>you don't think you exploit people by bringing them on the show and spreading their problems to whole world. you think that's helping them?It's been 20 years and Dr. Philcels have no response to this.
>>221836477It's helpful to people watching at home who might deal with similar issues and see possible ways to resolve it. Low IQ as expected from Mr Bumfight
so whatchu sayin?
>>221836555>It's helpful to people watching at home who might deal with similar issues and see possible ways to resolve it.The show did more to normalize these behaviors than to resolve them. It's sensationalism
>>221836555How does this help anyone?
>>221836477Dr. Phil doesn’t air live, anon. Talk shows are all pre-taped and edited for broadcast.
>>221836477>kicks him off the show because he doesn't want to give him exposure>still airs the episodeWhat did Dr. Phil mean by this?
>>221836737helps mom if he offs himself
I really don't understand all the therapy mumbo jumbo. Talking about my problems isn't going to just make them go away.
>>221836477Brutal
>>221836812 Cognitive therapy and brainwashing use the same techniques. You are essentially letting someone brainwash you so you act less crazy.But the reality of modern therapy is, they want to get you on pills as fast as they can justify it. For money.
>>221836812>work a dead end job>try to apply to better jobs but get constant rejection>even if i get a better job i wouldn't be able to afford a place of my ownHow is therapy supposed to fix these issues? If I could genuinely work hard and get a fair return I wouldn't complain and would be doing well for myself.
>>221836737Cautionary taleMakes you think of ways to ensure your own son doesn't end up that way
>>221836870>go to addiction group therapy thing>everyone talks about their problems and then leaves>"isn't there some kind of like curriculum or something to go through?">$100 addiction recovery "kit"Every time
Dr Phil didn't give money and drugs to homeless people to beat each other up
>>221836555This>>221836686Really? It wasn't the bumfights guy normalizing abuse of the homeless? Somehow it was Dr Phil for roasting this guy? And yes I agree the dude showing up in a suit and Dr. Phil hair is hilarious. But if your argument is normalization of bad behaviors and sensationalism, you should be railing against the bum fights guy.
at least dr. phil makes a pretense of acknowledging the intrinsic human dignity of the deplorables he exploits
>>221836985They're both exploiting losers who didn't win the life lottery. That was the only point the homeless people battle guy was trying to make. He knows he's a piece of shit for exploiting the homeless for money, Dr Phil doesn't acknowledge that he exploits people down on their luck for money too.
>>221837050Dr. Phil's exploitation didn't involve people mauling each other for pocket change. By virtue of this, he was the better man.
>>221836477None of Dr. Phil's guests physically assault one one another. Phil actually helps people and participates in charities. The Bum Fights fag is just a selfish asshole. Only selfish assholes think this meme makes sense.
>>221836920>family doesn't want to support its member but he's the problem
>>221837096>I'm bad but not as bad as youI think this is a dangerous way of thinking
>>221836737At least the bum fight is over in a few minutes and they get paid
>>221837189it's dangerous only if you're a grifter like the bum fights guy>WE ARE THE SAME YOU AND I, PHIL
>>221837101I never said that. Essentially what I said is it makes me want to be a better parent than his mom was
>>221836477>bringing them on the showthe guests applied to be on the show; he didn't kidnap them.
>>221836477Saw this as a teenager and thought he was just making fun of Phil's look, wasn't until my 30's I finally understood he was making a point about Phil exploiting hard up people exactly like he does with Bum Fights.
>>221836477That bald fraud will never recover. He can't retire because he knows this will ever increasingly overshadow his career when he's no longer on TV.
>>221837096The bum fights guy didn't really do anything wrong. At worst, he gave modern man a chance to relive what their lives could've been if they weren't forced to conform by the hell that is "society", which is arguably a far more noble goal than "exploiting retards for views while pretending to help them".
>>221836555>It's helpful to people watching at homeBut it's not about the people at home. It's supposed to be about the person getting therapy. Being paraded on stage as entertainment and then going home where strangers know your business, and have an opinion about it, can't he be good for them.
>>221837514They always give the guests some expensive shit for treatment for being on the show. That's probably why so many people applied to be on. They consciously make the choice to reveal some of their vulnerabilities in exchange for things they couldn't otherwise afford. What's unfair about that?
I've been to AA type things. There's a big rule about not telling everyone outside the room about all the shit someone else said. Using therapy as entertainment is exploitative
>>221837577>There's a big rule about not telling everyone outside the room about all the shit someone else said.Good thing people came on the show to talk about themselves.> Using therapy as entertainment is exploitativeOf the viewer maybe, since they're the ones being advertised to. Surely you didn't mean the guest who applied to be on the show because they wanted to be on TV. That wouldn't be very smart
>>221837468lmao that's some grade A copingI bet when you see two blacks fighting you complain about them chimping out
>>221837670I imagine it's not the struggling one who applies, but the next of kin, and the struggling one is guilt tripped into agreeing
>>221837573I'm not calling it unfair, they are adults that agreed to go on, I'm just calling it what it is. It's no different from Jenny Jones, Ricky Lake or even Springer.If you have bums fight each other for a hot sandwich in fount of a paying crowd, that is a deal they agreed to, but don't pat yourself on the back for feeding the homeless afterwards.
>>221837779Most of them weren't struggling at all. They just wanted to be on TV. >>221837810>If you have bums fight each other for a hot sandwich in fount of a paying crowd, that is a deal they agreed toThe difference is the bums were not legally capable of giving consent to self harming acts due to their mental state and vulnerability, which why several bums got nice payouts from the producers. None of the Dr. Phil show guests had anything close to the same grounds.
>>221837439>That bald fraud will never recover.Yeap. That Bum Fights faggot has done absolutely nothing since. Phil continues work helping others in need. Phil always wins.
>>221837779Most likely. I would never have gone to any therapy or gay meetings if people didn't sign me up for it and manipulate me into going. It's just not for everyone. Listening to other people's problems just makes me feel worse.
>>221836812Letting stuff out helps aleviate stress and anxiety. Dont need a therapist though, just friends or family.CBT can help you feel better about living a shit life. Wont actually mske your life better but you might not be as depressed about it. Which is the first step in improving your shit life
>>221837020I think the idea is bum fights guy doesnt clwim to be anything more thwb exploitative entertainment
>>221836910Its better to not own and invest in stock.
>>221836477Both of them are scumbags
>>221837989>not legally capable of giving consent to self harming acts due to their mental state and vulnerabilityI'm talking about intention not legality. You mentioned grand compensation as justification for a freak show. The point is, it doesn't change what you are doing and why you are doing it.
>>221837989>>221839041I'll even give you an example. I know you have seen that clip of the Dad seeing his son as a cross dresser for the first time on Dr Phil. Why wasn't he prepared ahead of time? Because they wanted his reaction on camera.Why do you think Maury Polvich did paternity tests all the time? Is he doing a public service to help children find their fathers? Hell no, but it may be an occasional side effect.
>>221836477There are no philcels.
>>221836737I want him to start living as a gay woman.
>>221839249Umm...>>221836555
>>221836477I don't like this point coming from someone who is actually putridly, vilely pure evil in the most banal and grubby way.No its not superior to be that bad but be aware of it versus Doctor Phil being not even nearly as bad but oblivious to it. He's pond scum. This is the type of person who will without a second thought steal from you if you invite them to your home. Just nothing to them.
>>221836737Honestly I wasnt expecting him to have jobs. Like what are we to assume he could just get a good job tommorow and doesn't?
>>221836812Correct.Purchase a motorcycle.
>>221836737>How does this help anyone?How does what help? Where's the problem here?
>>221836737I'm like that except I pay for half the bills and pay and cook my own foodSometimes my mom will say "I made some extra if you want to eat with me" and I dine with her, otherwise I'm pretty much on my own even if we live in the same houseI think I'm closer to a normal person than I am closer to jeff, but I know I don't live a normal life, I hate my life and I'll never be able to have children at this point
>>221842308Similiar situation except for>I'll never be able to have children at this pointHow old are you?
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>>221836477What was bum fights about? Paying bums to fight each other? Why is that bad? Everyone needs money to survive, is begging for money on the street corner a more worthwhile way of living day to day than engaging in mutual combat with another bum for money?
>>221839973I'm gonna break my son's cock.
>>221842457You just made me think of that and I don't plan on giving up until 40. Why give up on children? Is it because of the women?
>>221836555If for no other reason than him and his show were responsible for this bitch having any kind of career beyond food service or OF ( OH WAIT! ) then he's done irreparable damage to society far greater than any help ha may have given.
>>221842574>Meet your daughter
>>221836737This was the episode that changed my life. I tailored my entire life after this dude. He's both my role model and my savior.
>>221842867>Oh this helps, this helps me sooo much Dr. Phil...
>>221842457Not too late ďesu, it's only over if you want it to be
>>221836555Bumfights taught people how to fight. Probably even saved many lives
>>221836737>woman coasts off friends and family around her so she never has to actually work or support herself :)>man coasts off friends and family around him so he never has to actually work or support himself :(
>>221842803I wonder if he feels any responsibility for getting her famous. I think she encouraged a lot of young girls to act like whores and start OFs. Also she was apparently molested by her body guard , although I don't believe her. Pretty sure she was just a whore who liked to fuck older men.
>>221843626>I think she encouraged a lot of young girls to act like whores and start OFs.Her and the Kardashians.
>>221842478it's bad because it makes normies realize that all of life is a bumfight
>>221844207Jerry Springer was arguably worse than bum fights.
>>221837989>I'm talking about intention not legalityLegality is still important to the discussion. >You mentioned grand compensation as justification for a freak show.Because Dr. Phil showing people with trainwreck lives on TV is nowhere near the same thing as paying mentally ill homeless people to injure each other and themselves as entertainment. These are not comparable so applying the same standards will never work. >>221839216>>221842867>>221843052Yes, talk shows are entertainment. Still not the same though
>>221836477>I pay homeless people to kill eachother with hammers, yet you make teen moms embarass themselves on TV. We're not as different as you'd like to believe "doctor" PhilEven if Phil is a piece of shit, there's levels to it
>>221836920>Implying the 40yo loser mom who watches the show is able to connect the dots that she fucked up her own son 20 years ago>Implying the 20yo foid with a kid on the way can connect the dots on how the guy came to be like that when nobody in the show makes themselves responsible for it.
>>221843052>if only you knew how trooned things are
>>221836555Do you really think people who regularly watch daytime TV possess that level of introspection?
>>221846021>>221846889Can't say they weren't warned.
>>221836555>deal with similar issues>Fear of pickles>CashmeoutsydeMany such cases>>221847063Theyre gunna
>>221842803>she used her time to promote herself>this alone erases the years of Dr. Phil helping peopleYou are so fucking mad and its because you support some loser who coerced homeless people into fighting each other. Hilarious.
>>221844830I am not comparing the severity of what is being done. I am saying that it is a valid criticism that Dr Phil farms content from those who look to him for help even if the exposure is detrimental to their progress. It is not to help the people watching at home, it is to keep them watching.Maury Povich is a crystal clear example. Free paternity tests help people but that is not why the show ending up revolving around them.
>>221847196>helping peopleYou know I know gen a and whatever young faggos don't have any actual context for virtually anything but that's not what he ever did.
