How do you win against this?
>>221850535Hector really does look like he is flailing around like a retard during the fight, while Achilles attacks are all perfectly planned, executed, and precise.
>>221850535I wouldn't win. I would lose. And that's exactly what HECTOOOOOR!!! did.
I wish adaptations would stop ignoring Diomedes
Been forever since I've seen it but didn't Hector and Achilles meet face to face in a tomb? Why didn't they fight to the death then? It was near the beginning I think.
>>221850535I wouldn’t fight, I’d listen, and that’s what no one did.
Elliot Page's Achilles would defeat him
>>221850535Choreo is stiffly executed by both. Pitt's THIGHS are damn distracting, no way he didn't win by flashing them thighs.
>>221850535Glock 19
>>221850535Instead of stop and admire at 1:01 I would stab him.Or aim for his heel.
>>221850535This fucker jobbed to PARIS lol XD
>>221851078They’d have Aphrodite woop his nowadays
Stab him whenever he does a faggy pose
In the real story, Hector (after initially fleeing in terror) gathers his courage and pride, turns on Achilles and is about to kill him, but Athena (IIRC) intervenes. Cheating cunt.
>>221850979>Hector really does look like he is flailing around like a retard during the fightIt's actually better than the original in which he just runs around the city and gets instantly killed by Achilles spear.Either way shows that while Hector maybe the best human warrior Achilles is the best warrior
>>221850535Why don't good fights scenes like this get made anymore
>>221851110After the first battle on the beach/the temple Achilles and his men have Hektor surrounded and he just tells him to fuck off. Achilles' captain asks him this and he answers "It's to early to kill princes".
>>221851358>but Athena (IIRC) intervenes. Cheating cunt.Pay back for Apollo helping Hector kill Patroclus
>>221851358Including the gods would have made it a very different movie. It's better when Achilles and Hector are just very skilled fighters who are sick of being surrounded by retards.
>>221850979Hector is a great warrior, Achilles is a hero (half divine), a war machine in human form. it's a miracle Hector can hold so long against the Reaper, Achilles. The guy is litterally invincible.Because of bravery, training and effort.Are you fucking retarded ? Of course Hector struggles against Achilles, you mongoloïd.
>>221850535If you wanna take anything away from this it should be that Achilles has absolutely insane cardio.
>>221851110Not enough witnesses from the opposite side, wants it to be a spectacle.
>>221851411Yeah I agree.>>221851399The Gayreeks messed with Apollo first, so they were at war with him as well.
any old fags remember the rumor on CDAN that Pitt killed a bitch he was fucking during the production of this kino? It was discussed here all the time too.
>>221850979Wtf are you talking about? The final fight still holds up well as some of the best swordsplay I've seen in a movie. If achilles wasn't a pay2win faggot Hector would've cleaned up.
>>221851490*In a hollywood movieBefore some autistic retard starts posting entire chinese wuxia films
>Actual earliest story ends with Achilles and Priam mourning their son and dear friend who died pointlessly>Later story has the sad scene of poor Hector saying farewell to his son, only for the Greeks to throw him to the dogs when they take the city (portrayed as an act of monstrous and ultimate cruelty) >Even later additions have Achilles seeing the vision of the life he could have had, noble and happy and dignified surrounded by the children borne to him through Priam's beautiful daughter but he chose hollow glory instead>Greeks wanted to emulate these villains centuries laterDo you think the Dorians didn't have the IQ / media literacy to understand the story the Mycenans sang of?
>>221851486Hollywood is surrounded by corpses, including many children. It's a jewish stronghold. What do you think most actors become drunkards or drug addicts, or commit suicide ?>But, Anon, why nobody talks ?Why indeed ? Maybe they don't want to be one of the corpses.
>>221851568It's almost as if they knew that war (Ares) was horrific but a fact of life and that while it is horrible there is glory in it.
>>221850535Jesus christ why did they think doing a cut every second was a good idea
>>221851078fr, he battled the Gods! pretty sure he knocked Apollo in his divine human form out of the battlefield
>>221851568No, the whole story is a warning:Don't insult the gods, or you will perishDon't commit crimes, or you will face retribution.Don't be an accomplice (Odysseus..) or you will pay and have to redeem yourself.While Troy was defeated, and razed, the acheans(greeks) will pay their crimes. Some will earn glory, but, in the end, their Houses will be destroyed, unless they paid in full (Odysseus).From this war, neither side will earn anything but pain and death.There is no winner, both sides are destroyed.It's a warning.
>>221850535https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saRRU9lRQlE
>>221850535Rape allegation
In the Illiad and Odyssey, only ONE character is right from the beginning to the end, who never compromise. The one against many. The one who will suffer, more than anyone, but will be right.Cassandra.Aeneas is the other good character.
>>221850979There's a fight breakdown of these where a trained fighter points out the choreography isn't really that well composed, both of them leave their bodies very exposed for a lot of it, but Achilles has the excuse of >immortal lolAnyway, it's one of the few major fight scenes where it's actually the 2 lead actors going at it, we have to appreciate what we got.
>>221850535The Chinese figured out how to deal with this problem around the same time.
>>221851761Troy lost lol. Greeks won, they're the badasses. Woo woo
The Marion Zimmer Bradley book is amazing. The Firebrand.
>>221850535You can't win against the wrath of God. Maybe not let your city degenerate so much that the Gods have to intervene.
There's a reason Hector remains a common name while Achilles persists among only the most autistic of Greeks.
>>221852132Troy lost, all greeks died. During or after the war. Go be an edgy 12yo elsewhere.
>>221850535The fight is cool but the scene sucks or isn't as good without Andromache's reactions.
>>221850535i dunno, shoot him the fucken heel with an arrow?
For me? It was Ajax
>>221852346They're magic arrows from Heracles' personal collection being shot from a magic bow. Good luck finding any ankles that can tank that.
>>221850979he's going up against Bronze Age Brock Samson.of course he's going to lose.Now Achilles vs Hercules would be an interesting fight...
>>221850535Use the spear on it's own without the big ass shield for more dexterity/quicker move changes. Jab his exposed legs to shit, let him bleed out.
>>221852346this
>>221850535He was completely outmatched and also wasn't favored by the gods, it also wasn't much of a fight to begin with, Achilles easily kills Hector.
>>221850535I bet Jackie Chan could have taken him, actually both of them, especially if they were chasing after him in the city.
>>221852376na, you don't need magical arrows.Achilles was dipped by his heel in the river styx at birth to gain his invulnerability. his heel is mortal.hence the phrase: "Achilles Heel".Paris kills Achilles by shooting a mundane standard poisoned arrow at this heel (unless you consider poison magical).
>>221852109>Chingpong bathed for a year in water in which he dropped a legendary tiger pénis. It cured his impotence, but he still had a micropenis. He asked the respected elder, Pingpong, how to get inches, but he was not ready yet, for the evil sect of the dark mountain killed his master. He would have to find the legendary bear bladder, turn it into powder and get inches. But Chingpong, master of the Flying Demons sect was preparing his revenge...
>>221852503Now all I can think of is Jackie doing that Superman punch thing Achilles does but with a ladder instead of a spear.
>>221852515It's kinda of a trope at this point; mythologically and today. From Baldur being "invulnerable" to everything but mistletoe (which kills him), to hitting the week spot in bosses in vidya games.Case in point: nothing is truly immortal/invulnerable here, even the gods. There's always a chink in the chain in our physical and metaphysical universe: you're immortal until you die.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWTd1HE34Kg&t=454s
>>221852706>There's always a chink in the chain in our physical and metaphysical universeAnd he always manage a restaurant where you can enjoy bat/panda/tiger/cat/dog meals
>>221852643Yup right before he kicks one of those elaborate vases at him
>>221852774rah rah rah ¦D
>>221852995>rah rahbasedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16y1AkoZkmQ
>>221850535Just use a gun
>>221850535Too many cuts
>>221850535i would shoot him
>>221853111impressive. very nice trips.but have you checked this out:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC9tg8GoEOY
>>221853657nice
>>221853808
>>221853834https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRIfsFefatg<3
>>221851383pacification
WEWUZKWEEENZAN'SHEITTT!!!
>>221854276youtu.be/jZPm7OWabi0
>>221850535Achilles mother was lowkey a goddess so you are fucked regardless
>>221854276What the fuck is that?
>>221854370Our Kween!
>>221854276>>221854276>>221854276IMAGINE THAT AS YOUR ACTUAL QUEEN!!!!!LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
Spears are so fucking cool
>>221850535Order my men to shoot him from the walls and then cut off his retreat with cavalry if he survives.I have no obligation to accept his request for a duel.
>>221850535>How do you win against this?
>>221854645>retard holds his shield up like someone is coming at him for a melee fightwho directed this trash?
>>221854181
>>221854181https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7vBgdULRI0•⁂
You can always tell when actors are pulling their punches on their swings or aiming where their opposing actor isn't, even when it still looks good, but I love the stab Brad throws at 1:06, it's legitimately forceful and directed at Eric's throat and only blocked last second, the prop blade clamoring around the shield from the force of the blow. Kino high-commitment acting from them both
>>221855057<3
>>221855094IIRC Brad fucked up Eric by accident a few times. Roids probably made him a little aggressive.
HECTOOOOOOOOR
>>221856140he fucking wishes
>>221854877not sure if you know this, but shields can block arrows too.
>>221856140>>221856195https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c827DblXHO0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-QPWlaDGQE<3
>>221851222Trips of truth.
hwlll
>>221850535you can't, Achilles literally parries a thrust with his sandals here, he's too op.
>>221851486huh, what gave the rumor traction?
>>221851222pussy
>mudbrick wallsdid they really?
>>221851383Civilisations collapse.
>>221851433>spectacleNah, he wants to demoralize the other side by showing him defeat their number one warrior. He further humiliates them by dragging his carcass across the Mediterranean Beach to his camp grounds.
>>221850535DEX build played right.
>>221851719OPs version is sped up. The actual fight is well edited.
>>221850979Hector was a proto-Christian and Achilles was demonic. Until Jesus Christ created Christianity demons could overcome even people that had Christian themed values. If Hector would have had a copy of The Holy Bible and practiced Christianity, he’d have beaten Achilles.
>>221852184Yeah, Hector is easier to spell out.
I’m a prince. I pretend to accept the challenge and then order every archer on the wall to turn him into a red smear on the sand. Though of course the butterfly effect of this is the siege fails, Rome isn’t founded, and the Punics and Gauls overrun the earth.
>>221858254>christkike babblethreadly reminder the biblical god commands demons. he even sends them to christians and his apostles to torment them. paul begged him to remove demonic oppression in jesus name but he didn't lol. cosmic kike.
>>221858297Your demon possessed
>>221858185...Well, yes, that's why he wanted to create a spectacle of it.
>>221858313you worship the father of satan
>>221854276I kind of think someone ran this pic through an AI to make her uglier, but, I’m also not certain of this, which is pretty damning for how ugly she is on her own.
>>221851358Hector was never close to killing Achilles in the Iliad.>Hector runs around Troy three times because he's understandably scared of Achilles>All the Trojans and allies decide to retreat into Troy>All except one, Hector's cousin and good friend>Seeing his cousin there by his side, Hector sums up the courage to face Achilles and fight him (Hector knows he will most certainly die here, but believes it is better to fight and die than to retreat and be a coward in front of his countrymen)>Hector throws a spear and misses>Hector looks to his cousin to hand him another spear to throw>His cousin is nowhere to be seen>It was Athena the whole time, disguised as Hector's cousin in order to get Hector to stay put and fight and lose>Hector realizes he has been played a fool and accepts his fate, but still goes out swinging>Hector is wearing Achilles' armor (which was on Patroclus, who Hector stripped when he killed him)>Achilles is aware of his own armors vulnerabilities>Using this knowledge he knows where to plant his spear and impales Hector in the neck, killing him
>>221851222Based hoodbro.
what happened to Eric Bana? The man could have become bigger than Pitt.
>>221850535Hector gets killed in a single blow in the Iliad. Also he gets BTFO by Ajax twice before that.The choreography here is cool, I like it, but the original scene in the poem was pure kino, and I wish they'd gone with that, even though it would mean they'd need to show the gods.>Achilles is mercilessly chasing and killing escaping Trojans>Apollo himself takes a form of a Trojan hero (don't remember who, one of Priam's sons I think) and escapes trying to lure Achilles away while the rest of the Trojans flee to the city>Hector stays behind before the gate to Troy ready to protect the fleeing and to face Achilles>Achilles realizes he's been fooled by Apollo and turns back to go to the gate>when Hector sees him approaching he falters and starts running away>Achilles chases Hector around the city wall three times>on the fourth lap, Athena takes the form of Hector's brother, appears next to him and tells him they should both stop and fight Achilles together>he falls for it, both him and Achilles throw their spears at each other>Hector dodges, Achilles blocks unharmed>Athena picks up Achilles' spear and hands it back to him>Hector turns towards his "brother" asking him to pass him another spear>sees nobody there>realizes that he's been deceived by the gods, and that's he's going to die there>they both clash for the last time, and Achilles stabs Hector in the neckI think especially that moment of realization from Hector was amazing, and would have made for pure kino on the big screen as well. Just him turning towards nobody and his face dropping in realization.
>>221850535Hector more like what the hector am I supposed to do lol
>>221850535>How do you win against this?Aim for the heel. Duh.Guaranteed critical hit.
None of them are actually using their shields.
>>221851855kino kino kino
>>221852515All this trouble because she didn't flip Achilles and dip his feet in. What a lazy cunt.
>>221861101???Just because they don't use their shields in the way you anticipate them to, doesn't mean they aren't using their shields.
>>221850535I love how Hector is the only one to have even scratched his armor. That followup scene with Achilles sitting and just staring at it is top notch.
>>221852099I don't need an expert to tell me holding your shield above your head like a sun shade isn't a valid technique. But it looks cool and communicates that Achilles is more skilled and has the upper hand in the fight, which is more important.
>>221859604No idea, but he’s absolute kino every time he’s on screen.
>>221850535by using the jews newest bioweapon
>>221850535Don't fight while facing the sun.
>>221850535Is Hector retarded? Did he not read the book? You're supposed to hit his heel. I would've done that and simply won.
>>221850535be a pretty boi with a juicy boipucci, achilles couldn't resist that the faggot
>>221862416I don't think Achilles was one to advertise such a vulnerability, anon.
>>221862475Well no, it was Homer
>>221851358>BAH GAWD ATHENA WITH THE BRONZE CHAIR>THE REFEREE DIDN'T SEE IT
>>221862416it wasn't called Achilles heel back then
>>221851367The original makes it more of a tragedy because Hector was totally outmatched from the start, it's going for something very different.
>>221851358Hector was a giant bitch who needed Apollo and a Trojan soldier to beat Patroclus lmao
>>221850979Well he’s technically going against a DemiGod I think in the lore
>>221850535Balance strength training with cardio and kill your opponent when they're exhausted.
>>221850535allow the archers to shoot him
