we wuz conquerors editionprev >>221998685
>>222002058>OP picrelKek.
TAOOB-AAACK!
He is my all time favorite character
>>222002085How exactly did this do no damage? Harwin Strong is supposed to be his dad. You know, breakbones. Did it pass over or what.
>>222002058Heil Ormund
>>222002058OP here. use this thread for now >>222002055
>>222002136His dad is actually Criston.Targ genes win out over most families. But we know Dornish genes can override them because that's why Baelor Breakspear had black hair. Criston is decribed as Dornish-looking. His genes would override Targ genes. There is no indication that Strong's riverland genes would.
>>222002058>Balerion, the biggest drive-by vehicle in the world
>>222000805luke is icsh
>Corlys: Boring, does nothing>Addam: Boring, does nothing>Alyn: Boring, does nothing>Rhaena: Boring, does less than nothing>Baela: Boring, does nothingIf they wanted to have blacks in their show couldn't they have made at least one of them fun instead of literally all of them being dour, boring, miserable, do nothing whiners?
>>222002436I deserve a queen with big milkers and a dragon and dragon visions
>>222002182Heil Ormund
>>222002436How can they have made a Tits & Dragons show, cast her, but not given her full frontal nudity scenes? It's bad enough that Olivia Cooke didn't get one but she's an established actress. No Mily Alcock? No Emily Carey? For shame
>>222002058we were conquerors
>>222002510you lost, chud
>>222002772imoutochads, we won
>here's your young cersei
>>222002510>You‘ll have only Aemond‘s cock, and you‘ll like it
>>222003429Provided that cock is sheathed in a big titty Harrenhal witch I have no objection to that. Let a thousand blossoms bloom. But I won't accept that we got 18 year old Emily Carey on HBO playing a broodmare who seduces a king and we didn't see any titty.
Just be happy with Arland's massive flaccid benis on Dunk
>>222002310season 1 bran is icsh
>>222003963Arlan knighted Dunk using his massive schlong and Dunk's still not sure if it counts.
>>222002058SHEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTT!
>>222002136Aemond has the power of the seven and anime by his side
I've never read Fire and Blood, does it only go up to a certain point in the Targ history? Since GRRM is apparently working on another Fire and Blood I'm just curious what that would cover.
>>222005818Yes, from the conquest to the end of Aegon III's regency.
>>222005818It goes to the regency of Aegon III
>>222005818Try google
This thread is now the main one.
>>222002097His armour is one of the few cool things about this season so far
you just know they're going to make ormund die like a bitch
>>222005818Yep, up to Aegon III (rahenyra's son with daemon)It's taking long because the second part would include the Blackfyre rebellions and that's bound to be a mess to write
What house women looks like this
>>222002436
>>222005874>Nose ring>TattoosInto the trash it goes.
>>222005867It's for the best. He doesn't get to see his son corrupted
>>222005874No nobles. More of a smallfolk wench
>>222005874>nose ring>tattoosHot
>>222005873>bound to be a mess to writeHe’s not even tried to write don’t worry
>>222005899Saera Targaryen would be full of shitty doodle tattoosHonestly so would Rahenyra
>>222005874Dornish Marches
>>222005818I hope we get Blood and Fire one day because I wanna know how it ends for Alys and Aemond's son. I actually wonder of HotD will touch on that or if they'll just leave the plotline unresolved.
I miss the better times.
>>222005873It would also include the random ass conquest of Dorne under Daeron I and his Tyrell enforcer Lyonel and his butt buddy pedophile friend Alyn
>>222005921>respawning dornishment hostsOh yeah, that too
>>222005896George did this solely to make most of the Reach descended from his favourite Targ
if Vissy T wasn't such a shit father who spent all his time playing with his Valyrian lego set then Aegon would have been the GOAT kinghe should have explained better to Larys that it's not his fault but his dad's
>>222005937I thought he did it to explain Valyrian features in Alerie and Lynesse Hightower. Reason I say this is because Ormund's eldest son had six children as did Garmund. I'm certain they're going to marry their six kids together to have a solid reasoning why Hightowers 170 years later have some features
>>222005818Roughly goes up to around when Viserys II comes back and Aegon III begins to rule himself. So it would be>The rest of Aegon III rule>Daeron I>Baelor>Viserys II>Aegon IV>Daeron II>Aerys I>Maekar>Aegon V>Jaehaerys II>Aerys II Since Gyldayn apparently was alive during Roberts rule. There's a lot of ground to cover.
>>222005896A flithy barbarian WHORE seduced a pure and vulnerable Hightower sensitive young man.....Look at all those kids... she must have been a revolting succubus in bed.... a lustful creature from the seven hells....
>>222005873>>222005921How long is the secret siege again? I'm trying to remember other event that would be significant. The Peake uprising?
>>222005975Otto and Alicent also made no effort to train him. I don't get the idea of guys like Tywin and Otto wanting dumb puppet kings when they're focused on maintaining the bloodline on the throne, what happens when they die?
>>222005896How mad do you think Daemon would get if he knew his daughter was getting fucked by a Hightower every night?
>>222005977They wouldn’t just straight marry all their kids togetherThere’s still about four generations separating Rhaena and someone like Alerie, I doubt that the Valyrian features could be maintained.
Who's the most unbiased source?>Mushroom>Eustace>Munkun>Gyldayn
>>222006026Tywin actually does want a puppet King His preference is literally Rhaegar the dreamer to fuck off all day as he works as Hand
>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
>>222006026Tywin didn't want his heirs to be dumb, he forced jaime to study his dyslexia awayIt's just that his heirs were dumb, except tyrion whom he fucking hated
>>222006044It's just a theory of mine. I think that's why he made both sons randomly explicitly have six kids.Of course it might be BS
>>222005977The Hightowers Valyrian features came from like 8 thousand years before the dance dude
>>222005989There’s no way that’s fitting in one book I guess it could work if you looked at it as blocksAegon III Part 2Daeron IBaelorViserys IIAegon IVDaeron IIAerys IMaekarAegon VJaehaerys IIAerys II
>>222006088That's the common sentiment I believe George doesn't like that early Awoiaf thing anymore because it takes away from how special Valyrians areDefinitely still obviously a possibility
>>222006026Aegon becoming king was a complete fluke because Rhaenyra was on Dragonstone preparing for childbirth when Viserys died, he wasn’t raised with the expectation of ruling
>>222006105Oh you can fit it easily you just have to write a bit less detail about it.
>>222005874I thought that was a midget with a gut from the thumbnail desu
George just confirmed he’s not working on the main series right now….
>>222006105Here’s how i would do it >novella about Aegon iiis later reign. finish the arcs of the Daeron pretenders, alys in harrenhal and unwin peake>break format of fire and blood to write the Lives of 4 kings by maester kaeth covering daeron the young dragon to daeron ii >blood and fire part 2 covering Aerys to Robert
>>222006158Woooow I didn't expect that at all!
How come there's no good asioaf games?
>>222006176What the fuck could the game be about?Also>CK3 AGOT
>>222006176Crusader Kings
>>222006176>99% of players chose to fuck their sister
>>222006176Westeroscraft isn't out yet.
>>222006189Open world rockstar style Hedge knight simulator
>>222006189>CK3Yikes.
>mfw I'm waiting for Lord Ormund to finally give the order to go rapin'
>Sunset found her getting raped in the grass, rapefully. Every rape was more rapeful than the one before, and smelled rapier. By the time the moon came up she was the raped."
Myrcella the unmoggable
If they do go beyond the three currently published Dunk and Egg books how long of a wait would it be for Dexter to be old enough to keep playing Egg?
>>222006171Oh yeah and viserys ii is the pov of the Aegon iii novel
>>222006231He can age with the events1 season per year means by the time he becomes an adult knight they can get a good 10 seasons
>>222006176
>>222006231anon... we went through this exact same song with GOTGeorge won't finished any new Dunk and Egg stories, he's now a lazy grifter trying to hack out any onscreen adaptations of work to distract people before he dies and goes to hell
>>222006230Jon Snow disagrees
>>222006230Insipid
>>222006158yeah because he's finished with the books. I'm thinking that they'll be released after his death as a final gift to his fans.
>>222006230Myrcella the ubeatable
>>222006305Holy cope
>>222006325She tanked that
>>222006273I'm talking about the show not the books, I'm not stupid.
>>222006325>>222006350My theory is that Myrcella's "golden shroud" is actually a veil that hides her disfigured face. She will survive the series.
>>222006211Never heard of this but neat idea if it ever gets finished. They must be autistic as fuck about it though if they've been working on it since 2011 and only 60% done.
>Bran invites Howland to Winterfell and Howland is the only lord in the entire north who doesn't even bother answering. Even Ramsay politely declined.>Ned is arrested in the south and Howland does nothing>Ned is killed in the south and Howland does nothing>Robb commands men to stay and guard Moat Cailin>Howland never once support those men>Victarion though sails up the Fever River, abandons the Iron Fleet completely unguarded, and then marches 50 miles through the Neck to attack Moat Cailin. At no point does Howland attack them on the river, their unguarded fleet (which the Dustins and Ryswells immediately burn when they attack the ironborn), during their march, or when they're busy attacking Robb's garrison>does nothing when they leave Moat Cailin, march through the Neck, and then sail out the Neck again>Jojen and Meera arrive in Winterfell to swear fealty. Except Robb isn't in Winterfell. Howland needs to swear fealty to the new king or grant his children that authority, of which there's no proof he ever did. It's a false fealty>does nothing when Rodrik calls the banners to deal with the ironborn at Torrhen's Square>Howland does nothing when Luwin sends out word that Winterfell has fallen>does nothing when Rodrik calls for aid to retake Winterfell>does nothing when Rodrik's army is destroyed by the Boltons>does nothing when Sansa is forced to marry Tyrion Lannister>does nothing when Sansa is accused of killing Joffrey>does nothing when Robb, Catelyn, and the northern army is slaughtered by the Freys>does nothing when the Frey and Bolton armies head north through the Neck>does nothing when Stannis sends out requests for aid>does nothing when Stannis frees Deepwood Motte>does nothing when Roose announces that Ramsay is going to marry Arya Stark>does nothing when Stannis marches on Winterfell to free Aryawhat's his fucking problem?
>>222006305Yep, he finished winds and dream and now he’s just chilling and working on dunk and egg until the sunset. He did it. But he knows he’ll face hell for the things he put the beloved characters through because everyone is insane now over fictional characters
>>222002436Snailtappers are you ready? Get set Go!
>>222006380He saved Ned's ass and got nothing for itPattern recognition
>>222003356That’s Theophaeny Targaryen. She gets high to have dreamer visions.
>>222006413This guy's supposed to have a fat big cock
>>222006325>we were supposed to get punished Ned Dayne after he spent 5 years in Riverlands hell seeing the atrocities of the Lannisters and fighting with Beric and Stoneheart>dipshit GRRM removes the timeskip>now we get cringe darkstar to replace Ned's role what the fuck was GRRM thinking?
>>222006385I unironically could see a tranny going to Santa Fe to literally murder George for killing off dany
>>222005874House Wakowski
Don't worry goys, Game of Thrones: The Mad King very soon!
>>222005874>those saggers
>>222006007Alys Rivers in Harrenhal, Baelor's shenanigans, post-Daeron I Dorne stuff, great spring sickness, Dagon "the last reaver" Greyjoy, probably extra focus on the war of the ninepenny kings, defiance of Duskendale and other Aerys II stuff
>>222006454Is that picrel new?
>>222006412>save Ned and promise to keep Jon's secret out of love for Lyanna>assume Ned will set him up with something decent>find out Ned lets Jon throw his life away at the Wallwould actually be interesting if Howland sandbagged because he was pissed at Ned
>>222006423>what the fuck was GRRM thinking?He wasn’t and now the series is ruined
What’s the Twitter consensus on Aegon? Are they still mad at him for possibly raping a random girl and opposing girlboss Rhaenyra?
Darkstar should have known Jaime Lannister's daughter wouldn't be an easy target
George's brain friedSeries died
>>222006483ThisHe is unironically so old I doubt he can produce anything reasonable anymore
>george bragging how he's writting another Dunk novelaWORK ON FUCKING WINDS
>>222006478Yes but he's now got a niche little fandom because of his hilarious acting in season 2
>>222006516source?!
>>222006286That was before she was recast.
>>222006516No, I would prefer winds but dunk is achievable, he simply cannot finish a giant tome right now, shorter stories is all he can manage
>>222006483>>222006508The series is all done. He doesnt want to release it.
I want to cum inside Visenya
>>222006516The Dunk and Egg novellas are about 30K words a popIf he cannot write 30K words of a largely self contained story in six months it is totally over
>>222006544We should kidnap the fat fuck he gave his consent
>>222006370Thanks ms flapjacks. Witch was just fucking with Cersei. She got her kids killed by her own stupidity .
>>222006478General consensus is that his character arc is good, but all praise has to be followed by "but I still hate him because he's a rapist".
>>222006566He was "working on it" years ago already, it's over anon, it's fucking over
>>222006422Just like George irl.
Hail House Frey and Manderly, consistently the biggest chads in Westeros throughout the generations
I know there a lot of Anti AI troons on this board but you realize we are a few years away from AI being able to write anything better than George ever could have? You will be able to upload everything George ever wrote and have it finish or even ask it to write alternate storylines and change events to see different outcomes. We don't need the fat fuck.
>>222006556a lowborn like you couldn't handle her and she would get someone to cum inside you for even suggesting it
>>222006632Terrible examplesThis council is the worst in existence
>>222006508It's okay, I'll just be content with my own CK2 ending.
>>222006652They are the biggest chads in House of the Dragon and supremely based
>>222006483this is what people refuse to accept, people cope about the fear of him outright dying but the reality is that he's way past his prime mentally at his age. He was struggling 20 years ago when he was still sharp, his brain is flat out not capable of finishing the series at this point. He needs to accept using a ghostwriter instead of being a faggot>>222006516he already struggled with perfectionism and after this long of a delay it will never live up to the hype so he's never going to release it. Good news is he doesn't have a kid like Tolkien who cares about his legacy, so his estate will let somebody finish it for the money
Aemondgods….its happening…
>>222006651Oh trust me I'd never try if I wasn't Targaryen myselfIf not I would manage to get rich enough to buy a Lyseni bed warmer who can larp as her
>>222006478Was that girl really sad that the prince fooled around with her or was it because he got her preggo and now she’s going to lose her job. Hard to believe Aegon has to rape anyone and can’t get by with the crowns gold and Bill Clinton charisma.
>>222006672>Aegon gets to dunk on his enemy, but her bloodline wins over his >daemon gets to dunk on his enemy but his bloodline wins over his Pottery
>>222006672ALL IN ON WHENT THEORY BOYS
>>222006584>That's the dilemma for the audience because he rapes, but he saves a lot of lives. And he saves way more than he rapes, and he only rapes to save. But he does rape.
>>222006641>few years awayNigga you can basically do that right now. GRRM isn’t some kind of autistic savant wordsmith. Any chatbot can mimic his style accurately is someone was willing to put in the time to put that shit together.
>>222006672>makes a toast to his nephews>kills a toddler>burns his brother to a crisp>smooches his mom and his sis>gets downed by a butter knife>gets groomed by a stinky witch>wins
>>222006679Aegon has no rizz. Outside of his yes men Brad friends not a single serious character likes him even in the slightest. His closest family, brother, wife, and even mother all despise him. His father didnt even take him seriously. He is a genuinely bad person and deserves no sympathy.
>>222006641Who the fuck wants to read the words of a machine? It's meaningless. Call me a fag but books are a way for people to communicate. Martin might be a fat retard but it's his story I'm interested in, not an algorythm's prediction of the most likely way it ends.
>>222006713I want someone to ask fatfuck at his next press event or q&a how does he feel knowing he will never finish the series and it will most likely be wrapped up by AI?
>>222006672TOTAL GREEN VICTORY
>>222006745You realize most of us here are just bots right?
>>222006737The smallfolk love him and ge made genuine effort to help them in every scene he held court with them
>>222006641ai won't be able to create the subtle imagery that's everywhere in the books, things like the blue winter rose at the wall symbolizing Lyanna would end up being something else entirely by being too obvious. I'd still read it because the macro stuff might be interesting though
>>222006672Condalsama…I kneel…
Are we getting Gwayne as the angel and Ormund as the devil on Daeron's shoulders?
>Stark children are actually secret Targ bastard decendents.This is some Harry Potter tier shit. Why does anyone want this?
>>222006672My ancestor.
>>222006672>cat was a BASTARD the whole timecat bros... our cope!?
>>222006750He’s actually super against AI. There was a website called character AI where people made chatbots of popular characters. GRRM is one of the only people to try to protect his intellectual property by ordering the website to remove all the chatbots based on his creations.
>>222006766No you're all figments of my imagination, that's different because it's me communicating with the voices in my head.
>>222006811Aemond and Alys married ok
>>222006672more like house COPE!
>>222006815I know that’s why it’d be even more kino if he was confronted with that fact and he will have no power to stop it since he couldn’t be fucked to finish the books, not even the dunk series.
>>222006737He could stumble up to a girl, stutter and drop his spaghetti and the majority of girls would still want to fuck him because he's a handsome and exotic prince.
>>222006737He’s rich, or rather his daddy’s rich, that’s all you need. And magic dragon blood. In the books there’s whores and small folk lining up to get themselves a valyrian bastard.
>>222006830Remember that R+L=J isn't canon to the books either It's precedent to just confirm the unknown for HBO
>>222006641Some dude had an AI write Winds and Spring years ago and got a cease and desist for his trouble.The start of this year a guy showed up to /lit/ claiming to have read the manuscript for Winds and posted a summary. Having read that summary, it was obviously AI.The future is now.
>>222006737I like him, he is magnanimous and never gives up.
test
>>222006877You failed. Off to the Wall with you.
>>222006864There is nothing canon about hotd. It will only be canon if grrm release f&b 2.
>>222006731>>222006753>green bloodline ended the White Walker threatDabid and Dan redeemed, although people theorized it even before that considering Arya's association with the Others due to Jon and Faceless Men(magic cult obsessed with death and anti-slave origins) grooming her for unknown reasons>>222006797EVERYONE is a targ chuddie
>>222006797being half Trout isn’t a total loss
*blocks your path*
>>222006737the smallfolk love himand so do I
>>222006856>he's a handsomeMaybe once
in this AI discussion though there would have to be some sort of official version or else it's basically like reading random fanfic
>>222006870>>222006774Aegon should be the unlikely hero of the story. It was all there on the pages. GRRM has no balls.
>>222006901*stabs you with butter knife*
>>222006908He doesn’t have a cock anymore he’s not going to “rape” anyone again.
>>222006917This is the green central and that's the only W they will catch
>>222006908He doesn't look bad for someone half-burnt. Better than Niggaryons.>but his dick was burntI would show him the joys of prostate orgasm.
>>222006774>>222006907>The smallfolk love him
If Luke apologized and just talked to Aemond would things have went down differently or was Aemond too autistic to ever calm down?
>>222006907I hope he actually tries to reconcile with Rhaenyra before killing her. It would show that he’s grown.
>>222006931*mommy milks me and makes it all better*
>>222006941Where there's a will there's a rape. He's still got fingers, and toes, and a tongue. He can insert objects into people, you're very unimaginative.
>>222006975>and a tongueNOOOOO Your Grace pls don't lick my dick
>>222006957Luke was an arrogant smug little puss protected by his mother from facing consequences If he wanted to live apologizing is the first thing he should have done immediately. However he would have to give something in return to actually settle the blood debt.
>>222006957Aemond didnt gave a shit about luke when they met borros BUT one of the rejected baratheon girls lmaoed @ his life and he went full incel and killed luke
Queen of bastards !
>>222006737Is it weird that I relate/sympathize so much with Aegon? I know he’s not meant to be a likable character in the least, but I feel so bad for him as well. I know he’s basically a trust fund kid who had an ‘easy life’ so most people hate him out of principle. But at the same time the trust fund kid can also be starving for love and no one ever really sympathizes with him because of how lucky people think he is.
>>222006957Luke was too much of a BASTARD to ever apologize or fight him like a man
>>222007001Foids are so fucking evil
How the fuck does Dragonstone even work? Is it really just a tiny rocky island with just the castle? Maybe some caves. No village? No fields/lifestock? How many people live there and where do they get their food and ressources?It doesnt make much sense to me
>>222006997Idk how it went in the books but Aemond had a rock in the show and was clearly ready to kill Jace. Luke was only protecting his brother.
>>222007004No, that's the contrast of him. You actually understand the character unlike all the midwits.
>>222006864anyone who isn't a brainlet or contrarian knew it was canon>Ashara Dayne is an obvious red herring early in the first book>if Jon's mom was her or some random chick there's no reason for Ned to not tell Jon>no reason for him to chimp out at Catelyn and tell her to never ask about Jon's mother
>>222006996Next he's going to slather you in dragon pheromones and cheer as Sunfyre bums you
>>222006925He basically dies as the only heroic character in the entire story
>>222006957Even with a big ass dragon it feels like it would be out of character for him to insult Daemon’s half velaryon daughter. These little snot nosed punks would shit themselves trying to claim Vhaegar. This dragon literally incinerated her mother by command. She would have taken ages to claim it.
>>222007035In book the island is larger and has villages. If it was that small Aegon and Sunfyre couldn't hide there, nor could that dragon Sunfyre ate.
>>222007004>>222007053If you went to school with Aegon he would make fun of you for being a poor nerd.
>>222007035there are villages on the island but the shows never showed them
>>222007040Doesn't matter. They started ganging up on him and then took his eye.Blood debt. He needs to give something >>222007058I'm aware. Just technically speaking.
>>222007035In the books the island is bigger and there is a villageAnyways, you can easily keep a castle like that stocked with supplis coming by sea, that's not a big problem
>>222007026Bitch ended up joining the silent sisters because nobody wanted her.
>>222007035Just show retardation. Dragonstone is meant to be a pretty large island with multiple fishing villages and a sizeable port town near its castle.
>>222007058>knew it was canonIf it's not written down and published then it isn't canon
>>222007004Hard to believe Otto is this bad at manipulating him. Try a different approach next time, killing the rat catchers wasn’t that bad and Aegon framed them as prince slaying traitors. He lost all his power because he ain’t even a 1/10th of the statesmen Tywin will be.
>>222007109>If it's not written down and published then it isn't canonPeople cracked the code way before the tv show was even released.
>Ormund when Corlys walks his stinky Valyrian ass into his Tumbleton chambers for a parlay:
>>222007035They eat fish, duh
Will we get 1 more momcest scene before the season ends?And yes, Aemond and Alys sex scene would be considered momcest since she's fulfilling that fantasy for him
>>222007035its not tiny, its got entire communities, towns, etc.the show just doesnt show it
>>222007122Otto knew that Larys can warg into rats and would be unstoppable if not for the ratcatchers.
>>222007035>That one Season 7 episode where they have Dany walk up all the way up to the throne room for 10 minutes
>>222007129Perhaps, perhaps not, but until the code is revealed in the series then it's still very much up in the air, especially with an author (air quotes) like Martin.
>>222007142We can hope but unfortunately unlikely
>>222007142NoBut the scene I need is Aegon and Aemond finding out Alicent sold them out
>>222007035it was a shitty military outpost subsidized by the Valyrians originally. Targs bought it and probably had enough gold to just buy most stuff. The only real income seems to be fishing and maybe miningit's a shithole that has some military value but without the crown providing support it would be dirt poor. If the Targs weren't low IQ inbreds they probably could have turned it into a trading hub like the Veleryons did
>>222007142So fucking hot. Asian jewesses are mental yo.
>>222007035its supposed to be somewhere between Elba and Malta sized
>>222006890>But I have powerful friends in this thread!
>>222007165>but until the code is revealed in the series then it's still very much up in the airAll the information is right there and that's why he told d&d about it, fAegon is another example.
>>222007179>Aegon and Aemond reconcile and unite in their hatred of foids>they rape Rhaenyra together
>>222006672>you guise, everyone who existed around the gods eye within the span of a century are secretly relatedThis is one of the stupidest theories around, and unlike something like the theory about Tyrion being a product of heteropaternal superfecundation who ate his twin it doesn't have the benefit of being amusing but is just the product of a extremely simple mind. I'm not surprised that the amoebas writing for house of the dragon choose it for their barely sapient audience.
>>222007204A moment of pure green bonding
>>222007183I imagine they got a tribute system with some nearby westerosi settlements after showboating their dragons. Probably had to burn a couple morons, but they were set otherwise.
>>222007183>The only real income seems to be fishing and maybe miningAnd a thriving rape industry, which funnily enough was how the Conquest started. You see, they were exporting so much rape that the mainland started putting up tariffs and then moved to complete sanctions so to secure their former markets, and keep their economy afloat, the Targs just had to invade while their window of economic viability was still open.
>>222007204
>>222007203>All the information is right there and that's why he told d&d about it, fAegon is another example.Cool, then I look forward to reading about it all in the Winds of Winter and a Dream of Spring...
>>222007245Same.
>>222007207Tyrion is the product of a hot and kind blonde baddie and the fujo jealousy/admiration between Tywin and Aerys.
>1000 Worlds: abandoned>ASoIaF: abandoned>Dunk & Egg: abandoned>Fire & Blood: abandoned>Not a Blog: abandonedAnd now the shakespear play has been repeatedly canceled as well. It's truly over for Gurrm.https://youtu.be/QDXsn0kog-o?is=uxhTBwOXY14b8CfT
>>222007224No rape was involved. Peasants were hungry to be fed dragon seed
>>222007207I agree but its also kinda hilarious so I'm fine with it
>>222007262I hate this theory personally If Tyrion is a bastard then what exactly is Tywin doing wrong by saying he's not inheriting shit That's only reasonable. Him treated badly is more than reasonable
So the Night's Watch for hundreds of years has just been a glorified penal colony that only looks out beyond the Wall? Do they work on generating resources that the crown could use? All of that manpower and they simply sit on their asses on a frozen block of ice?
>>222007262T + A = T
Is Harrenhal actually cursed? And more importantly, is it on the table?
>they took away Cristons death from the book>dies fighting insteadlove to see TB lose
>>222007301It's a stupid ass theory that only exists to pull a "gottem" on tywinIt has 0 narrative value for tyrion or his arc, and it doesn't make sense for Tywin to keep the child.
>>222007311>the aerys rectum to joanna womb traveling fetus theorySomething you'd find online argued completely unironically 10 years ago, when people still cared
>>222007179They'll never learn about it because if they did it might reflect badly on Alicent (a woman). Aegon might figure it out just before drinking the poisoned wine she gives him.
>>222007308>All of that manpowerI thought the issue was that they have no manpower, they can't garrison all the castles on the wall, they can utilise the Gift and the New Gift to it's full potential (not that land at the extremity of the kingdom would be useful to the kingdom as a whole, other than allowing the Watch in it's proper enlarged size to remain self sufficient), the organisation has been in decline since the Conquest.
>>222007301The science is too complicated for Westeros to be real, but he’s still a 1/4 Tywin even if he’s also a 1/4th Aery’s right? This can only be confirmed if he can tame a dragon. Cersei and Jaime are more likely to be half Aery’s because of Cersei’s mental retardation and love of fire.
>>222006672Honestly I'd be willing to forgive the showrunners for a single mid sized blunder they've commited in any prior episode if they made Aemond-Whent theory real and thus made Bran and Arya part Targ, thereby making the prophecy make marginal amounts of sense.I'd be willing to forgive another medium blunder in exchange for making Jaehera Aegon III's only wife and the mother of his children since that's a more fitting endingWhich would still leave my overall rating of the show very negative
>>222007331Tyrion was originally supposed to get a dragon in the early drafts when Jaime was supposed to be one of the final villains.
>>222007301Jaime and Cersei being Aerys would be better thematically. Tywin's pride and joy the actually Aerys, which explains the incest and Cersei's love for wildfire. And the irony of Tywin hating Tyrion despite him being his only kid and the one most like him
>>222007377I don't like any secret Targaryen theory. We got Jon for that.As for Cersei being retarded. I don't think Targaryens run a monopoly on mental illness. Maybe Cersei is a mentally ill moron because her parents are cousinsIf you're forcing me to take a pick then yes I prefer The Twins being Aerys' to Tyrion
>>222007377>This can only be confirmed if he can tame a dragon.Except it's implied that non Targs can ride dragons
>>222007308It’s a gift to the north to maintain their furthest insecure border.
>>222007405The early drafts are not to be taken seriously for reasons such as Jaime becoming the final villain
>>222007405Somehow less retarded than Tyrion doing cartwheels
>>222007414If I have to pick then yes the twins being it are thematically better
My favourite part of asoiaf theories is how everyone and their mother is secretly a Targaryen except the one kid who openly claims to secretly be a Targaryen.
>>222007445thats pottery
>>222007308There's lots of weird stuff about the NW if you think too long about it: What do they do all day? What's even the point of ranging? How are wildling raiders a problem when there's a 700m or whatever sheer ice cliff. Why are rangers, builders and stewards called seperate "orders"? Why don't the NW just mutinee en mass and take the ships they own to fuck off. Etc.
>>222007405Rhaenyra's story was meant to parallel and foreshadow Cersei's fate where she flees KL to Casterly Rock only to find out Tyrion got there first on a dragon. The chapter would end with him dropping his pants.Now gurm wrote too much about the Dance making the parallel too obvious and a rip-off and can't figure out another ending.
>>222007308they were a powerhouse until the Targs fucked everything up. Before the Conquest they had every castle manned and over 10K menit's one of the reasons the whole Aegon's prophecy dream is so retarded, if they cared about some threat to the North they would have funneled gold to the Watch and gave royal favor to the Starks to strengthen the North in preparation
I don't think any of the lannisters are secretly aerys
>>222007301Tywin isn’t doing anything wrong. He is raising the child of the man who raped his wife and caused her to die instead of just killing the child. All out of love for his wife. Because when he looks into that one green eye he sees joanna
You want compromise? How's this? 15 years on 4chan. I wanted the Winds of Winter. I compromised. I watched 7 seasons of Game of Thrones. I wanted to see Stannis and Roose Bolton battle. But I compromised. I watched House of the Dragon on streaming sites. You see where I'm going?
>>222007431They recast charming as Nikolaj in shrek 5?6
>>222007473>The chapter would end with him dropping his pants.???
>>222007481Neither do I after Feast Ultimately my main concenrs about it was removed rereading AGOT when I realized Tommen's hair is described as white blonde like Tyrion's.
>>222007469>What do they do all day?What do any barracked soldiers do all day?>What's even the point of ranging? How are wildling raiders a problem when there's a 700m or whatever sheer ice cliff.To see what's going on, movements of people, the Wildlings regularly go over or around (or below/through?) parts of the Wall>Why are rangers, builders and stewards called seperate "orders"?Military bodies? Same as any other organisation> Why don't the NW just mutinee en mass and take the ships they own to fuck off.Better the devil you know, inertia is a hell of a motivator
>>222007308>>222007469Its just a glorified prison now is it not?
>>222007513Tyrion proves to be a green patriot.
>>222007492>Tywin isn’t doing anything wrongThat's one helluva way of looking at it
>>222007501>7 seasons of Game of Throne>7
>>222007469>What do they do all day?Sleep with Mole Town's whores and Satin.
>>222007473Damn at least book Tyrion is going to get to rape his hot sister too. It’s not fair only Jaime got to hit also is his cock still deformed from her twisting it as a baby?
>>222007536I just meant the not inheriting part
>>222007543for some reason I thought the final season was 2 parts
>>222007481Tywin is secretly Aerys.The king switched places with his hand so that he could bang Joanna all day.
>>222007528I have never heard the restoration of Aegon II / Tyrion parallel before, where did you get this?
>>222007492He would still be kinslaying if he killed his cousin/wife’s kid.
>>222007558Oh well.Ultimately I subscribe to Genna's interpretation. Tyrion is Tywin 2.0
>>222007566This, also bittersteel is bloodraven and daemon is aemond
>>222007566>The Mad King was doing some Jekyll and Hyde shitDare I say...kino?
Dunkaerion is canon.
>>222007581I just put it out of my ass based on Rhaenya and Cersei parallels.
>>222007308>>222007469Kings Beyond the Wall and smaller raiding gangs have been pretty serious problems in the past, especially during winter when they get desperate. Ranging is a way to scout beyond the wall so they know what the wildlings are up to, and to strike deals and divide and conquer.But in large part it's mostly just tradition, which is important to Westerosi. Many nobles don't take the institution seriously, but there's always been a Night's Watch, it's a convenient place do dump undesirables and exiles, they're doing something somewhat useful so why get rid of it?
>>222007553>SatinNah nah nah, he’s Lord Snow‘s personal whore
>>222007520Stark honor would mean they would be hunted across planetos until all of them are dead
>>222007231>there's an imposter among ussus desu
>>222007599>Rahenyra wakes up>Sees Daemon hurriedly putting on an eyepatch and running out of the red keep
>>222007604>the worst Dunk shipDunk/Baelor and Dunk/Daemon are canon.
>>222007469>What do they do all day?Chop wood, hunt game, range for wildlings or bandits/deserters, train men-at-arms and archers, infrastructure maintenance and construction, recruitment like Yoren, scribing and studying for the maesters and their stewards>What’s even the point of ranging?Guard the Wall from threats, catch deserters, hunt game, survey the land.>How are wildling raiders a problem when there's a 700m or whatever sheer ice cliff.The wall can be climbed, as evidenced in the show and books.>Why are rangers, builders and stewards called seperate "orders"?They perform separate functions. Rangers leave, stewards stay.>Why don't the NW just mutinee en mass and take the ships they own to fuck off.They did in the show and I’m sure they have in the past but they get stomped down by rest of the Watch, the Warden of the North or even the Crown.
>>222007431the outline is still like 90% accurate, just some shuffling of characters and new ones added. But the core elements are all still there>Winterfell still torched, instead of Tyrion it's the Boltons>Jon leaving the Watch to save "Arya">Jaime being evil replaced with a combo of Joffrey and Cersei>Arya goes to learn magic in Braavos instead of beyond the Wall>Cat still resurrected, but by fire magic instead of beyond the wall>Sansa is still a nothingburger character whose only purpose was betraying Ned, GRRM has said recently she's still probably going to die despite the show>tyrion still exiled and hates Jaime and Cerseibasically the only major difference is Tyrion not caring about Arya, but since he was the designated cuck anyway it doesn't change anything from GRRM's endgame of Jon and Aryatake the outline pill
>>222007611>had Jon shared, his men wouldn't mutiny
>>222007628Dragon magic means caraxes can fit inside Vhaegars pocket pussy hell dimension like Russian dolls.
>>222007628Wrong Daemon. Daemon Blackfyre is Aemond who time travelled through old gods magic.
If anyone is curious about the alleged Winds of Winter Chapter summaries that got leaked on /lit/ earlier in the year here you go.
>>222007638Dunk and Aerion literally belong together. I want to see Aerion get filled to the brim with Dunk’s cum.
>>222007686
>>222007480the prophecy most likely isn't just about defeating them through strength but something more magical like targ blood or dragons
>>222007715
>>222007686>>222007715>>222007735that was leaked earlier this year?!
>>222007667>You heard of the War of Jenkins‘ Ear>Now prepare for the Mutiny of Satin‘s Bussy
>>222007615Not so much honour, as others have said that was really only introduced under Ned and Cat, but just game theory. Sure an individual rapist can defect and flee across from Eastwatch into Essos, and I'm sure that some do, but there's a lot of danger in Essos, plus it's very foreign, while prior to the current day the Watch, although unpleasant at times, was relatively *fine*. Any organised mutiny would be at threat from both a Stark intervention if they got wind of it, and intervention by the high born officer class who likely still have strong motives to maintain and enforce the duty of the Watch as their family names, those not estranged, would still be on the line. Additionally, there's likely a religious element to it, and while Martin is a big smelly modern atheist, within the setting you'd expect the vast majority of people to be true believers of their various gods and would see value in staying put.
>>222007615>>222007651They could sail to Disputed Lands and join mercenary company. Even if Starks chase them there they would have to fight the Free City that hired them.
>>222007692He was definitely there watching him drink the wildfire.
>>222007663>>Jon leaving the Watch to save "Arya">Jeyne Poole>Gene Pool…
>>222007748>Gods it was tight then
>>222007751How hard deserters are punished depends on the discretion of the Lord Commander too although if the North is under Stark control then it’ll be like ICE now kek
>>222007735
>>222007692Cope. Baelor literally called Dunk 'his man' before death. Dunk is his widow.
>>222007715>Wight Jaime People believe this dogshit?
>>222007692Is that supposed to be Dunk and Brightflame?
>>222007750Ok stark pettiness, stark rigidity, stark cuntiness, stark warg bloodthirst, stark pride.
>>222007788he had a headache and wasn't thinking clearly when he said that
>>222007611>>222007667>jon gives people positions based on merit and ignoring anything they did before taking vows, actually following the Night Watch's original values>this includes making a wildling master at arms>fags focus on Satin and imply Jon gave him the job because he's gay for him
What’s west of Westeros.
>>222007744The /litl thread was created January 1st 2026, I stumbled on it in April, copied all the posts and slapped them in a word doc.
>>222007836Westereros
>>222007836East Essos
>>222007783No one’s escaping with the stark warg hounds hunting.
>>222007839huh
>>222007692This is why faggots are hated by God.
>>222007836Do these guys know he world is round or no?
>>222007827He no longer had the mental capacity to lie...
>>222007836Yi Ti. Daemon doesn’t know the world is round so he would try going through all of Essos first. Yi Ti would catch wind of this and attack Westeros when the army and dragons are stuck in an essosi quagmire.
>>222007788>>222007804>>222007868Cope. Dunk has already mating pressed Aerion several times. It’s canon.
Here's a quick summary of it all>>222007686>>222007715>>222007735>>222007787Dany-It's her show storyline breaking the wheel and all that jazz but stops when she gets to Pentos, a few side quests in Volantis where she takes the city with the help of a slave revolt and burns a few Red Priests after some dream she concluded the Lord of Light is a demon.Stannis-Wins the Battle of Ice(Manderlys turn on the Frey), kills Ramsay, Roose escapses to the Dreadfort, Shireen gets burned by Mel without his orders with approval of Stannis' wife, kills Theon, keeps Asha prisoner as he pursues Roose, sieges the Dreadfort then leaves when he hears the Wall is overrun by the Others, his forces get decimated by the Others, he meets up with Davos and Mel, learns Mel burned Shireen, kills Mel and dies in the process due to the pair exploding into flames when he stabs her.Davos-Finds Rickon on Skagos where he's been chilling with Osha and the savages who like him since he's a warg. He returns to the North with Rickon and an army of savages, Rickon agress to acknowledge Stannis as king and becomes Lord of Winterfell, Davos bangs Osha for whatever reason, Rickon and his army siege the Dreadfort, Davos ditches him to look for Stannis, finds Stannis, witnesses him kill Mel.
>>222007914Jon-Gets resurrected as an ice wight along with Ghost, still has his faculties, goes to Winterfell with his loyal night watch bros and wildlings, meets up with Rickon who pardons him from his Night Watch duties since he died, he leaves to go fight the Others at the wall, bumps into Bran.Bran-It's his show storyline, Hold the Door, and all. When he and Meera get to the wall that now has a whole in it thanks to the Others invasion he bumps into Jon.Tyrion-It's his show storyline where he becomes Dany's advisor, after Dany conquers Volantis he gets sent to Braavos to try and convince the Iron Bank to back DanyVictarion-He helps Barristan win the battle of Meereen, tries and fails to claim a dragon using the horn, dies in the attempt.Arianne-Meets Aegon, decides he's legit, wins Dorne to his side, tries to convince him to marry her, Aegon isn't having it. Does convince him to make Dark Star one of his King's guard. Tags along with Aegon afterwards as his POV character after Jon Connington dies
>>222007768>ramsay threatens to cut out his heart and eat it>Jon ignores this and seethes while repeating "I want my bride back">Mellisandre calls Arya his heart and he doesn't deny itso many showfags cope that GRRM isn't still planning to go with the outline endgame.
>>222007906Book and page number?
>>222007914>davos cheating on his wifeI hope no one is falling for this.
>>222007940Cersei-Wins her Trial by Combat against the Faith thanks to Robert Strong, Margery dissappears with Randal Tarly before her trial, Mace confronts Cersei about it and gets killed by Robert Strong, the Tyrells abandon Tommen and join up with Aegon proposing she marry Margery, Aegon states he'll only marry after he is officially crowned. Cersei flees Kingslanding with Robert Strong and Tommen leaving booby traps. On her way to the Westerlands she burns Riverrun for the lulz, possibly killing Aunt Gemma. Arrives at the Westerlands which is getting attacked by the Ironborn led by Euron who sends a message to Cersei saying he is willing to ally with Tommen. Aeron/Euron-Euron's fleet battles the Redwyne Fleet as "loses" the Battle of Blood, Aeron dies in the battle. It is then revealed that the Hightowers have accepted Euron as king since they both worship the Great Other, they start killing Septons declaring war on the Faith and starts raiding the Reach after destroying the Redwyne Fleet.Sam-After Euron takes over Oldtown, he and Gilly flee to his old home where he runs into the Faith Miliant who have sided with Aegon, Sam and Gilly go to meet with Aegon to tell him about the OthersJon Connington/Aegon-Storm's End surrenders when they see the Targaryen banners, Aegon wins Dorne thanks to Arianne, the Reach joins him after Cersei kills Mace, Jon Connington is getting pretty crazy due to the grayscale, Aegon takes Kingslanding without firing a shot, when he gets to the Red Keep it explodes due to Cersei leaving wildfire booby traps when she left, bells starting ringing across the city due to the fires caused by the explosion, Jon Connington freaks out and stabs Aegon, then gets killed by Dark Star. Aegon survives determined to deal with Tommen before dealing with Euron and the Reach.
>>222007968Arya-Mostly training to be a Faceless man, they accept she will never truly be one of them but still want to train her, she gets sent to Voltanis to perform her final test which is to kill the High Red Priest(basically the Lord of Light pope), she kills him, then starts heading back to Braavos on the same ship as Tyrion.Sansa- Marries Harry the Heir after Sweetrobin dies in his sleep probably killed by Littlefinger. Sansa convinces Harry to turn on Littlefinger who escapes to Gulltown. Littlefinger declares for Aegon sparking a civil war in the Vale.Jaime/Brienne-Gets put on trial by Lady Stoneheart, does a trial by combat against Brienne, loses. Gets resurrected as some kind of fire wight, goes with Brienne north to White Harbor, fight a few of Aurane Water's pirates who attack White Harbor, Jaime leaves to go fight the others, Brienne goes to the Vale to find Sansa.
>>222007968>Jon Connington freaks out and stabs Aegon, then gets killed by Dark Star. Aegon survives determined to deal with Tommen before dealing with Euron and the Reach.
>>222007996he is of the night
>>222007914>kills Theon,cringe>>222007940>Does convince him to make Dark Star one of his King's guard.DANGEROUSLY FUCKING BASED
>>222007948Jon will eat Ramsay’s heartAlso Jon x Arya can’t be done anymore because Arya is nine, though it was definitely the plan
>>222007834I‘m not implying. I’m telling you: Jon and Satin had hot gay sex all over the Castle Black (occasionally Melisandre joined for threesome)
>>222002136>Harwin Strongfraud
>>222007940>Aegon isn't having itHe's a stronger man than me
>>222008053>Melisandre joinedgay
>>222008072he is waiting for dany
Why does GRRM love Arya so much?
>>222008008*he is of the knight, har har
>>222007651>>222007520I'm willing to concede on everything but the order thing. That's just a clear language error on Grrm's part. An "order" in the sense of a group of people is a (communal) brotherhood where everyone is sworn to a common set of rules (that "order" their lives"). The Night's Watch as a whole is an order, but its subdivisions are not. All those builders and stewards etc live together as brothers under the same leadership and have sworn the same oath. You could call them "branches" or whatever, but they are not different "orders".Important to note as well that in something like the historical Teutonic Order state only a minority of members were actual sworn brothers of the order. With lifelong service, chastity etc. Most members were basically staff ("serjeants").
>>222007968>-Euron's fleet battles the Redwyne Fleet as "loses" the Battle of Blood, Aeron dies in the battle. It is then revealed that the Hightowers have accepted Euron as king since they both worship the Great Other, they start killing Septons declaring war on the Faith and starts raiding the Reach after destroying the Redwyne Fleet.Fake and incredibly gay.
>>222008127>>222008127>>222008127>>222008127
>>222008118well in Westeros they're called orders so suck it up
>>222006061based
>>222008026she's almost 12 and end of series she'd be 14-15 which is nothing to GRRM
>>222008144No, I don't think I will.
>>222008114unironically she's his wife's favorite character
>>222006731He loves his little witch now.
>>222008053>occasionally Melisandre joined for threesomeAnd what of good Val?
>>222007735BOOOH!Poor form of Davos to betray dear old Marya like that.
