>is the greatest anti-war film in your pathKubrick could never
>>221862247It has like one anti-war scene. Paths of Glory or Come and See are the best anti-war films.
>>221862307>It has like one anti-war sceneIt's a civil war movie you complete fucking retard
>>221862371Being set in the same time period doesn't make it a civil war movie
>>221862371A Civil War movie is a film in which a civil war is central to the story, not merely part of the background.
>>221862464>every major plot point revolves around the civil war in some wayBut yes keep telling me how it's not a civil war movie
>>221862502See >>221862502
>>221862523The civil war isn't "central to the story" it's cetnral to the setting
>>221862247There is no such thing as an anti war film
>>221862552The plot revolves around three men chasing gold from a regiment that was slaughtered during the civil war and travelling through various battles and prison camps in the civil war to get itThat's like saying Saving Private Ryan isn't a WW2 film because WW2 is just the "setting"Absolute pseudo intellectual
>>221862594It's a spaghetti western, half the film takes place in towns not battlefields
>>221862580TGTBATU is, not a single moment where it depicts the civil war makes you want to fight in it or think it was worthwhile Full Metal Jacket could never
>>221862609Towns that are under fire during the civil war? How long has it been since you've seen the movie? The only town not under fire are the first two towns (the one in the opening where Tuco escapes and the first town where Tuco is meant to be hung) the rest are under attack. You might be retarded
>>221862630IMDb has no dog in this fight, and war isn't even listed out of ten genres it puts down: Action Epic, Adventure Epic, Dark Comedy, Desert Adventure, Epic, Period Drama, Quest, Spaghetti Western, Western Epic, and Adventure.
>>221862666>quoting IMDbI accept your concession
>>221862666>trips of satan >imdbthe other anon won, sorry mate
>>221862685>>221862698>two non-argumentsSorry boys I win
>>221862707Quote Rotten Tomatoes next saarYou provided the non argument by quoting IMDb to begin with you fucking pseud
>>221862737>pseudDo you even know what pseud means, or is it just what you call anyone who gives an argument you can’t answer?
>>221862834>be me>provide actual scenes and examples from the film>anon refuses to counter my points or provide substantial evidence from the film>instead screenshots the imdb page listing genres >"stop providing non arguments and respond to my solid arguments!!!!!!!"
>>221862912Yeah, because none of those examples establish genre. You proved the Civil War is in the movie, not that it’s a Civil War movie.
>>221863050It's a movie about three men navigating the Civil War and chasing Civil War gold. Every major plot point is about the Civil War and it's devastating consequences for both the individual soldiers, commanding officers, and America at largeBut why don't you pull up the IMDb genres againThe same IMDb genres that list Spaghetti Western as the 8th genreYou know, TGTBATU, the movie that's only partially known as a spaghetti western, not THE defining spaghetti western>inb4 it's a spaghetti western so it can't be an anti-war moviespaghetti western is the genre, being an anti-war movie is the intent of the entire piece, but your autism won't let you concede this
>>221862611>want to fightwe don't fight because we want to, we fight because we have to.Besides the problem in TGTBATU isn't war, it's incompetent commanders.
>>221862247>Kubrick could never
>>221863160I said it had an anti-war scene, so I didn't say it wasn't anti-war. I just said Paths of Glory and Come and See are better anti-war films because they actually deep dive into the structure and nature of war, which The Good, the Bad, the Ugly doesn't.Paths of Glory examines how those in charge throw the soldiers under the bus and how war is unfair. Come and See shows how war transforms people into monsters out of necessity and destroys their humanity. Those are much stronger anti-war themes than one scene where they're wasting men stuck in a stalemate. So if you're gonna say it's the best anti-war film, where are all these anti-war themes that make it the best? here's a prison camp scene? Okay, have you ever seen The Great Escape or Bridge Over the River Kwai? There are entire movies about POWs and war. You claimed it's the best anti-war film, without any real justification.
>>221862307>Come and SeeNobody is ever watching that trash due to the meme scene.
>>221863160>>221863255Furthermore, if anything, The Good, the Bad, the Ugly is a shitty anti-war movie because it shows how heroism can always outsmart the system. Paths of Glory and Come and See show it's a lose-lose scenario where you're pretty much gonna fucked either way.How do they solve the problems in The Good, the Bad, the Ugly? Their cunning, their fighting ability. Okay. My anti-war movie examples show that you can be a competent, smart, good person, and you're still fucked.
>>221863228>thinks wars are necessary Good goy>>221863239Overrated and Kirk Douglas raped children>>221863255Because all those movies you listed glorify warThe inevitable dynamic of protagonist and antagonist in story telling when applied to war leads to the dumbest in the audience picking "sides" and they end up subconsciously rooting for one side over the other. I'm not accusing you of this, or the general audience, I'm talking about legitimate retards. I agree they are anti-war but if even one retard watches paths of glory or come and see and roots for the protagonist (a soldier) and end up picking "sides" then the movie has failed at being antiwar.Find me one person who watches TGTBATU and roots for the Union or the Confederates. Both are portrayed as violent and ugly, as well as sympathetic and strangely humanThis is because Leone found the secret hack--make the protagonist a third party, an observer, completely neutral and indifferent to both the conflict and the suffering so the audience has to sit there and just feel sad every time they portray a battle. It's brutal and more effective than anything that Stanley Kikerick could've made>>221863349It never depicts "heroism" outsmarting the systemIf you're referring to the bridge scene you forget literally 10 seconds afterwards there is a cannon battle between both sides that lasts overnight and slaughters most of the soldiers, Blondie and Tuco literally sleep through it and walk amongst the corpses in the next sceneRewatch the movie anon, I'm begging you, and you'll see how wrong you are They only survive the war because they're not DIRECTLY involved in it, just partial observersWell Angel Eyes doesn't survive, Blondie is a literal biblical angel and Tuco survives because Blondie IS his guardian angel. Tuco is the main character
>movie has nothing to do with warOp is a retard
>>221862247It manages to make an anti-war message fun, which is an an achievement. Blondie and Tuco just think the soldiers are poor saps and don't give a fuck about the war, they just want gold.
>>221862247The war scenes only drag it down and bloat the runtime. This movie is mogged by the other two Dollars movies, especially the first one.I disagree with the retard ITT screeching about how it’s not about war or not anti-war though.
