How can be Thor more scared about Doctor Doom than Thanos with the Infinity Stones that was unstoppable and wanted to kill half of the living beings in the universe? How can Doctor Doom be scarier than that?
simple, unlike Thanos Doctor Dooms wants to rape him
Thanos had the infinity stones for like three seconds there wasn't any time for a proper threat assessment
>>221983629thor hit thanos and he just died.
>>221983672All the most powerful Avengers couldn't win against Thanos and he did kill half of the universe. It was only after he got debilitated for using the infinity stones that they could kill him.
>>221983758Ok and as I said the time between him getting all the stones and using/losing them was incredibly shortEven more so if we're looking at how long Thor knew he had them all considering he went from the other side of the galaxy to axe in Thanos' chest in a blink
>>221983629He’s talking about the two universes smashing into eachother
How many spinoff shows do i have to watch to understand this movie?
Because it's trailer editing. Thor isn't talking about Doctor Doom in that scene, he's talking about the Multiverse dying.
>>221983629Just so you are aware, comics are not written to accurately and consistently uphold power balance. The person who wins only wins because the writer wanted them to. You are trying to look at it scientifically when there is absolutely no science to it. Doom is stronger because that's just what the writers wanted.
>>221984425it's a sequel to endgamenothing else matters
>>221984425Fantastic 4 for sureThunderbolts probably, Bob is just too big of a nuke for Doomsday to ignoreQuantumania is a maybe in case they joke about just dropping Kang, Quantumania sucks don't bother watching it
>>221984425who gives a fuck about understanding it?go for the cgi action and for the stupid jokes
One of the reasons they have to use the multiverses is to be able to add the Fantastic Four, X-Men and also Doctor Doom. Because they can't explain how they weren't present when Thanos attacked Earth. Weird because the multiverse is always to see other versions of the superheroes like when we saw the 3 Spider-Man but we always have the superhero present in all the universes. In this case the Fantastic Four, X-Men and Doctor Doom just don't exist in the main universe.
>>221985051>Because they can't explain how they weren't present when Thanos attacked Earth.very easy to explain considering thanos attack on earth was a very short event.In Infinity war he landed in wakanda, nobody could join that fight uninvitedin endgame the whole confrontation lasted like 1hour, not enough time to get there unless one of doctor strange wizards teleports you
>>221983629I cant believe the picked RDJ as Doom, this sucks
>>221983629Thanos just fucked up that one universe. I assume Doctor Doom wants to fuck up all the universes.
>>221983629Because Doom isn't a fucking retard like Thanos is>Universe got too populated, life in danger of devouring itself>Thin the herd with magic rocks to reduce resource pressure>Proceed to destroy said magic rocks>Surely that solves everythingThat big purple nigger basically mowed his lawn then blew up the mower after he was done.Doom told Thanos himself that his plan lacked in imagination.
>>221985051Will America be back to open portals to the other universes?
>>221985418>News>It sure sounds like
>>221984425>Begins writing a "Yakko's World" parody of Marvel movies, starting from 1998 and possibly including Howard the Duck
MCU is over after secret wars
>>221985665>1998Why not go all the way back to 1962 animated shows?>There's Cap and there's Iron Man; Fantastic 4, Spiderman; all of course 60s cartoons>The 70s Fan 4 again, also Spider Wo-man, and for some reason there's The Thing too
>>221985418you can't spell ignorant without ign
>>221983758no proof he was debilitated and a handful of d to b-tier heroes power wise + dr strange not doing much defeated thanos constantly using multiple gems until russos needed peter to go full pratt. in the mcu, thor, captain marvel written intelligently, hulk written correctly, dr. strange not holding back, etc. would stomp no gem no henchmens thanos solo presnap
>>221983629because this time he doesn't want to kill just half... he now wants to kill them all!
How is Doom so strong that he can stop Thor's attack with zero effort?
>>221986875Presumably he's gotten a power up of some kind by that point.
>>221983629To make you care about their new slop.
>>221986910Absorbing the power of some god maybe?Also, what is te difference between being a god like Thor and Hulk for example. They are very strong but they can be killed. What makes you a god?
>>221986959>Absorbing the power of some god maybe?I mean Bob's right there as the obvious power source already
>>221983629>How can be Thor more scared aboutThor am has can be was more about be
>>221984425>How many spinoff shows do i have to watch to understand this movie?just Loki
>>221987013Between this and "Me fuck I her would scare the humanity a way more" from the Dafne Keen thread earlier, I legit think /tv/ is trying to break my brain...
>>221986959>What makes you a god?What makes you a king?What makes you a non-believer who don't believe in anything?
>>221983629Honestly, End Game was a very conclusive and definitive climax and end to many years of story telling in the MCU.They probably should have closed the door, maybe a couple other movies to tie off any remaining loose ends. Like, I could have understood a subtle amount of additional milking of the proverbial cash cow. But they went whole hog into just tons of terrible spin offs they truely believed they could take a shit on a canvas and fans would celebrate because it was that popular at its peak. Plus the ever rising tide of left wing political propaganda being subliminally put into the characters, story, and writing just did a massive detriment to the non-partisan escapism of the movies. Soon as you go political, no matter left or right, youre gonna alienate 50% of your audience. Thats a terrible idea. The Eternals was kinda retarded, it basically made Thanos a good guy, didnt elaborate at all then left without explaining. Then they wanted people subscribe to Disney plus and watch an ungodly amount of terrible dialog and plot over HOURS. Then they wanted Kang, we know how that story went. Idk it was basically cursed ontop of just terrible decisions. Then they broke the emergency glass and brought jackman back with deadpool. Now theyre hitting the absolute new lows, theyre bringing all the jobbers in from the shit post end game mcu and forcing Captain America to come back and RDJ. They not only beat a dead horse to death, they turned it into a zombie and are now beating a zombie horse. Its like BRUH, just let an old dog sleep and get a new puppy, do and x-men cinematic universe with an all new younger cast that can carry the next two decade. Do Apocalypse instead of Thanos and copy pasta the original mcus playbook.
He's probably not actually talking about Doom in the trailer dialogue, but the incursion that is happening right outside their window. If the plot leak was real, Doom will feign being an ally to the Avengers in the first half of the movie. Part of me thinks it's a bit dumb, since his betrayal would surprise exactly zero (0) people. On the other hand, these movies are based off Hickman's Avengers run, and I thought Doom also came across as a scheming rat when I read some of his work. It's character accurate.
>>221983629Because his little bro Loki told him about how every grunt in the 4th dimension or whatever just has a completed infinity gauntlet in their desk drawer
>>221983629You see Doom's armor?It's called Plot ArmorIt is the strongest armor in the multiverse
>>221983629Because Thanos had conviction in what he believe he was doing, was right. Although wiping out half the pop would suck, life would move on.Doom wants to destroy the multiverse.Bit different.
>>221989265>You see Doom's armor?>It's called Plot Armor
They fucked up. Should've done a 1-2-3.Should've had one movie as a lead-in for Doom to start making moves, then have him become a major threat at the end of that movie to build up hype.Second movie is Doom bodying everyone while the "good guys" scramble to figure out how to stop him. Again, make the audience invested into solving the threat. And have Doom do some villainous stuff.Third movie is everyone getting their shit together and a big fight.Instead they're packing everything into one movie and stacking it with 50 "main" characters so everyone will have exactly 2 minutes of screentime. Then the
>>221989317snapping fingers that wipes out loved ones indiscriminately across the entire universe is something the audience can understand"destroying the multiverse" legitimately means fuck all since it's so abstract and the stakes are just bogus. especially since MCU already had that show and a couple of movies dealing with similar matters and it didn't really click
>>221983758They didn't face him together, Tony, Steve, and Thor were in different corners of the universe and by the time there was an organizes resistance to him he had all but the last stone. You can never underestimate the power of friendship.
>>221984425Nothing. Just ask chatgpt to list all the new marvel characters added since the last movie you watched and describe them and you are good
>>221990879If I had to guess, Doom is from another universe, he shows up in the other universes trying to blow them up, probably so there can be an incursion, and the resolution of that would be rebooting the MCU to have the Fantastic Four as the first family, and mutants running amok.
>>221985350>I cant believe the picked RDJ as Doom, this sucksThere are a lot of murmurs now that either there is a twist that RDJ isn't playing him or RDJ is playing hm but not as an Iron Man variant that it literally is just RDJ playing a different character and when they unmask him people won't recognize him. Kevin Feige did a weird rant implying they are reusing the actor but he will be presented as the existing characters as a new person.
>>221983629Thanos couldn't even stop Stormbreaker from piercing his chest. The gauntlet in the movie is fucking garbage and only does one thing.
>>221991202The movie basically showed that Captain Marvel could easily 1 v 1 him and for plot convenience had to remove her from the story till the very end
>>221990879They already did, that's the twist ending of Doomsday that will lead into Secret Wars.Dr. Doom is actually the Kang variant, Victor (von) Timely, introduced in Loki. The overarching plot are his efforts to create an incursion of all multiverses back into the prime universe, sparking a second Multiversal War, and regaining his title of He Who Remains. Casting Robert Downey Jr. in a mask with an accent was the perfect cover to Majors' return.
>>221984425Fantastic Four First Steps, but that's probably it. It doesn't seem to include anything that's been in the shows.>>221991121Fantastic Four First Steps seems to imply that he's from their universe they show Latveria's seat at the international conference and it's empty implying that Doom took control there.>>221991146I really hope he's actually Victor von Doom and not evil Tony Stark.
>>221991305marvel please do this because it would be so fucking funny
>>221986959>What makes you a god?Being from Asgard and worshiped as the god of thunder. In the marvel universe several pantheons of gods exist. If you want the deep deep deep genesis lore, Asgardians were one of the earlier intelligent beings in the universe, but they were just sort of an amorphous blob.One day that blob would find itself on earth in Norway. Early humans saw them, thought they were gods, and projected their mental image of the Norse gods which the blobs mimicked, and they quickly forgot they were anything else, and they began manifesting all the old norse mythology as real and you get the nine realms, asgard, the gods, and their prophecies. But if you ever want to get into the weird cosmic meta physics of the marvel universe, check out Earth-X. It was marvel's crack at a Kingdom Come type story, (even getting alex ross to contribute). Earth-X is basically the "end" of the marvel universe, where they sip ahead into the future where everyone on earth has super powers, the avengers and the rest of humanity couldn't stop it from happening, and the old heroes are just aimless since they're not needed any more. Reed discovers there is something bigger going on, and over the mini-series it just goes deep into marvel history, tying up old plot points, bringing some deep cuts out of retirement, and things escalate until you get a pretty satisfying and impressive ending. The follow up Universe X is pretty good. The finale Paradise-X isn't bad, but the ending feels a little rushed because they canceled the double-sized finale an had to wrap things up too quick.
>>221991224The funniest part about her returning is that Thanos' plot armor is her and the collective band of superheroes in general having the IQ of a newborn lamb.>Receive the gauntlet from Peter Parker, openly revealing his secret identity>Stays on the battlefield, flying under twenty feet, and keeps trying to get the gauntlet to the mystery machine even though that would completely fuck up the timeline(s) moreso than they already were>Could've just flown into space and used the stones herself, Thanos can't do shit at that point>mfwAmazes me that people actually like the Battle of Earth. Legitimately one of the dumbest, most anti-climactic sequences of events I've ever witnessed. Like the movie was already a piece of shit with the nonsensical Time Heist, and then two hours later THIS shit comes along. Fuck me.
>>221991393I agree I hated the end just visual diarrhea. Would have been better to focus on the OG Avengers fighting Thanos and everyone else of just in the background doing whatever
>>221991393>even though that would completely fuck up the timeline(s)At that point it was just about getting it away from thanos. Also an excuse for the super hero relay-race where you can give the side-side characters something to do.
All the tension died the moment Doctor Strange went on gamefaqs with the time stone to figure out how to win at that point onward you assume he as manipulating things to get them there
>>221991464>Would have been better to focus on the OG Avengers fighting ThanosThat is what happens in the first half of the fight. Tony, Cap, and Thor take him on together. They really should have given the Hulk another go at him as well.
I'm just disappointed that despite the multiverse action, we won't get the 05 Doom. RIP
>>221991479Yeah but I mean, that's where the question of who are the heroes and who are the villains starts really pushing the line, because the Time Heist itself was already theorized in-universe to potentially cause consequences that could lead to quite literally infinite deaths and destruction, and (((they))) do it anyway, even though they're AVENGERS.Then when the chips are down, and they have a busted but in-good-faith plan to minimize those effects, they sell it just to save their own timeline's skin?Fuck Thanos, especially the neutered MCU version, but fuck The Avengers too. By the end I wanted to see them eat shit.Except Hawkeye and his family. That dude deserved to win.R.I.P. Jeremy's Renner.
>>221991515they didn't even recreate, the most famous set of frames from the comic where Capt is the last one standing and walks up to Thanos face to face and shit talk him to his face no they had to cut that for the girls get it done scene
>>221991587That would have happened in Infinity War.
>>221991510>Only views 14,000,605 futures>Appears to be phaseshifting in the present even though he's a master manipulator of time and, relative to the audience's present, time shouldn't have passed at all while he was looking into the futureswhew
>>221991610I wish later on we learned there were other timelines where Iron Man lived but either he chose the dead Iron Man time line because Iron Man would turn evil eventually or he just didn't like him
>>221983629Hello welcome to comic books and other long running franchises that due to their length become comically retarded to keep the plots going, enjoy your stay.
>Uh, guy, we can't kill babby Thanos, that's heckin' cruel, but also that's not how time works; influencing the past doesn't change your present>>A Few Moments Later...>Hey you fuckers, remember: don't interact with the past because it could have unintended consequences for the futureWhy did they send Steve Rogers of all people to return the stones again? Like in theory you need to return all of them (except the time stone) back to the exact zeptosecond they were removed, so shouldn't it be Doctor Strange? How the fuck do you even return shit like the Reality and Soul stones? What was even the significance of three stones being in New York anyway if they still sent three individual teams to retrieve them? Why did they all initiate the Heist at the same "time" instead of sending one guy, using one patricle, to try and retrieve as many as possible before trying again? Nevermind the whole "Why didn't they just get more particles from the start?" issue.Goddamn these movies are so fucking stupid.
>>221983629>that time doom got the infinity gauntlet and then went to another universe to take theirs so he would have a matching pair >the power of one infinity gauntlet cancels out the other >doesn't matter because he doesn't have them because he needs more power but just because Doom SHOULD have TWO.
>>221983629Because he gives that speech after finding out he killed super time reality God Loki and took his reality time powers
>>221991642There's really a lot of implications as a result of that goofy little setup that served no other purpose than to get the green jellybean into the purple prune's hand.Like, was Strange able to see the heist gone wrong, creating the circumstances that caused TVA Loki's existence, which itself is what caused the collapse of the prime timeline that caused the Multiverse, which created Dr. Doom?Like, what was the cutoff for how far he viewed?Fuck it. Meanwhile this nigga is just off in the Dark Dimension getting his dick sucked.
The real question is how will Visionquest tie in to Doomsday?
>>221991642I think they were trying to introduce this aspect in Multiverse of Madness, to make Strange doubt whether or not the route in Endgame was REALLY the only way, but the writer of that movie was an incompetent hack, so.
>>221991883Is that ever coming out?
>>221983629thor was never scared of thanos, he wanted to murder him 24/7we don't even know whether he's talking about Doom in the trailer
>>221984755watch them pull a IW Hulk and say he can't use his powers because his evil side took them with him and he can't find it in his brain
>>221984425Spin a revolver cylinder
>>221987824I understand that reference.
>>221985350>>221991146Didn't they already try this with Ben Kingsley playing Confucius or w/e tf? Lmao>Be sure to see the next sequel when the actual villain will appear not some stunt casting viral nigger
>>221985418>America Chavez Is it true that Nick Fuentes's dad is 50% Sephardic jewish? He released his 23andMe but that was from before 23andMe began specifying for that. And Nick is now refusing to deny it. https://nitter.poast.org/DanBilzerian/status/2080072706532512152
How was Bane so perfect but Doom is faggot tier?
>>221986959A god puts Jews in their place, a super hero makes them rich, a mutant is how they see themselves vs goyim.
>>221987145speak english nigger
>>221985198But they also can't explain why they weren't present from avengers 1 to everything since
>>221989317How many Israelis were left post snap?
>>221983629>How can be Thor more scared about Doctor Doom than Thanos with the Infinity Stones that was unstoppablethor with his new axe managed to grievously wound a full power thanos and would've killed him if he just went for the head
>>221983758Scarlett Witch defeated Thanos 1v1 and he had to call in his team.
>>221985418She will open Kate, Cassie, and Kamala's portals.
>>221991091Russos said a unified avengers team would've stop thanos. which they did in endgame.
>>221991883>A spin-off from the miniseries WandaVision, it is intended to be the 18th television series in the Marvel Cinematic Universe >18th television series in the Marvel Cinematic Universe
>>221983629Doom has killed Thanos in the comics
>>221991091>>221992756To this day, I still cannot figure out what the fuck Tony was thinking with "I will completely leave Earth behind and go to what is, as far as I know, Thanos' home base, with my only back-up being a guy I don't know and my teenage sidekick whom I don't think is ready for 90% of the shit he tries to do." Like I know Thanos was a touchy subject for Tony and he had some PTSD from New York and all, but there's a difference between "Some times people aren't thinking and they make a bad choice" and "This character is actually, objectively, and clinically retarded." If Tony was that stupid with his decision making in other situations, he'd be doing shit like fighting Steve and Bucky in Civil War without an Iron suit.
>mads mikkelsen was saved from being cast as Dr DoomThank God. He shouldn't ruin his career with more capeslopIt would be an excellent performance though.
>>221983629Doom is a low tier jobber 99% of the time, he needs mcguffins which the MCU failed even introduce
>>221983629You don't fuck with Doom, especially not during the event this movie is based on.
>>221985350What are the odds his face is visible for 90% of his screentime?
>>221993131The henchman had Strange and Strange had the time stone, Stark had to go handle that immediately.
I dont know shit anout Doom. Was he even in Marvel comics during the 90s? I remember buying mostly Avengers, Spiderman, X-Men stuff and the only DrDoom thing I vaguely remember is Doom 2099.
>>221993305Yeah, but once Ebony Maw was dead, Tony decided to keep going to Titan instead of turning the ship around and going back to Earth where literally all the other Avengers were.
