Why the fuck is every single historical / fantasy type of show / movie coming out nowadays always looking so brown, dark and desaturated, despite the time period having lots of vivid colors and life into it compared to the mundane shit we have to go through today?Is this one of their plans to just make us not want to care or look into our own history or to think we somehow have it better in some way than our ancestors did? Or are they just this retarded they don't want to bother actually do any research or put the effort into it?
To instill a sense of bleakness obviously. Times were tough but I agree the sun should shine more
>>221860223Hope exists even in tough times. But these movies just make it seems as if there's no actual hope and everything is doomed. There's just a very miserable feel and look to the whole thing.
>>221860174It's just what they think both sells, looks good, and what the past was like. We've had brown-black leather for a few decades, and ultimately I think Lord of the Rings films started it actually. It also represents their actual belief that if there's "progress", then the people of the past must be unimaginably dull, covered in mud, and simpletons. So you know what's a big deal on the battlefield? Keeping formation and knowing who is who. A unit commander might have a special helmet that looks a bit flashier than others. Or they make sure to wear the same color. Or their shields are all the same design. And MOST helmets throughout history are open faced, with closed face being the minority so hollywood's hatred of helmets is ridiculous.
>>221860332So I've personally completely given up on anything that looks like this: overcast skies, mud, black/brown leather everywhere. Yuck. It's another genre I can just ignore.They think the people in the past are fundamentally not like them, and just backwards barbarians. Instead in reality:1. Everyone wants to look good and impressive to others, and to have pride in themselves. Most warriors looked rather stylish. 2. You need to be easily identifiable as friend or foe quickly. 3. Rank and status should also be easy to identify. 4. A shield and helmet are some of the most important gear, and some of the least likely to be found in Hollywood productions. 5. Most people most of the time will try to clean themselves as much as possible, wear nice clothing, bathe, etc. There would be some exceptions, such as someone so hopefully lost in alcoholism, they are functionally homeless or living in squalor.
>>221860385I happen to think chain-mail and tunic has a lot of drip. Keep in mind that this is during the actual honest to goodness "dark ages", or the period of political collapse where political units are at their weakest, smallest, and most disorganized. Were soldiers covered haphazardly in any furs or crap they could find? Oh and why no standarization? I guess they want people to stand out and be unique? I guess? But imagine the actual logistics of people creating hundreds of individualized uniforms? How about tell the people at home to make standardized helmets, chainmail, and shields?Literally 12 seconds of reflection shows how stupid this is.
>>221860447Chainmail, tunic, and a cloak is peak aesthetic. But its only appreciated by people who really dive into what it takes to have a textile industry that can dye things, and has the production to make maille.
>>221860174because if people realized that a previous era had some things over the current era our elites would have some problems with public support, the old world must always appear morally bankrupt and dystopian but more importantly worse than the current despite the fact that people had access to vastly more resources and the nobody lives to old age thing got disproven
>>221860174Because normgroids cannot separate appearance from tone. Colours = bright and cheerful, smudge = gritty. Eugenics is the solution.
>>221860635For me, it makes it so that every era is just a smudge of black leather so it all looks the same. Literally 3000 years of visuals looks very samey. So you should at least visually identify who the hell these assholes are just by the looks. That's because it's a visual medium?With no context, what era are these people from The Oddyssy from?
>>221860594Almost hitting on a relevant point. But I believe it to be bottom up rather than top down through a chain of command.As people became more progressive, they seem to have less optimistic views on the past. Proportionally more dull colors, browns, blacks, grey overcast skies. Older films were made by more conservative people with more appreciation for tradition.If you take 'progress' frameworks seriously, our entire cultural legacy is pure evil and backwardsness. Even if the story officially is not calling this into question, I am certain it bleeds into hwo they shoot these films. "These backwards primitives. Not like me, who lives in LA in 2026."
>>221861356They genuinely seemingly have contempt fro the past or anything traditional. I actually am certain this bleeds into their visual depiction of the past.
>>221861378They want to demonise european history so whites don't have a glorious past to look to.
>>221860174For me, it's Vendel era
>>221862021Ivan hoekek
The funniest part isn't the lack of color or that it's always overcast, but that they never wipe the mud from their clothes
>>221861356It's because they are in technicolor. All movies back then looked like this. Even horror flicks.
>>221863260post proof of horror movies looking like that
>>221862021Literally the most jewish film in the universe btw
It's wild that they made Greece look like Norway in the winter. Have these people seen Greece?Look at any picture of Greece, and try to find one where it doesn't look sunny and beautiful.
Jewish anti-euro propaganda
>>221860174The "gritty realism" trend. After the success of films like Saving Private Ryan, The Dark Knight, and especially shows like Game of Thrones, many filmmakers began associating muted colors with seriousness and realism. Bright colors became associated with fantasy in the "fairy tale" sense rather than "grounded" fantasy.Digital color grading. Nearly every movie today goes through extensive color grading. Cinematographers often reduce saturation, lift shadows selectively, and push warm browns or cool blues to create a consistent mood. This has become something of a visual fashion.
>>221863285Just Watch House of Wax or The Blob. They were all colorful.
>>221863382uh huh
>>221860174>nowadaysit's been this way for 20 years
>>221863423House of Wax is in color. Even the older one from 1930s is in color from what I remember.
>>221863285https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SKbAG0k7b0
>>221860174Maybe it's to illustrate that war is stupid. It is impersonal and brutal. You likely didn't die shouting "Valhalla" and jacking your dick. You likely got cracked in the head by an unseen opponent like in a barfight. Your death was lonely and unceremonious.Conversely, during that time, dressing in bright colors would BOOST morale. "Hey you're dying for King George, man! Isn't that great?" Kind of like how office employees wear nice clothes to sit in an impersonal office and do anonymous drudgery all day, waiting to be eliminated for any reason.
>>221860174Recording on Digital slop + Game of Thrones effect + Every talented editor has died or retired
>>221863790The difference is if I performed above and beyond King George would gift me with land and a wife from his fiefdom. In an office I get a pizza party and have to do all my coworker's jobs
>>221860174In Medieval China and Japan they actually banned colors for commoners as part of sumptuary laws
>>221864639Yet in modern historical movies even the Asian elites wear greyslop
>>221863293That’s not James Cameron’s avatar movies
>>221863790Professional soldiers for long centuries long periods of European history were very well dressed because A: It looked sick and being able to afford it made you high status, and B: Battlefields could be low visibility and being able to be recogniezd by your friends was good. Knights wore bright colors and heraldry because that was t heir personal glory.A bit later when you got professional mercenaries and stuff like the Landsknechts they took this to an extreme because a guy with a really nice outfit must be a really good mercenary, he's being paid for it.After the Protestant Reformation and in particular into the early modern period with factory weaving fashions changed, in the modern day we actually have VERY austere sensibilities in dress and fashion because the Prots won and the joyless solid plates of color and cut fashions that evolved out of regency dress and such became associated with high status. We associate this with "realism," many subconsciously assume that whacky Adventure of Robinhood stuff was just theater props meant to entertain people but it's actually the opposite, the real stuff was WAY crazier because it was also very localized you could go one village over in Germany and have an entire different dying industry because St. Germaine got bored and invented cyan there.
>>221860174The past was evil and dumb and bad, while the modern era is good and progressive and diverse.
>>221862097real
You want a madeup schizo theory? It's to make people think the world has always been grey and polluted.
>>221864857>and the joyless solid plates of color and cut fashions that evolved out of regency dress and such became associated with high status.I thought there was a big change in sartorial norms after the French Revolution with things starting to be more muted for very self evident wanting to not upset the plebs and lose your head reasons
>>221865074Heh
>>221860174>another muh colors thread
poetry is for fags
>>221860174I'm so outraged!
>>221860174AmericansDirectors of photography who have no education
>>221861323approximately 280BC or 1990
>>221860174Chud, haven't you heard that normal people are good? Please stop disliking Hollywood movies and listen to what normal people say.
>>221866197I shepherd the normies away from grey slop and send them to brighter fields of yesteryear, and then towards a better future, where there will be COLOR on my COLOR TV
>>221866843>yeah dude those roman slaves doused the logs in modern petrochemicals, that's why they burn so muchahistorical slop
>>221860174Normal people think colors are silly.Film makers think having everything be dark and gloomy sets the tone and makes it *feel* more realistic because of the previous point.Costume designers can keep their jobs since they can pump out shitty original designs instead of just copypasting from some Osprey history book.It's useful for characterization and differentiation between characters; in real life, both the vikings and the saxons wore the same type of chainmail and helmet and generally looked very similar. In "historical" media, the vikings are instead portayed as savages wearing black leather and several layers of animal fur.In general, nobody gives much of a fuck about historical accuracy. Again, if you asked the average normalfag they'd probably tell you that the leather jacket-wearing face painting woman respecting pop culture viking looks cool while the chainmail and cloak-clad realistic viking looks lame and stupid.
