explain why it's bad without sounding like a chud
>>222113729I just dont give a shit about any of the characters
>>222113729its not bad, its an entertaining movie that brings the typical nolan realism and seriousness to a mythical storyNot a masterpiece but definitely not a bad moviesadly its the best big screen entertainment we got this year so far
>>222113729>shit costumes>shit lighting>shit coreography>shit dialogue>shit characterization>shit color composition>shit camera work>shit actor choice
>>222113856You forgot shit editing.
>>222113729The best archer in the world shoots a bow like a limp-wristed retard.
It's drab, dour, and clumsy
>>222113729nolan is a shit director and i thought that before culture war obsessed chuds got mad at him for casting black people
>>222113729NOT ENOUGH TRANSEXUALS.
They made one of the most badass stories ever told boring.
>>222113729>There are no sex scenes and all the food looks horrible
>>222113729>chudC.H.U.D. is an acronym. Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller. As evidenced by the 1984 film of the same name. Any reference to the word, "chud" that is not automatically a reference to this film or the creatures herein, is made by a monstrous, pathetic faggot who wants so desperately for his faggot lingo to actually MEAN something.Get good, you fucking faggot.
>>222113729Armond White reviewed it, and it's clearly retarded slop, catering to plebs with IQ ranges between 85 and 95.No real people enjoy consumerist garbage.
>>222113729>rate my turdthe first teaser trailer looked like shart, dishonest even. look at this SEAL TEAM 6 assault the compound and be AMAZE.
>>222113729It's incredibly dull and boring, the only person who seems to be actually trying is Robert.
>>222113832Nuke india
>>222113729No musical number
>>222113832if boycotting this movie was your only shot at seeing kino in the cinema in the next decade would you do it? or would you ask for more of the same only worse and worse please?
>>222113729It's bad like all Hollywood movies, plus Nolan and his host of Hollywood horrors that he has in every movie. Hollywood has never depicted an ancient battle or an ancient set of armour accurately, some have tried but Nolan's Odyssey didn't even bother , they not only did the same old thing of waving their swords around but all their actual weapons were missing. Even the helmets were so terrible, Maring the Martian style crap. I suppose if you know nothing about the weapons they used you would have no idea about the design of the helmet they used and why they would have almost certainly had enclosed face guards, like a classical Corinthian helmet.
>>222113729It just is
>>222113729It enshits on itself.
>>222113729>explain why it's good without sounding like a bootlicker
>>222113729It looks bland, visually drab and poorly edited.
>>222113729I liked it but it completely inverts the themes. Odysseus is not a character who feels guilt over putting cities to the torch.
>>222113729I didn't see it
>>222113893The issue wasn't really casting black actors. It was casting someone thats described as being extremely white and blonde as black. It was just to appease social activists
>>222113729>without sounding like a chudYou mean without sounding like a mentally sane normal human being?It sucks because a nig is playing the most "beautiful woman who ever lived" and a tranny is playing the "greatest warrior who ever lived."It sucks because did everything to erase the white identity from the story. This isn't a chud take it's a normal fucking human being take.
>>222113729Looks like shitSounds like shitActors can't act for shitEdited by someone having an epileptic fit
>>222113729My issues:Boring Monster fights, and design were really bad. One of the monster looked like flying elephant trunks. Fights were extremely blandDialogue had no depth
>>222113729I could tell you why it's bahhhhh-d but you wouldn't believe me anyways so why botherand by (you) i mean the character you're playing in your baited thread opener
>>222116354Sinon is the greatest warrior? Or did you mean Achilles, who isn't even in the movie. Dumbass
>>222116474Clearly she is supposed to be Achilles I don't give a fuck what tranny cope you are going to pull but they presented her as Achilles and did nothing to make the audience think otherwise.
>>222113729Nolan couldn't decide if he wants to make a realistic approach without gods, miracles, monsters and shit or a full fantasy movie. Therefore the result turned out very bland.
>>222113729Explain why it's good without mentioning it's financial success.
>>222113729The main problem is characterisation. Odysseus' cunning and trickery are his heroic virtues and he never once felt guilty about the Trojan Horse or any other stratagem. The film version of Odysseus has none of his cunning or demonstrates any real problem solving skills; Nolan instead tries to turn Odysseus' journey into another Oppenheimer guilt trip where his virtues are treated like his cardinal sins. This approach falls especially flat because Matt Damon isn't a convincing enough actor to really convey any of Odysseus' craftiness or quick wit, so he just comes off mopey and bored throughout the film, and you don't get any hint of the ingenuity that Homer's text imbues his protagonist with. The nonlinear narrative only serves to provide the illusion of depth to a very generic Nolan action plot grafted onto the faintest trace of Greco-Roman myth, which isn't helped by the characteristically weak dialogue in Nolan movies (Our age of bronze is collapsing, Somebody get these beggars outta here etc.) being especially out place when the actors have such cheap-looking anachronistic outfits. The whole thing feels less like a Nolan film about The Odyssey, and more like an Odyssey film about Nolan.
>>222113729>explain why it's bad without sounding like a chudBut I am a chud
>>222113729only if you delete your spam thread and then kill yourself.
>>222113729Fights with relentless Bourne-style shakycam are unpleasant to watch, and do a disservice to the choreography and the production design when you can barely tell what you're looking at.That's the biggest flaw imo, it's still a good movie overall.
>>222113940I got it from Mike who got it from the movie it just meant new yorker
>>222113729script sucked, most performances sucked, music was forgettable, skips a ton but then also drags out the suitor fight for no reason, speaking of action sucked
>>222113889kek there was a quick shot of him firing off a boat and you can see the arrow come off the bow at like a 45 degree angle
>>222113729Nolan lacks the poetic soul to adapt mythic stories. Simple as that.
>>222113889We used to call him Paris
>>222119198Whether or not odysseus was better than paris doesn't matter when they show extras holding and shooting a bow more accurately than the guy who was apparently really fucking good at it.
>>222119198Hilton?
>>222118957That's unironically my take as well. I'm not really upset about any of the other culture war shit. I can just tell it's really corporatized, phoned in, generic. Look at the font, he's still using his stock "This is a Nolan Film(TM)" minimalist font he's been on for like 8 movies straight now. The costuming looks like it lacks any personality or detail. The cast is the most uninspired random who's who of the current meta and past Nolan films deal, no brilliant new stars.
>>222113729
>>222113729>Cyclops encounter4/10>Lysostrians2/10>Pigs6/10>Scylla/Charybdis2/10>Sirens8/10>Calypsos Paradise4/10>sacred cows/storm9/10>slaughter of the suitors/Antinius8/10Just too mamy of the narrative beats were fumbled sadly
>>222113729The juxtaposition and the mise en scene were all over the place.
>>222117181Doesn’t sound like you’ve seen the movie.
>>222120035He is right. She is inserted in the story to play Achilles role. The problem is that it changed the hubris and kleos associated with Odysseus and Achilles in the original epic to reframe it as PSTD, guilty ridden protagonist who has to face the consequences of sacking a city and killing its citizens which is a modern theme and not really the focus of the original story.
>>222113729>explain why it's badit was written by christopher nolanhe's only slightly better than his brother jonathan nolan
>>222120913Again, you sound like you haven’t seen the movie. She plays Sinon, not Achilles, and the two characters wildly differ in characterization and contexts. >He’s rightlol we know you’re the same person
>>222113729Explain why it's good without sounding like a mentally ill lefty.
>>222120913Sinon is a transposition of the character from the Aeneid and is Antinous brother, you dumb fucking mongrel. I'm starting to think they purposely pay bad actors like you to muddy the waters with your inane assertions.
>>222120952What part do you not understand that she exists because Nolan decided the reframe the original themes for his modern ones? She plays the same vital role that Achilles plays in the original epic in regards to Odysseus character, they're both the anchor to Odysseus understanding his flaws and grounding him towards the objective of returning home. They are in essence the same character, just retrofitted to play the story Nolan wants to play instead of keeping it authetic.
>>222121133Shut the fuck you stupid nigger. Sinon's character does not exist in the original Odyssey.
It's boring
>>222113729it's a shitty modern spy thriller larping as a mythological epic. You can just watch Jason Bourne and get a way more coherent experience.
>>222113729It's a monument to film making, but man the story and dialog are mid at best. Some performances(Pattinson and Leguizamo surprisingly) are great, and the rest are mid to bad.
>>222121179>Sinon's character does not exist in the original Odyssey.Learn to read what I wrote, stupid faggot. I said the character was transposed from Virgil's later additions to the story, by adding a go-between with the Greeks and the Trojans, not replace Achilles who is unimportant to the original story of the Odyssey. Your lack of basic media comprehension further proves you're either ignorant of how adaptation works or are a malcontent looking to spread misinfo. In either case, you should kill yourself.
>>222121325>not replace Achilles who is unimportant to the original story of the Odyssey>talks about basic media comprehension>writes that garbage Glad to know you're the authority in Homer's original work and you feel like Achilles plays zero role in the storyline while works that are devised from it are much more critical for whatever you want to see on the screen. Thankfully, the majority of people who want to see the Odyssey don't agree with you, and are correctly pointing out how Nolan mangled the original work, including the person who worked for years on translating the original story. I don't give a shit about YOUR piss-poor interpretation of Achilles or Sinon in Virgil's works, I care about what I expected to see in a movie adapting Odyssey.
>>222113729>"I would be ashamed to have written any of this script">"The writing is abysmal," she said. "None of the characters has convincing motivation for their actions or words.">"It lacks psychological, emotional, political and ethical depth"now, how do you argue against the female oxford professor that wrote the currently widest used translation and the one nolan referred to?
>>222121587>including the person who worked for years on translating the original storyLolLMAOYou mean the third wave feminist (picrel) whose only reason to rag on Nolan was due to him not making the film feminist enough? That's the person you're willing to go to bat and die on this hill for?! At least I know for sure now you're not a serious person and are just seeking validation on the internet.
>>222121857>everybody emoting>no strike connects>more emotingHow has he learned nothing since dark knight?
The decision to not include Achilles was deliberate. Why did Nolan not include him?
>>222121587>I don't give a shit about YOUR piss-poor interpretation of Achilles or Sinon in Virgil's works, I care about what I expected to see in a movie adapting Odyssey.If you gave a shit about a good interpretation of the story, you'd read Fagle's translation that actually embodies the tone and spirit of how the original Homer story would've been orated. The Wilson translation is for students just getting into classic lit studies, but is by no means the definitive version of the tale, nor does the writer's opinion on the film matter all that much since adaptation is a separate art form from literary translation.
>>222113729It’s not bad, it’s actually really good. It’s not great, though. The third act falls on its face and devolves into a Jason Bourne movie. Dialogue is also frequently stilted throughout the film and characters oscillate back and forth between speaking like modern dudebros and Shakespearean English. The theme of guilt also doesn’t work well for this story, in my opinion. Lastly, there are some casting issues. Basically everyone in the movie except for John Leguizamo is miscast, though Anne Hathaway and Robert Pattinson do a decent job. It’s a solid 6-7/10 film.
>>222113729because op is a faggot
>>222113729You can't tell me how to sound.
>>222121807Are you so fucking self-absorbed you don't realize people might not want shit shoehorned from other works, deviations or the director's ethos into the original epic? Just because you liked it and it works for you, don't mean that it's not a valid criticism from people who were expecting to see a faithful adaption of the Odyssey. If I wanted to see Nolan's modern interpretation of the Odyssey with the themes he is trying to portray, I would go read In The Heart of Darkness or watch Apocalypse Now which I felt convey much better the trauma of war with the ethereal world that is depicted in the Odyssey. Emily's beliefs and principles are her's alone and I'm not here to discuss her character. She clearly made her own judgment apart for them, based on own understanding of the source material (which she can then have her own opinion of) and what it felt they should have been translated into the big screen. She is not arguing for the movie including her own set of principles and beliefs, she is arguing against Nolan doing that and straying away from the original epic and she is absolutely correct about that. You're so brainrotted by this cultural warfare, you've been clouded by your lack of objectivity when reading into what other people are saying if they fit in the box you the people you dislike.
>>222121587Holy shit you are really good at smooth shaking. I’m taking notes dude, this is a master class. You got the other guy mad AF.
>>222121999because he's not in the odyssey at all
>>222113729The choices by the director, from the casting, color grading, costuming and dialogue, failed to make me believe in the world the film was trying to sell me on. At no point did I feel as if I was looking into another world, it all felt like a very expensive larp by a group of famous people.>>222121797Do you have a link to this? I'd like to read what she has to say.
>>222121857Same energy
>>222122217His ghost is, and it would have been memorable to include it.
>>222122003I'd be more than happy to hear what Fagle thought about it but unfortunately he is no longer among us, anon. I do think that anyone who has been tasked with translating the original work, putting years of their life into doing their best for it are much more of an authority in the subject that people who simply read the epic at some point in their life and then forgot about it. Those translators are entitled to share their thoughts on it, even if we know that a true faithful adaption is not always possible (and that's fine to a certain degree but when you start tweaking characterization and themes, I disgress, I think you're fucking up the original work and you might as well do your own original thing or at least a modernized reimagination like Romeo & Julieta from 1996).
>>222122136>Are you so fucking self-absorbed you don't realize people might not want shit shoehorned from other works, deviations or the director's ethos into the original epic?It's called an adaptation. Adaptations are free to pull from various sources and interpretations of one story if they exist.>Just because you liked it and it works for you, don't mean that it's not a valid criticism from people who were expecting to see a faithful adaption of the OdysseySee above>If I wanted to see Nolan's modern interpretation of the Odyssey with the themes he is trying to portray, I would go read In The Heart of Darkness or watch Apocalypse Now which I felt convey much better the trauma of war with the ethereal world that is depicted in the OdysseyNolan wasn't trying to emulate those same themes, he was making a point how the code of honor and hospitality and it's effects on Mycenean society>Emily's beliefs and principles are her's alone and I'm not here to discuss her character. She clearly made her own judgment apart for them, based on own understanding of the source material (which she can then have her own opinion of) and what it felt they should have been translated into the big screenHer beliefs and principles led to her writing the female characters as being slaves to the men and that Odysseus depiction was akin to a tyrant. Coloring the original work in a post modern lens only serves to piss off historians and honest book readers alike.She is not arguing for the movie including her own set of principles and beliefs, she is arguing against Nolan doing that and straying away from the original epic and she is absolutely correct about thatAgain, adaptation and translation are different arenas and Nolan never said he was wholly adapting her work but was inspired by it. >cultural warfareThe only cultural warfare being waged here is by bad actors who come in and act like Nolan put a torch to the classics when he merely provided a modernist take.
>>222122420>he was making a point how the code of honor and hospitalityeroded*
>>222122420But after all you wrote you realize the whole point of this discussion, right? You're fine and satisfied with Nolan's modernist take on this epic tale, and that's okay, it spoke to you about things that you felt were important and transmutated the story and that's a valid opinion. My view of it is the opposite. I didn't want any of these things, I wanted to see an ancient story filmed with modern effects that was rotted in the culture, themes, narrative and characterization of ancient greek times. To try and see things from your perspective and the flaws I see within it, which is why I can't agree with your modernist take.. I don't care for what Nolan thinks about those set of rules (hospitality, code of honor, mutual respect) because the way he went to portray it lacks the underlying foundation why it's important in the first place - we never see how the war starts (thus we can't assert if Odysseus and his men were in the wrong), we never glimpse at how other setpieces of that civilization interact with one another (and thus see the strength of those estabilished rules versus archaic ones), we're never told why those things were critical for creating a trust system that allowed such a civilization to emerge (thus justifying it as the cardinal sin that collapses the Bronze Age) - we don't even see how these principles are important for the everyday region of the folks who live there. Ultimately, Nolan seems to be speaking more to the audience about the importance of those sets of rules within OUR own civilization, rather than the civilization of the ancient greeks and falls short of doing anything but using the Odyssey to parrot his beliefs and messages.
>>222113729It has been 30 years and Nolan still can't write dialogue.
>>222113729All Nolan movies are visually dull and depressing trash, allegedly he’s affiliated with intelligence agency so no wonder his movies are demoralizing to look at
>>222113729Christopher Nolan
>>222121807she's an autist and definitely more intelligent than 99% of the posters on this board, nolan changed a ton from the original text so no wonder she's upset
From what I've seen it's grey, boring and the dialogue and action scenes are classic nolan garbage
The fuck is a chud?
>>222113729The script was written by a Trojan faggot
>>222113856this
>>222113832SARSSDO NOT REDEEM HORSESARSS
>>222113729>explain why it's bad without sounding like a chudNo, fuck you faggot. Explain why it's good without sounding like a tranny jeet. And how much money it scammed from goycattle is not an argument.
>>222124051SAAAR IT IS NO SHART BUT IT IS BEST BIG SCREEN MOVIE WE HAVE SINCE SHART
>>222113729Wouldn't know. Didn't watch. Won't watch.
>>222119984>Circe0/10
>>222113729It just isn't the Odyssey. It doesn't honor Homer or the prevelant themes in the Odyssey. On the contrary, it twists and disfigures them. It would had removed the trojan horse, cyclops, change the names and slightly alter the atory and been it's own thing it would have been far better and at least oroginal.
>>222113832>sadly its the best big screen entertainment we got this year so farYou obviously haven't seen pic related yet, or if you did, it filtered you hard.
>>222113729you're retarded.
I laughed when I saw the Trojan's LARP armor. Someone please explain what metal in the world is both white and grainy looking, like it's made out of coquina
>>222121857Embarrassing. By this point in the movie I was so fatigued and wanting to leave that I just didn't care anymore and barely paid attention
>>222113729Notice how no one praising this garbage can explain why it's good beyond surface level vagueness
Why was it even rated R?
>>222128295Because they said "fuck" twice.There was almost zero violence and absolutely zero nudity.
>>222119984far too generous, to the point of seeming shilly
>>222113729It's not bad bad. Just dull and bland. Honestly, I feel the same about the recent Dune movies. They are movies done well, but I feel like they try too hard, it lacks SOVL.
I get nolan isn't much of an actor director but just about everyone was bad in it, regardless of the meme casting
>>222113729I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why it's so good in the first place beyond "owning the chuds".
>>222113729https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WnBwtaLzBoc
it wasn't woke enough.Odysseus was BLACK!
>>222122003>Fagle's translation that actually embodies the tone and spirit of how the original Homer story would've been Cowper's translation is by far the best, most authentic experience an English speaker can have reading Homer. Fagles neuters the virility, the fire and passion of Homers characters. The Iliad or Odyssey between Fagles and Cowper aren't even comparable: it's like reading two different poems.
>>222113729I kind of liked the movie because I like "sword and sandals" type movies and if you like that genre you are used to seeing much worse. Still, the movie had the potential to be much more epic and wasted it considering the budget, cast and the greatest original story. I have seen more epic boat and raid scenes in shows like Vikings or Game of Thrones.
Nolan's works are usually bloated & nonsensical. He needs a better editor
>>222113729tom holland and anne hatheways performances are wooden and robotic, granted they don't have much to work with, but its a testament to matt damon's skill as an actor that he can deliver the same wooden robotic terrible lines and make it sound like something a human would say
>>222113729Its not bad but it damn well shouldn't be 3 fucking hours longI feel like the Argos scene at the end wasn't as good as it could be
>>222113729Just got back from the theater. I liked it well enough. I really wish nolan would get over the non-linear disjointed framing devices, I don't know that it really adds anything to the narrative of the movie except maybe to keep the suitor scenes parsed through the movie instead I guess. Also wish he would have taken more time with the cyclops scene. It feels like they get in the cave, cyclops shows up, eats a dude, goes to sleep, leaves, then comes right back and goes to sleep again.
>>222113729No.
the cyclops's eye looks stupid as fuck. it looks like a big pussy on his forehead. and you can ever see where his eyes actually are hidden by makeup.
>could've casteded HUNTER S as helen of troy>chose some already famous african lady insteadyawn...hollywood is so boring, even when "woke".
>>222126591>all the movies you like are slop>all the slop I like is actually kino, you just got filteredI almost admire this level of small-minded autism. just to be so vacuous yet confident must be its own sort of power
>>222113729Because the film is at war with itself. It doesn't know if it's an adaptation of the odyssey or some hackneyed modern interpretation. lol
>>222128959You can't really fix his movies in editing because he doesn't get enough coverage.
>>222113729>Kids these days don't respect their guests>the west has fallen
>>222121857what a retarded ass story
>>222113729The Bad:>Supplants Greek writing with modern day Christian, particularly catholic morals. >Removes all complexity from Odysseus and reduces him to a guilt-ridden mess.>Not a single other character gets any development.>Odysseus's entire character arc the movie spent time on building is overwritten at the end as he's turned into John Wick.>Absolutely dogshit costume work. The Giants and Agamemnon are the worst offenders. Also the trojan horse itself looked really anachronistic.>The action is very John Wick-y/Steven Segal-y>Female characters are all one note- victims. None have the capacity for initiative, agency, or doing evil.The good: >Actually does feel like an epic>Sound and music were too notch and very fitting >Damon does great for the role he was cast in>It's a good movie despite being inauthentic, simplified, and overly psychiatrized
>>222131357Don't you dare diss John Wick, boy! The high-octane and grounded choreography that Stahelski and Keanu put so much effort to bring to the big screen puts the Odyssey to shame. If there's one aspect that the series deserves to be acknowledged for is the stellar action scenes.
I actually really enjoyed the movie BUT I gotta be honest im tired of characters (it's usually the men) regretting what they done and being shameful of shit that's cool. it kinda sucks that a big part of the movie is Damonyssus comes to regret his actions and rethink his whole damn world view because of it. If this were made 20 years ago he would be a triumphant Odysseyus and all the heroic shit he does would be seen as good and cool not "actually maybe we were the bad guys all along?". hollywod loves doing that these days especially when it comes to male characters
>>222125211So no one is willing to explain why this movie is supposed to be good. Figures. None of you troons making this thread have even seen it because you know it's trash and not faggoty enough for you. Come to think of it, that's the best part of this movie. I just answered my own question. No fag stuff.
>>222113729Besides obvious subversion and destruction of the ideals in the myth I was surprised by just how shoddy and cheap everything looked. It was like 3 beaches two forests and a castle. I can’t believe it cost 250 mil. Things like Lord of the rings and Lawrence of Arabia make this look like a high school film project. The Laestrygonians looked they were wearing Halloween store costumes over under armor spandex. You could see the rubber pieces bending and bouncing around. Nolan also seems to never have been outside (aside from movie making adventures) or completed any physical tasks in his life. He thinks Greeks rowed their boats in armor? That’s retarded. Speaking of retarded…how retarded is it to film the first movie ever fully shot in imax and not even focus the camera? There were medium wide dialog shots fully out of focus for no reason. There were rack focuses back and forth that landed on background extras that weren’t speaking. The circe witch lady dialog and acting with Damon was first time film school acting bad. I can see why the rest of the film is a random mishmash of edits to driving bass notes because when a scene has to make sense Nolan is now totally incompetent as a filmmaker. That he is taken seriously at all is a testament to marketing and brainwashing.
>>222113729>seriously casting travis scottok, lol
>>222113729Is it true there are no actual sex scenes between Odysseus and like calypso, circe, etc?That would make sense, Nolan doesn't want to depict a white man actually getting pussy.
>>222113729why is it rated R?
>>222134571there is a damon and hathawayu are talking in bed they start kissing and then the scene switches to something else and thats it
>>222133607>hollywod loves doing that these days especially when it comes to male charactersYeah they've completely emasculated men in film, it'd devious.
>>222130813Who are you quoting? I was just expressing my opinion with a little ribbing. Lighten up. Have you even seen MOTOR CITY? it's great.
>>222117181>and did nothing to make the audience think otherwiseExcept call him Sinon and had everyone in the movie refer to him as Sinon
>>222113729I can't because I don't care enough to either shill or mock this movie. It's really not all that controversial and I don't see why people are pretending to care one way or the other. There are certainly woke movies and they deserve to be ridiculed but this really doesn't seem like one. I think the chuds are pretending to care in the same way that people complain about cultural appropriation, eurocentrism or structural racism which are all largely imaginary.
>>222132152Nigga the fourth (and some parts of the third) John Wick movie is literally a polished Steven Seagal movie. It's comical how retarded it's action is. The bad guys just come to Keanu one after another in orderly fashion to be killed in the most retardedly simplistic ways possible.
>>222135112>360 and walk awaykys shill
>>222113729There's no emotional weight to anything. You don't care about a single character in the movie. Nolan's dialogue - like all of his movies - is horrendous. He's a pretty picture maker, but I don't really see how he's much better than Zack Snyder. Any great acting performances in his movies aren't because of him, they're in spite of him. He's extremely overrated because he makes midwits feel smart by getting duped for 2 hours.
>>222113856The lighting wasn't shit; it was just mediocre. Which, in current day, is better than most.
>>222134667They say fuck twice.
>>222113729It's great evidence why you don't shoot a film exclusively with IMAX cameras
>>222113889Philoctetes, Teucer, and Meriones were better. Eurytus and Heracles were even better than them
>>222121807She didn’t like that they made Odysseus a “wife guy” instead of a rapist Chad. Did you even read her critique?
>>222136985And a bunch of extras were better than matt damon. What's your point? It's pretty gay to have a bow only you're strong enough to string then you end up shooting it like a fucking queer.
>>222118621>The nonlinear narrative only serves to provide the illusion of depth to a very generic Nolan action plot grafted onto the faintest trace of Greco-Roman myth, which isn't helped by the characteristically weak dialogue in Nolan moviesThis. The dialogue and action scenes are some of Nolan's worst.
>>222138749It was amazing how they fucked up something so simple, given all the emphasis they put on Odysseus' skills with the bow right out the gates.
ive been watching the telesync version and im pretty bored tom holland is a retard btw
>>222138749matt damons old arms had trouble pulling the prop bow to a full draw. he had to shoot it like that. to be fair, good will hunting was like 30 years ago
>>222113729it has ugly nog and a tranny in iti'm a stud btw not a chud
>>222114421>>222124051Why do you think every opinion you disagree with must come from India?
>>222136515I don't get it.
>>222134667R for Retarded
Homer is just a shit writer
>>222113893This. Fuck that talentless hack.
>>222113729I don't like how they retrojected Christian values on the Achaeans who lived thousands of years before Christian "Morality"
>>222141285>homer>writing
>>222138749>a bow only you're strong enough to stringStringing the bow isn't just about strength, it isn't a normal bow, it was a recurved bow and there is a special technique that you would only know if you were familiar with that kind of bow, which a bunch of snot nosed foppish suitors who have been sitting around his hall for years would know.
>>222113729not enough gay sex
I thought i was going to see a war why am I listening to badly mixed and badly written dialogue 90% of the time
>>222113729>Our age of Bronze is collapsing...
>>222113729globohomo made flesh. too many boring scenes & speeches. circe - awful. that 6-headed monster - awful, syfy tier. muh zeus' law. the calypso storyline - awful. the final fight - horribly shot. soundtrack - bass n' synth lmao.
>>222113856the only good thing was the blueness of the sea. and cyclop when he got to the sea
spend 250 million and have burger king crown tier helmets nice
>>222142649AGAMEMNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!
>>222141401So not one out of 100 guys has ever strung a recurve bow before? I highly doubt that. They made it a point that he's the only one who can string that bow so something about it must be special and the only thing that could be special is that it requires a great deal of strength to accomplish. I've strung recurve bows before and matt damon wasn't using correct technique himself.
>movie bad because there's a few brown people in itkek, imagine being this fragile
>>222113729Boomer Vietnam war slop.his sound mixing is as usual terrible and the dialog is garbage
>>222141312Read chapter VI of the Aeneid
>>222113832Of course when I want realism i think of ancient Greek epics where the gods swoop down and interfere in mortals lives every minute. That's what I want for my realistic setting.
>>222113873And shit audio, although that's a Nolan staple.
