic it’s the other way around >In creating Thanos, Starlin drew inspiration from Jack Kirby's New Gods series for DC Comics, particularly the character of Darkseid
they should have kissed him at the start of endgame haha
>>221800933You can see it in multiple games too like marvel vs series or War of the gems he's over powered as heck. O.o;
