Did Michael Jordan really need to be a petty sociopath asshole to win all those rings? He seems extremely unlikable.
>>222138078It’s a pretty common trait of GOATs.
>>222138120Forgot pic. Kasparov and Carlsen are also jackasses.
>>222138078He just needed Pippen. He wouldn't have won shit without Pippen.
>>222138078Yes. To reach upper levels of success you have to be an asshole.
>>222138161Michael Jordan's son fucked Pippens wife btw. I'm surprised he hasn't gone insane and killed Michael
>>222138078>Jordan: type A dickhead, gambling addict>Woods: womanizer, drunk driver>MJ: either diddled little boys or at minimum had weird and inappropriate relationships with them>Brady: abandoned his family for another ringGOATs are often shitheads. Being the best at something usually means being severely deficient in other aspects of your life.
>>222138078>>222138161Lebron James is a terrible overrated basketball player
>>222138078EVERY superstar is an asshole that’s how they keep their competitive edge.
>>222138401LeBron is top 3 and he isn’t 2 or 3. Jordan chuds have been coping for years but the GOAT debate was over once he passed Kareem in points all time
>>222138319>perennial first round exit until Pippen shows up to carry you>Jordan bloodline about to end because sons are failures, have to resort to Pippen's sloppy secondsI bet there's a Pippen jersey in the trunk of every jordan nascar car too
>>222138401Lebron James would have won 8 rings with Pippen.
>>222138448Jordan's sons may be losers but at least he didnt nepo them to the nba
>>222138444No really, he’s ass. The league had to change the rules in the early 00s so this dude can thrive. He has no moves or skill
>>222138475Name 5 players objectively better than LeBron
>>222138475And the league had to change the rules in the '90s because the Detroit Pistons beat the shit out of Jordan and they wanted their poster child to win. The league would have done the same thing in the '60s to help Wilt Chamberlain win but the majority loved to see the Boston Celtics whip his ass constantly.
>>222138335Brady abandoned his family to go 8-9, not win a ring.
>>222138592Oh yeah kek
>>222138578Wilt was a choking ball hogging fraud who never realized that stat padding doesn’t win games.
>>222138451He barely won a ring with an allstar team in Miami.
Apehoop is retarded who gives a shit?
>>222138614>ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SPORTSBALL??? DONT YOU KNOW THATS PETTY TRIBALISM TO DISTRACT YOU!!!
>>222138078He can be a dick, because he was that good.
>>222138578Are you referring to the “Jordan rules”? Those weren’t actual rules that were changed retard, it was just the name of the Pistons strategy to stop Jordan because they were scared of him so they had to cheat and make the game harder for himLebron on the other hand is an absolute garbage player so the league actually had to change the rules to make the game easy for him
>>222138569WiltKareemBirdJordan
>>222138569LeBrons not even better than Jokic
>>222138319Wasn’t Jordan himself weirded out by this? Seems to reflect more on the ex wife than it does on Pippen
>>222138650Stop worshipping would be highschool dropouts
>>222138730LeBron can't even run and dribble. He had the makings of a great player, but the league catered to him too much so he never developed.
>>222138335Gretzky and Messi are nice people
>>222138696>WiltPlayed with cans and has less championships. Not better than LeBron. >Kareem Fair, this one can be argued. >Bird Bird is great but LeBron has more rings and MVP’s. If he didn’t fuck up his back he’d be in top 5 contention.>Jordan. Had far better teammates than LeBron did for most of his career.
>>222138612He gets extra points for winning a ring with that shitty team in Cleveland. Minus Lebron, that is probably the worst team to ever win an NBA championship.
>>222138730Chokic is past his prime and can’t even get the Nuggets past the first round
>>222138783Pissi Rigatoni is a refbabby snitch who everybody hates since the WC finalNo clue what Gretzky’s like
>>222138696Wilt loses points for choking against the Celtics so many times. His tombstone will read THE CELTIC'S NUMBER ONE BITCH AND OCCASIONAL NBA PLAYER
>>222138803He could if he’d stack his team with better players but he has more integrity than the modern nba monkey
For me? It's Allen "fuck them kids" Iverson.
>>222138785>Had far better teammates than LeBron did for most of his career.Lebron had a revolving door of all-stars playing with him
>>222138826He's been dead over 25 years now
>*ruins the game*People like to point out Curry for popularizing the 3 but this faggot pioneered the cancerous iso ball-3-flop meta. He singlehandedly broke the game so hard they had to crack down
>>222138843A solid core of good role players >>> Allstars. Plus LeBron had to work with total dogshit for much of his career
>>222138877Forgot pic
Dayum Nigguh dis fit is FIRE!! Imagine enabling niggers to do buy dumb shit like this
>>222138878Anthony Davis and Doncic are role players?
>>222138897Agreed. Biggest fraud in the modern NBA
>>222138401It's a weird phenomenon where Lebron made his teammates on the court better but didn't make the organizations better like other star players. He's the shitcoin or penny stock of pro sports
>>222138897He’s such a cancer I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a cia trainee sent in to demoralize the game of basketball
>>222138926Can't fault him for exploiting a broken rule but it was the most cancerous MVP prime to watch in the history of the sport. Worst part is he's inspired players like SGA and Luka to flop too
Niggers are dumb monkeys.
>>222138906He had help with his Miami and LA rings, but that Cavaliers team he won with was garbage. Kyrie Irving was the 2nd best player on that team and he's trash. And the 3rd best might as well have been a homeless person off the street. Winning with that team counts as 3 rings. Jordan or anyone else couldn't have won with those teammates. Give credit where credit is due.
White boys be like >this is my GOAT!
>>2221389922016 saved his legacy after the disaster that was 2011. It's crazy how that one ring singlehandedly built dirks legacy
>>222138878Lebron has been with a superteam almost every year since 2011, the majority of his career
>>222138078>He seems extremely unlikable.He was which is funny that Space Jam made the plot that everyone liked Michael so much they were afraid to be honest with him lest they hurt his feelings.People that chase and achieve greatness are often assholes obsessively motivated by their pursuit.
>>222139003Dirk Norwitzki is my GOAT yes
>>222138979Jordan is a black man who hates niggers
Stop worshipping niggers
>>222138992Kyrie Irving is pound for pound arguably the most skilled player in history you fucking retard and he hit the biggest shot of lebrons career, stop spreading lies on my /tv/
>>222138444Lebron is so much worse than Jordan and a chronic sook that benefits from refball.
>>222139039
>>222139024well he is charismatic enough that people excuse his problems as him being competitive, which he backed up by being good. He wasn't straight up mean to people outside of basketball.
>>222138897Is he muslim?
>>222139039He hates white people, too. Basically a misanthrope.
>>222139088>In his prime, James Harden maintained an insane routine: he'd party at strip clubs and drink heavily until 5 a.m., show up for practice at 7 a.m., take a short nap during the day, play an NBA game that night, and then go right back to partying and drinking all over again.I'm assuming no
>>222139113The beard fooled me
>>222139088No he’s just ugly and using a homeless beard to hide his ugly ass buck tooth rat faced mug
>>222138578absolute RETARD take, see>>222138659t.Actually watched the 88 finals live
>>222139075>He wasn't straight up mean to people outside of basketball.True, I think his reputation as an asshole has been exaggerated over the years, probably because of his unapologetic nature and things like "Republicans buy sneakers too" but he's always been a charismatic and affable guy off court. Having said that I also think it's undeniable he would've been a terrible teammate whose antics no one would put up with if they weren't winning on court.
bird > michael
>>222139404Kareem >>> Bird, Bron, and Michael. Fuck, Kareem is arguably the GOAT
>>222138161No shit. Even MJ admits that. Bird needed Mchale, Parish, and Ainge.Magic needed Kareem and Worthy.Shaq needed Kobe.Kobe needed Pau.Robinson needed Duncan.So on and so forth.
>>222139363>he would've been a terrible teammatewell imagine you were the best player and some teammate wants you to "share" the ball more with him so he can score more. All that does is make the team less good and you win less. So what's the point then? That was his attitude, and he was correct in that.
>>222139477>team sports needs good teammates to winwow, shocking
>>222139042Based Kyrie Irving super fan. The conversation we should be having is why is Kyrie the GOAT and who can beat him? Jordan and Lebron fags on suicide watch.
>>222139505I know, right?
>>222139515A few months back when KDs private gc got leaked it came out he was seething kyrie made friends with luka
>>222139482Freezing out rookies he didn't rate is one thing but there's a lot of stories about his behaviour with teammates that goes beyond that. Can't punch people in the face just because they're disagreeing with you. Or I guess you can if you're Michael Jordan, but you shouldn't.
>>222138078He just wanted the same dedication he was putting from his teammates and that would always make you seem like an asshole. Jordan is the true goat along kyrie irving
>>222139515Kyrie Irving averaged 30 points on 50/50/100 shooting splits in the 2016 finals after going down 3-1. He won the Cavs their only championship ever. Thank you based Kyrie you are a hero!
Better sports discussions on /tv/ than on shitty /sp/. Some things never change
>>222139566athletes fighting isn't uncommon.
>>222138569JordanKobeMagicDuncanShaq
>>222139621/sp/ got colonized by Euros talking about their shitty divegrass leagues
>>222139621Posers on /sp/ wouldn't even rate my man Kyrie. /tv/ knows it's ball.
>>222139662>>222139586You going to watch Kyrie back next season with Flagg?
>>222139643There aren't that many athletes that have a history of fighting and arguing with virtually all their teammates across a number of teams. Jordan is pretty unique in that regard but everyone accepts it's just part of who he was. Guy still had a chip on his shoulder about a high school coach that didn't start him when talking at his hall of fame speech 30 years later.
>>222139652>Kobe>MagicLmao
>>222138992This is a kyrie board so please shut the fuck up about a sport you don't know nothing about
>>222139691Agreed, neither should be in the top 5 but definitely better players than lebron
if you don't watch sports you don't have to idolize a bunch of sleazy retards
>>222139682I like how when i was growing up, coaches always said how MJ got cut from his high school team and it's some sort of motivational thing. They don't mention that he got cut from the varsity team when he was in the 9th grade, lmao
>>222139454Agreed, especially if you take into account his college career
>>222139682Just because he didn't fuck bitches at the club with the rest? Just because he would tell you to your face you are fucking up the game? Just because he exposed his teammates by working 3 times harder?Of course mediocrity hates people like Jordan
>>222139721He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
There's no better drug than winning. Think of him as a drug dealer to his mates. But without the legal problems. You would accept the downside
>>222139721Kyrie Irving made the high school varsity team when he was in 6th grade. That's how good the true GOAT was.
Many people just look at overall accolades to determine the best players, like this imbecile here >>222139745Me, I say roll the footage and add in the context of the time period. For example, there’s no way I’d put Kareem or Bill Russel over guys like Shaq or Olajuwon. NBA didn’t even start to get a broader competitiveness until 90s
>>222139772Jordan never spoke up to Pippen or Rodman. He was an asshole with waterboys and benchwarmers, but new to keep his mouth shut with the people keeping him afloat.
>>222139772There's a way to do things. There's a reason Michael's attitude with teammates is spoken about whereas that's never discussed with guys like Russell, Kareem, Magic or others top tier champions.
GOAT
>>222139833Pippen was too much of a bitch to call him out
>>222139816he was playing against 17 year olds at age 11?
I am so happy that gen z and alpha are too autistic to play sports. inshallah, the sport will die in 10 years and be forgotten in 20
Yes he did, did you see how badly all of his opponents were shit talking him? Like constantly? They turned him into that, you ever watch a documentary that has Michael talk about his time playing NBA you'll understand. Not only does he say that his attitude was brought on by other people, it'll casually cut to the other people saying "yeah I said that about Michael to his face"
>>222138788'94 Rockets might have been worse. Hakeem Olajuwon carried that team hard
>>222139930Didn't they win back to back championships?
>>222139930I like to think Robert Horry brought his luck powers to that team. The NBA player with the most championship rings outside of random players from that crazy '60s Celtics dynasty
>>222140007No Drexler for the first Championship anyway. It was a weak lineup that got lucky from Jordan briefly retiring and barely beat the Knicks that year
>>222140046You’re right I was mistaken
So the "flu" game was clearly just a hangover right?
All the greats are psychos. You have to have a win at all costs mentality.
>>222138078he actually comes across as a good teammate in this unlike wannabes like Kobe and Lebron
>>222140616Kobes mamba mentality was just a shitty attempt to be jordan
Who else is disappoint in the 13 flints releasing in August? The material looks like dog shit compared to the cherry.
