>Iliad>Trojan War starts because a whore (Helen) and 2 simps (Menelaus and Paris)>Odyssey >Achaean version of "Moses' 40 years in the dessert", but in the sea>only Odysseus survives, forget about his men (brothers in Ares) >he's now a pathetic manPerhaps the Western Civilization deserves to fall for being based in simpism and female-coded drama.Christopher Nolan is a based accelerationist, he is the Avatar of the 13th Olympian God, Momus the 'Exiled One'.
>>221871832The Iliad makes sense if it's tragic. The Odyssey I agree with you. It's probably not even contemporary with The Iliad. It's like a modern, for those days, woke cope of The Iliad. Not great source material.
>>221871832>>Achaean version of "Moses' 40 years in the dessert", but in the seaWhy do jews have this "what about me" complex? Is it insecurity?
>>221871929>The Iliad makes sense if it's tragic.I still feel that the Iliad is equally bad, the Achaeans were the Indo-European invasors.Their Gods were Warmongers, why the foundational piece of the Western (Indo-European) Civilization would be tragic, it should be euphoric, optimist, vitalist, joyful about war.There is a reason why the male symbol is the 'Shield and Spear of Ares', and not the logo of any other God.
>>221872119>>221871832You're Indian aren't you?
>>221872173No. Are you?
The Epic of Gilgamesh literally starts with cucking and whores and ends with the hero failing and falling into depression. This is what humanity is about.
do you think throwing in words like simp and based make it any less obvious you're a shill
>>221872341I'm not a shill, I think it's pure "goyslop", but I find funny how people are seething about Nolan's version, when Nolan just make what Homer already wrote more evident. Nolan didn't add anything new (except darker skins and brainrot vocabulary), all the complains about how pathetic men are portrayed and the "depressing vibes" about this cool war were wrote by Homer himself.
>>221872297Perhaps 'burning books with awful stories' should do a comeback.
>>221872088Do you know that according to Onias, Hight Priest of Jerusalem, spartans (achaeans) and jews are cousins, right?
>>221872119>Indo-European>The Proto-Greek language, also known as Proto-Hellenic, is the Indo-European language which was the last common ancestor of all varieties of Greek, including Mycenaean Greek, the subsequent ancient Greek dialects (i.e., Attic, Ionic, Aeolic, Doric proper, Arcadocypriot, Northwest Greek, ancient Macedonian—either a dialect or a closely related Hellenic language) and, ultimately, Koine, Byzantine and Modern Greek (along with its variants).>Proto-Greek speakers entered Greece sometime during the European Bronze Age (c.3rd millennium BC) with the diversification into a southern and a northern group beginning by approximately 1700 BCyou're two thousand years off jam boy
>>221872590>we wuz Achilles n sheit>we wuz Heracles n sheit>we wuz Spartans n sheit>we wuz Alexander n sheit
The real Pillars of Western Civilization>Rocky IV>The Empire Strikes Back>Monty Python's Flying Circus>UEFA Champions League>Deepthroat
>>221872774I'm not defending Onias' larp, but I think it would have been awesome if jews actually fully accepted Hellenization.Imagine a world without abrahamism (judaism, christianity, islam), but fully Hellenised>temples and statues of Thy Olympians everywhere>all people are eugenic (beautiful, healthy, civilized, Olympianish)>beautiful cities, towns and villas in marble, with libraries, gymnaseums, pools everywhereIt would have been a true Utopia.
>>221872590>spartans (achaeans)Spartans were not Achaean
>>221872598>jam boy meme>he's probably a pakiKek.I was talking about Indo-Europeans as a people, not just as a lingüistic group.
Helen ran off with Paris because Aphrodite enchanted her in a corrupt exchange of favor during a beauty contest between Hera, Aphrodite and Athena.Moses wandered in the desert for 40 years because he was not allowed into the Holy Land after having disobeyed God over a particular detail. The entire point was that he would be forced to die of natural causes within sight of his goal.When Odysseus came back home, he was still the only man strong enough to string his bow and was able to kill all the suitors who were powerful heroes and warriors.The pillar of western civilization is checking to see if you are fucking illiterate by age 16 and if you are you kill your fucking self because you blew it
>>221872863>I think it would have been awesome if jews actually fully accepted Hellenizationthey never integrate and have always live apart from their host nation. you'd more likely find a true son of Rome on the boarder of Hadrians wall than a 10th generation jew in the city of Rome>temples and statues of Thy Olympians everywhere>all people are eugenic (beautiful, healthy, civilized, Olympianish)>beautiful cities, towns and villas in marble, with libraries, gymnaseums, pools everywherewe pretty much had that before wwii and global jewery, just White and Christian(a product of Rome more so than judaism). only after wwii kikes convinced everyone that everything White and European was bad
>>221872991NTA but if it offends you then you're obviously Indian, try being less transparent next time
>>221872991>pakiwhat's the difference? a wog is a wog
>>221872598>Saar I make many jars of jam for shilling the Odyssey movie best movie ever see on theatre screen but US English hard to know words
>>221873044I doesn't offend me, I don't know the context of the meme either. But, from what I saw in /pol/, every anon that has posted it was a paki or an american-paki.
>>221873042>Christian (a product of Rome more so than judaism)Christian romaboos will post things like this and then burn like "vampires in a church" if you ask them if they think Jupiter (lit. "Heaven the Father") is the Creator and, therefore, rabbi Yeshua's "abba" (father), in contrast with the jealous (female-coded) misandric (foreskin-hater) Yahweh (Kakia).>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakia
fucking retardsthe Illiad is about heroes are the soul of the people and even then they are puppets if the godsyou read the exploits of heroes and when Hector dies Troy dies with him, the plebs don't count
>>221873196>I don't know the context of the meme either.British officers would cover an indian child in jam so the flies and mosquitoes would flock away from them, the 'jam boy' got to eat the jam. a fair exchange.
>>221873040>low-IQ anon doesn't understand that people are npcs (goyim) and, therefore, only focus in the superficiliaty>Iliad's superficiality is greeks and trojans are pathetic simps>Odysseus' superficiality is Odysseus being pathetic sad man>Yahwehwood will exploit that 'til infinitum to mentally-enslave the goyim even more
>>221873354Ok, thanks, anon.
>>221871832>only Odysseus survives, forget about his menHe tried to save them. He tried! It even starts out saying how he tried but they were too stupid to live.
>>221871832Agamemnon was just using Helen running off with Paris as an excuse for war with Troy because it was a slight to his brother. The slight to their honor and the violation of hospitality was more the reason for war rather than Helen herself. Paris also stole a bunch of treasure from Menelaus.
>>221873462Yeah, and see how in every single movie and show, they ruin Agamemnon. He was and still is too Gigachad for the fags in Yahwehwood.
>>221873701Yeah, they like making it about love, even though in the Iliad Menelaus does love Helen and she was basically forced to love Paris by Aphrodite, they try to make it like a young love thing in Hollywood and usually omit that Paris also steals a bunch of treasure as well. The idea of "a face that launched 1000 ships" comes centuries later and tries to reduce the story to love, when it's a lot more complex and political than that the Greeks starting a war over a pretty face.
>>221871832Homer was a subversive, this isn't even controversial. Rightoids who claim these myths built the "west" are falling for (((the usual tricks))) because despite hating Hollywood, they only get their culture from Hollywood.Western civilization starts in the Pontic Steppe 6000 years ago with the Yamnaya culture. If we're talking about Greek civilization, its pillar is the Titanomachy, not Homer.
>>221871832>Trojan War starts because a whoreHelen was the excuse to conquer Troy
>>221874064>If we're talking about Greek civilization, its pillar is the TitanomachyElaborate it, please.
>>221874016>>221874099I know, adelphoi (brothers) in Zeus, unfortunately for us, most people (npcs, goyim) do not see it and will not see it that way:>The idea of "a face that launched 1000 ships" comes centuries later and tries to reduce the story to love, when it's a lot more complex and political than that the Greeks starting a war over a pretty face.>>>221873374
>>221874147Olympians led by Zeus overthrow the titans led by his father Chronos, basically the founding myth of their gods
>>221874394I knew that, what I was asking is how the Titanomachy founded the Greek civilization?What or how was the civilization that worshipped the Titans, the previous to the commonly known as the 'Greek'?What changed about the worldview to explain that myth or that reflect the consequences of that myth?
