Idgi. Why were they killing each other? They all look the same.
>>221867580People stopped believing in communism in the 1980s and turned to nationalism as an alternative identity. At the same time economic issues and mismanagement led to Croatian and Slovenian elites wanting to distance themselves from failed socialism while Belgrade under Milošević sought greater centralization of power in Serbia at the expense of other republics.
>>221867675>stopped believing in communismThey never did, it's that Tito died.
>>221867716I mean yeah, people just stopped keeping up appearances. Everybody went shopping in Trieste, everybody knew that the Western Bloc is better and socialism doesn't work. Yugoslavs were especially aware of this since Yugoslavia was the only socialist country in Europe that allowed its citizens to leave and which imported foreign culture. Millions worked abroad and they knew.
>>221867675>>221867716Yugoslavia started distancing itself from communism even during Tito's time. Allowing private property right out of the gate, breaking up with Stalin, emphasizing worker self-management over centralized state control, introducing market liberalization measures, devolving power to the lower levels, etc. The real question is why Yugoslavs didn't continue on this path of steady reform, championed by Ante Markovic, and went down the path of radicalism.
>>221867580it's in their nature
>>2218683222nd yugoslavia was a fake country to placate serbs and keep everyone away from soviet union. it's ussr's blunder they allowed it. the whole creation was made to undo serbian military gains in ww2 and strengthen croatia and slovenia
>>221868530>serbian military gains in ww2such as?
>>221867580I am from the balkans and have avoided threads about the 90s forever. I will do not respond to ex yu threads ever. It is always interesting to hear what usa posters and other people have to say or think about the 90s there. good film btw
>>221868530What the hell was "Serbia" in WW2? Nedić's puppet government? Mihailović's Chetniks? Serbian branch of Yugoslav Partisans?
>>221868322Marković's reform attempts came way too late. By then, the wars were already in the works.
>>221868530>>221868593>>221868707please stop talking about the balkans. It is the worst. I cannot stomach a thread about this autism. Just shut the hell up about all this
>>221868707serbs were not a "branch", they were almost all partisans, up to 45 when croats turned coats.and yeah, blame the retarded russians that went communism so serbs went with them. they later died in tito's camps because of that rusophilia
>>221868774Croats became the majority of Partisans per capita in '43, not '45.
>>221868774this is not fucked true>>221868770>>221868774>>221868806stop talking right now. Shut this thread down. Unless you are from Croatia or Serbia in which case rope
>>221868806lol, croat serbs retard, croats were ALL ustashas and domobrani
>>221868751The war wasn't a sure thing until the first elections. The masses empowered nationalist parties over reformists.
>>221868878this is false. There were many croatian partisans starting even early on. My grandfather's father and his brother, croatians joined the partisans as soon as they could and both were killed. There are a million stories from every family member I have of helping the partisans and collecting discarded explosive material from the Italians for the partisans as so on. Balkan threads should be illegal. Stop posting rn
>>221868986>There are a million stories from every family member I have of helping the partisansmore like 6 million stories, am i right
>>221868878>saar those mean Croats were le evil nazi fascists!!! We were le good!! >eewww why are these ugly shitskin niggers from jeetland racially polluting our beautiful Srbija!!!Pick one
>>221868878Literally 1% of Croats supported the Ustaše movement. It's more popular now than in 1941.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ4bqODAQm0
>>221869103>primary source: Philip J. Cohenlol
>>221869233Not an argument
>>221869289it's absolutely an argument, phillip cohen is a well know liar and tudjman propagandist
>>221869342You didn't watch the video so stfu
>>221869476>The Nazi Party (NSDAP) (1933): When Adolf Hitler was appointed Chancellor in January 1933, the Nazi Party had roughly 850,000 registered card-carrying members. Out of a total German population of roughly 65 million at the time, formal party members made up about 1.3% of the total populationretard
>>221869617Hitler was voted into power while Pavelić was installed. The average Croat supported the Peasant Party and, according to a German-conducted study, only 2% of the NDH's population supported the new regime.Idk why you fags like to moralfag about this so much anyway when your life's dream is to annex Kosovo and kill the Albanians living there. Why bother with performative antifascism?
>>221869787>croatian pseudohistorysure, now i remember all those huge partisan battles against ustashas and germans IN CROATIA. they are so famous but hidden from history by evil serbs
who would've won the war if nato didn't intervene?
>>221869853Ever heard of the Battle of Neretva, retard?
>>221869961>battle of neretva was in croatialol, kys retard
>>221869991It was in the Independent State of Croatia. You're either trolling or genuinely retarded
>>221870025>it was in a puppet state that stretched to zemun, hence everyone in it were suddenly croatsdie cancer, i'm through talking to you
>>221870078Nobody said it was exclusively Croats in the battle. Now go open another museum about how much you got raped historically.
>>221869069Serb men used to rape and pillage entire cities now they're reduced to seething about brown people in their parks.
>>221869961the partisans from croatia were mostly serbs that fled from krajina, because of you know, jasenovac!?
>>221870980That was the initial stages. Neretva for instance saw large involvement of Dalmatians