>The le Sea Peoples are coming…>This le Bronze Age of ours is… collapsingBRAVO NOLANSeriously why is no one talking about the most ‘morbing time’ line of the whole movie?
>>221826346>its bronzing time
>>221826346>you are a sea people>for u
>>221826346>We're in for a dark age huh?
I'm going to bronze age the shit out of this.
>>221826346It's because Nolan is a chud and hates immigrants, Elon and the incels on 4chan haven't understood that yet.
>>221826346Does Matt Damon look into the camera and winks like han solo did in the force awakens when he delivered that "I always shoot first" line?
>We’re going beyond even the modern era… we’re entering into something… ‘post’ modernity
>>221826411Sheeshhhhhhh
I can’t be a king and father. I have to go bury some body videotapes.Great ending
>>221826346
>>221826346>Makes numerous references to the “Bronze” age>None of the weapons or armor depicted are made of bronzeWhat did he mean by this?
>>221826346No Xochitl no watch.
>>221826530>I can’t be a king and fatherDad*
>>221826346No joke he actually says this line word for word besides the “le”Took me right out of it as much as the rapper mumbling being the opening of the whole movie
>>221826346nobody with triple digit iq has watched the whole 3 hours
Please tell me they don't say these things.
>>221826346Sea people are centuries before troy
>>221826620I admit, I was spamming the skip 5 second button for the last 40 minutes.
>>221826650They do.
What site can I watch this for free.
>>221826346>scheisse ww1
>>221826679no
>>221826650I think two characters say it. Odysseus and some Greek guy in the beginning.
>>221826346>"one day, odysseyus, your name will be synonymous with a great journey">"but who was synonymous">"hahaha" [credits]>[Travis scott] alright niggers listen up, east side west side if the Mediterranean, yeah boi, uhhhrgh, weez ride or die luggage fuckers, stuff of legends, yo, yo, yo (continues monkey garbage)It was cringe
>>221826346Who are the “sea people” supposed to be?
>>221826346Bravo Nolan
>>221826729https://gofile.io/d/U8BxsOidk
>>221826650Not only does Odysseus say it verbatim toward the end of the film, Penelope earlier on is told something vague about Sea Peoples and also used the word ‘collapse’ >So our civilization really is collapsingSomething like that. It’s very strange and out-of-character and nearly fourth-wall breaking to hear characters making remarks about their own world like they’re in a freshman History essay.
>>221826862It may have started with a group from Sardinia called the Nuragic culture. One reason the Sea People are so mysterious to this day though is because they sort of snowballed as they raided across the Mediterranean. Sometimes the people they displaced joined them or were inspired by them and raided their own neighbors. The same thing that happened when the Huns arrived in Germany in the 4th century AD.
>>221826716>>221826845>>221826922That pushes this movie towards so bad it's good territory. It seems like a movie that couldn't decide on what it wanted to be.
>>221826346>I am the Sea People?
>>221827341Because the odyssey itself sucked and the trojan war parts were way more interesting. The biggest trvke though is that it should’ve been directed by Zack Snyder with Nolan producing
>>221827341Tenet had another great one>Everyone and everything who ever lived... destroyed. Instantly. Precise enough?>Including my son?
>>221827215I always found it weird that we know so little of them, the Egyptians fought them and beat them, and they, like many other civilizations, survived the Bronze Age Collapse (not unscathed, but still). Didn't they write anything down about them?
>>221827605imo it's a useful model created by historians to describe some kind of period of great turmoil, migrations, wars, raiding, invasions etc. that involved various people, it wasn't this single convenient great enemy sweeping across the Mediterranean, it doesn't add up for me.
SEA PEOPLE SEA PEOPLEBRONZE AGE COLLAPSEI KNOW WHAT THAT IS!!!
>>221827605They were basically barbarians from Europe and maybe West Turkey. They might not be as important as we though. Recently translated Late Bronze Age sources from Hittite cities don't even mention them - they talk about famines and the civil war.
>>221827605thats because "sea peoples" is complete pseudo history made up by french.Just like "celtic people".Surprise surprise ir*sh claim to be "sea peoples" by way of claiming they are "celtic"Just all made up mick history
>>221827605Writing shit down is taken for granted nowIt really didnt happen often in antiquity
>>221827605Egyptian depictions suggests they were a mixture of different people. Probably displaced by drought and famine, thus becoming doctors and engineers who wander the med.
>>221827605The Egyptians wrote a lot, but because the horde was so diverse they couldn't identify them. For that same reason they didn't have an organized leadership so they never treated with any region they raided.It's a mistake to think of them as one culture or even one wave. It was multiple waves of people displacing each other and raiding their neighbors to survive.
>>221827748They were the Meds - Sardinians, South Italians, Greeks, Western Anatolians, those were the Sea People.
>>221826862Well....the irony is that the sea people, irl, are greeks, or some close people, displaced by a drought/famine/...And if they are, a guy like Odysseus is lost likely to be one of them.
>all these armchair historians think Sea people are reallol
>>221827797Archeogenetics confirmed it. Aegean ancestry shows up in the Levant after the Bronze Age collapse.
Man, I hate sea people
>>221827730Yeah, moron. celts have distinct genetics. Let me guess, you are an edgy burger, and you think earth is flat, 6k yo, and dinos are a trick of satan ?FFS
>>221826346Did they really say bronze age? That's like watching a WW1 movie and someone goes on about it being the first world war.
>>221826873Even Nolan's son knows he's a fucking hack.
>>221826862It was an ancient transexual tribe, spreading progressive values around the mediterranean
>>221827730what the F*CK are you talking aboutirish are only vaguely celtic to begin with
>>221827858Yes. The movie is an abomination. I spent 25% of the time laughing hard, 25% bored as hell, and the rest staring,with empty eyes, at the absolute shitshow it is.
>>221827771Apparently the double dragon headed boats that are in Egyptian art about them were also used in the Danube river and Black Sea at the time, maybe it was a common style everywhere.
>>221826346The most awful line is quite simply "We're Greeks" spoken by a fucking pajeet>>>/wsg/6197200
>>221827823Wait a second...>The Sea People invaded Egypt around 1300BC.>The Jews left Egypt around 1400BC
>>221827926The greeks did not started with triremes, it's a late ship in their civilisation. Them having boats close to drakkars is not far fetched. Although i really like the trireme aesthetic.
>>221827797>internet anon knows best because he watched a 10 second clip oncehttps://youtu.be/bRcu-ysocX4?si=C77iZiJK_y-JwQ-0The book is great too.
>>221827935I don't get this scene, what languages are they supposed to be speaking in-universe? The old man is speaking actual modern Greek (I'm Greek), Odysseus' men are speaking English, and one of them is translating between the two. But they're all supposed to be Greeks. Is "English" here supposed to be one Greek dialect, and the old man's actual Greek another one?
>>221827959>The book is great too.Seconded!
>>221827950>The Jews left Egypt around 1400BCThey migrated from Babylon to the levant in the wake of the power vacumn left between the sea peoples attacks and the collapse itself.
>>221827950Is not even a meme but the sea people were settled in israel after the egyptians won against them. Was either the philistines or the pharisees.
>>221827950Possible Exodus is just a cover story for Egypt defeating them and them taking their frustrations out at some nearby Canaanites
>>221827983You are thinking more about it now that Nolan ever did in the years it took to make this shit
>>221827983My assumption is that it was just supposed to be a different/rare dialect of Greek which is why Eurolychus could translate. It didn't seem like a big deal story wise
>>221827834theres no such thing as "celt" you retarded mick cunt>>221827959it literally says on wiki that "sea peoples" was a modern invention
>>221826346>we're in some kinda Odyssey and shit?
>>221826346Soul...
>>221828057>it literally says on wiki
Free Peleset!
>>221828208yea idiot
>mfw Ashur shows upBut yeah, he was just extra in the background though.Kinda expected he had more scenes like maskettaman
>>221826346The Greeks were the sea peoples. The Bronze age collapse happened around 1200bc and the Odyssey was written/compiled around 800bc.
>>221826346No Xochitl no watch.Fuck modern Hollywood.
>>221828706Who?
I'm just not going to watch it lol :)
Isn’t the idea of Sea Peoples causing the Bronze Age collapse highly theoretical?That’s like if you made a movie about Albert Einstein and he looked directly at the camera and started talking about block universe theory.
no they know it was the sea people and climate change
>>221829254The Sea People were just local bandits realizing a golden opportunity in that there was no army going to come track them down.Do you think criminals across multiple cities are coordinating when they see similar opportunities?
>>221827605It's important to remember how terrifying boat peoples were in general in that age. There was no real long range communication, so if niggers came in boats (from the sea) and raiding your ass they could leave and you can't really do anything about it. You don't even know who the fuck attacked you, much less where to strike back at them. It's why the Vandals, Vikings, and so on became incredibly famous. The modern equivalent would be like a UFO just appearing, lasering NYC, then fucking off. Like yeah the US wants to nuke some ayys, but where and how? They're just sitting there, dick in hand, and really frustrated.Piracy was also a massive blight, so bad that it was standard for pirates to take double digit percentages of tributes from states at times and they captured nobility regularly. The US paid like 25% of its income to pirates at one point, Julius Caesar was captured by pirates, even a sitting Count.
>>221829336That's just not true; there were numerous pitched battles. >>221829254Yes, but so is all of history. The reality is the Sea Peoples did dismantle chariot warfare, which is well documented. Additionally, chariot warfare was the underpinning of the Bronze Age empires. So the argument in this case is extremely strong. But all history is trying to construct a narrative from damaged glimpses and biased sources.
>>221826650They also say>start the game already!and>monk! I need a monk!
>>221827983Why does he speak like that though? is he Cretan or some diaspora?
>>221826862>>221826862>>221826862pirates from mediterannean islands (Aegean, Sicily and Sardinia)
>>221827597that's not even the best one in it
>>221829431>there were numerous pitched battles.Such as? Stated by whom? More sea people theorists? The reality is that it was almost a lawless situation as the collapse occurred.
>>221826346Isn't he supposed to be Mycenaean Greek, I.E, one of the sea peoples mentioned by Ramesses?
>the sea people defeated every military power in the region and caused all their civilisation to collapse at the same time>then they disappeared and were never heard from again This is about as good a theory as extraterrestrials building the pyramids
>>221826492What's wrong with rhat scene anon?
>>221826346but what the fuck does The Odyssey have to do with the "Sea Peoples" invasion that destroyed multiple kingdoms at the end of the Bronze Age. What the fuck is wrong with this Nolan fag?
"It's ironing time!"And then they ironed out all over the Mediterranean.
>>221830048The Sea Peoples are the Acheans dumbass.
>>221830120
>>221830042Helen of Troy was never a fent ape.
>>221828000They're Phoenicians from Tyre.
wuz greeks
>I like sea men, I'd love it if Ithaca was full of sea menwhat did he mean by this?
This thread is confusing me. Did the Sea People come from Atlantis or are they the ones that sunk Atlantis?
sea peoplesea peoplelook like peopletalk like people
NO MORE DEAD AGES
>>221827959>>221827991I'm not wasting my time on anyone who muddies the water to make it seem deep. Nolan is a see through hack, spin job lackey who makes people leave the theater thinking about a man wanting to return to his wife as a some subversive retard instead of obfuscating for the circumcisers, I mean sea people.
>>221827463Are we the sea people?
>>221827910I at least expected the acting to be good, especially with the "all star" cast, but it was terrible. Maybe it the American english was to blame, but the dialogue was completely unconvincing.
>>221826615There's no way
>>221826862Sardinians (ancient Atlanteans)
Damon is such a bad actor holy shit
>>221826346strange the history/archeology fraternity aren't shitting all over Nolans 'I have seen the sea peoples enemy and it was us' meme. more proof, if it was needed, that 'historian' Tom Holland is a bought shill for promoting this horseshit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcu-ysocX4
>>221828057>"sea peoples" was a modern inventionhow are they a modern invention when they were most famously mentioned in ancient egyptian documents?
>>221826346>>The le Sea Peoples are coming…>>This le Bronze Age of ours is… collapsingJesus Christ! Not the Sea People!
>>221827605Cuneiform is probably the most there is. Merneptah and Ramses iii steles.
>>221826563Very good.
But does it bring up THE BEAR & THE BULL?
>>221826862illegal immigrants
>>221826346>Trump is now the president, Penelope!!!a little more subtlety next time, nolan
