A man without honor editionPrevious >>222031984
Didn't expect that HOTD would make me root for a Dornishman tbqh.
>>222039059poppa bear?
Why'd she do it?
>Yeah let's give a chance to the rapist vampire lord, his rapist son, evil castle name, flayed man sigil with evil wordsStarks are retarded
>>222039223Another instance of fans making characters way cooler than they actually are
>Theon wondered what that would be like, to have a home
>>222039248Retard Theon really thought he had a shot at Sansa or Arya
>>222039235>shitty MMO/Soulsbourne edgy armor
Beneath the cope, the bitter seethe
Imprison all GreyjoysBehead all GreyjoysRaze the Iron Islands to the ground
>>222039429That you Johanna Lannister?
>>222039484>We should put every man of them to the sword, and sell their wives and children to the slavers of the east. Let the seagulls and the crabs claim those worthless rocks.Total Ironborn Death
TAOOBA
helaena could get it
>>222039059HotD is so woman coded it's crazy. Who even enjoys watching it? I exclusively hate watch it with my wife and yell at the screen every five minutes. The "my body, my choice" was the icing on this shit cake. I hate this show so much.
>>222039681Because the dance is rooted in feminism
How did Catelyn only have five kids when’s she's constantly thinking about getting pregnant and having sex with Ned?
How cool would it be if they opened an episode with “World Destruction” by Afrika Bambaataa & Jon Lydon like they did the Season 4 premier of The Sopranos
>>222039195Salieri was paying her.
>>222039423Lmao
>>222039698Explain. It's obvious in the show. It's like they took the bechdel test as a personal challenge. Every scene is just women talking to each other about inane bullshit.
>>222039761>Explain>hurrdurrhurrr how is usurping the throne because you don’t think a woman can rule related to feminismWhen was the last time you were kicked in the head by a horse?
>>222039681>Who even enjoys watching it?Me. I find it's funny to watch how retarded Blacks are.
>>222039761A women try to go against the establishment and chnge the world but the status quo prevails also the usurper chuds get completely raped because they are bad
>>222039698The dance is a cautionary tale against feminism
Im reading Fire and Blood again. They say the Targaryens had lands in the summer islands. So Valyria was close to the Africa of Westeros? Maybe the black Velaryons is not so absurd?
>>222039789Pretty sure it's made painfully clear that women can't rule, though. How is that in favor of feminism, which the show obviously is?
seriously what the fuck are they doing with this character
>>222039877The whole maid scheme that was foiled in 2 seconds was fucking pointless. Everything she does is fucking stupid and pointless.
>>222039877HOT LESBIAN SEX WITH NYRA
Whats the real answer to why Alicent calls Aegon an idiot when he asks if she loves him before the coronation? Like what they wanted you to understand
>>222039059What are the odds of a female nude scene happening in this season? Could be only Rhaenyra's butt, I'd like it
My favorite part is all of the black leaders only ever have white subordinates.
>>222039847>dodged the questionAnon you should put some ice on that
>>222039877she becomes a completely different character from S1-S2 I don't understand it
>>222039918Your replies are as pointless as this entire story.
>>222039833>>222039847I think it’s best read as a tales concerning the perils of entitlement. The story wouldn’t even change all that much if Viserys had named a second- or third-born son his heir. It’s against tradition and going to cause a stir, and the guy that got passed over would instantly find supporters for his claim. The problem is that Rhaenyra is just a spoiled, entitled bitch who sucks as a leader. She doesn’t want to rule because she thinks of it as a duty. She thinks of it as her due.
>>222039964So what is her motivation? She fucked off when she was a teen because she didn't want to do any of that shit. Why be willing to go through all this for something she doesn't even want to have happen? I don't understand her fundamentally as a character.
>>222039877aemond is finna plap her
>>222040162Makes sense helaena wants to keep her kid so aemond can complete the incest trifecta.
>>222039877rape scenes
POPPA BEAR!
>>222039877you tell me
>>222040355is that what you call King Robert? he's kind of bearish
>>222039906>Of course I don’t love you, I love only Rhaenyraaaaaaaaaaaa!
>>222039877Nothing. They have nothing to work with since she doesn't do much in the book by this point but because they made her relationship with Rhaenyra so central to their version they have to keep her around just kind of dicking about doing fuck all for two seasons now. Shame, they really had a great start with her in season 1 but they fucked it up before that season was even over. It's amazing and disappointing they haven't had her and Rhaenyra fuck yet. Surely this show won't end without a little bit of that, some making out at least.
>>222039429>>222039484>>222039531Enslave and geld and ironborn
>>222039906That she hates her son and thinks he's an idiot. Alternatively it could be she's in a stressful situation and is frustrated her son would think she doesn't love him after doing so much to raise him up and be king and is angered by the question. But since she goes on to agree that he needs to die I'm thinking it's the former.
>>222040162Aemond is for witch sex.
>>222040571BASED
>>222039429>>222039484>>222039531I fucking KNEEL and support this endeavor.
Has anyone read the leaks for twow posted earlier this week? I just finished it
>>222040548>It's amazing and disappointing they haven't had her and Rhaenyra fuck yet. Surely this show won't end without a little bit of that, some making out at least.They’re gonna fuck on Aegon’s corpse (somehow), don’t they
>>222039789HotD literally shows us that woman cannot rule.
>>222040788Yeah sound fake
>>222040862some of the shit was too forced like jaime being a fire wight lmaoI liked that victarion's horn made him warg into the dragonssome of the conclusions were far better than the show
>>222040788They're alright. The Aegon storyline seems plausible(except for Darkstar). The North stuff is a mess. Stuff with Dany is fine as long as she starts inching her way back west.
>>222040923What does Darkstar do
How come cole says they're gonna be guerilla fighters then marches around in a large group over known river crossings?
>>222040923>he kinda just forgot the maimed myrcellaand>somehow myrcella just appeared in king's landing!
>>222040788I read it, its not good but i don’t know if its real or not. I think its suspicious Dany is still fucking Daario but it says absolutely nothing about how they got the hostages back. I also don’t think it mentions what happens to Hizdhar but i would have to look again. Tyrion warging into dragons is mad cringe if true
>>222040976He signs up to be part of Faegon's Kingsguard at Arianne's insistence then kills JonCon while he's having Vietnam flashbacks.
>>222040788I refuse to believe the Batlle of Blood is going to go down like it says in the leaks.
>>222041020Well the first part of that is believable
>>222041033yeah i didn't understand much, one moment damphair gets an arrow and dies while euron is chanting a spell or someshit, the next euron is being crowned like wtf
>>222041033that's some damm good art
>>222040788I'll bite. The what?
>>222041050It seems unlikely we will see damphair live that long even, doubt he's getting more than one chapter and we've all already read it.
>>222041063go back around 6 threads, sorry I won't do the legwork for you
>>222039531Just when I thought I couldn't like the Lannisters more.
The vile seductress Lyanna Stark is the most evil person to ever live in Westeros
>>222041095>it's old fake leaks that are getting reposted by retardsWow. Thanks.
Daario Naharis, Euron Greyjoy, and Benjen Stark walk into a bar. “Drinking alone tonight, are we?” says the bartender.
>>222041063Yesterday or the day before someone posted some supposed Winds chapter summaries that got leaked back in April on a /lit/ thread that also had a publication date for Winds. GRRM's publisher disproved the publication date saying it was bullshit after it started making the rounds on Reddit.
>>222039681I watched the first episode of S3 and stopped, I'll probably continue it once the season's done.I just couldn't take the Queen Elizabeth line seriously.It's so dumb how the writers of this dogshit show really took away most of the moral ambiguity of Rhaenyra and Alicent. Aegon's also a terrible person, but they really just had to shove it in your face by making him a rapist too.
>>222040788Way better than the show although it clearly needs work. Stannis finally waking up and calling Mel “Weakwing” and killing her, possibly becoming Azor Ahai in the process is cool. It’s him recognizing in one instantaneous moment that his particular brand of rigid idealism has been something that has only caused him grief culminating with him turning his trust over to a charlatan and losing everyone. Burning people alive didn’t cause him to win at Winterfell, his prowess as a commander did and that’s essentially his “you’re a fucking fraud” moment to Mel. I would hope we get terminator Stannis with Lightbringer at full power joining up with Jaime and whoever else in the north trying to set things right. Of course that would require ADOS to come out and at this rate that might be available in 2100.
He bore the sword. Simple as.
>>222041216>Of course that would require ADOS to come outGive Sanderson a couple outlines and we'll have Winds, Dream, Dunk, Blood and Fire by Christmas.
>>222041267Sanderson's style of writing and dialogue would be remarkably out of place for ASOIAF.
Some of the early revieweres of episode 6 are saying that is contains one of the dumbest things to ever have happened in hotd. Ran has also seen this and states that this episode has a number of contrivances. Any guesses?
>>222041375Probably has something to do with a woman
>>222041375well we know cole is dying at the start of the episode. he will be shot down by black aly. no kingmaker line, no roddy the ruin.
>>222041209Whats the Queen Elizabeth line? When they said Armada?
>>222041403and it won't be cinematic 3v1 duel challenge. his group is fighting and arrows rain down upon them
>>222041209>I just couldn't take the Queen Elizabeth line seriously.
Robert’s Rebellion was built on a lie. Rhaegar didn’t kidnap my aunt or rape her. He loved her, and she loved him.
>>222041375I’d guess Sunfyre gets moving again after laying in a field and getting jumped on by locals for like four months and not eating or drinking
>>222041319>>222041267> But! Stand! Rhaegar! Did!>Yayatil was a beggar in Kings Landing. But she had a secret. It was big, scaly, smelly, giant lizard, and yeah, it smoked and breathed fire. And No!! she was not talking about Wit, the white-haired, always sarcastic, quick-fingered shopkeeper in Flea's Bottom, though some called him such to his back, but rather the dragon that had been hidden on Dragonpit. Yayatil had been led to it by the flamespren.
>>222041209Line sucks because she hasn't done anything to show she actually has the heart of a king or whatever. It makes her look like a ridiculous womanchild, which would be great if that's what they were going for but obviously it isn't.
>>222041243don't forget his rock hard abs
>>222039531>>222040571>hide in Casterly Rock for 5 years while 90% of Westerland women were impregnated by Ironborn>begs the Reach for help because Ironborn have burned your ships and shipyards multiple times, they do the heavy lifting and the Red Kraken is already dead so it's not real revenge>pay singers to claim you did something, get exposed as a fraud>Songs claim Johanna slew twelve ironmen in the battle at Kayce, although scholars believe she only carried a bannerpathetic lannister shits
I'm going watching The Mad King play today. I'll be sure to come on here and tell my online friends all about it when I get home at like 2am
>>222041457Hell yea
>>222041457a-am I your friend anon???
>>222041455Scholars aka (((Maester's))) discrediting the heroic and impressive deeds of a great Lannister Lady, do not believe their lies.
>>222041457We'll be here anon. We're always here.
>>222041457I don't want it. I never have.
>>222041413When she said she appeared to have the weak and feeble body of a woman but the heart and spirit of a king. Elizabeth I said something similar:>I know I have the body of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too...[]I groaned.>>222041450kek
>>222041482>Lady Johanna barred the gates of Casterly Rock but was unable to protect the rest of the west. Dalton burned the fleet of House Lannister and sacked Lannisport. Hundreds of women and girls were taken as salt wives, including the favorite mistress of Jason Lannister and their natural daughters>When Lady Johanna Lannister began building a new fleet on behalf of her son Dalton's ironmen burned her shipyards and abducted another hundred women>Johanna sent a ragtag fleet to discretely invade Fair Isle. The ironmen ambushed these westermen and Dalton sent the heads of Lord Prester, Lord Tarbeck, and Ser Erwin Lannister to Johanna at Casterly Rock"great Lannister lady" who sat back and fingered herself wishing it was her being carried off by kraken chads
>>222041482>great>Lannister
>>222041455She had a shitty hand after Jason lost the main fighting force during the war but still she still managed to protect her house and the westerlands from collapsing. Stop spreading misinformation about our girl bossAlso it was 3 years
>>222041455She failed in some parts but still we mainly love her because she hates the ironborn just like every good man shouldOnly good ironborn is a dead ironborn
>>222041661he started raiding as soon as Viserys died in 129, the Reach didn't invade the Iron Islands until 134 and they only dared attempt it after the Red Kraken died>"The women of the West prefer men of iron to cowardly lions, it would seem, for they jump into the sea and plead with us to take them"sorry Lannister cucks, the majority of the Westerlands population is now descended from Ironborn thanks to this dumb bitch
SEX WITH JEYNE
>A FINGER IN THE BUM?
>>222039195Why was a maid who's primary job seemed to be dealing with the royal children, be bringing the prince wine?It just doesn't make sense, Aegon would have a dedicated servant for fetching wine, not a household maid that takes care of his kids.It doesnt add up, she's up to something.Probably a Faceless Man.
>>222041601>kraken chad>got his throat slit from ear to ear by a woman>his son got gelded and turned into a court jester back at Casterly Rock>half his family got killedKEK!
>>222041738>Abducted hundreds of women>majority of the Westerlands population is now descended from IronbornMake up your mind dumbass. 90% my ass, ironborn rapist
bear poppa ...
>>222041738>women got abducted and brought back to their shitty islands>DUH WESTERLANDS IS NOW MAJORITY IRONBORNIronborn education at WORK ladies and gentlemen
Its honestly baffling how the Ironborn have lasted so long.Between their constant reaving of their closest coastlines, their own weird religion, and how they actively take slaves-I mean thralls, how hasn't the rest of the Kingdoms not just dedicate themselves to wiping them out completely?
>>222041869>killed by a woman>"Accounts differ as to what is known of her; whether she was thirteen or thirty, pretty or plain, virgin or widow, where Lord Greyjoy found her or how long she had been a salt wife">throws herself out a window and nobody sees her againLannisters had to hire a Faceless Man to take him out>>222041878>>222041909they occupied half the castles in the Westerlands for years, keep coping lion keks
Curse Stannis
>>222040821AIgen GODS pls make them kiss.
>King Gerold Lannister sailed his fleet to the Iron Islands in a daring raid, taking a hundred ironborn hostages. He kept them at Casterly Rock afterwards, hanging one every time his shores were raided.>Lady Johanna (Westerling) Lannister allied with the lord admiral of the Reach, Ser Leo Costayne, to have the westermen invade the Iron Islands in 134 AC. When Rodrik Greyjoy was taken to Casterly Rock as a captive, Johanna had him gelded and made him her son's fool.>Aubrey Crakehall had Hagon Hoare mutilated the same way that Queen Lelia Lannister had been, and then had him hanged. Aubrey also ordered that Hoare Castle be razed.BASED WESTCHADS
>>222041971>how hasn't the rest of the Kingdoms not just dedicate themselves to wiping them out completely?Plot
>>222041994>lannisters had to hire a faceless manironborn COPE
>>222041971Robert had the chance
>>222042053Should have at least wiped out the Greyjoys themselves, put Rodrik the Reader in charge of the islands and he might actually make the Ironborn worth something.
>Though Lady Johanna’s wish to put every ironman to the sword was frustrated, no man could doubt that the Lannisters had paid their debt by the time the fight was done. Hundreds of longships and fishing boats were burned, with as many homes and villages. The wives and children of the ironborn who had wreaked such havoc on the westerlands were put to the sword wherever they were found. Amongst the slain were nine of the Red Kraken’s cousins, two of his three sisters and their husbands, Lord Drumm of Old Wyk and Lord Goodbrother of Great Wyk, as well as the Lords Volmark and Harlaw of Harlaw, Botley of Lordsport, and Stonehouse of Old Wyk. Thousands more would die of starvation before the year was done, for the Lannisters also carried off many tons of stored grain and salt fish, and despoiled that which they could not carry. Though Toron Greyjoy remained upon the Seastone Chair when his defenders beat off the Lannister assault upon the walls of Pyke, his half-brother Rodrik was taken and brought back to Casterly Rock, where Lady Johanna had him gelded and made him her son’s fool.
>my favourite fictional men raped your fictional women!
>>222041971there really isn't anything other than plot that has saved them lmaothey are the smallest, least prosperous, and least numerous of the 7 'kingdoms' and consistently get BTFO but no one ever takes the logical final solution to the ir*nborn menace
>>222041971As annoying as the Ironborn are they could have their uses. They have one of the better navys and if you managed to distract them long enough from their innate urge to rape/pillage they can expand territorially. Like how under House Hoare they managed to take the Riverlands and a portion of the Crowlands You can always bribe them to attack a rival house's shores as a prank.
>>222042053Robert liked to keep them around to have someone to fight I imagine. This is why they needed Dorne to not join the Seven Kingdoms, you need an outlet for aggression and dissatisfaction, a punching bag
>>222042075best WESTERCHADS refusing to sully themselves by raping filthy and worn out ir*nborn whores, and curb stomping ir*nborn children into the dirt
>>222042075Holy based. Long live the memory of our great lady Johanna Lannister!
>>222042075Do you think she gelded him herself?
Daenerys would have just had one of her goons crucify this fuck
>>222042372she would've burned him with dragon which is what Rhaenyra should've done too
Bastard blood, shed at war.
>>222042372>
>>222041160she used a love potion on rhaegar to escape her marriage with robert
>>222039078why would you root for Criston? The only appealing aspect to him is his everyman side.
>>222039262in peacetime things might have gone differently, his father might have died and he could have taken the Iron Islands with Northern support under the right circumstances. Arya wasn't a pipedream imo.
He comes....
>>222039906it's irrelevant, Aegon asking her that at that precise moment is just another example of how little he understands what is going on. Alicent is a true player of the game of thrones at that point and is frustrated with how bad her sons are at the game.
>>222039059Hey gang. I figured HotD was going to be shit so I never watched it. Now that a season or 2 is out, is it worth watching?
>>222039911But Corlys' son is his first mate and he is also black though.
>>222042075>where Lady Johanna had him gelded and made him her son’s fool.This is the chef's kiss bit of the whole story
>>222039836Aren't those more like colonies?
>>222041095I wasted time getting to that fake shit...
>>222042630Watch it the memes or if your familiar with the source material with a morbid curiosity on how they're going to butcher it further.
>>222042768I unfortunately do know the source material.. Is it Rangz of Power LAWD DEM RANGZ bad or just a confusing mess?
>>222042456how did they generate the snot? i doubt this bitch was crying fr
>>222042804It's a simpler mess than RoP, but also like RoP certain characters not first in the billing are hard-carrying the entire production.
>>222041209Bro, it only gets worse from there. One plot point involves her being on her period and getting irritated at everyone.
>>222042804It's a smidge above Rings of Power but not by much as things have been going. Season 1 was great, Season 2 has it's moments but was a noticeable drop in quality. Season 3 which were on now started strong but then has dripped into Season 2 territory. The show ends next season but that'll be 2 years from now.
>>222042869That sounds pretty terrible. Im downloading S1 now lol I seen Matt Smith was in it and I love him and his weird face. hopefully hes one of the characters holding it all up? I guess ill find out.
>>222042456>You can't appear weak in front of the people>So stand around hemming and hawing about not wanting to kill someone, start crying then miss with your first swingGirl power!
>>222042554Name a single person in this shit show worth rooting for.
>>222042930>It's a smidge above Rings of Power but not by much as things have been going.Perfect! I am a slop enjoyer and like to laugh at trash.>Season 1 was great, Season 2 has it's moments but was a noticeable drop in quality. Season 3 which were on now started strong but then has dripped into Season 2 territory.Ill keep my expectations low and try not to get too attached.You anons are awesome. thanks for the heads up
>>222042969
>>222043000Fine, he seems okay but I don't even know his name or where he came from.
>>222039223What rapist vampire lord? There are no vampires.
>>222040788No way Jaime dies like that, he's Azor Ahai (Tyr) and will smite the mighty fenrir to prevent eternal winter. Game of Thrones is a ragnarok adaptation
>>222042969I root for the dragons, may they burn Westeros and let it be reborn from the ashes.
>>222043101>What rapist vampire lord? There are no vampires.Roose Bolton.He has the blood of the 'others' for sure.
>>222043129He doesn't look nor act like a vampire in the show at all.
>>222043031Oscar "Radical" Tully of Riverrun, Lord Paramount of the Riverlands
>>222043128But we know they don't. We know exactly what happens to them. That's the problem with prequels. This story is loosely framed by the targaryens having dreams about a song of ice and fire. The problem with that is that we know exactly how it ends and how stupid and ineffectual dany is and how easily the white walkers get defeated. It's a huge nothing burger.
>>222043158>how ineffectual dany is and how easily white walkers get defeatedonly according to DnD's fanfic, not per George's plan
>>222043155Hes quite a bit different in the books. I dont think hes actually a vampire but hes definitely otherworldly and has a 'Power' to him.Its too bad fat fuck martins never going to finish the books because the best character is Euron Greyjoy. Hes a totally different character in the show but both are really awesome. In the books the last chapter is Euron Doing a savage blood ritual on the way to Hightower. the sea is roiling, storms are forming, hes laughing like a maniac and growing in power because he actually knows magic.Turning the Iron fleet on westeros because you want to fuck a queen up the bum is just as based though.
>>222043213Just what the fuck were they thinking with show Euron. Why did they make him so lame?Even his outfit sucks.
>>222043156He's cool but I still like cole because he was raped by 2 queens and reminds me of christian bale.>>222043206>implying the books will ever be finishedAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAGood one
>>222043156
>>222043248>Good onedoesn't matter there is no way whatever dogshit that happened at the end of S8 was part of george's plan. Dany's woman moment and the white walkers being a minor threat was just because those two fucks wanted a quick paycheck and bail the show
>>222043236
>>222043271
>>222043236>Just what the fuck were they thinking with show EuronHonestly, those last few seasons were so shit that I dont think anyone has that answer.Its too bad because book Euron is fucking awesome.
>>222043213Book Euron could still give Cersei the finger in the bum.
>>222043277Dany burning KL and Bran winning the thronebowl were from Gurm, the White Walkers and kinda forgetting about the Iron Fleet were D&D.
>>222041455her husband took all the soldiers to war so what she supposed to do
>>222043466I still can't believe Bran winning the throne is Grrm's idea, it's so goddamn fucking stupid.
>>222039789not that women can't rule just that they don't inherit over the son. The conflict was about unclear succession rules not some girlboss feminism shit
>>222041994>they occupied half the castles in the Westerlands for yearsonly on Fair Isle
>>222042089Aegon I forbade it
>>222043447This is absolutely true. the only difference is that Book Eurons finger would be mAgICaL.It sucks that we have to wait for AI before we can get proper adaptations. I want to see Ser Robert Strong go on a fucking rampage.https://youtu.be/mLbirBvF6Q4?si=CvDJMs1BKB9mM5HGI was just waiting for the mountain to go nuts in the show but they pussed out.
>>222043551meant for>>222041971
>>222042075and they say grrm doesn't write happy endings
They can never make me hate you
>>222043521And that was likely deserved. Lord Farman once stopped hosting the lesbian dowager queen and her dragon, the only things that kept Fair Isle from being the designated Ironborn onahole, so the occupation was probably also the result of some dumb decision his descendants made.
>>222043493There is no proof that gurm wants that to happen.
>>222043666I want to believe he told that to them as a joke and they just went with it
Haven't watched S3 yet, is Rhaenyra still incapable of doing no evil and having no ability to control anything
>>222043493>Spends 40K pages telling us about how monarchy is a flawed system that bleeds you dry>The solution is a magic surveillance stateNo wonder he dropped the books
>>222043600>2 more daysI'll miss Westeros first nihilist so much
>>222043729/tv/ hates non-white characters yet they love Criston
>>222043103I posted this without having read the full leaks, Jaime Tyr confirmed based george
>>222039223Would Ned really go and behead Roose if he found out about the rape years after it happened
>>222043802He could try
Sexual intercourse with mommy Jeyne Arryn
>>222043837I feel like it would be absolutely demasculating and I hate that I kinda want that
>>222043878No woman is immune to a good dicking.
>>222043837deepthroat queen
>>222043837I wish she would look at me like I'm a disgusting worm while giving me a hj
>>222043697he could have told them the madqueen will burn king's landing, but the madqueen was cersei
I want to be cucked so badly bros
>>222043751hes just tanned
>>222044090Aegon...
>>222044090bloodraven bros...
>>222043837CUTE!
rape
>>222044205I wish that were me (laying at her feet)
>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
>Elia Martell if she was alive circa 298 AC
I watch other shows and they don't contain rape and I feel empty. This show has ruined me.
>>222044205i want to be her pet dog so bad
>>222042372She's not Northern, there's absolutely no reason for her to do the execution herself or in such a manner
>>222044941none of the writers have read the series or understand anything about westeros lore
Jolly Adventures in the Riverlands
You want compromise? How's this? 15 years on 4chan. I wanted the Winds of Winter. I compromised. I watched 8 seasons of Game of Thrones. I wanted to see Stannis and Roose Bolton battle in the ice. But I compromised. I watched House of the Dragon on streaming sites. You see where I'm going?
>>222045335Lemoncakes, ovah here!
>>222045335>His manigot are... CHEEEESE OF THE RADIATOOOR!!>And HE>IS>...>The Sha of Iran...
>>222044834Why did Rhaegar nowayfag her?
Payne?
>>222044090George Raped Roped Martin...
>>222045335Whom would Tony support in the War of the 5 kings?
>>222045437>Illyrio Mopatis always said there were five kings at war, and then you had that pygmy thing in Meereen. We behead Daenerys and negotiate with her dragons. They should have done this back in Robert Baratheon's days. There are no Targaryens in my book about Targaryens—make it happen.
Time to rape some green bitches
>>222045522>There are no Targaryens in my book about Targaryens—make it happen.
Lady Footly can get it
>>222045528u-umm...who said this?
>>222045560Ser Michael Hawk
>>222045437tyrells have "all" the foodlannisters have or had "all" the goldlittlefinger had "all" the whoresso....
>>222039059Reddit clowning Mysaria.
>>222041971they had leaders that weren't total retards, Balon's father was more conservative and tried to better integrate into the realm. That's why once he died Balon goes full retard and swings the opposite direction
>>222045662You should perhaps go back
>>222043571>and they say grrm doesn't write happy endingsthe ironborn doing their shits still even when they got raped in north, they are still around
The Ironborn will last long after House Lannistoid has returned to the dust kek
>>222045682Doesn't that make Balon's father a progessive/reformist since the OG ironman culture is to act like niggers?
In the books Dany would actually marry Euron, we know her type and Euron's like 10x chadder than Daario. Total Ironchad victory.
>>222045428Kek
>>222045428If I pull that off, would you die?
>>222045428PAYNE IN THE BUTT
That anon a few threads back had a good idea with a seasonal TAOOBA post.
>>222045822It would be extremely Payneful.
>>222045437Joffrey>You know, it wasn’t long ago you used to cry by the river while Stark girl was beating you up. And as far as I concerned you should still be there!Robb>Red Wedding, whatever happened there…Balon>Fucking ironborn!>Tony!!!>WHO ELSE, HUH?! WHO ELSE?!!Stannis >Whatever happened to Stannis Baratheon, the strong silent type?Renly>He‘s a faaAAaag
>>222042372Surely a woman with zero experience wouldn't not be able to decapitate a man with 2 swings, should have been like a Mexican cartel video
>>222046145even with that valyrian steel sword it would have been a total mess
>>222046168Nah the Valyrian steel would make it one stroke
>>222046181it can cut better than other swords but the wielder that is not a swordsman of some even basic skill would fuck up every time.
>>222046181especially a woman would fuck up beyond belief
>>222046181If you swing it limp like a w*man then I imagine it wouldn't, it's not a lightsaber.
>>222044941>no reason for her to do the execution herselfa king or queen personally executing someone is always based and makes for a better story for the smallfolk, as long as they don't fuck it up
>>222046256she's a woman, nobody wants to see women do violent shit like that
>>222046256She was literally crying and had snot running down her face. She made herself look dumb. Girls are not supposed to be doing that type of stuff.
She should have done it a blunter blade. Otto deserved atleast ten blows.
>>222046363>Otto deserved atleast ten blows.I don't think rewarding him with blowjobs is going to help
I can't believe none of you retards realised this shit was AI >>221956351
>>222046335Yeah it was a pretty substantial aura loss no matter how you look at it
>>222046417Image if anyone wants to read that shit.
>>222046411You ever seen Dany blow a comatose Drogo? Same principle
>>222046335What did Sara mean by this?
>>222046447>something something head
Is she a chud or not
>>222045428payne your grace?
>>222046496She very chud. She also pro-rape (blessed)
>>222046496Who is she trying to convince?
>>222046335>Girls are not supposed to be doing that type of stuff.Visenya would have beheaded Otto with one hand and one swift strike and then threatened everyone else in the room, Rahenyra is just a huge pussy
>>222046538The piece of clothing she killed
>>222046547Men aren't impressed by violent women we just think they're disgusting
>>222046576Speak for yourself they are hot
>>222046576Speak for yourself, I can respect a woman with guts to back up her words, even if its not something I find sexually attractive
>>222046547visenya would never try to usurp the throne for herself from a male firstborn son.
>>222046594>>222046596you guys are incel queers, not men
>>222046602R is obeying her father and the prophetic visions which she adamantly believes inAlicent is obeying her ambition and what she heard and interpreted as it suited herthe king had R be queen and oaths were taken and the orders of the king and oaths taken do not go stale
>>222046611sorry kid, your words aren't worth much here
>>222046547Women like Visenya and Nymeria are like 1 in 5 million.
>>222046638t. bought a ticket to Supergirl
>>222046547Most girls are not like Visenya
>>222046639More like they are loved like one in a trillion
>>222046635andal law > some cancer patient's word
>>222046648>no arrow so you exposed yourselfgood for you anon!
(You) did this
>>222046639>>222046652The point is that Rahenyra crying about how she has the heart of a king is silly when she can't even execute her number 1 nemesis without making a mess of herself in publicAnd Daemon making her do it is intentional sabotage of her cause
>>222046677I'm a socialist and team green
>>222046302I do.
>>222046677I don't care about season 1 Aegon because I consider it a writing mistake they tried to retcon with his season 2 writingThe bastard fighting pits were so comically over the top I refuse to even engage with them when discussing the character
Cersei should have married Stannis instead of Robert
>>222046677>a few mad TargaryensTargshit propaganda
>I do.
>>222046723No need to post your face faglord.
damn this bitch is ugly.
>>222046677Are there any writers left who understand historical context when writing fiction? None of them seem able to understand a story without boiling it down to a shallow allegory of current day American politics
>>222046677All my guys won and all their guys lost
Ormund's death will be cringe
>in season 1 killing luke was an accident>but then he burns aegon>but then he burns sharp point intentionally>but now he regrets burning aegon>Vaghar burns the riverlands on her ownI am not sure about what they are doing with aemond as a character, if they wanted to whitewash him (the riverlands were burned by Vaghar going rogue) why the fuck did they make him burn Sharp point? It's not even relevant to the plotI think they didn't plan ahead
>alicent becomes an assassin and goes to harrenhal to kill aemondwhat are we even doing at this point man
>>222046677Rhaenyra fans always seem to conveniently forget that Viserys literally broke the established succession law and centuries of tradition to designate her as his heir. Not to mention the whore then spawns THREE obvious bastards in a row. No one with half a brain should be surprised that so many houses turn away from her.
Jaehaerys broke his own law with the Great Council so it's pointless to discuss laws at that point anyway
>>222046766Is that the leak people are buzzing about
>>222046776>eldest male heir becomes the kingwhat law was even broken nigga?
>>222046770In fact, not enough houses turned away from her. Blood & Cheese and in the show Rhaenys dragonpit stunt should've buried the black cause for good.
>>222046776You can't break the law with a council of vassals because the point of a council of vassals is to change the law
>>222046789That the oldest daughter inherits before younger brother
>season 8: Fall of the North>season 9: Fall of the Riverlands, The Vale & Westerlands>season 10: Last stand in Kings LandingSo Simple....
>>222046795>Blood & Cheese and in the show Rhaenys dragonpitB-but poor r-ratcatchers!!!
>>222046801The vassals are also answerable to the same law. If they have a problem with it, they should've raised it decades ago.
>>222046831Yeah eldest daughter of the king, not eldest daughter of the current heir who dies before he’s crowned. It was a murky area
>>222046850That's why you make a council so everyone agrees to change it. What are you struggling to undersand?
>>222046770>succession lawthere's years of tradition and a precedent set during the great council yes, but this doesn't exist
daughters shouldn't inherit, they were made to suck cock
>>222046770>forget that Viserys lTHAT WAS THE KING AND GAVE ORDERS AND OATHS WERE TAKEN
Just following British precedent. What did they do when something like this happened
>>222046878holy trvke. male only primogeniture or bust
>>222046893https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Anarchy
>>222046878Correct.
>>222046770>Rhaenyra fansfuck Rhaenyra, the whole point is that the KING GAVE ORDER AND OATHS WERE TAKENTHE LORDS DID NOT OBJECT EN MASSE AND TOOK THE OATHS, THIS IS MEANS THAT SHE WAS MEANT TO BE QUEEN AND RULE UNTIL VISERYS CHANGED HIS MIND WHICH HE COULD AND HE DID NOTORDERS AND OATHS
>>222046911>When Matilda attempted to be crowned queen, she was forced out of London by hostile crowdsbased chuds
>>222046868It's pretty clear. In the absence of any children, the eldest son or in that absence, the eldest daughter of the eldest heir is selected. Rhaenys was the eldest daughter of the eldest heir.
>>222046878>T. Realistically what 99% of Westeros would tell viserys when he tried to make rhaenyra heir
>>222046876You make a council to make a decision, but he didn't change any or overturn his previous law with that decision. That law remained. What is so difficult to read here?
>>222046927the King died, there was no reason to follow his wishes or orders, learn to realpolitik
>>222046911>11 year civil war>The conflict was considered particularly destructive, even by the standards of medieval warfare.>One chronicler states that "Christ and his saints were asleep" during the period.This sounds kinda nuts. Brits chill the hell out...
>>222046963Medieval law is based on precedent, there is no precedent for female inheritance of the throne, the council didn't set that precedent nor was it a precedent before that
>>222046971this is not democracy retard and orders of the king and oaths taken do not go staleanyone disobeying the orders of Viserys would be executed and this includes all of you donkeys
Nobody said anything when Viserys named her heir instead of Daemon and nobody will. The lords and vassals are sheep. That is why they will never make good decision makers, let alone in a great council to determine the successor
>>222046831Dumb law, change it.
>>222047002power resides where men believe it resides (which was not Viserys)
>>222047002westeros isn't an absolute monarchy either nigga.
>>222046997Succession isn't a matter of precedence, it is law. Laws are formed from decades, centuries or millenia of precedence, not just one council.
>>222047002Them's fighting words. Congratulations, you started a civil war.
>>222047031the king is the ruler and his orders absolute, you are all anarchists
>>222047051>Laws are formed from decades, centuries or millenia of precedence, not just one council.But there was no female inheritance before the council either, so you would be losing this argument according to your own points
>>222047014andal law, sorry second son
>>222047059>you are all anarchistsyes
>>222047046The orders of the king are absolute mongoloid
>>222046770>it's another episode of pseudointellectual teamfags pontificate endlessly on westerosi law as they just imagined itOh brother.
>>222047069Ladies absolutely existed when they were only existing children/grandchildren of a current lord
>>222047088>when they were only existing childrenBut THIS IS NOT THE CASE FOR THE DANCE>but what if the situation was completely fucking different?IT ISN'TIf Rahenyra was an only child, she would be the rightful queen, but she's not an only child
>>222047075no they aren't. otherwise daemon blackfyre would be the heir
>>222047075>The orders of the king are absolute mongoloidlol
>>222047112THIS IS THE CASE FOR THE GREAT COUNCIL YOU IDIOT
>>222047115Daemon Blackfyre is the heir.
>>222047115>implying he wasn't
>>222047119In the case of the great council the vassals were summoned precisely because, as I said, if you want to go outside the established law that's the correct way to do itAgain, what are you struggling with? If you want to change shit in a feudal monarchy you make a deal with the vassals.
>>222046718>less than 10 madmen in 300 yearsPropaganda for those who never bothered to think about the source material and just took everything said in universe at face value.
Nobody gave a shit when Daemon qas skipped over before Rhaenyra, nobody will give two shits now. The lords of wWesteros will vote as they are asked to vote.
>>222047138I don't know what is difficult to grasp. Because you seem to be flip-flopping between Andal precedence (millenia) and one Great Council decision. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth.
>>222047151reminder that Egg burned his family alive
>>222047184>You are talking out of both sidesOnly because you are too retarded to understand a simple step by step logic>vassal - king relationship is the core of the feudal system>precedent set laws>the king wants to disregard or ignore said precedent>therefore he summons the vassals to see if everyone is on board with it>this way a new way to do things is setIf you can't understand it after this you are genuinely hopeless, like, actually retarded.
>>222047225Are you genuinely braindead or do you not see that Andal precedence followed in every other case of succession after the Great Council and the Dance
>>222047223Which makes him what, madman 6?They truly are abnormally crazy these targaryens.
Westeros transitioned from feudalism to absolutism because anon said so
>>222047259Targaryen madmen are significantly more dangerous than regular madmen.
6 mad Targaryens out of countless? Holy...
>>222047259I'm just mentioning it because Egg is considered one of the "good" Targaryens and even he turned out to be a fucking weirdo
>>222047255There was literally never again a situation just like the great council afterwardsYou are talking out of your ass instead of just admitting you are retarded for thinking what Jahaheris did (agreeing with the vassals) and what Viserys did (give an order as if he was an absolute monarch) is the same thing when its clearly not the same thing at all
>>222047259His brother drank wildfire
>>222047051there is no law retard which is one of the reasons the conflict begins in the first place
>>222042605No, no, no!
>>222047296 Every lord and lady in the great continent of Westeros followed Andal succession before and after. It isn't just for the royal throne. Even Daemon was passed over for Rhaenyra and nobody said a word.You are too brainbroken because you know the Great Council didn't change shit anyway
>>222042605>>222047356Did they cut this nigga out completely
>>222047356who is that character? benjicot?
>>222047361Daemon wasn't passed over, Viserys had several living sons
>>222047367Yeah, Oscar Tully is taking his place.Kinda makes sense, Benji was kind of superfluous.
>>222047002>anyone disobeying the orders of Viserys would be executedBy who? Viserys is dead.
>>222047259>Targcels when the woman from the insane dragon house known for their leaders who go mad goes mad
>>222047379Before Alicent? Name them.
>>222047361>and nobody said a wordBecause Viserys was still alive>Andal succession Which also says Rahenyra can't be heir, so we have, once again, reached the conclusion that no matter where you look everything points out as Aegon being the rightful king>you know the Great Council didn't change shit anywayAnd? Reread my post, here:>what Jahaheris did (agreeing with the vassals) and what Viserys did (give an order as if he was an absolute monarch) is the same thing when its clearly not the same thing at allThis is literally it, it doesn't matter if the great council was a one time thing or a new law, the point is, it was done the correct way in a feudal monarchy, while Viserys naming Rahenyra was done the incorrect way, therefore the two things are not comparable at all. Jahaheris was NOT breaking the law with the great council, because it was an agreement with vassals, which is how a feudal monarchy solves things.
>>222047429Andal succession explicitly states that Rhaenys will be hier. Viserys wouldn't even be king.
Sorry Targoid, you VILL follow Andal customs. Your eldest daughter will inherit before your younger brother. Rhaenys will be heir. Your sham council means nothing before thousands of years of precedence.
>>222047437>Andal succession explicitly states Which is why the andal vassals were summoned to reach an agreement on itJesus christ you are fucking DENSE
There hasn't been a single good Targaryen king in history
>>222047462Maegor was based
Womenbros we must do better.We must be better women.
>NEW THREAD
>>222047460Sorry your Council will not break millenia of Andal succession laws.
>>222047462baelor the based
>>222047476Maegor was woke
>>222047476>couldn't defeat the faith militant
But in all seriousness the faith of the seven is a patriarchal bigotted institution that should be rooted out so that we can have all the gay sex we want
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>>222043277And all that amounts to a pile of shit because you'll never actually see the true ending. Who cares about some hypothetical ending that may or may not be true. That's the ending we got and it's the only ending we'll ever get so it's canon.
>>222044853You get plenty enough rape in this show to sate your desire, even when it's uncalled for and incomprehensible.
>>222046877You got game of thrones and knight switched around. Knight is the best thing they've ever made.
>>222047294Is it not for the greater good to kill all targaryens?
>>222047406What's so important about it not being from alicent? The point of a king is that he can make heirs until the day he dies. That's why rhaenyra shouldn't be queen. There's literally no way she ever makes any more heirs because she walled so there will necessarily be another fight for secession after she dies. She is the worst choice on all fronts.
