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>>222144286
BLEUGH

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FRAUDbert...

George cannot disown HOTD and then write completely unironically
>So, Rhaegar died because of an oopsie accident vision at the wrong time, oopsie!

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Play isnt canon and Robert won fair and square

>>222144352
>ack!

>>222144286
Oh yeah i just remembered that there should be a new episode of that bore fest, let's see if rhaenyra or whatever is going to be talking to someone in a room or maybe a balcony.

>>222144286
I still can’t believe this guy killed Ahorse Ahai

So Rhaegar had a dragon dream here when he said was saying "Wait"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6GW03WsFgU

>>222144352
Final words are cursing Bloodraven for fucking with him at the worst time.

>>222144344
death to the savage queen !

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soon

>>222144395
>talking to someone in a room or maybe a balcony.
spoiler that shit!

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>targs brought down by their marriage with the dornish
Wow, if ONLY there was a king who wanted to prevent this

my hate for those back-stabbing Dornish whores is now vindicated. thanks george

i cant jerk off to the women in this show

>>222144533
Then jerk off to the men.

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>>222144443
>Brynden's face when his attempt to call Rhaegar on Weirwood zoom led to the destruction of the Targaryan bloodline

>>222144569
That was the idea
Like with Baelor, or his half brothers
The motherfucker won't stop kinslaying

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>>222144286
You guys have no idea how good it has been seeing all the copium on xitter because of the Mad King play. Tons and tons of fans realizing that the fat bastard never had an insane twist up his sleeve, everything about the Rhaegar x Lyanna storyline is just as straightforward and simple as anyone could have conceived. That one Mad Daenerys hint is just the cheery on top.

>>222144286
>After Jaime kills Aerys and sits the throne, Robert & his men enter from one side of the stage, Tywin & Cersei from the other. Big canon contradiction since Robert isn’t present here in the books.

the play is not canon, it's a fan fiction made by retards.

>>222144443
>"It was me, Baelor Hightower, I made you fart so that Elia would marry Rhapegar and then bring the end of the Targ dynasty."

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Reminder

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>>222144344
The Iron Throne made it quite clear who’s the true magnanimous ruler, and who’s the usurper

>>222144591
GRRM approved it and it's using his name and production company.

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THE TIDE!

>>222144597
Kek
The fart that tore a kingdom apart

did ned actually fight with his retarded giant sword or was it only used for executions?

FUCK TARGS AND FUCK THE DORNISH. THE YRONWOODS SHOULD'VE THROWN THE RHOYNAR BACK TO SEA

>>222144637
it's mostly for decoration. He's never fought with Ice.

The play confirms fAegon is Rhaegars child. Varys knows Elia is scheming and has plenty of time to get the child away as the Lannisters approach. Elia was probably down with the swap in case Tywin did go all batshit.

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>Rhaegar wants to breed a child of prophecy? Need to beat him, Rhaella we are having SEX tonight, we gotta OUTBREED the little brat
What a fucking chad

>>222144687
But why would She not save Rhaenys?

>Rhaella was an abusive mother to Vizzy III and then goes on a rant begging the gods for Dany to be crazy

>>222144620
>aerys gives him a jar of water with some splinters floating around in memorial of Bobby B’s parents
How do you respond with out being mad??

>>222144286
OG Mountain was peak casting. Too bad he fucked off to make the Hobbit slop and HBO binned him from coming back.

>>222144344
>Ugh, I'm bleeding!

>>222144709
Harder to conceal the older child and perhaps under the idea she would be spared similar to how the Lannister‘s spared Sansa. Women are kind of useless, only good for marriage. She was after all half Targaryen half Martel. She may not have thought that Tywin would’ve killed a small girl, but a male heir definitely.

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>the t-ide...

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>house bombaclot
rastafari northern islanders, words "ja mon", sigil: milk of the poppy behind crossed swords
>house west side ryders, words "ryda4lyfe", sigil: dual war horse with golden horse armor
extremely aggressive light cavalry
>house blackwood, words "we do not rape", sigil: 4 blackwoods surrounding a southern girl
elite skirmishers and right hand of the starks, often committing dark deeds in service of the more noble houses, though the latter is a mere rumor

>>222144703
funny how this play justified everything Aerys was paranoid about

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If mad queen dany was only D&D fanfic like danystans like to claim there's no way in hell martin would allow the play to strongly foreshadow it
so yeah mad queen dany is pretty much canon, it just won't be as dumb as the show

>>222144703
>spawn the princess of ruin

>>222144773
>the dorinsh were trying to coup him
>rhaella was trying to curse his children
>rhaegar had gone insane and was a weak little coward
>brandon was an asshole who had it coming
The only thing left to confirm is that someone else put the wildfire under kings landing

Literally the most vindicated man in history

>>222144286
The witch looks like Tommy Wiseau.

>>222144340
>Rhaegar's death was an oopsie
>Lucerys' death was an oopsie
>Joffrey sending a guy to kill Bran because he misunderstood something Robert said
>Maekar killing Baelor
At last I truly see.
A Song of Incidental killings and Fuck-ups.

>>222144778
This nigga thinks he’s getting dem books lmao.

Is Fabien our guy? He went on a live podcast autismo rant over he loves team Green and cannot stand seeing any BLACK character on his screen (what did he meant?)

https://x.com/ThronesUpdates/status/2082380330305048651

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danyggers coping on twitter is being pretty funny desu

with George giving this the stamp of approval,he really is a HACK

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>>222144824
Yeah some anon made this picture

>>222144344
Out King can litterally have sex on that chair and finish without a single scratch. If this isnt legittimacy, i dont know what else can suffice

>>222144824
>>222144850
it wasn't just any podcast either. it was the official HBO one they air after every episode

Arthur Dayne was a homo and Ashara was just a massive whore. There’s nothing good in this universe.

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>biggest loredrop since F&B
>it's dogshit

>>222144767
>THE TIDECATCHERS NED

>>222144773
Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean they’re not after you.

all the characters are just standing in rooms talking nonsense and doing random side quests because the writers want the battle of tumbletown to be the finale

>>222144876
>dorniggers
Should have known what to expect.
Around those who are brown never let your guard down as Viserys said.

>>222144778
Shes built the final villain for the title of Azor Azai to Jon, even if i think he will still love them (hence her murdering will awaken his Azor Ahai)
Reminder that just like Cersei Dany Is a very late addiction to the ASOIAF plot. The earliest drafts didnt had her character and Martin isnt the type of guy to completely change the ending he planned since the start

I don't have a LOT of issues with the revealed information, that there was nothing between ned and ashara was already obvious
However, a few things
>Rhaegar was secretly the greatest fighter in history but nobody at the trident saw their two commanders fighting
>Elia was ok with Rhaegar cucking her for some stupid prophecy
>Lyanna didn't just fall in love with Rhaegar, but actively spurred him on to follow the prophecy
>Rhaella was also obsessed with prophecies
It all leaves a sour taste in the mouth, I don't see what a lot of these things add to the story, it makes the story lamer imo

I hope this is not actually canon

>>222144916
i wonder if they killed ormund or take him to S4. i wish they pick the latter because james norton is a beast

>>222144955
>the prophecy
>prophecies
i bet the prophecy shit in HotD was martin's idea too. fuck this senile boomer

All this reads like HOTD level writing, so why complain about the show.

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>>222144884
Fat fuck is probably laughing right now

>>222144955
it is, these sister fuckers are the author's pet. George has shown his hand since he revealed that Aegon I conquered the Seven Kingdoms for some prophecy

>>222144286
got

where can I read the lore drops

>>222145015
https://x.com/got_onstage/status/2082210751121445223

>>222144799
She is way cuter than Tommy.

>>222145031
What the fuck is with this gay-ass format of putting one spoiler per tweet?
Why not just put all of them on one Pastebin or even on tweet? Didn't Twitter remove the word limit for tweets like over a decade ago?

>>222144778
Mad queen Dany is basically 100% confirmed
it was obvious when it happened too, D&D would never set up their favorite character to be a villian, so the order had to come direct from George.
It may not be close to how the show did it, but Dany will burn King's landing, the play only just confirmed it won't be some kind sacrifice peasants won't know the context for.

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>>222145098
>way cuter
Well, at least you stopped calling her “hot”

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>>222145202
I like her.

Yeah I can see why he's not finishing the story, he has gone completely fucking senile

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>>222144778
Good. We love mad queen Dany

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>If the Fat Man ended the saga at least before the Coronahoax he would da likely get his original ending
>Instead now if we will ever have and ending it will be a Frankenstein ending with shoehorned all these stupid idess about prophecies, soft character retcons, strong women, male friendship = being gay and somehow fucking tides PTSD his senile brain birthed in the last years hinted in the Play

Yup its over

>>222145281
*we would da likely got
*all these stupid ideas

>>222145250
Have you seen the play and heard the dialogue?

Squealing like a pig and smelling like a privy

>>222144340
It didn’t need a reason for Rhaegar to lose, it was obviously established that Rhaegar was a nerd anime boy and Bobby B was a D1 athlete
Unless he is also trying to retcon Robert’s strength
Ffs just retire old man

>>222145301
So the cope now is that the leaks are fake and we are being lied to?

>>222144824
oh wow an actor being paid by the network is talking about how great the [choose your side marketing tagline] is, i am going to listen to what they say because it's definitely not paid content!

>>222145156
I don't know why so many people are against it.
Just because D&D completely fucked up the idea on TV doesn't mean that GRRM can't do it way better.
It's all about execution.

D&D > GRRM

>>222145316
Old Martin Is clueless enough to believe in the anime meme that a shy nerd that studied the blade and is faster can defeat a uberman two times taller and three times heavier that uses a two hands Warhammer like a toothbrush

>>222145202
I swear to god the casting director for this shit has something against hot women after D&D told them to pick up hot women with big tits.

>>222145281
It’s so odd
Why is this action packed revolution a play in the first place
Gurm is unironically a moron who’s Trump derangement syndrome means all men must be either gay, helpless, or pure evil

TWOW would be shit anyways if he released it.

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>>222145225
There are better witches to fall for

>>222145225
I think she's beautiful. I would fold within seconds

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why has this scene generated the most discourse in the fandom this season? no one is even talking about the butcher's ball now.

>>222145325
Alicent's actress that keep talking shit about her own character calling her a "repressed housewife" and a "Moms for Trump parody" then?

>>222145281
>male friendship = being gay
Lmao, don’t tell me that Gurm turned Dayne into another Jon Con

nigger targs

nigger velaryons

nigger starks

who's next?

for me it's nigger faith of the seven.

>>222145443
parroting 3rd wave feminism bullet points will probably increase your salary and standing with the network, if anything.

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RHAENYRA THE PROPHECIES

>>222144454
Didn't like this actor in Andor and I doubt I'll like him in HOTD

>>222145442
>Men defend Hugh's rational approach ti their recent challenges and propose some pratical solution
>Women defend the pajeeta's right to have a foid irrational meltdown over nothing of which Hugh had any role or could do anything to prevent, she just wants to start a tantum for the sake of it

Normal stuff

>>222145442
Why was Hugh so tonedeaf? Leaves his wife alone in all this chaos to seek glory and expects to be greeted like some saviour?

>>222144006 #
Watch the bleeding star be something retarded, like a banner or another bloodstained object with a star on it.

>women seething eternally that Elia was okay with Rhaegar "cheating" on her
>No smoke for Rhaenyra "cheating" on Laenor because he was okay with it

Why are they like this?

>>222145455
Apparently according to the last Martin retcon in the Play every single dornishmen is a queer and every single dornishwoman an ambitious bisexual slut with multiple foreign lovers as their men wouldnt be able to continue their accursed race

>>222145535
no one gives a shit about house of the tranny unc

>>222145443
The leaks, indicating the high towers are actually anti-magic religious forward powerhouses is interesting and sets up the main story very well. Everyone thinks the high towers are summoning magic to fight Euron. What if in reality they were setting up a religious Crusade against the Lannisters?

>>222145462
House of the Negro

>>222145548
>this is how incels think

>>222145585
George is not an incel.

Martin never really criticized D&D much. Now you know why

>>222145332
GRRM likely would do it better
but Danystans are crazy and can't handle the fact that she's supposed to be a villian in the end

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>>222145548
At this point, fat man is just trolling

>>222145202
>>222145225
I mean it when I say she might be the worst actress on the entire show. I didn't think it was possible to worse than the nogs but she is.

>>222145535
Women are unironically mostly fine with their handsome chads husband to have side pieces or concubines (It grinds their fantasy of being so hot the gigachad seducer that can fuck any woman and yet still choose them over anyone else).

But a second wife? This trigger their intrasexual competition and their primordial fear that the provider could abandon them and their kids in favor of the other wife and her Kids
Its more the confirmation of the second marriage than the actuall infidelity that triggers the Rhaegar/Elia femoid shippers

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>>222145171
Reminder that Aerys was a good and noble king beloved by all, until some idiot spurred by his foreign bitch wife held him hostage and triggered a lifelong PTSD.

>>222145603
d&d kept a cordial relationship with George and that's why he reveled important future lore like Jons heritage, his resurrection and the end of dany.

>>222145603
D&D tasked Shae's actress to fuck with him as he wished in exchange of no whining about the show

Had Condal and Mess sent the Mysaria gook actress with the exact same mission Martin wouldnt shut up about how the show changed were for the Better 24/7. But femminism blinded them

>>222145602
I was talking about you

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>>222145603
Why criticise them, when you can just use Star Wars special aka “blame toxic fans and internet”

Can we talk about how Hugh having a wife in tumbleton is fucking retarded

He is a smith on dragon stone, this isn't today where people can work in Cali and commute by plane to their spouses in Wisconsin, it makes no sense for them to be seperated that way so far away, especially for fucking commoners

So when do we get to watch the stage play

>>222145697
I'm not George.

>>222145719
He was a smith in King’s Landing which close to Tumbleton

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>>222144286
>>222144316

>>222145721
There is talk of a proshot being released next year but no plans to play it anywhere else besides the current sold out limited run

>>222145603
He went easy on D&D because they were responsible for making the show which exploded the series to cultural juggernaut status, plus he hadn't finished the books so they were left with the task of writing largely without much guidance. Meanwhile Condal has access to the finished source material and is completely ignoring, while also making promises to George only to break them.

>>222145758
>you have to make Gurm’s weepy gay revision a success or he won’t finish the series

>>222145404
I like Alys better.

>>222144773
His assholery was the reason people were plotting against him, though. It's like shouting "A-ha, I knew you hated me!" when your neighbour calls the cops on you after you poisoned his chickens.

>>222145629
My gf has told me during sex that I fuck her so good that she wouldn't even care if I fucked other women because she can't be without my dick. Is this license to fuck other women or was she just roleplaying

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I hit the final cope it's all been a bran/3ER/bloodraven setup with the constant prophecy spam for the targshits I thought it was a meme before but now I'm certain of it

>>222144352
Thought the play was just the tourney at Harrenhal?

>>222145729
But it’s your interpretation you shared.

>>222145225
shes an ugly-cute femcel and thats a good thing, i like her alot, i hope she protects aemond from his evil mom

>>222145873
George shared it.

>>222145839
You have no proof it was me

>>222145870
bloodraven is trying to establish old god supremacy because they are real unlike the seven

>>222145863
It depends if she said this before or after she came

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Never thought I would say this, but I think the iron born are better than the Dornish at this point. At least the iron born are honest about what they're doing. Every last Dornishman is a lying schemer ready to put a knife in your back.

>>222145900
If the Seven are fake, then why the Andal triumphed over the First Men and their demonic tree gods?

Did rhaegar lose all his remaining aura

>>222144340
>everyone is still waiting for the beloved original story to progress and develop
>grrm decides go back in the story to derail and crash the lore with no survivors
Hes doing it out of spite, isnt he?

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>>222145621
>I didn't think it was possible to worse than the nogs but she is.
Some of them are at least entertaining, unlike the bitch of Harrenhall

>>222145935
Turning Point Andal

>>222145935
they failed and the norf (the good guys) won

>>222145916
BANEfort?!?

I WAS WINNING
I SWEAR
IF ONLY I DIDNT HAVE A DRAGON DREAM
IN THE MIDDLE OF BATTLE
RIGHT AS I WAS ABOUT TO DEAL THE FINAL BLOW
I WOULD HAVE WON
I WAS WINNING I SWEAR

DnD were good for AOIAF and I'm tired of pretending them not managing to close the story neatly after the fat fuck couldn't bother for 20 years was a bad thing.

>>222145970
>DnD were good for AOIAF and I'm tired of pretending them not managing to close the story neatly after the fat fuck couldn't bother for 20 years was a bad thing.
You could have given the creative control to a 14 year old bookfag and they would have come up with a more satisfying ending than anything D&D came close to

>>222145946
>THAT

>Doesn't like his children
>Doesn't like his wife
>Doesn't like his dad
>Doesn't like the prophecy that much
Rhaegar a shit

>>222146002
ok, what's your view of a perfect ending

>>222146002
Feast and Dance apologists refuse to recognize the fat man lost the plot nearly 30 years ago and just invent an ending in their head that will never be contradicted because Winds is never coming

>>222144810
>Blood and Cheese? Also, weirdly enough, an oopsie which we've swept under the carpet

>>222145621
I like her scenes. Always have.

>Ned doged a bullet with Ashara and safely ended up with Cat
>Robert doged a bullet with Lyanna but got hit by a truck that is Cersei
Poor Robert

>>222145941
>"Finish the books you FAT FUCK they said, well how about I finish this stinky play and shit all over your beloved stories, how would you like that huh, teach you to keep yelling at me online to write"

if you weer grrm why would you do anything but goon to BBC Hypno instead of finishing your book series when you already ahve more mone than you can spend in multiple lifetimes and you're writing for a bunch of thankless foids and reddit chunguses who now make up 99% of your fanbase

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Baby-making sex soon.

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>>222145935
>never succeeded past the riverlands
>failed to touch the Green Chads on the isle of faces

All that said, I think the seven are real because of Dunks trial by combat.

>>222146085
that was his own fault for simping the dead whore

>>222145442
>no one is even talking about the butcher's ball now.
Because it was butchered, har har, so there's nothing really to talk about other than to say it's a bit crap

>>222145970
Even if that were true, them following the books less and less in seasons for which the books were already out was inexcusable.
They also cannot write well at all, and every good idea they ever had after the show ran out of books was GRRM's fault.
>yeah let's add Rose so we can show more tits
>let's leave coffee cups in the shot
>let's fucking teleport thousands of miles
fuck off

I'll never understand why Hollywood retards consistently and deliberately disregard a highly-acclaimed written work. Writing is one of the most difficult, if not THE most difficult, aspects of film making. WHY IN THE FUCK would you take the best part of something and substitute your own inferior ideas about? Hubris? Lack of understanding?
>this is a great airplane engine, with millions of engine hours of safe and effective operation, but let's modify it with my ideas (not an engineer btw)
>I know we have a war-winning strategy that we've been planning for decades, but let's use my plan (I concocted despite never having made it past the rank of corporal)
Why do people do this?
Why do others allow them to?
I will never, ever understand it, much less condone it.

TL;DR you're a fucking idiot lol

>>222146092
alicent wont allow it, the last thing she needs is more grandkids

>Bloodraven kills Rhaegar by DDOS attacking his brain

>>222146146
it was necessary

So has the play been recorded? Will it be released for normal people to watch?

>>222146130
>coffee cup in the shot was in the script
even chatgpt is less retarded than you

>>222146029
Feast has plenty of compelling plots, are you stupid?
>Citadel plot
>actual Dornish intrigues instead of "bad pussy"
>Lady Stoneheart

>realise you're a greenseer
>"Oh cool, maybe I can gain useful visions of the future, if only to turn a few party tricks"
>Bloodraven immediately starts spamming your brain with "KILL YOURSELF" for years until you crack
>Why? For the lulz of course
One of us, one of us!

>>222146178
The producer has many, many areas of responsibility outside of writing, mong.

>>222146139
Alys will tell Alicent that she has a dragon in her belly by the time she gets there.

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>the prophecy is just true and aegon only conquered the realm for the greater good, rhaenyra only fought for the throne for the greater good, lyanna and rhaegar only did what they did for the greater good

>>222146179
First is 1 chapter
Second is ass
Third is dumb

Feast and Dance have the odd good storyline and passage but they are the biggest part of the absolute shamefulness that is why GRRM hasn't finished the series.

>>222146200
The targs are not strong enough to save the world.

>>222146215
You thought the prophecy was a lie or something? That's dumb.

>>222144533
even fdaeron ?

>>222146200
>showed Rhaegar his Shiera folder mid battle

>>222146130
>yeah let's add Rose so we can show more tits
unthinkably based heterosexual d&d

>>222144955
>Rhaegar was secretly the greatest fighter in history but nobody at the trident saw their two commanders fighting
Eh, the books are full of Rhaegar glazing about what a wonderful fighter he was, so I'm not too salty about that. Robert had also suffered many serious wounds in the war, which should realistically hinder him.
>Elia was ok with Rhaegar cucking her for some stupid prophecy
I think you're confused, Elia is explicitly said NOT to be into prophecy shit and is actively discouraging Rhaegar from believing in it too much. She's kinda okay with the cucking (though not publicly) because she doesn't love Rhaegar and has her own lover on the side. She's also okay with him dying if things go south, since she wants to grab more power by marrying her daughter to Viserys and replacing Rhaegar with him.
I can see it. The books never gave me the impression Rhaegar and Elia loved each other, and she's a sister to Doran and Oberyn. Dumb selfish scheming runs in the family.
>Lyanna didn't just fall in love with Rhaegar, but actively spurred him on to follow the prophecy
Lyanna being just as schizo as Rhaegar has always been my personal theory and I feel extremely vindicated here. There was no reason for them to do everything they did unless they were batshit insane.
>Rhaella was also obsessed with prophecies
I didn't get that impression from the spoilers. She's just mad from the abuse and her "curse" is basically just her wanting to spite her abusive husband.

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>be stuck picking up the pieces of your entire generation's retardation for 20 years

>>222146207
the producer does not handle what objects are in the shot, the producer handles who gets hired and communicates between units and handles the coordination between the studio and the production team(s). but besides that you were talking about writing, you absolute nigger baboon.

>>222146215
All of this is completely undermined by the unfolding of seasons 7-8 ends btw

So, although it is not yet a commercially dead franchise at the moment can we all at least agree that artistically it's fully done and buried now?

>>222144955
it only works if the prophecy is nonsense. then what we have basically is a bunch of schizos ruining the realm until bobby and ned put them out of their misery

>>222146215
>the prophecy that a random stark bitch will do some naruto bullshit and kill a shitty CGI zombie
why did the targs care about this??

>>222146285
Ned should have stayed in the Vale and tod his family to go fuck themselves

>wokies mad because the play is hecking mysoginistic and orientalistic
>chuds mad because gay men, strong women

bran killed off the targaryens not Robert

Based bran

>>222146322
Bobby and Ned as the Westerosi Marx and Engels? Only materialism now, no more woo woo nonsense.

>>222146297
d&d were fucking heroes for shutting all that shit down

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>Massive slut that sleep around with anyone and everyone regardless of gender
>Such a big slut in fact that it gave Ned the ick
Lmao so much for her stry and mystery

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HOLD THE TIDE
HOLD THE TIDE
HOLD THE TIDE
HOLD THE TIDE
HOLD THE TIDE
HOLD THE TIDE

>>222146179
oh and Fake Aegon (or was that Dragons?)

>First is 1 chapter
Actually several, if you include the prologue and the Sam chapters between him reaching Oldtown. But at least 2.

>Second is ass
>Third is dumb
Yes but there is nowhere to go but up. I'll take an established author who wrote popular books enjoyed by millions rather than some nepo producers who have never written anything of acclaim in their entire life.
Again, I'm telling you the books worked. The books were acclaimed and had a devoted fanbase, myself among them.
And for the record Feast is the weakest only because it was not supposed to be a standalone book, it and Dragons were supposed to be the fourth book, together, but the publisher demurred.
They were still excellent books, people enjoyed them. Why disregard what others have already made wildly successful? Why try your hand at a skill (writing) that you know almost nothing about? Why use your meager talents when you have an incredibly successful writer on your production already.
>who do I want to throw this javelin? I have the Olympic record holder, but naaaah I'm rich how hard can it be?

You can not like certain chapters or plotlines, or even the books and GRRM. But dickriding D&D is fucking sad. The only people I can imagine doing that are D&D themselves.
Apologize for what you did to Stannis you fucking faggots.

>>222146339
Low IQ due to inbreeding, type of people who fall for pyramid scheme scams

>>222146274
>showing nice tits
based
>writing them into the show with dialogue
not necessary but maybe
>doing it at the expense of the actual plot
NOPE
unbelievably cucked

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>you see guys theres this magical prophecy that i set up from book one and it all comes together in the end when azor ahai the song of ice and f-
>hehe sure george, we'll put that stuff in dont worry

>>222146215
It also means the prophecy will be passed on despite everyone in the know dying during the dance.

Black support on /tv/...whatever happened to that?

>>222146427
if they had Jaime or Beric do in the NK, they would have been all-time greats

Reading the spoilers for the play you'd swear the Mountain was writing it as a propaganda piece to justify him killing Elia.
>And then the dornish bitch convinced the stupid prince to steal the stark girl and then fucked her whore gf some more...

>>222146441
The NK himself is slop, stop being stupid

>>222146322
I like how Bobby B is completely vindicated by the reveal that Dany is also meant to be a psychotic schizo. The last Targs are just a total loss, except for the one that was raised outside that incestuous psycho family and doesn't even know he's a Targ.
Robert did nothing wrong and neither did Tywin.

>>222146434
As soon as there were actual blacks at the Blacks it was over.

>>222146456
frfr the targs should have looked like the Habsburgs towards the end

>>222146451
the mountain did nothing wrong if you really think about it

Tywin really is the goat

>>222146479
He was a lil mean but he got the message, sometimes you need to bully nerds and stacies or they become a bigger problem for everyone else

>>222146454
>Great Other

>>222146451
leaving elia alive would have been a massive blunder based on the new info so yeah he just did what he had to do

>>222146292
>the producer(s) who bankroll a production don't check the work of their employees
>and as the top "boss(es)" (although it's far more complex/nuanced than that depending on the people, contracts, and varies widely across every production, and often changes even during filming) aren't ultimately accountable for the shortcomings of the employees they chose
it's pretty obvious they were phoning it in at best and possibly bilking/embezzling at worst
Indefensible, as even chickenshit one-season-and-done television failures managed to get by less despite having a new director every episode.

>>222146451
The Mountain was in a self defence situation, he had to get it on, she was making a move.

Barristan is the biggest loser after the play

>>222146427
>hehe sure george, we'll put that stuff in dont worry
>inserts something orders of magnitude worse
They sure showed that fat fuck!
I guess

>>222146503
They humanize their big other, the same way they humanize ai, you will never find it in big

>>222146524
its a textbook example of a self defense rape.

>>222146511
>leaving elia alive would have been a massive blunder
Can you fill me in?

>>222146515
shut the fuck up nigger

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>Dornish whore behind the plot against the crown
He was right.

>>222146215
>i want my world to be grey
>this shit is black and white tho
fuck george. no wonder he isn't finishing the books. the show's final seasons are his idea

>>222146548
Either you're the rapee or the raper. Better to ask forgiveness from 12 than be carried by 6.

>>222146534
imagine simping for a slut and a craven

>>222146451
I've seen a lot of people joke that the play was written by Jon Connington. Other characters tend to pity her, but he just thinks how unworthy she was of his silver prince.

>>222146179
>Side plot that bloated an already bloated story
>Side plot that bloated an already bloated story
>Deus ex machina bullshit because Martin wanted to preserve his autistic "POV characters cannot die during their chapters" dogma

As i said, most of the whole AFFC book could had been scrapped and the saga would had benefited it in the long run

>>222146553
She's half the brains in the plot against the mad king.
And also gay and fucking Ashara.
Who's a whore who fucks Brandon and tells Ned about it

really don't get what the point of Brandon x Ashara is. they're both non characters so it doesn't really add anything worthwhile. it being Ned would've added extra tragedy but whatever

>>222146582
Well he went to join Dany after all

>>222146534
He's been called Barristan the Bystander for years now, and for a good reason.

>>222146589
Sounds hot.

>>222146391
Winds isn't impossible to write because George has some grand plan that is taking a long time to translate. He wrote a bunch of pointless meandering bullshit in Feast and Dance and has no idea how to resolve any of it because they were bad ideas in the first place

Ned has always been gay for Bob anyway

>>222145202
What’s taters, precious? What’s taters, eh?

>>222146589
>>222146592
Ned dodged a bullet

>>222146553
she was scheming and plotting to overthrow the king and she war grabbing for power even before the rebellion. if you leave her and her kids alive shes going to work hard to undermine bobby and to take the throne back for her son. i think the rape was over the top but ser gregor had headaches and maybe he got confused a bit

I preferred Elia being this pure sweet girl who gets caught up in all this bullshit outside of her control over just being as complicit

>>222145916
Corpse Lake sounds cozy

>>222144286
alot of asoiaf/got/hotd/dunk content creators are gonna be eating good in the next few weeks because of the new lore from the play

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>>222146608
CAAAAREFUL NED CAAAAAAAAAAREFUL

>>222146606
The idea that a book is impossible to write is lunacy. Just get a ruthless editor to chop shit and direct the story to something workable and plausible
>muh garden!
Piss on it

>>222146636
>I preferred Elia being this pure sweet girl
She's a dornoid

>fAegon wasn't so fake after all

>>222146592
ned rejected the slut of dorne because he cares about duty and honor but brandon banged her because hes a jock. it all makes sense now

better dead than dornish

>>222146636
>Doran and Oberyn's sister and aunt of Arianne and the Sandsnakes
>pure and sweet
In hindsight, we should have seen this coming.

>>222144286
>got
game of throne

>hotd
house of the dragon

>dunk
???

>>222146583
>And yet hes later willing to die for the kids he thinks was birthed by Elia
If you really think about it its the classical story of the cuck raising the baby of the individual he loved, but this time the cuck is gay and the chad that stole the love of his wife and had kids with is actually a stacy

>even the white-passing dornish are sluts and fags
its over, just start the next dornish campaign

>>222146592
After 20+ of writing nothing George had enough time to think about stupid soft retcons like this or Bobby B being afraid of waves. Gardener writer 'n shit

>>222146339
Autism is their superpower.

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Ulf went from comically evil in the books to totally justified in the show.

>A bride for our bright prince. Jon Connington remembered Prince Rhaegar's wedding all too well. Elia was never worthy of him.
Apologize

>>222146606
These arcs by themselves are intriguing story worthy of separate dedicates books (Cersei personal psycho dramma; Dorne family dramma; Meereen political drama).

But by being shoehorned into the main saga all they did was to bloat it and making finishing the story impossible

Septa Lemore is Ashara so if she was fucking Elia she's probably fucking Arianne's mother in Essos.

>>222146718
He's a whiny bitch, which pretty much guarantees popularity with a certain type of poster on /tv/.

>>222146693
*the love of his life

>>222146718
there is nothing comical about him in the books, he is a non character until they betray the blacks then he is just a retarded evil rapist

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>>222146718
>>222146766
He’s the hero we deserve

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What the FUCK did he mean by this?

>>222146766
He literally just wants a pint

Why does every character like Rhaegar?
He's kind of boring

>>222146456
It's a consistent theme that the best Targs are only Targs in blood and are raised by someone else.

>>222146798
Archetypal Good Prince.

>>222146798
he was suppose to fix everything after the mad sneed also jon is a faggot

>>222146798
He is the hero protagonist that dies before his story even begins

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Fuck it he deserved the throne

>>222146766
Name one reason why a dragonrider should not have a LANDED title and a pint with the lads. If you can't you're a maegor with booba.

>>222146798
Targ whitewashing, the play is all from Jon Connington's perspective which is why he's not a character in it. Explains the Rhaegar dickriding and Elia being a dumb bitch.

Why would anyone give a fuck about a noncanon play Martin didn’t write

>>222146730
>a feeble Dornish princess with black eyes and a flat chest.
our girl immediately clocked her too. but ofc barristan the clown thought she was great

>>222146730
Do we have the full list of all the characters who got vindicated by history with this play?
>Robert
>Ned
>Tywin
>JonCon
>Catelyn
>Jaime
>all the Dornish haters
>Mirri Maz Duur
>all the Targ haters
>Cersei

>>222146793
Context?
>>222146825
Pretty much anyone but a targ deserved the throne.

>>222146855
Daemon Blackfyre too.

>>222146856
The mad king gives Robert a model of the boat his dad died on, all shattered and broken.

>>222146834
Why should he?

>>222146785
I suppose it's supposed to be the imperfect nature of record keeping during conflict, why he defected and his motives, coupled with the horrors of war, the power of the dragon corrupting him. Then again you could view that as very reactionary
>This peasant got a dragon and he starting raping EVERYONE! Better that it's only for noble Targs
But as much as I'm enjoying Ulf's actor I do prefer the book version of wtf is going on with the Dragonseeds chaos

>>222146793
/ourking/

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>"They are assassins, here to kill him and you!"

gee, i'm glad he managed to say that while fighting otherwise we viewers might have had to think on our own.

>>222146873
Because he has a fookin dragon.

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>>222146855
He who bore the sword, but nobody wanted to listen then.

>>222146798
Jaime likes him, so I like him.

>>222146793
Why can't Fraudbert take a joke?

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>>222146876
>I'm enjoying Ulf's actor

>>222146880
They also made Roxton and Ormund retarded. The two really seemed to think Gwayn was going rogue.

>>222146876
the show writers are just trying to give some kind of logic and motivation to their actions because the books have nothing to explain their actions
>literally one last battle and the greens are over (aemond is powerless to stop 5 of them on his own)
>nvm we will join the losing side for the sake of the plot

why is Ned the only person in Westeros that isn't a horny retard, a scheming retard or a prophecy addled retard

>>222146880
I’m surprised more isn’t being made of how bad that was.

>>222146855
Dont forget
>Greens supporters (with them winning the prophecy autism plaguening the dynasty would had been forgotten)
>Maesters conspiracy supporters

>>222146893
>nobody wanted to listen then.
well that's not true. daemon waters had as fine an army of mentally handicapped people and homoeroticists as was ever marshaled, ser useless still creams his smallclothes over the guy

>>222146839
We are not talking about a play he didn't write

>>222146855
littlefinger since brandon was an asshole jock

>>222146915
I know that there are some theories on why they defected, something about them being illiterate but receiving letters, but can't remember the details. Comes to the crux of the issue that because the books are so barebones with basically no characters that it should have never been adapted but oh well.

>>222146793
lmao i love the madlad

>>222146851
She also calls Lyanna "the insipid little dead sixteen-year-old". Turns out /ourgirl/ hated on the right people.

>>222146916
Jon arryn was that good of a dad.

>>222146851
>but ofc barristan the clown thought she was great
Selmy thought everyone was cool in the past, and everyone is shit now (same as Jaime). He’s basically your typical boomer with the nostalgia for ye good ol times

>>222146916
because he's an autistic retard

>>222146718
If Rhaenyra had any political nous she’d let Ulf invite Mudge and Clay to the keep for an ale or two. Just one more of her failings.

>>222146944
No, anon, he was a "chad". On /tv/ we make the proper obeisance before a "chad", usually without even realising how appallingly faggy it looks.

>>222146956
Fan theories are pretty much irrelevant but yeah like you said there is not enough source material when it comes to them so they have to do something on their own.

>>222146916
Northman + Raised in the Vale combo

>>222146880
ormund thought gwayne was going crazy, gays are very unpredictable