>the "vilains" are bad because they give the character exactly what they ask for
>vilains
>>221843957i only saw the first movie but the human man was very definitely the villain in it
>>221843909That's the thing though, the characters that get jumped by them don't really know what they're asking for. They're enthralled by the box. And those on the periphery who didn't even know what others were doing get caught up in it. They're very much villains, they're simply not the primary ones
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>>221843909I can take them
the first movie isn't even about them. I don't know how this became a franchise.
>>221843909>guy asks for ecstasy>they rip his dick offThis is worse than some monkey paw or obsession bullshit
>>221843909Almost as if consent is an amoral concept.
>>221843983you don't need to see the restthe Cenobites work in the first movie because they're a weird unknowable force of natureeverything after that shits on them by trying to explain them
>>221843909>play with box puzzle>this means tortureNo.
>>221845482Wrong, second is the best one
>>221844792>Studio Exec: I need to turn something from this movie into merchandise so I can make more money. That's literally the only reason.
>>221844792According to Joe Bob, there was a plan at one point to make Julia the queen of Hell or something, but the Cenobites were just too fucking cool, and dominated the discussion.
>>221845730I really like 2 until the dick worm scrambles Channard’s brain, and he just becomes a cackling Freddy Krueger who makes doctor puns, and the “fight” with the Cenobites is really lame because they just stand thee and wait for their turn to be killed. It gets kind of dumb after that, and he ends up doing himself in.
>>221843909>desire infinite torture and pain >get cockblocked because you're shit at rubix cube
>>221845272>>they rip his dick offWon't this literally happen when you arrive in Hell for being a Degenerate or to just having Horny thoughts?
>>221846638>days pinfaggots have gone without seething over chaddard: zero
