How is Bear the villain when he tried to cancel the wish? He put up with her shit. He didn’t throw her out of his house after she made him a cat sandwich. Imagine if Bear as a woman. She would not put up with any of that shit.
>>221832548Movie is misandrist propaganda
loldouble standards
>People that sympathise with Bear are a bit of a red flag.Women are retarded
because he didnt kill himself immediately after talking to a stranger on the phone
>>221832548my gf unironically said he's still the villain because at first he tried to "just change the wish a little bit" instead of outright trying to cancel it and I didn't know what to reply without sounding like a chud
>Same I was a longtime watcher and I fell off after the heated rivalry video (some WEIRD ass takes in that one) and unsubbed after the obsession one, pretty convinced now that his ‘haha idk how to talk to women’ self deprecation shtick is just him being a for real misogynist.Women don’t deserve rights
>Faux feminist men are all over right now. Outing themselves as soon as a woman says something that irks them.God forbid men have an opinion
>Bear having sex with NikkiRapist>Bear having sex with Nikki and just ignoring herAlmost as bad as a rapist, and will likely get accused of rape anyway>Bear kills himself and dies an incelThis is the ideal male feminist, and what every timid nice guy should do to prove they have women’s best interests at heart
because he is an incel that wasted his wish on escaping the friendzone rather than freeing palestine or feeding the children of africa or demanding equal pay for women
>>221832548>How is Bear the villainHe thought the Odyssey had good casting
>>221832634*not having sex with Nikki and ignoring herIgnoring a woman is almost bad as rape in their eyes
Hes not a bad guy hes just a pussy. I would have killed that demon girl immediately
>>221832609>>221832625who are you quoting
>>221832597she was right
>Imagine if Bear as a woman. In that case overriding a man's free will wouldn't even be framed as a crime and it would be for his own good correcting and taming his toxic male behaviors despite his protests
>I watched this video. He’s actually disgusting. Years ago when I watched his Disney videos, he always gave off a Nice Guy vibe, very “nice guys finish last.”>He constantly downplayed the evilness of Bear while sexualising Nikki. His main deflection point was that Bear was a villain but he wasn’t always a villain and he didn’t know any better. Meanwhile he said “to his credit” when talking about Bear not immediately assaulting Nikki. Called Nikki a “crystal Latina mommy.”>Apparently he didn’t call the rape scene “rape” in his so-called apology video either. Just mentioned it in a pinned braindead comment. It was also a very “I’m sorry you got offended” video.>And to no one’s surprise, men in the comments were all supporting him, saying it’s “just a movie, move on” or “why can’t you accept his opinion on the movie” or “feminists and LGBTQ channels are attacking you now, ignore them” when it’s pretty clear his opinions are dangerously misogynistic.>I’m glad this movie is like a litmus test to separate men you should stay away from in your life if they ever sympathise with Bear.>From what I’ve learned he’s also almost 40, divorced once and broken up with by his gf now. Good on the ladies.Women need to be placed into camps holy shit
>That 24-year-old woman only wanted to have sex because of a magic ritual you didn’t even know was real, you sick fuck
He was the villain for not smashing that
Bahahaha
>>221832692Seconded.
LMAO
It’s not realistic for a store to sell a wish stick that works for like 2 dollars and have unlimited stock
>>221832725Women* recognize it right away Yeah okay bitch
“I haven’t watched it. Why is he so bad?”DOWNVOTEDOWNVOTEDOWNVOTE
>>221832751Just asking why something or someone is misogynistic is enough to get you dogpiled on reddit? That’s fucking funny as fuck
>>221832725DATS RIGHT if you ever fall in love with a female friend, youre basically a stalker rapist.
>>221832751bahahaha
>>221832751Don't you people get it? By wishing that she would love him more than anyone, he has made sure that the real Nikki is gone, replaced by one who WOULD fit the criteria, a demon. You take a person's free will away and you wonder why they're fucked up? You people are spiritual rapists
>>221832579kek
>>221832725>stalkerKek. Women really love this word. Originally, a stalker was someone who found your address and threw a brick through your window. Now, being friends with a woman and harboring complicated feelings that you don’t know how to deal with is “stalking”If you ever hear a woman claiming she was “stalked”, just ask her a few pointed questions about the situation and you’ll quickly learn she means something like:>he’s a stalker because I blocked him on Instagram and he texted me on Snapchat to apologize!
low iq quartz obsessed bitches are seething at all the men sympathizing with a male kek
>>221832960>>221832960lel
I really hate women
>>221832998By wishing something that affects other people, you take their freedom away from them, you possess them with demons and send the originals to hell. All of those wishy washy stories are rape-adjacent, if not brown-coded to say the least
>magically brainwashing someone and forcing them to have sex with you isn’t rape because… IT JUST ISN’T OKAYthis is what you all sound like
It keeps getting worse
>>221833028When you read Bear Defense posts in a jeet accent and then compare it body cam footage of Indians trying to explain to the cops that they didn't know rape was illegal outside of India then the posts make a lot more sense.
>>221833043All the posts are correct though. What exactly are you angry about?
>>221833043If I fucked you in the ass and told you it's love, would you let it happen? Would you let me cum inside too? Bear defenders are psychos
>>221832935no we still don't get it, write another paragraph explaining why
>>221832998>posts a screenshot of people saying the incredibly reasonable things >expects us to magically take his sideWhat did he mean by this?
Gas all women
>>221832597She is right, sisterHe realized the wish worked and mindfucked her and his first line of thinking was "how do I make this more comfortable for myself"
Bear had a lot of tolerance for her gross behaviour. Yeah he wasn’t that bad. Most men would have thrown her to the curb.
>>221832597She’s right and she deserves a better bf than you>>221833091You seem to like Reddit so much, why not go back there?
>>221832597She's right>>221833077you're a creep
>>221832548Did he sleep with the woman? If yes, that's a rape.
>>221833059They’re both victims. If you can’t see both as victims in their own way you’re not really all that intelligent of an individual.
How many men would try their hardest to cancel the wish? I don’t think many would do what Bear did. He didn’t send her to an insane asylum or anything.
>>221832548He only tried to cancel the wish once he learned he couldn’t alter it more to his liking which undoubtedly would’ve been “Nikki loves me but isn’t a deranged psycho about it”Real Nikki resurfaced and pleaded with Bear to end her life and thus her suffering and Bear refused, not because he wanted to find some way to help her without killing her, but because he took offense that Nikki took issue with being in a relationship with him. Yet real Nikki told him plainly that he was never once actually in a relationship with himBear only cared about himself and what he got out of the wish and if he could’ve had the wish changed to have freaky Nikki be more to his liking and real Nikki be completely suppressed he would’ve done itTry actually watching the movie sometime chuddies
>>221833043they are right framing it, but they are coming with the knowledge of the viewer that magic exists and these people are in a movie,they are both victims of the wish in the end but feminists can only see how bear raped a woman who seemingly INSISTED that he sleep with her
>>221833166>He only tried to cancel the wish once he learned he couldn’t alter it more to his liking which undoubtedly would’ve been “Nikki loves me but isn’t a deranged psycho about it”you have horrible media literacy
>>221833166>>221833183This, chuds barely passed middle school, as illiterate as the black men they criticize
>>221833166He actually wanted the wish cancelled period. He didn’t want it anymore. Nikki wasn’t worth it.
>>221832548
Retarded women would rather Bear either kill himself or kill Nikki rather than try to have another cancel the wish for him. Women only want death. Just like abortion.
>>221833196...you sure you're not the one who's illiterate? the two posts you quoted are disagreeing with each other. which one are you agreeing with?
>>221833242The latter, I just quoted the former for relevance
>>221833260but it was the former who was shitting on chuds...
>>221833309He's the real chud, playing dressup
>>221832579She must be wild
>>221833242These threads are only half assed and people are merely grazing comments and then responding to them. Shitposts all around.
>>221833309MEDIA LITERACY
>>221833232/threadWomen are so overly dramatic that they don’t want any of the effort put in to get out of the situation. Even if someone (…a man) tries to come up with a solution, he’s still blamed for it in the end.
Obsession threads are funny
>>221832935Why would a demon love anyone ?
>>221832692Thirded. She was down bad for him. He could've got her to remove the piercings.
>>221832692He could have settled for the one who liked him, but he wanted MORE
>>221832685
>>221833587Sad but true Women have ruined society
it seems like every new film makes the men vs women conflict worse, why do we even bother
>Wife watching it right now>Doesn't think he's a creep at all
>>221832548Yes, if the genders were reversed, there would be zero controversy and it would be praised as a feminist cornerstone of modern media. Welcome to current year lack of critical thinking and recognition of double standards.
>>221833404First time on 4chan?
>>221833683>if the shoe were on the other foot it would be different!lmao chuds are reaching a proportion....
I love Inde, thanks for making another Inde thread
>>221832725>fuck-zonedHuh. First time I see this term. Do women really expect single men their age not to want to fuck them eventually?
>>221832597A thing that bothers me about that scene is that people argue that it shows he'd have kept her brainwashed if she'd just act more normal, but that was before he heard her screaming on the phone and realizes what he's actually done
>>221832725>male friend has feelings for and that is dehumanizing to me, he's treating me as a piece of meat unlike this guy I met on Tinder and didn't even wait for consent to stick it inWhy do women do this?
if bear had wished for ian to love him, every single one of these guys would think it was vile
>>221833852what is it you libtards always say? stop making up imaginary scenarios to get mad at?
>>221833772Yeah for women its normal to not be sexually attracted to every person of the other sex that they meetOften they wanna like that person on a deeper level than just "OH HE HAS A BIG DICKUS AND NICE JAW"Which is why some women post themselves crying after a hook-up because often women want more of an emotional thing and not just sexMen are often different in that way and a lot of guys dont even care about being friends with women, they just do it so that they can get pussy maybe once in the future
>>221833898A movie is an imagnary scenario
>>221833924guess that makes your non-existent movie imaginary squared?
>>221833954I guess that makes bear a rapist, and you an incel.
>>221833969>babby starts crying and stomping his feet when confrontedkek funny libtard
>>221834046Alex Meyers lost
>>221833852Homosexuality causes the same reaction in heterosexual men that looking at a piece of rotten meat does. Pure disgust. This is true according to scientific experiment btw.So yes, we would rightfully be disgusted by faggotry. Straight men are inherently wired to be revulsed by homosexuals according to science.
>>221834064i'm sure he did, however, idk who that is. does him losing matter to you a lot?
>>221834075>man on manBear is a spiritual woman, just like you
>>221832548he's gay
>>221834094Think about it, why is it that conservatives cry all day about cinema going woke? Because there is no right wing cinema, we have every artist in the world, inherently, and you have Uwe Boll
>>221832548hes not a villain. it is a monkeys paw. the wish made her hate everyone more than him. this made her love bear more than everyone but she still didnt like him. a man would just spend his live alone but women cant do that so she went insane and became violent. glad the odyssey is out so we dont need to talk about this anymore
>>221834161The director said it isn't a monkey's paw, nor a demon possession movie, do you people even look things up?
>>221834125>mindless drivel, utterly unrelated to anything that was said beforeit's time to take a step away from the screen, i think your mind broke
>>221834184>ignoring the post cause facts are inconvenientand you call women cowardly?
Woah, now just hold up a minute there, buddy...
>>221834175the director doesnt decide these things. the audience does. its a monkeys paw as i described. hating everyone else more is the same as loving him most. everything is explained by standard female behavior. she wasnt possessed, she was burying her true self to fit in, like all women do, all the time.
>>221834454Foids are delusional, Bear could have given Nikki a happy life away from whoredom and loveless debauchery, but alas she made her bed and shat on it like Amber Heard, off to prison!
>>221834075Westboro was right and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>221832673>>221833098>>221833115>>221833120One samefag or a bunch of raiding retards from discord? You decide.
>>221832597Didn't he fuck her after that part? So he would know that she is still trapped in her own body while he's banging the fake version of her. I don't really remember but if that's what happened, then yea I'd say Bear is at the very least a bad guy.
>>221833183Please elaborate.
>>221833098>mindfucked herThis is not confirmed to the viewer or to Bear at all in that scene
>>221832548They're mad he didn't off himself immediately and call him a rapist because of it. Normies being psychotic, what else is new?
>>221832649>equal pay for womenit's more pay for women now, chud, and they already have it
>>221835341Are you retarded? The real Nikki was there with the "customer service" guy. Bear hung up before he could put her on the line.
>>221833760She looks better chubby
>>221832986L O L
>>221836385But dah directurr said it wasn’t possession doh :/
The villains were the monsters on the phone behind this evil magic.
>>221837425He fucked up the messaging with the phone call scene.
I think a lot of women (mostly) read his earlier behaviour as evil in retrospect after the film is done but claim to have "always known".
>>221837600Like killing his cat through sheer retardation? Friendzoning the one girl who actually wanted his dick?
>>221832548>How is Bear the villain when he tried to cancel the wish?lol what an idiotHow is a murderer the villain when he tried to bring the girl he murdered back to life after he got caught?Hurr durrrrrrrrrrrrrr
women will quite literally beat the shit out of you and then label you as an “abuser” based on a totally vague and non-specific allegation that you “tried to abuse her” and other women will instantly side with the woman who admitted to physically abusing her bf, btwWomen are wired to sympathize with other holes, they simply can’t fathom that a man can be a mutual victim, the sole victim, or anything but an abuser
>>221833792the director said that Nikki wasn't possessed (which is retarded imo since that's exactly what it looks like in the movie) so I think that the screaming on the phone was fake and made by the demon to mock Bear. Not that he could have known so it still doesn't justify him
>>221837668>65 viewsMaybe dont spend your life on twitter seeing the most retarded things you can and then mold your life after that?
>>221837674>Nikki wasn't possessedWell i think he meant its not a literal demon possessionIts more like the wish itself is controlling herWhich is kinda like a possession? Thats how i interpreted it
>>221837643Yes, depression explains attentiveness issues with the pet, and not recognising a good thing isn't exactly *evil*, is it?
>>221837709Ah yes, how could I forget that abuse stops existing when the person admitting abuse doesn’t have clout on Twitter dot comYou are very intelligent, keep sharing those amazing takes
>>221837674>>221837728I liked the film but looking at Barker's interviews it's pretty clear he had imagery in mind before mechanics, he doesn't seem to have a clear idea of how any of this works himself.
>>221834589brown opinion and they still hate you
>>221832692Don't put your dick in crazyThat's literally the message of the movieShe's got nothing but red flags
>>221832692I have a friend who looks like that
>>221832548It's when he starts fearing for his life, not when it's clear he's having sex against Nikkis will.
>>221837802I mean, you don't know that she's not telling the truth here either. You're taking vague hearsay from someone you never met describing self-defense and overdetermining that she must be lying because you had bad experiences yourself with women earlier in life (I'm being charitable, it's possible you just don't interact with women at all and get all your information on them from the internet).
>>221832573It isn't, it's just the Letterboxd reviewer crowd with low media literacy
>>221832663He's a bad guy BECAUSE he's a gigantic pussy.
>>221837802>abuse stops existing when the person admitting abuse doesn’t have clout on Twitter dot comYou really think that was my point?Its easy to find retarded takes on twitter, that does not mean you should take them seriously or even mold your life after them
>>221837728whatever it means there definitely wasn't Nikki's real spirit screaming at the phone, I just see it as a heavy case of split personality>>221837812yeah
Women celebrated the moment when Nikki threw Bear's body away like it was a piece of trash
>>221832692>he’s the villain because he didn’t want to settle for the fat friend
>>221833746Yet you have no counterarguments save for tired ad hominems
>>221834075>Women's disgust response towards me - irrational, stupid, evidence of their inferior nature>Men's disgust response towards homosexuality - righteous, scientific, rational, evidence of superior natureHmm
>>221837937I think that Sarah had it worse when her best friend bashed her head against a brick and exposed her naked corpse in the living room, if Nikki wasn't possessed it means that she had that batshit insane murderous side somewhere inside her all along
>>221832998>That wasn't Nikki, she didn't consentConsent to what? If it's not her, then she is not the one getting fucked
>>221837915>wasn't Nikki's real spirit screaming at the phoneI think it still was considering she was latter begging Bear for him to kill her
>>221833746No arguments, you know he's right
>>221838095>it means that she had that batshit insane murderous side somewhere inside her all alongWell, she was called Freaky Nikki… BPD and daddy abandonment issues turned up to 10 by the wish.
>>221838117her suffering was definitely real, I just think that the phone screaming was faked since I don't see how it could have happened without her soul being transported elsewhere
>>221838038>Women’s disgust response towards meI can’t help you with that one, chief. Maybe try some deodorant and a new haircut?>Men’s disgust response towards homosexualityYes, this is settled science. Heterosexual men are more viscerally disgusted by homosexuality than they are by women being raped.https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/bering-in-mind/equal-right-to-kiss-why-you-may-be-disgusted-by-gay-behavior-without-knowing-it/
>>221837643>Friendzoning the one girl who actually wanted his dick?Why do you fucking retards think men have the obligation to be attracted to the girls that are attracted to them?
>>221838347Sounds like the disgust response is a poor proxy for moral reasoning
>>221832935He is a bad guy, but the wish itself is completely innocuous. He had no reason at all to know it would actually happen or how it would manifest. He's a bad guy for how he reacts to the situation that follows, but the worst thing you can say about the actual making of the wish is that he promised his friend a gift and then used it himself.
>>221832685>when chud tries to be male feministi always knew he was something like that he was too weird to be a normie
>>221832685LMAO NO WONDER HE IS BEARTEAM>Meyers was engaged I think, but she was controlling and crazy, he left her and she kept Charlie because he was her dog
>>221832697yeah this movie is litmus test, but for crazy bitches
>>221832935On the nature of the wish, the culpability is on the manufacturer. The wish could also be fulfilled by making him into the kind of person she *would* be predisposed to loving. Barker says it's not a monkey's paw story, but the Willow absolutely fulfills the wish in the most malicious form it possibly could.
>>221838288I mean its just magic like the wish thingWhich is not a satisfying answer but its all i got
>>221838382If you think about this really, really hard, you might see the irony
>>221832548Hey buddy, odyssey spam is in vogue now, beat it
>>221838848Ian's wish disproves this retarded theory. Otherwise he would have been crushed under gold bullion or something.
>>221838864yeah it's probably not worth it to think about it too hard
>>221838888>8888Looks like Apollo himself has decreed it
>go to /tv”“Bear literally didn’t do anything wrong”>go to reddit“Bear is a rapist and a horrible person”it’s sad how fucking simplistic most internet conversations are about the film. The film is so much better than what most retards try to break it down into
Popping into this thread to tell you all that I haven't seen the movie. Closing the tab right after this post as well.
>>221838916That's a diegetic inconsistency, not a disproof of my thesis on how the narrative is constructed. In a case where an innocent third party could be harmed by a wish *or* a mutually beneficial scenario could be achieved, the Willow acts to harm the third party. This is because it's a horror film, of course, if it had altered Bear or given him reason to change himself this would be a very different film, but the construction Barker chooses *does* make the company liable, despite what he claims about the Willow's neutrality.
>>221838916>Ian's wish disproves this retarded theoryno it doesn't he dies 5 minutes later. Maybe a cartel would have thought that he stole their money and they would have found him and killed him, maybe him excitedly going to Bear's house and getting shot was part of it, the wish could have been malicious in many ways
>>221838948If only we could be smart like you
>>221838948Okay but Reddit is WRONG
>>221839019I'm the anon he was replying to; my point is that the story follows the Monkey's Paw plot structure despite Barker's claims, but it doesn't function as a Monkey's Paw with Ian's wish, his death is circumstantial and unrelated to the wish.
>>221839019>if you just assume Im right, then it actually proves my point!
>>221839007NTA but we also see the store-owner and he seems happy with how his wish went so there doesnt seem to be any monkepaw thing going on thereI think if you stop and read some of the fake-reddit replies that Bear looks up then they are either saying "its fake doesnt work" or it worked and they are happy or it worked and they are not happySo you know maybe they wanted to keep it wishy-washy
>>221832548If she was possessed by a demon, how can they call it rape? The demon was inhabiting her body, not Nikki. He was having sex with a consenting demon. The mental gymnastics here are insane
>>221839122The right to physical integrity extends to your entire body. That's why corpse fucking is illegal. But you're just pretending to be retarded.
>>221839122>If she was possessed by a demonShe was not, the director/writer said soNikki is still in the body which is why she screams out loud at certain parts and kinda surfaces sometimesShe just does not have control
>>221839076learn to read I didn't say that the theory is necessarily right i just said that your theory doesn't disprove it, apparently this is too nuanced of an argument for your peanut brain
>>221839180>She just does not have control...so who does?
>>221839080You're misinterpreting my point; I'm not saying that the One Wish Willow necessarily causes cursed outcomes, I'm saying that in the case of a wish, like Bear's, whicha) involves a third partyb) has *multiple* potential outcomes and routes to fulfillment, some of which would cause harm, some of which would notThe Willow selects a form of fulfillment which harms the third party. Not incidentally, either, like wishing for a gun, and then shooting someone - it's direct causation of harm by the Willow robbing Nikki of her free will and possessing her/suppressing her personality/torturing her. If the Willow interprets wishes involving uninformed third parties in ways that cause such obvious personal distress and injury, the company and vendors are obviously culpable; at best, negligent, if not actively engaged in malfeasance.
>>221839209>...so who does?The magic of the wish?
I literally couldn't watch this shit it's so fucking boring it's unreal just the same few faggots talking no actual horror talking over and over and then some bitch smashes her head with glass omg the horror ever heard of liveleak retard zoomgroids
>>221839227so she was possessed
Feels like I'm taking crazy pills when people say they would rather pick the dago over the hapa chick
>>221839227So she's not possessed by a demon, she's possessed by wish magic. Im really glad we got that cleared up.
>>221839238And then you told all your friends on 4chan
>>221839274
>>221839254>>221839284I dont think it changes muchShe was not in control but she was clearly still there and in agony from not being in control
>>221839304Imagine lusting for that thing on the left, sad
>>221839344>low T faggot
>>221832548Because he raped her
>>221839422No, the demon raped Bear by defrauding him.
>>221839336yeah but it feels like mr Barker doesn't understand what the word "possession" means, because being helplessy stuck in your body as somebody else controls it is 100% a form of possession
Speaking of testosterone levels, are they high or low if you like the girl in the diner?
>>221839476Pretty waitresses make the world go round, anon
>>221837858interesting headcannon. delightful neuroticism
There was no rape. Freaky nikki consented to the sex. Both minds inhabit the same body now. If real nikki chose to have sex with someone, would it mean that freaky nikki is the one being raped now? Or what about pic related, they share one vagina, does both heads have to agree to the sex or else the other is being raped?
>>221839499Am I wrong?
>>221834325>director makes a movie about sexual assault>director even confirms it was sexual assault>NAH BRO IT WASN'T SEXUAL ASSAULTinteresting.... is this the rapist mindset?
>>221839476is she this chick?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fbF5Js3Jhnc
>>221839624i think you think too much and yes you are wrong>schrodingers retard
>>221839626It's going to get tiresome if I can be convicted of rape because of temporary demonic possession
>>221839304nice paws
>>221839650No are you literally face blind? But the waitress is another comedy skit youtuber like a bunch of the actors in the movie.
>>221839393So high t means lasting for latinx goblins with crazy eyes and a man jaw?
>>221839650Nah she is older i think?
Why are women so unbearably cringe
>>221839759in group out group pressures and their causes
>>221837858>it's possible you just don't interact with women at all and get all your information on them from the internetWow, I had no idea women don’t use the internet. It’s completely impossible to get a woman’s perspective because I spend all my time online, which is known for being 100% male.Also, I didn’t imply that she was lying. I said that she didn’t describe the nature of the “abuse” she endured, so any claim that it was in self-defense is hollow. Especially when this “abuse” magically went away the moment she abused him.But maybe you have some knowledge I don’t have access to, since you apparently have so much experience with women, like with your knowledge that women apparently never visit the internet to share their own viewpoints.Are you good, bro?
>>221839759>Nikki could be any of usLiterally living in a fantasy world in her head.Last I checked the only magical thing that makes girls want to love you is providing money or drugs
why does the company that makes the willows possess tech beyond reality and use it for selling trinkets
>>221839759possessed? The movie has no demons, the director told me!
>>221839865Its not about the money, its about spreading their magic evil throughout the world. If it was just about money the CEO would just use a stick to wish for his own trillion dollars.
>>221832548Because Male Desire Bad. You will be an eunuch and you will be happy. You will be miserable and the future is female.
>>221839742>are you literally face blind?a bit yeah, I did recognize the redhead correctly at least
>>221839759>Like, omg, it was, like, SO uncomfortable to watch, I had to, like, pause it-Do women even listen to themselves
>>221832697dude will join Nerdrotic grifters in a year. his transformation is certain
>>221832697He’s not wrong. Women fantasize about fucking hot serial killers and hot rapists all the fucking time. Women will call a 22yo dating an 18yo a pedophile when they read books about 1,000yo vampire seducing a 16yo high school girl.
>>221839865why does a mask making company turn a bunch of kids into rot and bugs and shit?
>>221839865
>>221832597That part's pretty shitty by him though. It's like if you find out the prostitute is being human trafficked and you're like>that's terrible.>fortunately, I am a man of moral fortitude>I'll just have her give me head instead of fucking herOnce you know, if you wanna be a good dude, stuff like that is supposed to be off the table.
>>221832697he was hiding power level for long timebut>japan obsessed to point moving there>anime figures collecting>chip on shoulder from: no one wanted me in school>draws chibi and god knows what elsehe is like textbook 4channer
>>221839965Its almost like fantasy and reality are different things
>>221840144now you want to talk about irony
>>221840144Can you stop pretending not to understand the point?
>>221839965I fantasize about being killed by hot murderous women
>>221840211Your point relies on fantady and reality being the same thing. That is why your point is retarded. Are you still not following?
>>221840221It sounds like a woman must love you if shes willing to kill you out of jealousy of you fucking other women, but its just a control thing and Jodi got a new boyfriend immediately after the murder.
>>221840252do you like lolicon or something dude? why the big firewall between what you fantasize about and what you do
>>221840314>Why the big firewall between apples and oranges? Because they are different things. If your argument relies on the assumption that apples and oranges are the same thing, then its a retarded argument.
>>221839965>Women will call a 22yo dating an 18yo a pedophile but when they were 18 they all slept with guys in their 20s and they still remember it fondlyFTFY
>>221840435i dont understand are thoughts not real?
>>221833760>Bella Throne, but not mental
>>221840473Yes, thoughts are real. Actions are also real. They are two real, and distinct things. That why you have the concept of mens rea and actus rea. If youre actually confused about this then I feel kind of bad. Im sorry I called you retarded.
>>221840640im not even that guy
>>221839851>I didn't imply that she was lying>"and other women will instantly side with the woman who *admitted to physically abusing her bf*"Abusing her bf would suggest unprovoked violence; she suggests that her actions were in self-defence. You're suggesting they weren't; hence, you're implying she's lying about the initial abuse.>Especially when this “abuse” magically went away the moment she abused him.It wouldn't be magic, it would suggest that demonstrable capacity for self-defence had a deterrent effect on the physical abuse.I will concede that it was unfair of me to make assumptions about your prior personal history with women.
>>221832548Because women don't want an insecure, lonely guy. They want to remove bears autonomy and have him act like the guy they want him to rather than growing and learning why what he wants has always been in front of him all along
>>221840887not him but it's hard to believe that a guy tried to overwhelm her physically and she managed not only to defend herself but even to give him a good beating in retort
>>221832597That's the exact moment he becomes irredeemable. He has irrefutable proof that the wish worked and Nikki is trapped in her body and experiencing some form of torture for her existential state. He does at least try to cancel the wish, eventually, but is given instructions on how to fix it (kill himself). Remember also that the helpline guy knew Nikki's name without Bear having said it previously during the call. If he had any chance at redemption he would have at least gone straight back to the store and tried getting someone else to reverse his wish using their own willow, but he waited until Sara was dead to even try that.
>>221841277It's not that hard to believe if the abuse was specifically about a defenceless target who just sits there and takes it rather than an unbounded expression of anger. A lot of bullies have a low tolerance for pain.
>>221832725I just wanted to discuss the movie but it's all so tiresome. I hope there are robots to take care of me in the nursing home. You gen Z kids get fucked.
I like how Bear’s best friend only cared about the billion dollars and not the fact that Bear was telling the truth about Nikki being possessed by a split personality.Men only care about sex AND money.
>>221832597I mean yeah?He just wanted to fuck without Nikki sperging out.You wouldn't do that if you were a good person.
>>221841042I forget, when did Nikki say this?
watch obsession with the Benny Hill music on
>>221839274>I don’t understand why people would pick the attractive girl over the fat one
>>221832548His only mistake was not nuggetifying the girl and keeping her locked in his sex dungeon 24/7.
>>221841962False Jewish standard designed to reduce white fertility
>>221842052Your self imposed inceldom reduces white fertility too.
>>221832548The OWW is a plot device to create a situation where something completely harmless; being a single man who wants a female partner; becomes retardedly dangerous.
>>221841288>waited until Sara was deadAre you retarded? Sara only died like 2 hours after that phone call. What did you want him to do, break into a closed store like a nigger?
>>221842154To be fair if it's self-imposed it's not really *in*celdom by definition, is it?
>>221842318There are things you could do to get out of the situation, but for whatever reason, won’t.
>>221832998>>221833043They're not unreasonable points, the part that's unreasonable is they take it so fucking seriously and apply it to a real world context and not just take it as a fucking low budget horror movie.It's like if somebody has a bad dream and then holds somebody accountable for the bad dream and force you to apologise for dream-you's behaviour.That's the part that's fucking insane. And also people seem to just be fluent in hyperbole about everything they talk about. It's fucking tiring. It's just a fucking movie
>>221842354yeah I could go become a monk but I'm not that extreme
>>221842318People just use the word "incel" for guy they don't like. Everybody seem to have forgotten the involuntary bit
>>221833043>>221833059>>221833091>>221837668Red herring movie that whore animals will hide behind to distract from their various rape fetishes and the fact they can only pair bond if they're treated like an object by a higher status zaddy figure
>>221842501Incels are all technically volcels, but for all intents and purposes they’re incels since they will never do anything to get out of their situation.
>>221842634But that's where the distinction should be different, if you will never do anything to get out of it then you're voluntarily living that way. It's the exact opposite of involuntary
>>221832697Meyers is based now?
Is there a term for when incel rhetoric starts to sound indistinguishably Indian?
>>221842749indians aren't incels, they just rape
>>221842769Indians are actually pretty fucking awful at rape anon. A single white woman will beat up a single Indian within an inch of their life. Indians are like jelly and it’s only when they swarm like flies do they become a threat to women.Arabs and Africans on the other hand…
>>221839865I assume it's sort of like those old b-movies where a mysterious trinkets shop would pop up overnight and sell supernatural artifacts from an old guy that's obviously a demon or something. It's a charm that nobody stocks, it just "appears" in shops at the right time.
>>221841627This honestly. His friend didn’t care about Nikki at all. Bear clearly did. Bear tried to cancel the wish. His friend just wished for a billion dollars and gloated about it. Why do women think Bear is the worst here?
>>221843441shy guys give them the ICK
>>221843441Yeah Nikki was having sex with the objectively worse individual. Kind of funny how that’s usually the case too. >>221843673Isn’t it weird how women always gravitate towards bad people? They don’t actually want a good guy, they always go for “nice guys”(bad guys).
>>221832548>mfw people rejected Mandalorian kino for a feminist revenge porn
>>221834325Seems to be it obviously was rape but women, being hysterical retards, make it annoying by acting like the guy was consciously, evilly, malicious raping her rather than sleewalking into a situation he is oblivious to the fact he created. Then when you correct them for being hysterical over Bear that early on they get angry and scream about red flags.
Lol, lmao even
>>221843979One need not intend harm to cause it
>>221844993Yes. So Bear is not a rapist because it was accidental
>>221845106That is the opposite of what Prince Baelor said
>>221832548I really feel like people are reading too deeply into what was a solid-mid horror flick. I know the urge but it wouldn’t be such a big deal if you let it go.
The director said the wish is “neutral” but that’s fucking bullshit.
>>221841863>I'm retardedWe know. For everyone else though, op asked about the meta narrative of bear being a villain. He is a tragedy because he is everything women hate, lonely, insecure, emotionally immature and a loser that wants to be chosen. The people slamming bear would rather remove his autonomy and have him be what he isn't instead of learning anything.They are literally npc's.
>>221845905Women would rather Bear kill himself, or kill Nikki, than put in the effort to break or alter the wish. They would rather they just die. They also don’t consider that Bear’s friend didn’t give a shit about Nikki when he saw the wish work; he was positively beaming about the billions of dollars, not at all concerned about the well-being of his friends, which would be any decent person’s first thought. Bear actually cared to some degree. He put up with all of her gross and disturbing shit. A lot of other people would have sent her to an insane asylum. Again, swap the sexes and see what happens.
Ok.
>>221846057I don't think women understand how hurtful it would be to Bear when she begged to be killed.
>>221846463Probably less hurtful than not being in control of your body and literally screaming in agony
>>221832998why are redditors so obsessed with consent when they can't even get it from an onionlent bottlecap?
>>2218329983rd world women live like this all the time, white women need to get it through their numbskulls how well and safe they have it, and what was so horrifying and trumatic about the idea of being in a relationship with Bear
>>221833059>What exactly are you angry about?The part when they say he's evil for enthralling her with magics even tho he didnt even know magics existed
I haven't watched this but the chick deserved it and the guy is innocent. I know this because women say otherwise.
>>221846834The only choice he had if he truly cared about her, as soon as he found out it was real, was to kill himself immediately. That's what women believe.
>>221832548The film is clearly meant to be a black comedy that simultaneously satirizes both simps with oneitis who pursue relationships they have no shot in as well as the opposite end of obsessive and controlling girlfriends that attempt to browbeat and force every man they get with into submission. I don't really get how it became seen as this one-sided critique of incels, obviously like 90% of the best humor in the movie is when she does stereotypical controlling/needy gf shit. Biggest laugh in my theater is when he tells her he's going to guys night and she can't come and she spergs out in the bathroom. If you listen to the zoomer director talk he clearly was just doing pretty surface level shit and wasn't trying to do some kind of gender war commentary, but I think the fact that so much of the humor came from exaggerating the psycho gf trope triggered a lot of women into trying to flip the script.
>>221847081women have to be told what they're going to believe and what standards they're going to up hold, women are the most susceptible to insidious propaganda. Many efforts of subversions on western christian nations going through the cold war up until now have had some degrees of success but turbo feminism has been the most successful of them all.
