this is a thread for people who actually watched the odyssey to discuss it.
is was shit
ive seen the entire movie in silent webms on here, i give it a 6/10
>>221854208Good morning Sir.
Alright, you first.
Schizophrenic editing. Laughable action scenes. Bland acting. The most generic script imaginable.
I'm surprised that /tv/ isn't shitposting about the end credits music yet
WEWUZKWEEENZAN'SHEITTT!!!
>>221854396youtu.be/jZPm7OWabi0
I'm disappointed they never show Odysseus' hubris, which was his major character trait in the poem. The Odyssey is about Odysseus learning to be humble before the gods, and this isn't reflected in the movie at all. Removing the scene where he taunts the Cyclops is particularly disappointing.
>>221854183It feels lik an 8/10 that should have been an 10/10 but the dialogue and cast just held it down.This movie has convinced me that the decline of movie stars is actually a good thing because i'm tired of shitty Hollywood actors always getting important roles because they're things
>>221854396menelaus being played by jon bernthal affected my immersion more than her>lemme tell ya sumthin telemachus
>>221854429>Removing the scene where he taunts the Cyclops is particularly disappointing.No one said he couldn't make the nobody line fit, but I just think that's bullshit
>>221854465Casting celebrities whose fame exceeds their acting ability is always going to be a distraction. Like, you never feel like any of the major characters. Our characters, it always feels like oh, that's tom holland oh, that's anne.Hathaway oh that's matt damon.
The star-studded cast did this no favors. Damon was the only one that I would've kept; everybody else should've been a no-name actor. Hathaway looked the part but her acting was bad, Pattinson's acting was ok but still too recognizable. Tom Holland looked ridiculous and took me out of every scene. I enjoyed the Circe scene. The cyclops and the sacking of Troy were decent too.It was overall better than I expected based on the webums.
>>221854479Even if they don't do the "I am no one" part it still would have been cool to see Odysseus taunting the Cyclops as it throws boulders at him. The Odysseus in the first half of the movie should have been a maniac who laughs in the face of danger, but as the movie goes on he becomes worn and exhausted until he decides to go home and live a quiet life. That's how it happened in the poem. Removing that characterization turns him into a generic stoic action guy.
>>221854583true
>>221854396What the fuck is that?
>Thinking you can have an actual discussion about this movie while chuds are going through their biggest meltdown ever
>>221854548>It was overall better than I expected based on the webums.A lot of the webms are of the fight with the armored giants and the fight with the suitors, which are definitely the worst parts of the movie. Nolan seems to struggle with fight scenes in this movie.
>>221854548>>221854500Have to agreeNolan uses big name actors like I use paper towel to wipe my ass. He doesn't even give them time to act and the way his movies are edited it feels like the actors themselves are being rushed along constantly, its very uncomfy. Only personalities that match that pace like McConaughey do well.
>>221854396>>221854396>>221854396IMAGINE THAT AS YOUR ACTUAL QUEEN!!!!!LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
It wasn't that bad
>>221854583Yeah, it's it's too bad.Nolan's whole "he feels guilt over troy shit" pretty much makes him have to be a sad sullen, bastard, the whole movieOne part that stood out to me was when Odysseus ties himself to the mast during the Sirens scene. It felt out of character because, up to that point, the story hadn’t really established him as especially arrogant, prideful or fun really lol
>>221854620kys fag
>>221854183i haven't seen it but my truth is that it sucks
>>221854183It was a stinker. Basically a three hour trailer, terrible sound, retard Matt Damon playing the most clever man in the world, and Circe and Calypso, who are supposed to be incredibly beautiful and desirable, are 50 year old walled hags.
earlier this year I watched an adaptation of hamlet except it's about Indians in England and they were all speaking Shakespearean English, practically reciting the original script word for word. Personally I prefer more modern dialogue and if that makes me a retard I'm ok with it.
>>221854183>this is a thread for people who actually watched the odyssey to discuss it.I mean it has matt damon in the lead that's like an automatic -3.
>>221854618Our Kween!
>>221854710It's funny because they were hyping it up as an Oscar worthy role before it came out. And when I came out of it I was like, yeah, he's definitely not getting an Oscar for that.
>>221854700I think it was a lose-lose situation with the cast Nolan chose. It would have been weird to see Jason Bourne and Spider-Man talking Lattimore's dialogue.
>>221854183It was better than Troy which I watched before this. A solid 8/10.
>>221854884For all of its flaws, I think Troy had a better understanding of the source material than Odyssey. The Iliad was about the desire for adulation, which is reflected in Troy through Achilles. The Odyssey was about hubris, which is a theme that isn't touched on in my opinion. Instead Nolan went for a theme about guilt, which is much less interesting.
>>221854548Agree except I would have also kept Pattinson, he’s the only suitor with any kind of personal charisma or screen presence.
The siren sequence was brilliant, really good choice to mute the audio and not have the generic lady singing like most depictions do. Agamemnon was awesome, dude had incredible aura. His voice deflated it a bit but I think that actually worked in showing he was just a man under the armor after all. Loved the Athena twist. Robert Pattinson was brilliant. Of the "controversial" casting choices, only the tranny really stood out to me. It was hard to take Ellen seriously. But it was a small part, so whatever.Other than that, the negatives were some typical Nolan weaknesses. Weird audio mixing, bad action choreography, stilted dialogue. But for the most part, it was really good.
>>221855040The Odyssey poem was about hubris, I mean.
>>221854183first 2 thirds were great, last third act was pretty meh
>>221854183The acting was awful. But I enjoyed it.
Just got back. It was almost a masterpiece but for whatever reason Nolan chose to ass up his potential masterpiece with nig bard rapper first scene and nig Helen of compton.Ellen Page was super assy and ruined the immersion whenever on screen. Same with that jew that plays punisher as Menelaus,I can never take him seriously.Agamemnon was my favorite character he didn't speak, he didn't need to His presence was like a force of nature and he never spoke. I fuckin loved it...until he spoke later on and sounded like Mike Tyson.Also some of the voice sync was ass, specifically in the witches hut when they had a conversation.
>>221855205>Agamemnon was my favorite character he didn't speak, he didn't need to His presence was like a force of nature and he never spoke. I fuckin loved it...until he spoke later on and sounded like Mike Tyson.That silhouette shot of agamemnon in hades, is fucking dope. But yeah, sexy sounds like a modern man child because that's what he was played by
>>221854638The Trojans have giants now? Fucking awful
>>221855205>Just got back. It was almost a masterpiece but for whatever reason Nolan chose to ass up his potential masterpiece with nig bard rapper first scene and nig Helen of compton.>Ellen Page was super assy and ruined the immersion whenever on screen. Same with that jew that plays punisher as Menelaus,I can never take him seriously.>>Agamemnon was my favorite character he didn't speak, he didn't need to His presence was like a force of nature and he never spoke. I fuckin loved it...until he spoke later on and sounded like Mike Tyson.>Also some of the voice sync was ass, specifically in the witches hut when they had a conversation.It's like a bog standard version of the odyssey but with nolan shit smeared on it, not to mention the story framing of having be "odysseus" remembering all the things that happened so they don't have to have any narrative cohesion. It's actually a terrible movie.
>>221855205>Agamemnon was my favorite character he didn't speak, he didn't need to His presence was like a force of nature and he never spoke.Wow he's just like my Japanese anime characters..
maybe i will pirate it in a year or two
I laughed when matt damon shot the rapper in the neck and I got some serious side eye from the sold out IMAX theater the only way to truly experience The Odyssey by Christopher Nolan
Cleanest best movie No problems in India
>>221855244the giants were the Laestrygonians
>>221854267The camrip cuts out the credits.
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>>221854183no, it isn't. it's advertising spam. there are already threads that you could be posting in if that was your intention. kill yourself for being an advertiser.report and ignore.
>>221854548Tom holland did a better job of acting than matt damon did, by far.
>>221854183Fucking weird decisions from beginning to end. Anyone who gives a damn about the source material isn't going to be pleased. Luckily, literacy is falling through the floor.
>>221855634Tom, holland's performance seems to be the most divisive.There are people who think it's terrible.And then some people who think he was one of the better ones in the film
I thought the film was very good, but I’ll start with some criticisms.>Travis Scott’s cameo as a bard is laughably out of place as a matter of his amateurish acting. The poor guy was totally unprepared to be in this film.>The action sequences are overall clumsy. The fight with suitors is especially awkward as a fight scene.>Nolan fumbles throughout when it comes to humor. It’s difficult to tell what is intentional and what isn’t.>The cinematography never attains much in the way of transcendent beauty with the lighting/palette generally bouncing back and forth between two settings: Caribbean vacation brochure for exteriors versus black/orange firelight for interiors.>Although it’s almost three hours long, the editing is so dense that there are very few moments to reflect much on what you see or hear. It’s almost bewilderingly.>Like most cinema nowadays, the score is lowkey to the point of not being noticeable.Moving on to what I liked, it’s basically everything else.As for acting, there are only various levels of strong performances. I was genuinely shocked by the extremely high quality of Eliot Paige’s performance, having gone into this expecting it to be farcical. John Leguizamo is another major standout, delivering the movie’s only effective humor but also plenty of bonedeep pathos and loyalty. Pattinson plays his role so finely that I worry he won’t get enough credit given the character is a despicable scumbag. Matt Damon plays a thoughtful, virtuous, and spirited king who actually lives up to the name of Odysseus.Interestingly, one aspect that generated a lot of criticism leading up to release ended up being one of the most beautiful and unsettling aspects of the whole spectacle: Agamemnon’s armor. Agamemnon, or in any case the idea of him, has such a powerful presence in this film. That imposing armor gliding around makes the sack of Troy magnificent and dreadful to behold.(1/2)
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>>221854183>thread for the morons who ate the caca so they now discuss the taste of the cacaOk.
>>221854183The movie is good, classic Nolan, even though I'm not really a fan of his. I thought the first act was pretty rough; it almost feels like a completely different movie compared to the rest. I hate the way Nolan starts his films. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and this is definitely one of the times it doesn't.Even though the movie is good overall, it's incredibly inconsistent. Some scenes are absolute garbage, while others are a perfect 10/10. The experience is worth it for the Hades sequences and the Sirens' song alone, they're absolutely incredible.In the Hades scenes, you can easily spot the influence of filmmakers like Bergman. The Cyclops sequence was also adapted really well, and the scene where the ship is torn apart in the storm has phenomenal sound mixing.It's definitely Nolan's most ambitious film, but it's nowhere near his best. Memento still hasn't been topped. Overall, I'd give it a solid 7.5/10.
>>221855679I don't know, I thought it was a decently respectful adaptation of the source material. Like obviously there was a lot of stuff cut and changed around, but that was kind of inevitable when adapting the whole epic into a single movie. I don't think there was anything too egregious for an adaptation. Just typical kind of stuff. The only major thing was the recontextualization of Odysseus into a repentant, guilty man. But I think that was a fine modern twist that was done pretty tastefully. Modern audiences wouldn't really understand a hero who is just unapologetically conniving and prideful. And if you actually respect this kind of material, you'll understand that a story like this SHOULD be reinterpreted through the ages in that sort of way.
>>221855908>The Cyclops sequence was also adapted really wellThey missed the entire point by removing his taunting of the Cyclops as he escapes.
>>221855791I dont understand these takes. I've seen a few on /tv/ now. The movie either has a ton of problems and still is somehow good, which doesn't make sense, or these are all somehow negligible nitpicks (sure doesn't sound like it) in an otherwise good movie
>>221855040>I think Troy had a better understanding of the source material than OdysseyNo. Reducing Troy through simple message of adulation is wrong (and makes it dull). Here's what a professor of classics had to say about it.>removing the gods from the myth did hurt Troy (2004). but i would not call the gods the soul of the composite myth. the fact that the movie treated anyone who was faithful to the god rather than cynical or agnostic as saps, dupes, or well-meaning fools, however, was a problem. i say this a both a professor of classics, specializing in greek mythology (homer in particular), and an agnostic who leans far to the atheist point of view. i don’t mind trying to take the myth out of history (or try to find the history in myth). that’s a thing with some intellectual and scholarly merit. but dumbing agamemnon down to a fat greedy old man in a tiki dress, turning ajax into a wwe moron, and (worst of all) painting priam and (most of) the trojans as naive dupes who put their faith in the gods just made for an insulting parody of the source material.
>>221855590>not malmoNGMI
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>>221856021>spending even single day that close to Denmark
>>221855988The overarching experience of the film is good, but it is full of minor things like Goofy casting a dialogue that would normally drag a film down. But this one has enough heart and sold to carry it, and it's also just an epic experience
>>221855722>Tom, holland's performance seems to be the most divisive.There are people who think it's terrible.And then some people who think he was one of the better ones in the filmHe's pretty shit but Damon is megashit.
Boat scene was absolutely horrifying, best one since Ben Hur. How come ancient/classical boat sinkings are so scary?
>>221856044Haha, yeah, man. He swings the axes around in a circle Ha, ha...I'm not even honestly sure if it's that bad of a tactic.Given the situation, he was completely surrounded by dudes.Trying to murder him
>>221855955He shot him with an arrow instead.
>>221856091>How come ancient/classical boat sinkings are so scary?Because you fucking die unless the god wills it.
>>221855791The dialogue is pretty solid despite Nolan eschewing the formalism of older epic films in favor of a more modern idiom. But where the script, and the movie in general, really shines is in its themes. Nolan reads the Odyssey through the lens of Aeschylus’s Oresteia trilogy so we begin with a world chiefly understood through the religious ideal of sacrifice moving to a new historical consciousness of guilt and justice. Nolan gives us a moral allegory of social values, chiefly built around sacred hospitality, crumbling because of cynicism and moral relativism. The characters, principally Odysseus himself, must struggle with seemingly impossible decisions (where there are only bad and worse options) and take accountability for their decisions as free and rational moral agents for better or worse in order to restore goodness and civilization to the world in the wake of the Trojan War.(2/2)
>>221856108Youre never leaving india ranjeet
>>221856091I don't think it's just ancient boats., the idea of being on a sinking ship is terrifying at a primal level. You're trapped with nowhere to go
>>221856129I've never been to India thank god, I have no desire to go
>>221856091Because there was no such thing as swimming lessons in those days.
>>221854183Cool. Fuck your gay ass, nigger loving thread.
It's a serious adaptation of the Odyssey. It's grim and bereft of levity, but at least we have that now so normalfags can experience the story too. Was kind of hoping to have more fun - I had fun reading the book 30 years ago.
>>221856208>at least we have that now so normalfags can experience the story tooNormalfags haven't experienced anything. If the poem is a steak this movie was a ham sandwich.
>>221855590Wally Walrus?
>>221855955I worded that poorly. I was talking specifically about the sequence inside the cave, in terms of how it was translated into another medium. Of course, if you're considering the weight of the original work and its themes, it's not even close.That's actually one of the movie's biggest flaws. It doesn't have what it takes to be a faithful adaptation, nor does it reinterpret the original themes in a way that speaks to contemporary issues. It ends up stuck in a kind of limbo, with no real meaning of its own.
>>221854183I thought I'd enjoy it, but that was before I saw it.
>>221856244You haven't seen it, nor have you read the poem.
>>221854183I'm afraid nobody has.
>>221856126>>221855791Good balanced anon. Good work.
>>221856325It was clearly written by an AI, you dunce.
>>221855722Tom Holland is in a tricky position here because his role is probably the most difficult in the film and it might have been more credible played by a younger actor (although he is by no means bad in the movie).>>221855930The Odyssey itself may be ancient but it has only been relevant to Western (Latinate) culture since modern times (16th century at the earliest but only truly coming into real prominence in the 18th and 19th centuries). So thinking about its meaning, for us Westerners anyway, as more modern than ancient seems honest to me. In this case, that means exactly what you say about recontextualizing the story into one about the rise of modern concepts of guilt, responsibility, and justice.>>221855988I don’t think it has a ton of problems, I only listed six issues and none of them are really too detrimental to the movie. They just make it a bit ungainly here and there or keep the movie from being a 9 or 10/10.>>221855955I think they left that famous part out because the film doesn’t really deal with hubris so much as a kind of transition from sacrifice-based values to justice-based values. Rather than hubris, Odysseus’s main character flaw in this movie is his demand to be a free moral agent conflicting with his reluctance to take moral responsibility for his decisions. It’s a modern character flaw rather than an ancient one.
I didn't like it leaving the theater, and the more I think about it the worse it gets. Every aspect of it could be improved. Total, worthless waste of my time.
After all the whinging about nigs and chinks in the film, it was white Matt Damon that was the worst actor in it
>>221855205The film does a few things well and agachadmon was one of them. It's good that he still had his helmet on in Hades. No sentimental return to human warmth behind the mask; he was the mask... loyalty to the symbolic order, unto death. "No one is home" behind the mask. Go home, and get slaughtered by your nigerian wife. Tragic. Heroic.Film was 5/10 tho
>>221856325Thanks Anon!>>221856344What a horrible insult. I really despise AI.
Posted my review in another thread but adding more to my post.Back from the theater. Been about 6 hours now to digest.I will not defend Helen of Troy or Ellen Page. Ellen Page in particular made me more angry, she was it in longer than I hoped. And I thought she would just go away but she returns later on and its very annoying.However, everything else in the film is damn near perfect. The pacing, the acting, the music, the realism, everything. Its like a trance, I forgot I was watching a movie and I couldnt look away. It even made me shed tears at the end which I have not done from any form of media in a long time. Cant even remember the last time.Also this has less to do with the actual film, but I only remembered part of this story from highschool. (About 12-13 years ago) In class we read it, discussed it, and watched Troy. The revelations and reveals, the story, as it was happening on screen, I was remembering everything from class. Remembering the teacher explain certain concepts of the story. It really enhanced it. Like I was tapping into some forgotten knowledge and it made everything feel weighty and somewhat magical. Its quite a rare feeling too. Usually something is completely new, or a remake of something you know well. But that inbetween state, where you are remembering it as its happening, quite rare. And makes it feel mystic. I hope the teacher is still alive and got to see the film herself.But yeah. The good clearly outweighs the bad for this. But I would not fault anyone for skipping because of Ellen Page. She is a major blight on this movie, even if shes only in it for maybe ~8 minutes. I could handle Helen of Troy but at least get the tranny out of this movie. It would be almost perfect then. I really enjoyed it.
>terrible editing (my worst gripe)>terrible cinematography>terrible music>terrible cast>terrible pacing>terrible dialogue>terrible costumes>Pattinson was good>cyclops was cool (scene was too short)Possibly Nolan's worst film ever made. I haven't seen Following though so it might be the second worst.
>>221856083Who would you say wasn't shit? They all were. Even robert pattinson was chewing a bit too much scenery for me. Tom holland was one of the better actors in the film.
I thought juan leguizamo did a pretty good job I'm glad he was in it now the little gay boy troon was awful and get voice was hilarious
I'm trans and I felt represented watching this filmChristopher Nolan is an ally of the lgbtpoc community
Was the cyclops trans I didn't see no pipe
>>221855590>GöteborgThat's gonna be a yikes from me, Sven.
Why did they have so many scenes of them running back to their ships to row away? Like, we get it, they're escaping. You don't need to show us 20 times.
>>221854183The scene where Odysseus explains to Penelope why he's fucked in the head and we see what happened in Troy is literal kino.
Regarding the Athena statue behading scene did Odysseus see Zendaya beheaded because she was the physical manifestation of Athena or was Zendaya just a random Trojan girl whom Odysseys later imagined as Athena out of guilt?
>>221856462>Ellen PageCan we just not with the deadnaming. It's 2026. It's time to stop being a bigot.
>>221856376I agree. He was a total miscast.
editing was absolute dogshit
>>221856660the entire giant island was the worst island by far, could easily be cut from the movie without a single thing lost
>>221855791>Matt Damon plays a thoughtful, virtuous, and spirited king who actually lives up to the name of Odysseus.What makes you say that? This portrayal was lifeless and limp. Nowhere is the passionate, cunning, superior man of the poem. Nolan's Odysseus is a tortured brow-beaten dolt no god would bother to favor
>>221856640It's so stupid. They're trying to conflate modern morality on bronze-age people. Why would a king feel guilty for sacking an enemy nation in a war that THEY started?
>>221856680The climax with the suitors was just as bad. The best part of this movie was the middle.
>>221855053>Weird audio mixing, bad action choreography, stilted dialogue.So the movie was bad
I hope they somehow find a way to release the raw footage. There's a movie in there that was tuned to shit by the edit.
>>221854183It was greatTake the L and get over it, chuds
>>221855791>Travis Scott’s cameo as a bard is laughably out of place as a matter of his amateurish acting. The poor guy was totally unprepared to be in this film.>>The action sequences are overall clumsy. The fight with suitors is especially awkward as a fight scene.>>Nolan fumbles throughout when it comes to humor. It’s difficult to tell what is intentional and what isn’t.>>The cinematography never attains much in the way of transcendent beauty with the lighting/palette generally bouncing back and forth between two settings: Caribbean vacation brochure for exteriors versus black/orange firelight for interiors.>>Although it’s almost three hours long, the editing is so dense that there are very few moments to reflect much on what you see or hear. It’s almost bewilderingly.>>Like most cinema nowadays, the score is lowkey to the point of not being noticeable.How is it that integral parts of the movie were bad, but it's a 10/10?
>>221856759Did you watch the movie? Travis Scott is in it for like 30 seconds.
>>221856708The entire point of the Odyssey and Illiad is that they fucked up and are getting karmically punished for it.In fact the entirety of greek thought and contributions to the "modern" thinking is about morality and various complex scenarios of exploring it
>>221856504>Who would you say wasn't shit? They all were. Even robert pattinson was chewing a bit too much scenery for me. Tom holland was one of the better actors in the film.Don't disagree on everyone being pretty ass acting wise. However a note about a movie is that if the acting is all bad then it's actually the directing that's garbage. Except Damon who is always shit but at least he's consistent.
>>221854183Costume design was fucking dog shit, especially for Agamemnon
>>221856646Shut up. The bitch's name is Ellen, and SHE had a body of work before SHE decided to play pretend time, which is in keeping with her established works as a professional liar. Lying for a living is fine if you are good at it, and can suspend disbelief; she can't.
>>221854183Remember when they shot that guy and threw him out of the horse? That was nuts, why would they do that!?
>>221854183Try back in a few days after the chuds piss themselves and rope.
>>221856644It’s ambiguous but my take is that she is a normal and innocent person, killed horrifically during the pillage, that becomes the personification of Athena as Odysseus’s conscience.>>221856680It’s definitely the most opaque and mysterious sequence.>>221856689Odysseus in the movie is quite passionate but he is even more rational. He more comfortable with thinking than feeling but he does feel his emotions very deeply, even if they are deeper down than his thoughts. This is virtuous as, unlike his crew, he does not hem and has over taking action. He is so effective in terms of being a warrior that he even insists on giving prey animals a warning when he hunts. This may seem superstitious but it shows his moral rationalism which is central to his struggle to accept responsibility and restore his civilization.>>221856759I definitely don’t think it is 10/10 at all. At maximum 8/10. Also I don’t call any of these things “bad” except for the Travis Scott cameo, which is the opposite of integral to the film.As I wrote above, to me the most important and impressive part of the movie was its conservative themes of restoring civilization and moral order.
>matt damon played like matt damon>zendaya played zendaya>tom holland played tom holland>bernthal played bernthal>costumes were shit>editing was shit>dialogue was a huge shit>action was shit
>>221856820Wow. Look at you. Big tough person misgendering someone. Maybe you should aspire to not being a garbage person.
>>221856708He didn’t feel guilty about sacking Troy. He felt guilty about abusing the moral pillar of his society, the notion of gift giving and hospitality, as a trick to get what he wants (end the war and return home).
I just got home from watching it. Was pretty good. The cyclops scene was really cool to begin with but I think they overplayed it. My other gripe was >hey look an island! >o fuk >run back to the boats! >hey look an island! That happened like 4 times. I wish they spent more time on each of the islands to get more of a feel for it. Cut back on the tom Holland and the queen stuff. That felt like filler.
>>221854548i liked pattinson
>>221856965i haven't read the odyssey since actual high school but isn't that really how the poem goes?
>>221856623>>221856965My theory is all the running away is part of the theme of them, especially Odysseus, not wanting to face responsibility for their immoral decisions and actions. (This is also why Circe, encountered on one of the only isles where they don’t flee, says she didn’t turn them into pigs but just revealed their true bestial nature.)
I didn't watch but I'd like to ask those who did, does it come off as cheap and shitty at times as it appears on the webms? Or does it translate better?
>>221857054don't know if it was because i saw it on film or because i was in the theater, felt pretty epic to me
>>221857054the sound is crazy in theater. i'm not sure how the cyclops sequence is in webm but in theater it's fucking insane, its screams are terrifying
>>221857000You don't have to show them running to the boats and frantically paddling away every single time it happens. They looked like they were filmed on the same beach every time too.
>>221856726No, I wouldn't say that. It wasn't an action movie, so that's a minor point. The audio mixing only affected a few scenes poorly, and the dialogue wasn't that bad, just kind of typical Nolan stiffness, not awful. It's a flawed movie, not a perfect one, but not a bad one either. It's good in spite of its flaws.
>>221857054It didn’t look cheap to me on the big screen. I thought it looked pretty boring and ugly in the trailers and, while it’s never drop dead gorgeous, I think the trailers did it kinda dirty.FYI Kansas standard rather than IMAX.
>>221854183I'm not gonna watch it, ever, but I will be in every thread making fun of it :^) you're just going to have to deal with it
>>221857093maybe i'm just stupid, i wasn't paying that much attention to the details of the beach
>>221854396OHHHHHHHHH LAWD NOLAND WHAT WUZ YOU THANKIN I SAID UH WHAT WUZZZZ YOU THANKIN!!! OOOO LAWDY LAWD!
>>221857092Absolutely correct about the screams of Polyphemus! Holy shit what a noise!
>>221854183It was not good. Cyclops scene was fantastic but that was it. Everything else ranged from average to bad.
>>221857033Yeah, I can see that. They just all kinda looked the same to me. If you've seen one, you've seen em all.
>>221856910>It’s definitely the most opaque and mysterious sequence.The Laestrygonians are a very small part of the narrative, generally ignored by adaptations that focus on the more interesting other adventures, but they are the incident that kills the vast majority of Odysseus's men.
tl:dr its a mediocre 3 hours long music.It will not have legs and Spiderman will ate it up. Global will not carry this movie to a billion even if it does 400mill domestically.
>>221857186You have a point, I certainly found myself noting that while watching which is what made me think well if it is repeated so many times and filming this costs X million dollars each time then Nolan wants me to notice and think about it.
>>221856660>editing was absolute dogshitYou just don't understand the mind of a true auteur.
>>221856782Are you retarded? The homeric epics aren't that deep. They're about heroes, feats, outsmarting your opponents, being a "great man" etc. They didn't start getting deconstructed until relatively recently like with paradise lost.
>>221857215Sure, same in this movie, Odysseus only has three ships in the film but he loses his two smaller ones in this episode.I have a theory about what this crazy sequence was about, other than getting rid a lot of his men, but it’s pretty out there.
So the cyclops intro was obviously the best part. But the body horror bit with circe was also really well done. The bone cracking noise and just the appearances were great.
>>221856954>He felt guilty about abusing the moral pillar of his society, the notion of gift giving and hospitality, as a trick to get what he wants (end the war and return home).I'm not sure this interpretation of the Trojan Horse has ever been put forth before. Certainly the Romans hated Odysseus and thought the whole thing was a huge dirty trick, but not actually an abuse of gift-giving; it was a lie by a known enemy.
>>221857295i was not expecting that and it convinced me that nolan could probably do a really good horror movie
>>221857253does the Aeneid count as a deconstruction? it's basically "what if Odysseus, but GOOD instead of TOTAL SCUM?"
Just came back and I liked it. There was a comical amount of animal cruelty from what I can remember:>Dog gets kicked the shit out of and dumped on a shit heap>Brid strangled>Two dogs burned alive>Sheep get slaughtered>Puppies thrown from a cliff
>>221857253Paradise Lost is comparably “old” to the Odyssey in terms of the Odyssey’s actual availability to Western, especially English, literature. Paradise Lost was published in 1667. The first major translation of the Odyssey into English (that is, from Greek) was published in 1614.
So the people that take this movie seriously and rate it 7/10 or 8/10 or whatever, do they just close their eyes during the Helen of Troy scenes and go "LA LA LA I'M NOT LISTENING I'M NOT LISTENING" or use some sort anti-stimulation tank during the scenes where a troon is playing a man? Or do they sit in solemn silence when Travis "Life is a odyssey Life a movie" Scott (*millenial basedface*) is on the screen saying some hilariously retarded niggerbabble? Hard to reconcile someone unironically taking this movie seriously with all the absolute retarded 2010's stale libtard garbage in the film. Reminded me in a lot of ways of One Battle After Another in terms of how hard it tried. Both movies were very clearly carried by the good stories/writing they were based off of.
>>221857353>does the Aeneid count as a deconstruction? it's basically "what if Odysseus, but GOOD instead of TOTAL SCUM?"Odysseus isn't meant to be taken as total scum though. He's meant to be admired for his bravery and cunning. The Trojan war is a war, no one felt bad about how they won, though they ruined for everyone else trying to use that gambit.
If you fags didn't watch it in 70mn IMAX I want actually no opinion from you. I saw it twice in 70mm IMAX. The movie is shot insanely well in IMAX and sounded incredible but I would NEVER WATCH IT AGAIN solely because it will just make it horrendous.
>>221855205>Agamemnon never spokeDid you watch the movie? Did you pay attention? Are these the idiots rating this trash so highly?
my theater applauded when travis scott died
>>221857387The Helen of Troy lady has like 10 lines. The gender guy or whatever dies in the first 5 minutes and also has maybe 10 lines.
>>221857387It was noticeable but it didn't wear out its welcome. The woke castings didn't have very much screentime, thank god. Ellen page was the worst one.
>>221857395>Odysseus isn't meant to be taken as total scum though. He's meant to be admired for his bravery and cunning.tell that to the Romans lol. I should have said "or at least that's how the Romans saw him".
>>221857311I certainly never thought about this interpretation of the Trojan Horse until seeing this movie (although as you allude to, Vergil calls Odysseus the “ringleader of atrocity”).I liked this idea from Nolan (I guess Nolan made it up) that Odysseus feels responsible for the destruction of values because of his dirty trick, and therefore needs (like Orestes) to find a new conception of goodness to restore civilization.
>>221857452>tell that to the Romans lol. I should have said "or at least that's how the Romans saw him".Yeah but the romans were always incredible whiny hypocrites so who cares what they thought?
>>221857435>>221857442Ok>>221855205>Benny Safdie plays AgamemnonAlright maybe I'll pirate it once it's available for free on the internet, but no I'm not paying for "le imax version" and yes your movie is fucking trash if it relies on loud noises and imax screen to be "good" (hint: that means it's dogshit) and yes, I will continue posting as if I watched the movie when in reality I haven't
>>221856726I love it, so many fucking reviewers do this shit. >uhhh the acting sucked>the action sucked>the sound sucked>the colors sucked>the dialog sucked>the plot sucked>the cgi sucked>overall pretty good 7/10These fucking tards need to have their fingers and tongues removed.
I also want to mention, as every movie shes in i should mention, God Charlize Theron is so fucking hot. Every moment shes on screen im just thinking about how pretty she is.
>>221855791>>221856126One of the worst "reviews" I've ever had the displeasure of laying my eyes upon. I'm assuming (hoping?) this was literally a prompted response from chatgpt. Soulless, wretched writing. You didn't say anything at all.
>>221856076This sounds like very savvy shilling. Almost a good effort but I picked up on it. Try again
>>221856725I agree but robert pattinson hiding and looking both terrified and angry was actually great. Hes the only actor to truly do his character justice.
>>221857358wtf I love christopher nolan's the odyssey now
No movie has ever raped /tv/ so hard. Never seen anything like this
>>221855988You have to understand that zoomers fear going against the cultural narrative like a cat fears water. All reviews start at 7/10, that is the bottom floor. They know their social lives can be ruined if they call something a 6/10 or worse.
>>221857587Low(est?) quality bait
>>221857633>No movie has ever raped /tv/ so hardDude!!! I know, right?!
>>221857633>No movie has ever raped /tv/ so hard. Never seen anything like thisNolan is the final boss of /tv/, now and forever. Cameron's space furries can only dream of the ass devastation Nolan brings here.
>>221857633if you think this is bad you should see what I did to you mom last night
>>221854183This entire thread is filled with reviewers absolutely shitting on core and important aspects of the story and movie making process for this movie but then also turning around and giving it a 8-9/10. Make it make sense!
>>221855590>pays to watch goy slop>gbgyea that checks out
>>221857674Ignoring the woke culture war shit, /tv/ is the only place on earth that has decried Nolan as the most overrated fraud in cinematic history and that will never change. Today’s crowd of online conservatives are exceptionally annoying but /tv/ would’ve hated the movie even if it was all white people
>>221857738>a Christopher Nolan film has embarrassing dialogue, bad action moments, and bizarre choices>but people still love itThis has never happened before!
>I was genuinely shocked by the extremely high quality of Eliot Paige’s performance, having gone into this expecting it to be farcical. John Leguizamo is another major standout, delivering the movie’s only effective humor but also plenty of bonedeep pathos and loyalty. Pattinson plays his role so finely that I worry he won’t get enough credit given the character is a despicable scumbag. Matt Damon plays a thoughtful, virtuous, and spirited king who actually lives up to the name of Odysseus.Bait used to be believable. I can't believe faggots are getting (You)'s with this low effort.
>>221857674When Oppenheimer came out.Was it controversial aside of the "My Le Bomb..." memes?>t. Took a break from image boards for two years
>>221857738That’s every Nolan movie. >yeah it was actually pretty shit and ridiculous when you think about it but I was thrilled while watching it so it was good
>They criticize part of mooby >How can mooby be good then huh huhYou keep saying this over and over despite it having been explained to you multiple times
>>221857782>but /tv/ would’ve hated the movie even if it was all white peopleWe would've hated it MORE! Especially since there would have been less chud-taunting supporting it.
>>221857787But did you see the movie
>>221857669Reddit would never joke about the topic of rape though
>>221855930>muh audience is too stupid to understand basic themes we must go dumberWe might actually witness Ouch My Balls winning an oscar in our lifetimes.
>>221857813Yes. Look at The Dark Knight. The absolute pinnacle of capeshit. Still never surpassed by anything in the MCU. But it's full of flaws and nonsense.
>>221856462Nice review anon
Look, when I read a movie review that "praises 'Elliot' Page's acting chops", at least that stupid retard was honest enough to just copy & paste some prompt response from AI. But when I see some other retard claim that the movie was "good" because they "saw it in imax, and you have to go see it in imax in order to appreciate it," I know that's an AUTHENTIC retard, because that's a terrible fucking way to shill a movie
>>221856208>It's a serious adaptation of the OdysseyGod damn I can't take this shit anymore, I just can't take it. The constant gaslighting, how do you live with yourselves?
I’m genuinely baffled people are rating this highly. Is it because they’re so conditioned to eating shit nowadays? Actually don’t answer that.
>>221857838Have you been in a coma since 2024? Libtards and redditards have started saying "rape" and "faggot" now, for at least several years. They were given permission from their bulls.
>>221856267>I thoughtDoubt it, anyone capable of thought would know. You've clearly got a long way to go.
>>221857787That was pretty good bait. The way they split it up into 2 posts, with just a blatant ChatGPT nonsensical dribble in the second post, was pretty clever.
>>221857864That’s because Nolan only focuses on the absolute basics of filmmaking, he doesn’t care at all about all the grit and details. The most well-oiled and functional car you could find but on the outside it’s fucking hideous
Lot of samefagging all of the sudden hmm
>>221857833Your attempts to astroturf are truly pathetic. Kys at my earliest convenience
>>221857958>crashes out>call it AI>whew that was a close one
>>221857918Bro people will STILL shit on Troy but then turn around and tell you with a straight face that they love any number of the MCU movies. The level of cognitive dissonance people have these days is crazy
>>221856708Because EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL CHUD. Everything must be recontextualized with the politics of the last 5 years.
>>221857838redditors will do say and believe whatever they need to at that specific time
>>221857987But did you see the movie
>>221857921>Libtards and redditards have started saying "rape" and "faggot" now, for at least several yearsKeyed, Rvddit WQN
>>221855040No it fucking didn't lmao
Robert Pattinson was the best part of the whole movie. Every line he said was kino. What a badass.
>>221856914>>matt damon played like matt damon>>zendaya played zendaya>>tom holland played tom holland>>bernthal played bernthal>>costumes were shit>>editing was shit>>dialogue was a huge shit>>action was shit8.5/10! The sound was loud when the thing happened that was EPIC!!!!
>>221858059He has always been a /tv/ approved actor
>>221857496Spiritual failure
>>221857387Most westerners have been blasted by brainwashing since the day they were born. They have accepted the replacement of their culture and their peoples. I bet most don't even notice the changes and if they do they think it's a good thing. You give humanity far too much credit.
>>221858134I must've upset you in some way.Good!
>>221856952Faggot. The transgender ideology is inherently sexist. It posits that gender stereotypes and gender roles are universal and that any deviance from those makes you trans. If you're a tomboy girl who likes sports and games, well then I guess you've secretly been a man trapped in a woman's body this whole time.
>>221857387>where a troon is playing a man?To be fair greek plays had men play the women roles so I don't care about it in context of the movie itself.
>>221857738>Make it make sense!It's next to impossible for the average man to go against the crowd. If everyone in the room but you says the sky is green chances are you're going to say the sky is green too. The narrative came out from the top that this movie must be a success so that's what most people are going to say. They have had decades of practice ignoring the cognitive dissonance at this point it's not even a struggle to say one thing and think another.
niggers, or NOLANOIDS as I like to call them
post the pig scene apparently its the best scene in film
Loved the homage to this during the cyclops. Overall the cyclops design was fantastic. Big harryhausen updated vibes
What did we think of the score?
>>221858186the nazis may have physically lost ww2 but in every other sense they were victorious. adolf hitler lives rent-free in the heads of all "western" people and ww2 became some kind of weird, demented creation myth for white countries that demands its own destruction. to plagiarize a youtube comment:>we must build a post-war world>how?>by giving up the will to fight for anything>what if we're attacked?>we'll pretend it's not happened
>>221857378Paradise Lost is awesome. Paradise Lost did not loom large in the consciousness and storytelling canon of the classical world. Greece and Rome were precursor to us in ways so comprehensively it may be mistaken as invisible. Claiming it only entered our sphere of influence at it's first translation to English is absurd
>>221858392>adolf hitler lives rent-free in the heads of all "western" peopleOnly because there has to be a Worst Villain. Before Hitler it was Napoleon, Genghis Khan, or Attila the Hun.
I've become increasingly inclined to believe this was intentional ragebait casting. Of course they knew the controversy of a black Helen and a tranny Achilles substitute, but this is just the postmodern, cynical world now. Who's going to get interested in ancient Greek mythology? Who even believes in what it has to tell people anymore? Nobody. So you generate buzz the only way people do nowadays. Make something that half the population can't accept which will make the other half defend to spite them.
What's the Odessey equivalence to this?If there aren't any I'm not watching
>>221858481Anybody who has ever used this reaction image is an idiot.
>>221858481Chuds ended up bringing more attention to the movie with their outrage. The strange casting choices became a source of curiosity. The controversy became such a spectacle that people became more interested in seeing the spectacle of the film itself.
>>221858508No, the controversy created a legion of fanatical political supporters for Nolan that also made up their mind on what their opinion of the movie would be before watching it. Anything that occurred afterward was simple confirmation bias to own the chuds.
>>221858534Completely untrue. Nolan is the normiest of normie directors and even prominent conservatives enjoy the movie. People like it because it’s a Nolan movie, not because it’s woke
>>221858403Homer was not available in the West until the modern period. Virtually no translations existed during the Middle Ages. I’m not sure what is confusing about this.
>>221858481>Achilles substituteNot the case.
>>221854183it copied from india sirs
>>221854183Why do self-destructive kikes hate heroism so much? Matt was just some sad sack of shit.
>>221858652We too scared of the chuds we renamed Achilles as Sinon
>>221858652He didn’t see the movie, anon
>>221858607It's two-fold, the political ideologues are the priestly caste which tell the normalfags what their opinions should be. The latter are motivated by fear of ostracization but also the carrot of acceptance by complying. Of course they know that black Helen is bad casting, and its in knowing that that they also know they aren't allowed to speak out against the thing they implicitly recognize because it would be morally wrong to act on that base impulse.
>>221858665NOLAN SAAR ANSWER FOR YOUR THEFT CRIME 5 TRILLION GOOGLE PLAY CARDS FOR INDIA RIGHT NOW SEND ALSO MAYBE 1 BOB TO MAKE IT FAIR
>>221858652>>221858676I did see it. In the film, Odysseus talks to Sinon's shade in the underworld. This does not happen in the original Odyssey, he speaks to Achilles, hence "Achilles substitute". You aren't fooling anyone by pretending to play dumb
>>221858675>>221858718Achilles was not from Ithaca
>>221858638Homer was a household name in Greece and Rome, the civilisations to which we are heir to. I'm not sure what is confusing about this.
>>221858222Men playing women is funny a fun for everyoneTroons being weird freaks and cutting off their genitals while insisting everyone needs to believe they're the opposite gender is grotesque and weirdSo yeah not the same thing at all, and the less I'm reminded these freaks exist, the better. Certainly don't want them anywhere near media
>>221858741Sinon wasn't in the Odyssey, Achilles was
>>221858718Odysseus speaks to a lot of shades, including his mom, a bunch of tertiary characters like Pyro who were only significant for shagging gods, and even Heracles himself. Achilles only pops up to say, "Death sucks! How's my boy doing?" He would be overlooked if he wasn't also The Main Character Of The First Poem.
>>221854230retard.
>"it's weird that they casted a tranny in the movie in the part of a male" >ummm the tranny is barely in the movie >ummm the tranny plays so and so character, oh you thought the tranny was such and such character? No, the tranny is so and so, not such and such>ummm why does it even matter?>ummm the tranny dies in 2 seconds anyways who cares?Ok, I don't really care about any of that, but none of that even tries to disprove the original point that it's weird they casted a tranny in the movieIf your whole argument is "No, YOU'RE the weird one for thinking that trannys are weird!" then just say that, stop trying to dance around the weirdness of there being a fucking troon in the movie!
>>221858197dude you sound just as gay as them
>>221856952Faggot cope. At what point did I claim to be an internet tough guy? Her inability to suspend disbelief is not my problem. Tyler Perry would make a more believable transition than Ellen because he has a prior body of work as a "woman". Part of growing up is accepting yourself as you are. She refuses to, and I have no interest in supporting a 39 year old child.
>>221858803>Achilles only pops up to say, "Death sucks! How's my boy doing?" Achilles in the underworld is to present the idea that perhaps nostos is preferable to kleos, it is not a trivial cameo like you're trying to say which sounds intentionally obtuse. >He would be overlooked if he wasn't also The Main Character Of The First Poem.that's precisely why it isn't a trivial appearance because it's specifically meant to complement how he is presented there.
>>221854183Is was very good. Niggas! The best histori i have seen all year. Christopher Napoli knocks another baseball out of the park! Haha I take my family next weekend
>>221857864The joker was atleast an entertaining villain that improved the dark knight. The only interesting character in the odyssey was the cyclops and he was only in the movie for 4 minutes
>>221854183It shows how laughably in the shit hollywood is, amateur hour
I was disappointed with the Scylla scene. It felt really lame and anticlimactic compared to some of the other set pieces in the movie.
Ben Shapiro LOVED this movie, by the way! Must be a good! The man has GREAT TASTE!
>>221857587You are brown
>>221859011You're still seething that your "review" was terrible AI slop and nobody fell for your bait? Just move on, man. It's been like 2 hours.
>>221856759Travis Scott is in 2 scenes making up less than 1 min of the movie although it is weird to open the film with a nigger doing spoken word rap then cutting to a close up of a tranny's face
>>221858746There is a long stretch between Classical Antiquity and Modernity called the Middle Ages. During the Middle Ages, Western Christians had virtually zero access to the Iliad or the Odyssey. We only received those texts in Modernity, around the time Milton wrote Paradise Lost. Hope this helps.>>221858718Odysseus speaks to a number of different shades in Homer’s text, not just Achilles. Nolan leaves all of them out other than Tiresias and Agamemnon. Nolan also adds Sinon. Sinon does not appear in either the Odyssey or the Iliad but rather in Vergil’s much later poem the Aeneid. Sinon is not an ‘Achilles replacement’ in Nolan’s movie.
>>221857738It's very simple. People experience a certain euphoria after watching an intense film in the theater even if the film itself has a lot of flaws. That's a sensory aspect that has nothing to do with rationalisation . Once that euphoria wears down after a few days or weeks they will finally realize how embarrassingly bad it was and they will come here to admit it.
>>221859060Alright, I see you've pulled out the LLM and you're just going to spam bot replies now because you never had any interest in discussing, only derailing wrongthink
>>221859054NTA but do you just call anything you don’t like AI slop?
>>221858876Great argument, faggot.
With over 1000 verified ratings so far, The Odyssey officially breaks Nolan's audience score record of 97%, and the average rating is 4.80 out of 5 stars. The previous record-holder was a three-way tie between Memento, Batman Begins, and The Dark Knight, at 94%. In addition, reviews of The Odyssey were critically acclaimed and earned Nolan's overall highest-rated movie with a near-perfect 96% critics' score.With over 1000 verified ratings so far, The Odyssey officially breaks Nolan's audience score record of 97%, and the average rating is 4.80 out of 5 stars. The previous record-holder was a three-way tie between Memento, Batman Begins, and The Dark Knight, at 94%. In addition, reviews of The Odyssey were critically acclaimed and earned Nolan's overall highest-rated movie with a near-perfect 96% critics' score.
>>221859087I don’t use LLMs for any purpose whatsoever. I’m not sure which set of points you are responding to in my post.
The hype and near-universal approval are already boosting the box office potential. The Odyssey set the best previews in 2026 with $17.6 million, which hints at a record-breaking weekend debut. The adaptation will likely make around $85–100 million domestically and over $200 million worldwide, which could become Nolan's biggest opening for a non-superhero movie. In particular, The Odyssey sparked high demand for IMAX 70 mm viewing, which is available in 41 theaters worldwide.
>>221858782Sinon is a character in this version of the Odyssey.
>>221854183Just got back. Bravo Nolan, another masterpiece. One of the best things he's madeThere was some weird casting and some odd stylistic choices but the whole film turned out amazing.Agamemnon was aura farming in every scene until he opened his mouth.
>>221856820Lol, baited>>221857253Illiterate retard
>>221859169>Just got back>Checks local jeet timeyep mmhmmm kek
If one is being honest and not mean spirited or envious etc., or just being an asshole, one is happy to give 4.4 stars!I enjoyed it and, will go see it at least one more time.I'm both tired and retired so, goodnight!M
>>221855270Nigger the original poem is Odysseus remembering it.
Just came back from the first screening here in Italy, don’t even know where to start. I don’t use this word lightly but yeah, this movie is a masterpiece. This definition takes into account the sense of scale, the cinematography, the acting, the sound design, the soundtrack, each of which, when combined, elevates the movie to a level you see every fifteen, twenty years if you are lucky. The Odyssey incarnates all the reasons why I fell in love with cinema many years ago. Everything looks so real, so tangible, you feel for the hero, you feel disgust, amazement, fear, estrangement, love… I‘ve found myself in tears a few times for some specific sequences involving Calypso, the war of Troy and sailing through the sea which I consider some of the best material put on film in the last decade. I won’t spoil them for you, but you’ll get what I mean once you‘ll see it. And most importantly, don’t fall for the controversy surrounding this movie: it is totally fabricated and inconsistent. To Nolan I say bravo for the sheer courage of putting into film such an ambitious idea. He delivered in a way that surpassed all my expectations.
>>221854183Did anyone's younger family member like a niece ask you why there's a girl playing a boy? Because mine did.
>>221859223I am in California you moron
>>221859312My condolences.
>>221859280Kill yourself pasta nigger
>>221859351>pasta niggera double entendre seeing as he copied it from reddit
>>221854465>”lemme ISSSK YOU SUMFIN’ REEEEYUCK”Shane was an instant classic. You can’t convince me that he’s what drags the movie down.
>>221854183Why the fuck are you paying to watch this?
>>221859312>calitard = jeet tier subhumanngmi
>>221857633what a weird thing to say after like three months of unbearable spamming two meme movies not like the spam is over even now
>>221859797>paying
>>221859223Well and truly obsessed.
>>221856680Whaole point of the sequence is that Odysseus and his men feel what it's like to be on the losing end of a battle. And also, they lose two boats in a shitload of men So it's kind of vital to the plot
>>221857918>>221857738>>221859064You also have to consider that the standards for modern cinema are extremely low so no shit most people are overrating it.
Bad film. Ignoring the absurdity of casting Helen of Troy by an African actor and fucking Athena by Zendaya, Tom Holland as the son, Benethal as Agamemnon, Leguizamo as the blind servant is so stupidly miscast and completely kills and immersion in the story. The acting was stiff and terrible. Somehow they made Matt Damon boring as shit. Ignoring the fact that Odysseus is suppose to be energetic, courageous, and boisterous rather than the mopey broken emo reluctant hero, even the parts where he should be acting angry and emotional such as when he swears he will bring his men back alive against the gods is so unemotional and stuff.Worse was the absolute trash dialogue. If you're making a film based on ancient Greek stories you need memorable, flowery, and epic sounding lines. Compare the film's script to something like Troy where Achilles says "Immortality! Take it, it's yours!" or "That is why no one will remember you." Catchy and memorable. On the other hand this film didn't have a single memorable line.Don't care for chuds crying about muh replacement or whatever. The casting is still shit, the script is awful, and Helen of Troy and Athena castings is retarded.
I liked it 7/10At no point watching the movie did I ever think "this is woke"
>>221861304thisit was movie
>>221861313>>221861304I thought it was a 9/10 At no point watching the movie did I ever think
>>221854183>you have to pay for the woke garbage in order to criticize itkek you leftists are hilarious
>>221861324cool
love how mask off jews are nowadays
>>221861693we were robbed
I will never watch the movie because they made Helen of Troy a Nigger.And I refuse to support any movie with a Trans Faggot in the movie.0/10 movie because of these two points.I am the only one here manly enough to say the FACTS
>>221861712"minotard"
>>221861716this guy gets it/Thread
>>221854500You'd think Nolan would be THE guy to give relative unknowns a shot because his name carries weight but no, he always cast preexisting big names on average. Pathetic
>>221855791>>Although it’s almost three hours long, the editing is so dense that there are very few moments to reflect much on what you see or hear. It’s almost bewilderingly.Same issue with Oppenheimer outside of RDJ's rage rant
>>221861560>>you have to pay for the woke garbagenahhttps://popcornmovies.io/watch/movie/1368337
Things that bothered me the most>"Our Bronze Age Civilization, built on TRADE and ZEVS LAW, is le collapsing...">"Take SWORDS!" "TAKE THE SHIELDS!" "THE SPEERS, GRAB THE SPEARS YOU FOOLS">"Grrr, if not for this patriarchal oppression Ithaca would have been fine if I, PENELOPE THE WOMAN WAS ALLOWED TO RULE"Black Helen had such a minor role that Nolan really had to go out of his way to hire a black actress for what would otherwise just be mostly glossed over. I can only conclude her casting was made on purpose to drum up controversy.Pagey boy had two scenes. If you are normalfag she just looks like a malformed boy and sort of fits the role. If you are a chuddie, somewhat distracting.I felt more distracted by the Indian second in command or the random Asian guy on the crew.Editing at points felt abrupt. The final fight seen with the suitors was a complete mess.Maybe it was my kinoplex but sound was peaking at points and the final storm scene where the ship breaks apart raped both my eyes and ears.Structurally I think it was fine, execution could have been better.Liked Pattison, liked Cyclops design, liked Circe's island. The land of the Dead was fine, as was Agamemnon's overall presence, except for the close ups of his stupid oversized helmet from the front. Calypso's part was good but not like there was that much going on.Holland was fine.Don't think I will watch it again. Was it only my screening that showed 10 minutes of the crew jerking off IMAX or was that some global mandate?
>>221862124no thanksmy time is a resource im not willing to pay either
>>221862176Which is funny that you're spending it here, doing this.
>>221862176You're posting on 4chan. You have no life, you have no useful time use. Get real you fat loser.
>>221861716based and samepilled
>>221856742>that tree in the background which moves way faster than the trees in front and behind itfucking kek
>>221862209>>221862218you just made the time I just spent posting in this thread including this reply by posting these seething repliesthanks
>>221862293No one is seething retard. You're just deluded if you think you aren't wasting time by being on a japanese hentai cartooon imageboard.
>>221862310thanks again
>thanks again
>>221862310>entai cartooon imageboard.Rance had a better plot than nolan's slop.
Nigbu nignogs niggers
>>221856725As an Odessey book enjoyer myself. the climax of the story is the Ax Knotch shot. Its meant to impossible to all but one of the greatest archers in the land. Even stringing Odysseus Bow is a Herculean task. The killing of the suitors is more of gratuitous chatharsis, its not meant to be suspenseful.
>>221857093Lol sounds like a Monty Python skit. Imagine the same FF footage of them scrambling with like the scooby doo run sound playing four times lmao
>>221857397Do i need ro watch it on film? There is a dual laser IMAX screen that is digital but not sure if i need to see it on film
>>221857798Yes. Tons of people were attacking the historical accuracy, sex scene and lack of Japs getting fried
>>221855053>Loved the Athena twistI didn't understand that scene. Was Zendaya actually Athena or some random girl on troy that was killed by the soldiers that Odysseus sees as the vision of Athena because of his guilt?
>>221862981Why don't you ask Zendaya on instagram?
>>221862981Did you ignore the 15 times when they said anyone could be a god so you need to treat everyone else?
>>221863099treat everyone well*
>>221854396>POV you work at Burger King
>>221854620>if you disagree with me, you're a chudCope and seethe
>>221863747No, you're a chud for acting like a chud. Don't pretend to misunderstand. After all, that's a leftist thing.
