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Dead dragon edition

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Which female character in HotD deserves a Walk of Shame?
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thinken bout the rat catchers again :(
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>>221810188
mysaria was forced to do it
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Sex with Daeron, my friends
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>>221810230
huh?
>>221810188
Alicent, obviously.
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>>221810188
All of them.
I want all of them marched up to the anogrion and fed to a magical bear.
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>>221810270
That's reserved for princess Zelda.
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Ormund
>CUNT, CUNT, CUUUUNT
Aemond
>Mhhhhh swamp witch musk....
Corlys
>I'm gonna say the b word, I'm gonna do it
Rahenyra
>nooooo you can't say the b word!


Meanwhile, the Ser Criston Cole and Ser Gwayne Hightower plotline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKWfdluW568
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>>221810271
Are they Yamnaya culture of Planetos?
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>>221810290
>huh?
mysaria was forced to do a walk of shame from the red keep to the gate of the gods
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>>221810348
Is he a bit fatter in hotd? His face here looks elegant but in hotd it looks more like a weird kid
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I like Daeron which means the writers will run him through a humiliation ritual for not siding with his tranny sister
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He bore the sword.
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>>221810348
Is this real? They picked someone hot for Zelda wtf
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Blacks
>Gets a sexual consent form filled out in triplicate with at least half a dozen witnesses of good character present, files away a copy with the maesters, and records the whole interaction on a glass candle, with backups.
Greens
>Rapes.
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>>221810407
Yes, he did.
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>>221810429
kek
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>>221810421
Still waiting to see how the rest of the cast will end up looking like
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>>221810425
Except when with Cole, he gets raped.
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Sunfyre's ressurection will be the hypest shit imaginable.
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Were there any Targs who were faggots?
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>>221810525
Were there any who weren't?
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Who would the fooking legend support in this war?
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I really can't see Show Ulf raping a woman let alone three. He's too much of punching bag here. They'll probably give him whiskey dick
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>>221810539
Aegon II
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>>221810525
Egg's third son is heavily implied to be in the closet.
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>>221810540
Greens, because they will make rape legal
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>>221810466
Jerked off to her in altered carbon too many times
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>My evidence is that they are tall and are called stuff like Hugo
Hugor is just an andalized version of the name huzhor, which is a Zoqora version of the name Azhor, which means bladeheart in centauri
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>>221810525
CHADGOR THE BASED
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>>221810124
didn't daenerys said in dance that boys go before girls in succession, while she was thinking about aegon ?
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>>221810576
Haven't watched the show but that book has some of the most disgusting sweaty smelly sex I've ever read
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>>221810601
I wonder if GRRM based Maegor on this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracalla
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>>221810601
He is Visenya's blood magic clone so all sex he had with his wives was lesbian.
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For how bad this show is, it’s nowhere near as bad as Alien: Earth or Rangz of Powah
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>>221810669
hot
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>>221810693
>Alien: Earth
what I hate the most is that they completely fucking tone down the premise. Like, the IDEA of a xenomorph coming to Earth is an extinction level event and yet its dealt with so fucking easily
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>>221810693
I've unironically enjoyed S3. If they can keep this level of quality going through episode 8 then 2 out of 3 seasons being good aint bad.
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>>221810649
he was William II the red https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_II_of_England
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>>221810576
she is hotter in severance
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>>221810775
Except not gay
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>>221810539
Aegon IV
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>>221810669
Surely the more reasonable explanation is Visenya just flew to Storms End and raped her other brother Orys while Argella watched.
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>>221810798
Unless…
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>>221810820
>>221810775
Ahhh so he wasn’t infertile, it was a deny situation the whole time lol. Maegor the Cock-drool
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>>221810820
>Maegor keeps killing maesters when they tell him that putting it up the woman's butt isn't going to work
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Why doesn't someone just, you know, kill all the maesters?
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>>221810729
Eventually someone will come up with a cut of the show removing all the sniveling Rhaenyra scenes and it'll be a throughout 8/10
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>>221810370
Unironically.
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>>221810814
Hot.
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>>221810910
I don't get why the writer has so many of those scenes. Did their market research show that viewers enjoy this?
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>>221810910
It'll still have loads of Alicent scenes
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>>221810849
Justified.
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>>221810955
the writers are women going through their emotional journey and so that's what they write about.
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>>221810848
Renly situation*
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Blood and Fire when
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>>221810848
>>221811028
Plenty of closeted gays mange to have families with women. Doesn't make sense.
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>>221811058
Fuck that. We need the History of The Ironborn next.
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>>221811084
Theon has ruined their reputation with the normies.
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>>221810888
They’re too powerful
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>>221811096
And Euron will restore it.
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>>221810888
Cool it with the antisemitism.
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>>221811066
>writers make him say that the valyrian are inferior
>he use a valyrian steel sword
the writers are dumb as shit
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>>221811108
Euron will job to the Hightower secret weapon
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>>221811079
*manage
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>>221811108
lmao both show and bookfags hate redditron
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>>221811066
Just stab the cunt, he's in a wheelchair ffs
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>>221811122
Isn't that the point? He serves them as well.
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>>221811124
Why doesn't Ormund use the Hightower secret weapon on Rhaenyra?
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>>221811066
>valyrian steel somehow cant cut through a wood table when its wielder is putting all his strength into the swing
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>>221811122
And racists still eat peanut butter.
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>>221811155
Ormund is a normalfag unlike Leyton the old man in the tower
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>>221811079
Not in George’s world. No kids = gay
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>>221811122
He also hasn't killed Dareon or his dragon
This is profound
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>>221811126
What makes Euron "reddit"?
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So apparently someone important dies next episode, who is it?
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*ahem*

Attention all Anons:

Rape!

That is all.
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>>221811257
Hopefully we the viewers
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>>221811257
Criston?
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who cares about Ormund he already got mogged by daemon
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>>221811245
>super special edgy faggot with blue lips, a full armor of valyrian steel, silent crew, a magic horn to control dragons and went to old valyria
he fucking sucks and he represent what grrm said he hated about fantasy
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>>221810421
Yeah she's a cutie
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>>221811257
Haeleana suicide mayhaps?
>>221811288
criston in ep 6 is confirmed
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>>221811381
>22 female
>16 male
what did nintendo mean by this?
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>>221811323
Maybe if you’re a Redditor
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Why is Tumbleton so brown and dry? The Reach is supposed to be green
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>>221811381
she's child coded
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>>221810525
Egg's youngest son, he died alongside his bro and lover when they were hunting down a bunch of outlaws who had raped his cousin Aelora.
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>>221811245
Book Euron is a gay shounen anime villain who talks in riddles and catchphrases and people pretend to like him because he is so vague and mysterious he is a perfect vehicle for fan theories. People who like Book Euron don't like him because of any actual qualities or feats that Euron has performed, they like him because they speculate he will do cool stuff in Winds

Show Euron is a total meme reddit character who exists to try to make the audience laugh, but at least DnD don't pretend the character is any more complex than he is - Cersei's muscle and a goofy guy
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>>221811430
HBO is run by a bunch of far left middle aged cat ladies who want to erase white people from existence.
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>>221811367
Also he’s pure evil for evils sake with no grey morality or human motivation. He’s just a dark lord final boss type villain
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>>221811430
The retard script writer probably correlated "tumbleton" with a tumbleweed and decided to make it desolate looking.
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>>221810364
These shows are weird. The armor can't protect you from even a glancing blow yet stays perfectly intact after the human inside it gets burnt to ash. Game of Thrones did that as well iirc.
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This is a targ board, everyone else can leave.
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I didnt read the books but from what I've seen here isnt Euron supposed to be some flamboyant pirate who dresses stylishly? Maybe people didn't like him in the show because he wears a boring plain potato sack outfit instead of looking like a sleak fancy pirate man.
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>>221811396
they look agematched that's what's important
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>>221811423
>Maybe if you're a Redditor
nah he got totally MOGGED
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>>221811287
Anon said important.
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>>221811459
lol no, she's older than him like the other anon said and it's obvious they did it on purpose
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>>221811514
>Blackfyres are niggers
Meanwhile Targ princess
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>>221811479
>>221811367
Ok, but so are The Others/Whitewalkers, and Ramsay Bolton, and Slavers of Slavers Bay and The Undying and any number of other villains.
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>>221811514
>this is a targ board
yoohoooo, maesters? I’d like you to poison this man right here please, thank youuuu
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Corlys would have been such a big fan favorite if they made him a hunky looking salt and pepper haired Mediterranean guy instead of some skinny rasta man.
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>>221811530
He looks like a fucking rockstar in season 7 and 8, dunno if you watched them or nah.
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>>221811381
Was Timothy Chalamet too busy with DUNC 3 or something? Tom Holland with Spiderman? Weird they went for a total unknown.
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>>221811559
>Slavers of Slavers Bay
They weren't pure evil. Many of them were quite reasonable like the others Khals.
>The Others/Whitewalkers
well yeah they're not even fucking human so that's a bad example. They are meant to be the ultimate villains of the series (fuck season 8)
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>>221811546
>Anon said important.
saar
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>>221811559
They have bad traits but not all the horrible shit grmm combined for euron and there is nothing wrong with the slavers they are humans dealing on misery and slavery was a real thing.
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>>221811599
I don't mind too much. I can buy the kid as Link. Now, whoever they cast for Ganon is going to be the dealbreaker.
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>>221811514
Incestuous aliens pls go
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>>221811596
I don't remember him ever wearing anything other than the Greyjoy potato sacks
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>>221811530
Euron in the show is an entirely different character. Euron in the books is eldritch sorceror with a full armor made of Valyrian Steel plate and a horn that summons Kraken and he commands a ship made of red wood crewed by mutes. Possibly he even circumnavigated the planet.
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>>221811599
both of those men are in their 30s and undergoing twink death. Benjamin Ainsworth is 17, the perfect age for an older Link
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>>221811599
You cant cast link as a middle aged man. Are you retarded?
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>>221811637
Ormund should be Ganon.
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>>221811599
They want an actual twink that will continue looking like a twink next to her for the years to come when they film sequels, not a 30yo who'll charge them 20mill to phone it home.
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What were the white walkers' tax policy? They had their own civilization of sorts in the farthest north before sweeping south given that they have fresh armor and weapons. What does a white walker world look like after they've killed all of humanity?
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>>221811549
She is not a princess.
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>>221811657
wtf why didn't DnD include all that shit? He sounds like pirate Gandalf. That sounds fucking awesome.
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>>221811599
Geriatric over-30s have no business playing Link.
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>>221811691
So do they have to kill Daeron off this season, since he probably will be busy filming Zelda sequels for the foreseeable future? No one could keep up with filming for two huge fantasy franchises at the same time.
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>>221811714
because every character introduced in Feast and Dance lacks substance and George has no idea what their actual role in the story should be
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>>221811702
>They had their own civilization of sorts in the farthest north
no they didnt
>after they've killed all of humanity?
We don't even know what the Others want specifically
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Imagine being over 30 years old. I would just kill myself
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>>221811657
>Euron in the books is eldritch sorceror
Is he now?
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>>221811691
holy she's pretty
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>>221811549
This character is more closely related to Daemon Niggafyre than Daeron II.
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>>221811755
kek based Rodrik the Reader
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>>221811754
I turn 34 in a month and I'm already undergoing a midlife crisis.
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>>221811767
gay
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>>221811785
Why? I'm 34 and feel like the same exact person I was when I was 12. I am no different other than some gray hairs.
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>>221811729
He dies during the battle of Tumbleton so yeah he'd have to die this season anyways.
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>>221811733
Why did that retard decide to introduce new POV characters 5 books in? We already had a vast cast of characters people liked.
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>>221811582
>skinny
I hate raceswaps as much as the next guy but come on.
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>>221811691
holy he's pretty
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>>221811691
getting SS vibes from this shit, fucking japs kek
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>>221811729
They won't kill off Daeron three episodes after introducing him and Second Tumbleton is one of the last major battles of the Dance. Legend of Zelda will be done filming by the time Season 4 enters production and a sequel, if it even gets made, won't start filming until HotD is already finished airing.
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>>221811825
gay
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>>221811811
Because he had no idea where to take the story after Storm and decided to just write meandering bullshit instead and it drove the series off a cliff
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>>221811812
He looked sickly skinny in the last episode. What do you mean?
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>>221811829
>>221811805
His death is left as one of those "but maybe he survived, wink wink" moments in the book. I wonder if the book will have him become The Shepherd.
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>>221811729
R'hllor hungers for chargrilled bussy.
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>>221811828
You're mindbroken.
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>>221811828
?
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>>221810124
This show is really confusing sometime with its insistence on seemingly useless details or the mixed signals it send.

>What's the deal with the council balls?
Is this a thing in the book? What's their purpose/symbolism? Why does the show insist on not using them anymore? Why keep them as prop if they don't want to use them anymore?

>Why the obsession with rats?
Seriously, what's the deal with the fucking rats? They are mentioned constantly (and shown on screen too), just hire new ratcachers ffs or introduce the fucking cats already. Why waste budget and screen time on such useless things?

>Sunfyre had gleaming gold scales, which shone like beaten gold in the sunlight, and pale pink wing membranes. His flames were golden as well. According to Archmaester Gyldayn, Sunfyre was the most beautiful dragon ever seen in the known world.
>Picrel, show Sunfyre.
Really? It's CGI, they could make it light up like an RGB stick of ram if they wanted but instead they do this, why? Even as real prop (like they seemingly used in the last episode, for some unknown reason, money laundering would be my guess) it wouldn't be fucking hard to paint the thing in gold.
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>>221811833
Its literally not gay to like twinks. They are femenine coded.
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>>221811890
That's fuckin' gay, anon
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>mashala Gwayne, we must fight the americ-the blacks as the scorpion strikes the ox. Gods willing the IDF, I mean the iron bank will provide us with weaponry and funding
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>>221811882
>Is this a thing in the book? What's their purpose/symbolism? Why does the show insist on not using them anymore? Why keep them as prop if they don't want to use them anymore?

No, not in the book. Its cringe. In the HBO behind the scenes stuff, they explain that they were added so that Rhaenyra could tell the council to stop using them, showing that she focuses on pragmatism over tradition.
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>>221811916
Gay thread
Gay lands
Gay house and prince
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>>221811882
>Seriously, what's the deal with the fucking rats? They are mentioned constantly (and shown on screen too), just hire new ratcachers ffs or introduce the fucking cats already. Why waste budget and screen time on such useless things?
larys is a warg and is using the rats to spy on everyone
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>>221810290
At the end of her arc, Mysaria is offered to be spared if she manage do to a walk of shame from the red keep to some other point in town, while being whipped as she walk. She dies halfway through, naked in the streets of LK, where she belong.
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>>221811733
>>221811811
>>221811849
George put as much effort into writing Aryanne, Brienne, Aeron, Victarion, Cersei POV's as he did any other character in the first three books, if not more. All defined fully realized characters.
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>>221811882
>Seriously, what's the deal with the fucking rats? They are mentioned constantly (and shown on screen too), just hire new ratcachers ffs or introduce the fucking cats already. Why waste budget and screen time on such useless things?

Its to remind you that Aegon hung the rat catchers and is a bad guy. It also shows that the city was already shit before Rhaenyra got there. Basically so the audience knows that she isn't to blame for everything being shitty. Aegon did and she is cleaning up behind him.


>Really? It's CGI, they could make it light up like an RGB stick of ram if they wanted but instead they do this, why? Even as real prop (like they seemingly used in the last episode, for some unknown reason, money laundering would be my guess) it wouldn't be fucking hard to paint the thing in gold.
Same as CGI in all movies now. Its entirely outsourced to India. It doesn't matter what notes you send; they won't read them. They got an order for dragon, ripped a model from Skyrim, retextured, and said "its dragon, saaar". And if you come back with "That's not Sunfyre. It should have golden gleaming scales". They will just say "yes its dragon delivered as asked. ticket closed"
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Why is Criston such a queenfucker? Would he have fucked Cersei too?
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>>221811599
>Timothy Chalamet
>Tom Holland
Let go of these old uncs already, holy fuck. Link is like 17-19 years old.

>Weird they went for a total unknown
It's not weird at all. Celebrity casting for the sake of it is soulless and most 17 year old actors are going to be relatively unknown anyway.
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>>221810383
Possible. Could just be camera angle, haircut, and such too.
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Never watched hotd because of the black people, is it recommended here? I liked akotsk a lot.
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Westeros is so ridiculously big. No one king should ever be able to rule over a land that size. Very unrealistic. It would take almost a year to just travel from north to south on horseback
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>>221811968
Yeah, but that won't happen in the show.
>Mysaria is a lesbian POC. So she must have a dignified death
>The show doesn't do female nudity. At least not for named characters
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>>221812001
He's an honorable man and he never broke his vows
END OF STORY
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>>221811381
>22 female
>16 male
japs know it'll get zoomers to buy tickets
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>>221812001
Cersei hates dark skinned men. She would think he is too short and greasy.
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>>221810383
The HOTD make and cinematography team fucked everyone up this season. The entire cast looks fat. Alicent, Daemon and Haelana particularly like they were auditioning for The Whale.
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>>221810483
We already know "Aegon's speech" is a rugpull moment. The speech we all heard leaked is played for laughs. Basically Aegon gives a rousing a speech, and then it cuts to a group of rabble totally unphased by it.
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>>221811386
Haeleana makes it to Ep 8 from BTS pics and we know she has a birthing scene from the trailers. So I guess they are going to have her give birth then take the leap. Maybe Maelor will stillborn and that drives her more crazy.
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>>221812052
but he's pale
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>>221812031
No fucking shit? George's worldbuilding already deals with this. Each Lord Paramount is basically their own king. Think of Westeros as similar to the Holy Roman Empire which was also gigantic.
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>>221812144
Nigger he looks straight up Portuguese. No one cares about this cartoony ass fanart.
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>>221812001
Wouldn't you?
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Apparently Ep5 is more Aegon focused
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>>221811164
>Verily I say unto you, without the baboon's science, not a single soul on this planet (and especially not White people) would have thought of grinding peanuts into a paste.
The delusions of lesser beings should be studied seriously.
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>>221812115
uuuoooogh need
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>>221812232
I look forward to the humiliations he'll be subjected to
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>>221812038
Explain.
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>>221812031
Ridiculously large empires have existed in our World. Mongol, British, Spanish, Persian, etc. Controlling that size of territory has always come down to logistics.
Which is why the Targs built the Kings Road in order to quickly move troops and facilitate trade. The Achaemenids had a similar highway network they used for communications Pony Express style that way the centralized authority was aware of what was happening in the empire and could address it accordingly.
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>>221811975
Winds is impossible to write as a direct consequence of how bad Feast and Dance are. You're also forgetting about a dozen new PoVs
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>>221812159
That isn't at all how it works though. Fire and Blood treats everything as though its like the size of Ireland. Everyone knows everyone.
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>>221812232
A whole episode turned humiliation ritual until sunfyre burns the bandits, great.
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Bros why did the Lannisters attack all the Riverlords in the original GoT? That made no sense to me because they should have just focused on fighting the North.
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>>221811811

He was originally going to do a timeskip after Storm of Swords to age up the characters and quickly give the child characters adult level competency and agency in the story. Jon would spend years leading the Night's Watch and integrating the Wildlings, Dany would have years of experience being a Queen maintaining uneasy peace over the subjects she conquered in Mereen, Sansa would learn to be a Machiavellian political manipulator with Littlefinger in the Vale, Arya would be training to be a Faceless Man in Braavos, and Bran would be mastering autistic weirwood magic with Bloodraven. Theon would be getting gigaraped by Ramsey for years.

The adults wouldn't need to change much but they were positioned where they could be holding patterns for a few years. Tyrion presumably would be going on a years long bender through Essos. Cersei's epic schizo winemom saga running Westeros in the ground while being puppeted by multiple factions would be over years and not months. Stannis would be held up in Castle Black waiting out the winter to attack the Boltons.

For some fucking reason he felt these plot elements were too compelling to happen off screen so he axed the timeskip and decided to show the reader all of this happening in real time. The Ironborn, Dornish, and Young Griff/ Golden Company plotlines are wheel spinning filler meant to give the reader the false impression the story is progressing instead of having every detail of several training montages autistically described to them for 2000 pages.

If you can point to a single reason the series got derailed, it's this. He can't admit it was a mistake because he can't undo it. Feast and Dance were originally one book split into two with the ending sawed off and grafted on the beginning of Winds. That decision is the entire reason those books even exist. He committed to the logical end point of "erm what was Aragorn's tax policy" and he paid the price for it with his life's work.

tl;dr- Fat, autistic.
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>>221812277
At least he made a friend
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>>221812168
Looks too young. Boobs too big as well.
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>>221810124
egg is icsh
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>>221812159
The distance between the wall and Starfall is more than 3 times that between Siena and Denmark.
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>>221812319
They were also worried about Renly and Stannis. They weren't going to march a whole army up to Winterfell. So the plan was to raid all over the Riverlands, causing war weariness in the Riverlands, and depleting them of food so that it would be hard for Robb's army to stay supplied as he came through. Its why Robb was so pissed when Edmure drove Tywin off. Robb wanted to turn Tywin's own strategy against him, and raid into the Westerlands, using their food stores to sustain army while Tywin had to chase him around. But when Edmure drove Tywin off to King's Landing, that plan would no longer work.
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>>221812311
>>221812328
Jaime and Cersei plots are kino and i wouldn't want them to be skipped.
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>>221812159
HRE comparison only works if the Kaiser had nukes and every duke was terrified of him personally. The second the dragons are gone Westeros should Balkanize in like 20 years. "Lord Paramount" is just cope for "local king who pinky swears to mail taxes to King's Landing". GRRM made a continent-sized feudal state then writes it like everyone lives two towns over.
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>>221812319
Starks and Tullys are allied
>somehow march through the riverlands unmolested
>begin attacking da norf
>get ass raped by the riverlords to the south while the northern lords to the north skull fuck you
>or riverlads just set the westerlands on fire while you're off galavanting in the grey waste
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>>221812409
the reason everyone didn't immediately get rid of the targs was because they were still useful. They had the legitimacy of being a central, ruling authority which was mostly good for the kingdom and they've been ruling for many years by then so the people are used to the. If you get rid of them, it just becomes a pain in the ass to replace everything. It was only until they declined during The Mad King's reign that they've finally decided to get rid of the targs.
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>>221812407
Yeah, but you could do a timeskip and then later backfill in the plots that weren't shit with short novels. All the Dorne/Dayne and Ironborn shit would have gone over a lot better if they were standalone novels that filled in backstory as opposed to shit that just fills like filler distracting from the core of the main story (as a delay tactic).
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>>221812168
I put on my green contacts and pirate hat.
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>>221812319
The conflict was originally between Tywin and Tullys because of a stunt Catelyn pulled with Tyrion. No one expected an all-out war to break out and Tywin wasn't even taking Robb seriously.
>>221812396
He said GoT.
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>>221812311
The Quentyn chapters are certified hood classics.
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SEX WITH EMMA DARCY

I NEED TO FEEL THEIR THEY/THEMUSSY ON MY PENIS
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>>221812319
when in doubt, sack the riverlands
you cant go wrong
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>>221812480
Can't wait for Winds to release so its finally revealed that my nigga is still alive
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>>221812500
t. Greyjoys
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He could just cut some of the Tyrion and Brienne's travelogues so the Stannis' battle and battle of Meereen fit in and something happens in these books.
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>>221812286
Japan has trending hard toward old woman/younger male fetishes in the last few years.
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>>221812511
it was larys
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>>221812484
You just know she would immediately revert back to femininity the second she got a good hard dicking by a real man but the problem is she is with some nu-male beta low T basedboy who has never made her orgasm
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>>221812548
Oh yeah, you sound like an expert in Japan.

(yikes)
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>>221812505
>the Valyrians bred the instinct into their dragons to roast rhoynar fucking shits just enough to put them on death's doorstep but no more, just to make them suffer
Seems like something they'd do.
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>>221812547
I don't get why he is so focused on the "Mareenees knot" to begin with. Literally no one fucking cares about Mareen. Everyone is ready for Dany to get to Westeros. Just have a fucking rebellion that forces Dany to flee, introduce her to fAegon, have them get bethrothed, and then sail them to fucking Westeros so they can finally be involved in the plot. You can always split them up after they get to Westeros.
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>>221812547
Here's what I remember from Tyrion's story in Dance
>meets Faegon and Jon Con and learns about their plot
>gets kidnapped by Jorah
>fights stone men
>gets enslaved
>makes it to Meereen and joins the mercenaries(?)
This is all spread out over more than a dozen chapters
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>>221810888
t. Barbrey Dustin
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>>221812554
He didn't stand so good when that cunt Cregan got a hold of him.
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>>221812607
Arigato!
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>>221812625
>oh n-
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>>221812618
>Dany to flee, introduce her to fAegon, have them get bethrothed, and then sail them to fucking Westeros
Anon, Aegon ALREADY IS in Westeros.
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My wife was making funny of me for watching a show with the Hunter Shaffer as the lead
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>>221811924
>>221811981
I don't even know what to say. Thanks for the info. I miss ten minutes ago when I was blissfully ignorant of how absolutely retarded all of this is.
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>>221812618
She would look bad if she left so soon after what happened in Astapor. Gurm really should have made that timeskip.
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>>221812311
>Winds is impossible to write as a direct consequence of how bad Feast and Dance are
No, it's because the fat man is afraid of disappointing the fans like the show did and probably doesn't know how to write the magical plots now that Euron is in the game/Bran is in weirwood cave.
>Dozen new PoV's
Arya, Sansa, Sam, Jaime and Areo Hotah? Arys Oakheart one-off chapter? Did i forget anyone else?
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>>221810124
>Characters that would have ended the Dance before it started.
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>>221812407

I agree Cersei's Feast plot is apex kino and my favorite POV of the series, but you can easily alter the timescale so that her descent starts when we rejoin her in the time skip instead of immediately when she finds Tywin's body. Shit, now that I'm thinking of it you could even use her to bridge the gap pre and post skip by giving her alone several POVs in a row that have big jumps in time showing her mental state deteriorating.

Jamie is the only POV I think that has any real urgency in his story that needs to be followed up on immediately after Storm. He's clearly done with Cersei so it's not believable he'd hang around the Red Keep doing nothing but resent her (while also doing nothing to stop her ruining everything), but he's also developed enough that he won't just abandon Tommen or Myrcela for a wheel spinning plot cul de sac for years.

It's tricky to make it work from a writing standpoint, but George would be much better positioned than the biblical clusterfuck he's in now. I know numbers aren't his strong suit, but even he should be able to grasp it's easier to troubleshoot ONE important POV character and their plotline than THIRTY FUCKING ONE OF THEM.
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What happened to the two old white dudes that were advising RhaeRhae at D-stone? Shouldn't they be on her council right now at kingslanding?
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>>221810197
>show logic
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>>221812744
ramsay would have raped someone that much i do know
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>>221812778
he is white and that would mean one less black folx on the screen
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>>221812731
>Arya, Sansa, Jaime and Sam
>new POVs
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>>221812731
Yes, a lot. Look at all these fucking characters getting <4 chapters that literally no one gives a shit about. What is the point? No one read Storm of Swords, and then said "Wow, I sure hope they add 3 Greyjoy POVs in the next book!"
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>>221812781
BEHOLD THE WORKS OF RHAENYRA TARGARYEN
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>>221812480
who the fuck is quentyn? and are there more dragons than dany's three kids in those books?
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>>221812328
>>221812547
>>221812618
What i don't understand is why even include all the travelogues? The books are already bloated as it is, why add filler that's not even that interesting to read? Especially since GRRM ended up cutting the resolutions to several plotlines because of it?
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>>221812778
She had a line about her old advisors can stay on Dragonstone because they "betrayed" her, which I think means left her locked in her room. Even though we only saw Jace and the Kingsguard involved in that.
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>>221812834
no her dragons killed quentyn
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>>221812834
A dornish guy who travels to Daenerys to marry her but gets rejected and a dragon kills him (four chapters btw).
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>>221812835
Because he literally does not know where the plot is going or what to do. He added a bunch of filler so he could get those books out the door.
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>>221812835
Because that his the spirit of the series. We must know about every characters tax policy, slow and boring road trips, and the state of their bowel movements.
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>>221810888
They hated him because he told them the truth.
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>>221812829
Did he died?
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>>221812826
Greyjoy PoV chapters are pure kino, I wouldn't mind more of them and less Dorne, Riverland travells and Yawnssos.
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>>221812887
Nah most kids can survive a severed head
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>>221812744
>Ramsay, the master of the kennels
>"you know what, lets make his actor voice Rakarth in Total Warhammer!"
did they do this intentionally?
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>>221812826
So even with ADWD/AFFC combined there's barely 9 new POV's, three of them one-offs? I thought as much.
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Bros, why do the Blackfyres keep coming back? Why cant they get ris of them for good?
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>>221810124
He shall rise like the Phoenix!!!!!!!!
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>>221812835
We NEEDED to learn that there are big turtles in Rhoyne river and that the people of Volantis eat beetroots.
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>>221812744
>the worst characters paired together
Fund it.
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>>221812924
24th time the charm!
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>>221812778
They betrayed her by not agreeing with her bad decisions and making suggestions she didn't agree with
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>>221812927
>that there are big turtles in Rhoyne river
Actual kino scene.
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>>221812924
They have the sword.
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>>221811066
>strawman
kek
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>>221812927
There are beetroots in GRRM's world?
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>>221812950
How is Arya one of the worst characters?
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>>221812993
They were, but king Tommen banned them.
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This show is deeply stupid and I predict it will only get dumber the more they diverge
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>>221811122
is this supposed to be taken seriously?
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>>221812927
and the fascinating ruins of ghoyan drohe and zoyan brohe and droyhan zhoe
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>>221812829

Did everyone just forget?
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>>221811122
I mean, he gets slapped around by his own bannermen and is only saved from certain destruction during the battle of the honeywine by a Valyrian on a dragon showing up.
Ormund is in fact a complete idiot.
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Fuck it. Do a spin-off show set in Yi Ti.
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>>221813043
Yeah i mean she gave some people food so obviously
Also the ratcatchers dont forget about them
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>>221810888
Very kosher post, Moishe, but we won't be listening to you incestuous schizos.
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What is gayer calling another man 'my silver prince', 'my sweet king' or 'my knight of fish and onions'?
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>>221813046
Which episode was that?
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>>221813043
Bracken twink remembered.
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>>221813043
in reality no one gave a fuck
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>>221812829
Was this one of the rat catchers? Aegon hanged the rat catchers; the fucking tyrant.
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>>221813043

Only really mattered in the books, where the smallfolk remembered and rose up against Rhaenyra to seek justice (killing her last Strong son).
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>>221810124
>the only way GRRM could find a way to logically redeem the entire premise of the Blacks was to kill off the bastard heirs that delegitimized Rhaenyra

kek
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>>221813087
>Bracken has good memory
Its a subtle hint they are right about the feud.
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>>221813098
And now the queen breeder-thing sits on the throne driven insane by rats yes-yes!
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Why does gurm suck off the Blackwoods so much? What is it about them?
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>>221813104
Even GRRM knows Rhaenyra is a usurper, it's why he has her own descendants reject her.
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>>221813131
Horse girl rejected gurm in high school.
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>>221813103
>smallfolk

In the show, they are going to make it the Nobles, aren't they? The small folk will be on her side, but those damn nobles will do the rioting.
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>>221813131
>Why does gurm suck off the Black
he's a whiteboy that knows his place
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>>221813103
that's not true they rose up when haleana killed herself and larys spread the rumor of rhaenyra killing her and syrax killed the last strong
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>>221813131
it's a holdover from the first three books, when he was more interested in the first men and old gods than he was the targs
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>>221812884
ASOIAF always had terrible pacing (past AGOT), it's just that there was enough plot progression to mask it.
>Arya travels with the Night Watch for 5 chapters before getting captured
>Three POV chapters for Davos in ACOK
>Three chapters for Bran in ASOS
>Endless Tyrion chapters of him talking with Varys and fucking his whore girlfriend
>Five chapters of Jon Snow defending the Wall only to get bailed out by Stannis in the end
Don't forget GRRM's favorite
>Huge happening resolves everything in one chapter
Or
>Shit happens off-screen, characters react, rinse and repeat
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>>221813001
Are we serious?
She's plain but also incredibly beautiful for some reason, standoffish but inexplicably liked by everyone she meets, not like other girls, as we are constantly reminded whenever she graces the page, and lest we forget super special and in possession of special powers.
Arya Stark is a female young adult novel protagonist with a horrible British accent.
She's not just one of the worst characters, she's actively offensive to good taste.
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Is it true that up until the Dance of the Dragons, Caraxes is actually the most combat experienced dragon? Vhagar yes has more overall but hasn't fought in like 50 years
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>>221813131
He loves the idea of a magic house descendent from the first men, which was supposed to be the Starks, but he fucked up all the Stark characters and hates them now. So he wanted to start fresh with a new house.
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What's the worst chapter in the books?
>Hard Mode: worst chapter in the first three books
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>>221812826

The POV structure is so clearly a hindrance rather than a help to him at this point. As an effect of the plot going out of control and expanding when it should be contracting, he has to come up with more POVs to show the reader what's going on without them being privy to any scheming or battle plans so he can still have dramatic payoffs and twists. The whole reason the Mereenese Knot was such a headache for him is because he needed the sequence of events to go in exactly the right order so the reader can get an idea of what's generally going on in Essos but not enough where any big setpiece moments get spoiled before they happen.

It's such a GRRMism to give yourself such a crippling restriction and still periodically cheat your way out of it when you get lazy anyway. We get a look into Ned and Barristan's inner thoughts and yet neither of them have ANY explicit inner monologue about anything pertaining to Rhaegar and Lyanna they personally witnessed which obviously shaped everything about their lives and is directly relevant to what they're doing in the present. That's so fucking crazy George, very cool and convenient!
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>>221813081
The book, idk I wouldn't watch house of the dragon if HBO paid me.
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>>221813146
Of course.

>>221813148
>The rumor of Queen Helaena’s “murder” was soon on the lips of half King’s Landing. That it was so quickly believed shows how utterly the city had turned against their once-beloved queen. Rhaenyra was hated; Helaena had been loved. Nor had the common folk of the city forgotten the cruel murder of Prince Jaehaerys by Blood and Cheese.
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>>221813160
>shit happens off screen
I am glad someone else finally noticed this. Its why Cat chapters suck such donkey dick. Its not that Cat is a bad character per se, but her chapters all seem like excuses to write about a boring woman sitting in a boring room doing nothing while big important events happen and then just get told to her in short form by a messenger.
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>>221813161
>incredibly beautiful
kek
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>>221812887
Nah. Valyrians are like worms. They can just grow a new head if you cut one off.
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>>221813201
>That it was so quickly believed shows how utterly the city had turned against their once-beloved queen
yes, they knew about blood and cheese but they rose up with they thought she killed haleana
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>>221813188
Most Arya chapters after she escape the Bolton camp are nothing but her, Gendry, and Hot Pie wandering around. You can tear them out and lose literally nothing from the book.
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>>221813208
That's really only in ASOS when her passive phase begins
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>>221813228
Helaena and her son, as the passage points out. Anon asked if Jaehaerys was forgotten, and the book says no.
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>>221813188
Were the things he did during his last episodes really that out-of-character? I mean he was kinda desperate for the siege to end quickly
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>>221813223
I would also have preferred George binning the comparisons between her looks and Lyanna's.
But it is what it is.
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>>221813233
Also in ACOK when she watches the battle of the fords from the castle walls.
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Any tits in s4?
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>>221813277
no
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>>221812950
book Arya is pure kino, the show ruined her by season 2. Hers is probably the hardest POV to adapt considering all the magic and how much of what makes her interesting is internal monologue type stuff. D&D are hacks and lacked the skills to make it work, so they just turned her into ebin mary sue fighter with no emotions

ramsay is objectively dogshit and they made him into joffrey 2.0 as a bad guy for viewers to hate, in the books he's a clown
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>>221813266
only jon really wanted to fuck her (in his mind) for some reason
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>>221813270
Yeah, but it works there within context. It's after that when she loses agency.
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>>221813223
>he doesn't know
she gets called attractive many times in the books, the Faceless Men say if she doesn't want to be one of them they'll let her be an apprentice for the most beautiful and richest courtesan in the world if she wants(descendent of Aegon IV)

the show warped people's perception because the actress grew up to be an ugly bong slag. Ironically Jon Snow is the ugly one in the books, dude is never once called out as being good looking and is a clone of Ned
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>>221813408
>called out as being good looking and is a clone of Ned
hold on, wasn't young Ned literally gigachad incarnate?
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why did GoT drop Meera?
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>>221813299
I just hate Arya's story because it has main character syndrome in a way the others doesn't. Like her just happening to save a man from a burning prison wagon, and that man just so happening to be leader of an order of super powerful wizard assassins is too much of a stretch. And then she becomes cup bearer just by happenstance to Vampire Roose.
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>>221813408
>the show warped people's perception because the actress grew up to be an ugly bong slag
it's funny to think what season 1 /got/ thought was going to happen
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>>221813439

Is Roose really a vampire?
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>>221812384
luke is icsh
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>>221812547
We really didn't need to see Brienne wandering around the Riverlands looking for Sansa who we audience knows isn't there.
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>>221813450
People have unrealistic expectations because in films characters grow up from one child actor to another grown up actor who have nothing in common. But in reality people don't change much. If you have a flat wide face, you'll keep that into adulthood.
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>>221813485
he dead
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>>221813477
Its an abandoned plotthread. CoK Roose was very thoroughly described as being off in every way, but then GRRM never comes back to it.
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>>221812884
>and the state of their bowel movements
It's interesting the amount of book authors and mangaka who just cannot go two chapters without mentioning their obvious fetish for bodily fluids, unpleasant smell, shit, and lolis.
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>>221812919
Why even fucking bother with the PoV structure I'd you can just pop into a random NPCs perspective for a single chapter?
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>>221813201
>Nor had the common folk of the city forgotten the cruel murder of Prince Jaehaerys by Blood and Cheese
Kek well obviously that's not going to work in the show.
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>>221812924
You can't keep a good dog down
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What epin twist do you think is planned for God's Eye. They made sure we know there is a Green Man there. So Daemon is probably getting pulled from the water by a Green Man. But then what becomes of him? Him and Rhaena ride off?
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>>221813416
No Brandon was.
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>>221812926
>Sunfyre the grey with a bit of dirty gold here and there.
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>>221813277
Nope but we seem to reach the schlong quota every episode.
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>>221812030
Only season 1. Then you can just shitpost here with the rest of us.
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>>221813191
That's why he has to have Bran. Bran will give him an excuse to have a God's Eye pov to loredrop all the McGuffin plot devices.
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Sunfyre seems like kind of a weak dragon desu senpai.
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>>221813648
He’s been covered in dust and ash for months
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>Tumbleton has mass gang rapes of 8 year olds
Is HBO going to break the taboo? Are they going to give us pure cunny?
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>>221813652
but why? Why is HotD so afraid of showing us booba?
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>>221812924
The victor isnt victorious if the vanquished doesn’t consider himself so

Tldr? GET UP
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>>221813670
you're going to trigger the greenfags
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>>221813558
Its why people are drawn to writing. Its the only outlet for the extreme or illegal fetishes.
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>>221812480
>winds comes out
>first chapter is Quentyn :D
>first chapter is Quentyn :(
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>>221813616
>Daemon is resurrected by the Green Men, goes beyond the wall, and becomes Coldhands, awaiting Bloodraven
>Condal and Hess completely forgot D&D made Benjen Coldhands and only realize it in Behind the Scenes interviews where they laugh about it
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>>221813703
It'd be hard to justify in the plot why every green in a 150 mile radius wouldn't hone in on the bare titty and start raping
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new thread

>>221813817
>>221813817
>>221813817
>>221813817
>>221813817
>>221813817
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>>221813616
Daemon will crawl out somehow. Ignoring the fact that the lake literally boiled when caraxes and vhagar fell into it
They will feed the fanservice by having Daemon survive and have rhaena save him and he disappears from the story

This ruins the canon because the burned men were in GOT, but condal doesnt care for that
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>>221812826
Greyjoys POV are like the best part of the book
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>>221813071
>my silver prince
Depend on the context, I guess.
>my sweet king
That sounds really gay.
>my knight of fish and onions
That sounds weird, almost like a mockery, but not inherently gay.
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>>221813670
He's a young dragon piloted by a young & arrogant rider. Shenanigans ensue.
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>>221813928
Cute.
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>>221813533
luke did not die. dragon's teeth barely missed him and only caught on his clothes stripping him nekkid. he washed ashore unconscious, amnesiac and nekkid where a teenboy with blond hair and blue eyes found him and carried him in his arms and
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>>221813670
>>221813717
so what? sunfyre was famous for his beauty not strength. why would we chimp out over the most beautiful dragon



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