he raped Nikki
but that's okay, I would've done the same

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>>221985578
>He didn't know the wish would work.
>He was under no obligation to kill himself for Nikki.
>Only moral flaw was being slow to believe it was real.

If anything, even attempting to kill himself is heroic far beyond what a woman would ever conceive of doing for a man. May this webm be a reminder.

>>221985611
No Nikki raped him

He wasn’t evil he was just a massive bitch

>>221985578
Not evil for not killing himself. Evil for not immediately acknowledging how fucking the situation was when he had objective evidence. Notice how I didn't say he needed to kill himself to not be evil, but the lack of immediate transition to "how do I fix this?" mode is the problem. It was only a problem when it affected him, not when it affected her.

Is scarlet witch evil?

>>221985705
Yes. Trapped literal children in isolated hell for months on end.

>>221985578
He's selfish, pathetic and an idiot. But straight evil? Nah

>>221985578
evil as in malevolent, no not exactly

evil as in selfish, egotistical, cowardly, entitled, and unwilling to accept the consequences of his actions, yes.

all white men are evil

>>221985578
He was just lonely and sad. Yes, he did the wrong thing, but if women can say it was rape because they were drunk we should be able to say it wasn't because we were sad.

>>221985578
When Bear tried to confront her about lying about her dad, she made a giant scene. He had no choice but to fuck her. If he had his way, he wouldve talked it out with her, see why shes lying, end the relationship because her behaviors weird. But he's meek and acquiescing just like when he stayed in bed just because she said stay. If anything he was raped by her.

Also earlier he wanted to go home while she was acting weird, so she made up the dead dad story to get into his pants. Had the story gone the way Bear wanted, he wouldve drove home, never told nikki how he felt and just keep living a life of unrequited love. But Nikki manipulated her way into his pants.

I'm glad the Odyssey killed all the Obsession spamming threads

>>221985578
The evidence he is evil is that he didn't immediately kill himself instead of fucking a woman one more time.
So basically yes he's evil but only to feminists and 4chan.

>>221985578
No. He didn't know and once he did he tried to save her
She was also a demon who coerced him into sex. She raped him

>>221985578
No he wasn't evil. He was lonely. His cat died. And all he had left was love for his friend. But he was much too scared to confess to her. He didn't honestly believe the wish would work. It was just a stupid gimmick item from a gift shop. But once it did and he tried to stop it he was faced with a fucked up choice to actually end it. Either he or her would have to die to stop it. Everyone blames Bear, but he wasn't the one that made the wish work. And he wasn't the one that set the terms for how to dispel it

>>221985641
Would you WANT your wife to die for you?

>>221985934
indeed. the true villain is metaphorically and literally Curry Baker (who also plays the voice on the phone) and his sloppy writing

>>221985578
He's played by a fag, so yes.

>>221985578
He’s a bitch but calling him an evil rapist is hyperbolic & distaff

>>221985578
>Was Bear evil?

Yes, Reddit told me I'm an incel chud for even considering the possibility that he isn't.

>>221985578
Who gives a fuck this movie was dogshit

>>221985641
She was very obviously, at very least, having some kind of massive psychotic episode. It's pretty fucked up to take advantage of her in that state while showing basically no concern for getting her any help.

>>221985734
No? She's a hero. So is Baron.

>>221985990
It’s a bad look to come off that entitled to where you’re laughing mid interview about the possibility you’d choose anything other than yourself in a situation between you or your husband. Women are never beating selfish allegations.

>>221985578
The whole premise is jank because the writer isn't that good.
The audience are mostly self serving retards who live to judge yet are blind to their hypocrisy.

>>221986149
They've always been more valuable than men, until birth control made us "equal".

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I can't help but wonder about the damage this movie did to the image of men, and how it legitimized the bashing of them for not being powerful, resilient and tough 100% of the time, as if men didn't already have to deal with a whole lot of shit

his only crime was caring too much.

>>221986209
For procreation, everything else is determined by men.

>>221986235
Luckily you don’t ever have to worry about anyone expecting that stuff from you fren, you’re all good

>>221986235
>I can't help but wonder about the damage this movie did to the image of men
near 0
men are numb to this sort of thing in 2026. It's business as usual for western world and the red pill has been circulating mainstream for at least a decade now. Gynocentric society is literally eating itself alive.

>>221986235
Zoomer men have already given up. One more drop of demoralization is pissing into an ocean of piss.

Jannies really are desperate for any level of engagement for this dying board and website, huh?

>>221986141
That's not true. You are kinda a bitch if you ask for a break up after your gf had some psychotic episode.

>>221987372
Thats stupid. Having a gf is about improving your own life. She can fuck u and suck your dick and cook you stuff and raise your children. If shes making your life worse, such as by having psycho episodes that serious like trying to stab you or something, then logically you break up with her.

>>221987372
lmao???

>>221985578
yeah, they made it pretty obvious he knew nikki was trapped in her own body.
the reason he couldnt "undo" the wish is because he preferred her that way, but couldnt admit to it because hes a coward.
the whole point of the movie is that bear isnt honest with his feelings and that keeps snowballing into more problems that eventually destroy himself and the people around him.

>>221987430
That's up to you how much you value the relationship I guess. However, that isn't rape nor "taking advantage" of anyone. That's an insane criteria for sexual assault.

He should have killed Nikki and lived with the consequences of his actions.

He honestly should have gotten a spine, fucked the absolute shit out of the demon or whatever and then slapped her after he nutted and said
>quit ur shit and act like a perfect gf already

That'd have solved everything. Instead he let her outright dictate the whole relationship even though SHE was suppose to be in love with HIM.

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>>221986665
The average zoomer guy already knows about the blackpill and hypergamy, this movie and women's reactions to it are merely providing more fuel to the fire

>>221985847
Goydysee spam is more annoying than Obsession spam.

>>221987372
>You’re not a real man if you can’t handle me being a ginormous pain in your ass to where I could have to call the cops or separate myself from you for our safety
Simps need to be thrown into a pit of alligators, I’d laugh as you had your bones snapped in a gator roll

HOW THE FUCK DID THE CAT OPEN THE PILL BOTTLE

>>221985578
Yes he raped and took abuse on Nikki

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>>221988370
Cats can do many things.

>>221988389
Saar please

>>221985578
Nah

>>221985578
No. He was just retarded.

>>221985578
>simp
Yes

>>221985578
Guilt presupposes mens rea. He could not have known in advance what his wish would entail, therefore no.

>>221985578
Yes. The weakest, most pathetic kind.

>>221986282
Yes, by the men in control. And those men have decided women are more important than you.

>>221988944
So women’s “value” is arbitrary & can change should say men suddenly say enough of the “equality”? Doesn’t seem very valuable if it’s conditional

>>221987899
Indeed. What the fuck was that about the cat lmfao.

>>221989076
>So women’s “value” is arbitrary & can change should say men suddenly say enough of the “equality”?
Not men as a group, only the men in charge. And they benefit by you being at the bottom so that's not gonna happen any time soon.

Finally watching this on streaming and I have to say unironically...

If you identify with Bear you need to take swift action in your life. Bear is a coward living under self imposed torture, but Bear could have had a very different life if he was just man enough to take it. Everyone was saying "Nikki asks him if he likes her" but she does everything short of throw herself on top of him. Like he can't even tell her his cat is dead, trying too hard to act cool instead of being honest.

When the friend said "you've had seven years" at the beginning, I immediately thought of every oneitis story I ever read on /b/...the male friend was an asshole though, purposefully sabotaged Bear the entire time. If you know people like that, start making distance.

>>221985847
Odyssey is popcorn capeshit.

>>221988389
Yeah it's rape. he fucked her while she was on the strongest drug (magic).

>>221989355
It’s a yes or no question. Women’s value is arbitrarily decided by men?

>>221989959
Yes everythings value is arbitrarily decided by whoever decides to rank their value. One mans trash is another mans treasure and all that.

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Why did she feed him the cat though? Like, that's not gonna make him love you more?

>>221990020
Maybe it's a rite of marriage in the ninth circle of hell

>>221989987
But some value is innate such as reproducing since if we didn’t value it that leads to the extinction of humanity. Problem is the way we “value” reproduction isn’t necessarily determinant on the respect or value of women themselves which is what I was getting at.

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>>221990213
They actually turned the men into pigs for that scene.

>>221990244
Sabrina Carpenter if she Odyssey

he was a fool of a took. should have stopped simping and went off to community college or something

>>221985847
I saw this movie today and it was okay. I think the diolog around it over hyped it for me

No he's just a pussy

>>221985578
The only evil one was Freaky Nikki. Well, arguably. Maybe her evil behavior is considered normal from wherever she/it originates.

>>221990213
They didn't have to use CGI because all men are already pigs.

>>221987372
Some of you motherfuckers took "you don't deserve me at my best if you can't handle me at my worst" WAY too close to heart.

>>221985578
Evil? No. More of a coward than anything. He didn't really know that the wish actually worked until weeks after. At that point it was more trying to fix it while keeping the status quo. He was about to take his life to save her but chickened out right before. If he was evil I think he wouldn't have bothered.