Can I real honest nuanced review of the odyssey from /tv/ based on normal movie review metrics like cinematography, plot, pacing, music score, choreography, dialogue etc. instead of just of talking about political parties?
No.
>>221840869In terms of pure directing it's well done except for the fight scenes which can't escape the Nolan schizo editing and lazy choreography.The biggest weakness is Nolan's inability to stop himself from trying to make everything feel super serious. He ties the story into the Bronze Age collapse in a manner that makes no sense, and is invariably the product of a late-night wikipedia binge. He probably felt that just adapting an ancient myth straight wasn't worth his prestige as a director, so he basically copied his "I'm so guilty about this amazing invention I created that won a long-war instantly" guilt-brooding plot from Oppenheimer.
You've seen lots of them. You're just pretending you haven't because you're a liar.
I had a blast, Christopher Nolan is breaking new ground as a filmmaker and delivered one of this years best cinematic experiences
>>221841000>He ties the story into the Bronze Age collapse in a manner that makes no senseHow does the movie imply this? Are they pretending that singed 7 times over ruins of Wilusa was a giant critical trade hub and that this led to the collapse? Modern archeologists can not with 100% certainty attach Troy to being part of Hittite kingdom. What a fucking fanfic.
>>221840869Overall, the film works really well. It sets up a clear theme at the beginning, explores it throughout the story, and brings it home at the end.The filmmaking also does a great job of putting you right in the middle of the action, using the whole put you right in the horse method of filmmaking he goes for. It does not always lead to beautiful or polished-looking shots, but scenes like the siege of Troy, the Cyclops’ cave, Scylla, make you feel like you are actually there.Some people have criticized the choppy editing and the lack of pretty cinematography, but I think that misses what the film is trying to do. It is less interested in giving you beautiful images and more interested in making the journey feel real. As an adventure movie, that works extremely well. Its biggest strength is that you feel like you are part of the expedition from beginning to end.The film is held back a little by some overly Hollywood-style acting, but overall, it is a very good movie.
>>221841199Thanks grok. Now order estrogen pills to the guy who is inputting the task.
>>221841261Thanks, I spoke into a mic and had ChatGPT proofread it. You're still a faggot.
It's literally a 10/10 movie from start to finish. The action scenes are so dense it's hard to encapsulate how truly awesome they are. The acting is superb with everyone at the top of their game, Damon in particular really sells his role especially in the action scenes. Page has a strong screen presence and I suspect this role will be reviving his career (probably in action films). The costumes literally look like something out of greek mythology.The dialog is like classical poetry. I literally cried when the movie ended.
>>221841278I'm not the one having an estrogen package being order to his house. It will make you FEEL like you are actually shilling for Odyssey but unironically.
>>221841278That is even more embarrassing than just using ChatGPT
>>221841336You seem to enjoy bitching so here is my unchatgpt'ed version for you to rip apartOverall, the film works extremely well. It has a very coherent theme that is established at the beginning, heavily explored throughout, and punctuated at the very end. The whole put-you-right-in-the-horse method of filmmaking is excellent. It doesn't really lead to pretty shots, but the experience of watching the siege of Troy, the Cyclops cave, Scylla, and the boat sequences always makes you feel like you're right there in the action.Some people are criticizing the choppy editing and the lack of pretty cinematography as a weak point, but they're not really watching the movie as an experience. As an experience, it feels like a very good adventure movie. Its strong point is the fact that you pretty much feel like you're on this expedition the whole time. It feels like it's actually happening. It is held back by some Hollywood-ized acting, but overall, it's pretty good.
>>221841332Too fat.
>>221841354Grok, tell your subscription pay piggy to kill himself right now so that he can FEEL the experience of becoming a tranny.
>>221841391But I told you it was ChatGPT.
>>221841000I think he added the bronze age tie in because the odyessy was written hundreds of years later but still existed as a oral story so if you take the year the odyessy was written + the oral history timeline it existed it ordinates really close(same) to the period of the bronze age collapse. Plus Nolan hates immigrants and that's really just what the Sea People are. Counter clockwise immigration if you look at the supposed paths they took.
>>221841114It's more that the way the Greeks beat the Trojans was by destroying the bonds and rules that held civilisation together, leading to an age of piracy, betrayal, and ignorance.It's kind of interesting but is just a retread of the themes of Oppenheimer.If the film had a fault, I think its that they tried to make big O a good boy that dint do nuffin. They took away some of his sharper edges, and didn't focus on how his pride was what damned him. Instead he has to learn to live with his guilt before he is worthy of going home.
>>221841411Sorry, I'm not as well versed in the AI subscription cinematic universe as you are. Is calling you a Grok pay piggy equivalent of misgendering you?
>>221840869no. if this movie fails, it means liberalism failed. you MUST watch it and give it a thumbs up.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg&ra=m
>>221841000>The biggest weakness is Nolan's inability to stop himself from trying to make everything feel super serious. He ties the story into the Bronze Age collapse in a manner that makes no sense, and is invariably the product of a late-night wikipedia binge.I mean the trojan war has been discussed in the context of the bronze age collapse so it’s not a totally fringe theory. I think the guilt and PTSD angle was more of a Nolan creative liberty.
>called the odyssey>constantly cutting around timelines so the audience never gets the chance to experience the weight of time passingliterally brainlet tier stupid editing choices throughout. could be a good linear story, the trojan horse bit they showed before avatar was awesome in a vacuum, but the rest of the movie feels choppy, hammy and stupid. Most of the acting sucks because Nolan is better at action setpieces than character direction but the action sucks too.>Bernthalthe goat shows up and literally ruins the movie because of how good he's playing his character compared to everyone else. Cyclops looked like a morphsuit. 3/10
>>221841534Thats how the original story is structured. The "Odyssey" partss of the Odyssey are liike chapters 9-12 out of 24
>>221841278Next time tell it to wtite in 4chinner style
>>221841534>playing his characterhe's just playing the same guy that he always playshe's got no range
>>221840869>metrics like cinematography, plot, pacing, music score, choreography, dialogue etc.they were all shit and that's what 90% of the threads are about so stop whining like a faggot
>>221841450>It's more that the way the Greeks beat the Trojans was by destroying the bonds and rules that held civilisation together, leading to an age of piracy, betrayal, and ignorance.Holy fucking retardation. Is Nolan aware that Middle Assyria is alive and well in that period of time and has been raping everything around them and will in fact survive the collapse precisely because they never relied on "bonds" and "rules." But I guess it's not a "western" civilization so it doesn't count.Shit adaptation. Shit take on history. Only Nolan.
>>221841551but filmic epics are supposed to translate the experiential weight of reading a long ass book about many years of war, into a movie experience that feels like that. When you watch The 10 Commandments it feels like many years have passed over the course of a very long film. Here, modern editing gives no scenes any time to breathe, let alone the whole story, it just hammers home the same theme of guilt and responsibility over and over like Oppenheimer did.
>>221841668much like the dune movie it exists for people who already know and like the story to nod along to familiar beats and feel like they watched "a good movie" without actually engaging with any critical thinking part of their brain
>>221841668I don't know why anyone expected anything else. This nigger has been editing his 3 hour long movies like movie trailers with every scene posturing to be the most important one in the narrative, drowning everything in score to compensate.
>>221841668That's actually a pretty fair and interesting criticism. I do not have a good counter for it right now. I will think about it.You're right, because Furiosa does a time jump pretty well. And this definitely just kind of feels like some patient in a hospital having a therapy session where he recalls a lot of stuff.
>>221841053>>221841199>>221841332Nolanoids.
>>221840869The aspect ratio in a normal theater is fucked and you can tell the movie is super cropped. I don't care about screen size, but unfortunately you should see it even in liemax to get the proper aspect ratio. I think that sucks, but "it is what it is."Overall I'm pretty mid on Nolan, but this was the first movie of his I liked since Dunkirk. I like that the world he's creating in this movie is very tactile and dangerous, you feel how vulnerable these soldiers are on their voyage home. There's great big bombastic visual moments, and then just some whatever bullshit spackled in between.By no means is it a perfect film, but I like stories about haggard old men trying to live with regret and shame. Obviously that's not everyone's cup of tea, but that works for me. I also think Nolan understands more than most film makers the dual revulsion and fascination with war. He has a weird reverence for soldiers and big strong men, but he understands the moral horrors that come with that. So I think he's able to communicate a kind of awe that the little boy inside of every adult man has for soldiers, heroes, dad, whatever, but also never veers into pure power fantasy. Like, what Odysseus basically looks at the camera and tells you "you all look up to me with this Trojan Horse gimmick and how that won the war, but I basically undid the basic rules of civilization with that shit, and now you're all living in the aftermath of that broken trust." So yeah, big LOUD dumb key jangling visuals, horseshit plot structure, dialogue and characterization and a teeeeny tiny moral core. In other words, it's a Christopher Nolan movie.
>every positive review is paragraphs of chatgpt
