I was told by an older friend that Naruto was super popular and well liked back in the day, even more than One Piece. Can anyone here confirm that, and if so why?
>>222146695naruto was bigger than one piece in america, yes. one piece only achieved a bigger fanbase in the english speaking world after naruto and bleach ended.
Yes, but it depends on where you look. Globally and in lifetime sales, One Piece reigns supreme, but Naruto indisputably blew One Piece out of the water in Western and international popularity during the 2000s and 2010s.In the West and Internationally: Naruto WonDuring its prime run, Naruto was significantly more popular than One Piece outside of Japan.TV Reach: Naruto became a pop-culture juggernaut on Cartoon Network’s Toonami. Its sleek ninja aesthetic, fast-paced action, and iconic soundtrack resonated deeply with Western audiences.The 4Kids Disaster: One Piece suffered massive setbacks in the West due to the heavily censored 4Kids dub, which painted it as a childish cartoon and turned off millions of potential fans early on.Internet Culture: On social media, cosplay, search traffic, and gaming, Naruto dominated globally for over a decade. Former Shueisha editors even noted that Naruto was designed with tropes akin to Hollywood action blockbusters, making it easier for global audiences to digest than the kabuki-style influences of One Piece.In Japan and Total Sales: One Piece WonIf you measure purely by manga sales, Japanese revenue, and total franchise scale, One Piece has reigned supreme since 1997.Manga Sales: One Piece has sold over 500 million copies globally, making it the best-selling manga of all time. Naruto sits at around 250 million.Domestic Dominance: In Japan, One Piece held the unbroken #1 annual manga sales record for over 11 consecutive years, while Naruto typically hovered in the top 3 to 5.Franchise Value: One Piece is estimated at over $20 billion in lifetime revenue, double Naruto's estimated $10 billion.The ShiftIn recent years, the Western gap narrowed substantially. Thanks to streaming platforms and Netflix's live-action series, Western fans finally embraced One Piece, while Naruto had already concluded. However, during the peak 2000s anime boom, Naruto was the undisputed face of anime in the Western world.
>>222146695i had a classmate in highschool who had memorized the hand signs lmao
>>222146695Naruto was huge from about 2007-2012. I imagine every public school in America had at least one weeb that ran around like him.
>>222146695One of my first nuts was to a Naruto themed dating simulator flash game. I didn't even watch the show or read the manga
Naruto was just edgy enough to appeal to what Americans liked about anime. One Piece was very oddball and Japanese and had a dub aimed to make it even less edgy, and so it bombed hard here until COVID encouraged a lot of people to catch up.
hmmm its been a few years...i wonder if its time to rewatch
Naruto is simply thematic kino that sold angsty yaoi to the world. It'll do it again when the live action movie comes out.
>>222146695Go back to /a/
>>222146803Do you remember what the game was called?
>>222148653Naruto Dating Sim IIRCI think I first played it on Newgrounds but there might be mirrors up still
>>222146695Yes, because it was the best out of big 3
Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece were considered "The Big Three" of anime back in like 2005-2009 or so. Naruto was the most popular of the three before Shippuden when it seemed like every arc lost more fans. I was already past my weeb phase at the time so didn't really follow any of them.
>>222146695Every fucking kid was Naruto running at recess
It's still super popular, sometimes you'll just notice someone with akatsuki clouds and shit
>>222146780Everyone knows someone who did this lol
>>222146695It wasn't it was all fake popularity from memes, naruto has the worst filler in all of anime, it's literally unwatchable anyone that tells you different is lying or didn't watch the show
>>222147318Based
>>222148804Shippuden filler blows but before that it was cozy kino.
>>222146695One piece had a shitty 4kids dub with a retarded rap that made it fail in the west at first
>>222148804Naruto was incredibly popular during the 2000s, even Osama bien laden was a fan.
Yeah, the figure of the "Narutard" was real. A whole bunch of people that got into fansub anime because of Naruto. A shitton of people importing the Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen for gamecube too. It was pretty big. But then, it felt like the popularity came down during that 1 or 2 years of filler. 2 years of filler and shippuden was simply worse.
>>222146757Chat gpt you are my greatest ally
Maaaaan, those days were epic. I remember being in my last year of middle school when I discovered Naruto. The internet seemed like this place where you would find amazing things everyday. Coming back from school, torrenting things all day, I could watch LOST, Prison Break, Heroes, Veronica Mars and Naruto during the same day. And then, end up the day playing some gamecube. The future was so bright.
>>222146695Naruto was insanely popular, kids would come to school with the headbands on. There was even a scandal when some kid buried themselves in a sandbox imitating Garra and suffocated. It was up there with Dragonball and Pokemon for a long time. I don't remember if it had a card game. I ended up dropping the show, maybe it got good but it hit three strikes with me.
>>22214669520 years ago, yeah
>>222146695kill yourself narutard
>>222149146I shit you not, I saw zoomers Naruto running.
I studied animation in the late 2000s to early 10s. I have never been an animefag. From what I remember the most popular animes among students at the time were One Piece, Naruto, DBZ and Bleach. Seems the anime's were most popular in that order. Myself I tried watching OP but there's a million eps, I had seen dbz as a kid and never got into bleach. I started watching naruto but got bored specially after the time jump when they go from kids to teens. The pain fight really is animation kino, even if people take frames out of context
>>222149272You missed out with Bleach
>>222149174Get a life
There are people in this thread right now who are too young to remember the autistic weirdos coming to school wearing Naruto headbands.
>>222146695When i see Naruto, I always remember the National georaphic documentary about an autistic nerd who went to prison and practiced naruto hand moves in an exercise cage so he could "fit in"https://youtu.be/ZOBidtvfglI?t=1596
>>222149401I just remember someone who would run around with his arms behind his back. He probably thought of it as the Naruto run but all us cool kids know it as the Inuyasha run
>tranimeGrow up.
>>222149401The quality on that thing
>>222146695Back during zeroes and early tens not only was Warmpiss less popular than Naruto and DBZ, it was less popular than Bleach
Reminder that Bleach TYBW has been an amazing adaptation and even though it took them a decade to finally adapt the fucking thing, Bleach fans basically won in the end due to the sheer quality of the adaptation.
It felt like the series was extremely popular up until the Sasuke retrieval arc ended and there was then two years of filler then people either dropped it or stopped being vocal about liking Naruto
>>222149793What's the emotional core of Bleach? That's right it's just shallow garbage.
>>222149793The art style tho
>>222146695even today i still see naruto merch for sale at random stores or middle aged chinese guys wearing naruto tshirts at the mall.
>>222149863Ah, shounen filler. Always just some generic new forgettable never-again-referenced enemy instead of taking advantage of things the source material glossed over and using the filler time to elaborate. They could've gotten 100 eps out of showing showing how everyone passed their chuunin exams in the timeskip while naruto was off with frogman
>>222150157>They could've gotten 100 eps out of showing showing how everyone passed their chuunin exams in the timeskip while naruto was off with frogmanThey actually did this for like 20 episodes in the middle of the Madara-Obito fight in Shippuden
>>222150266wasn't that like 400 chapters later
>>222146695One piece had a horrible American dub whereas Naruto had a good dub
Nairto was far and away more popular than one piece in the west due to the One Piece being sent to companies like 4kids who made it more young-kid friendly. Basically one piece got handicapped hard early while naurto and bleach got to thrive
>>222150516Naruto didn't have a good dub, it had a phenomenal one. Steve Blum hamming it up as Orochimaru, Kakashi's VA being legendary cool, Naruto's voice actress always hitting the rawest emotional scenes and basically everyone cast perfectly to the point where you couldn't imagine them sounding any other way. Naruto's VA in the first animated movie has some lines that give me chills. The voicework always goes crazy when they cut to the heart of things.
>>222149272>I studied animation in the late 2000s to early 10s. I have never been an animefag.That's actually fucking weird. How did you come to be super into animation without caring that much about anime? I have to ask because, while western animation has historically been capable of greatness, Japanese and Korean animation ended up showing off way more talent than western studios had by that point.
>>222148804>naruto has the worst filler in all of animeNaruto's "filler" was fine and more tolerable than all of One Piece's "canon" episodes.
>>222146695>WhyIncredible fights, a cool world, a cool magic system and aesthetic, and an incredibly memorable cast
>>222150634What about tranny piece, no lol
>>222146695I can confirm it. In the United States in middle in school in the mid to late 2000’s, nerdy white kids (including girls) liked Naruto but not One Piece. Why? Probably art style, better English voices, and fujoshi elements for girls
Naruto got the joker 2 treatment
>>222150682Naruto's and Shippuden's filler was dumb at times but easily watchable. One Piece just fills you with regret.
>>222150705Boruto isn't canon
>>222150698Also the entire presentation of one piece was from 4kids who bastardized it to try and sell to little kids.
>>222150776>>222150705>one piece continues into I finity>naurto crashes and burns to try and shill a new art style>bleach goes all in on ass and tits and makes millions
>>222150807Even Oda praised the 4Kids version. It's just cope by One Piece fans that their anime is ass.
>>222150497Yeah
>>222148773We were flash stepping and teleporting but not everyone can be that fast I guess.
Shitpoodung ruined Naruto.
>>222146695You have to be 18 to post here
>>222151568Are you?
>>222146695naruto had a mostly normal dub while one piece was butchered so badly you couldn't even tell what was supposed to be happening half the time.
>>222148699the one where you play as sakura?
How young or third world are you that you ask this in earnest. Naruto was fucking massive, girls and autists made it their entire personality for years, legit the first series to turn normal westerners into weaboos. Genuinely dumbfounded that an adult who has internet access could not know this, do you live in Siberia or Eritrea?
>Oh yeah. Did you know he’s an orphan? HA! That fucking FREAK! Who the FUCK does that little FAGGOT think he is just walking around with no parents?! What a DUMBASS! FUCK orphans! I HATE orphans! I HATE Naruto! >Come on, Sasuke Uchiha. Let’s go point and laugh and the DUMB, RETARDED, ORPHAN!
>>222154564how come they never showed her parents until shitpooden?
>>222146695>told by an older friend>Naruto was popular back in the dayAre you 12?
>>222150634One piece is bounds more soulful than Naruto and doesnt have nearly the lows naruto does
>>222154564sakura was a foid bitch
bumpu no jutsu
>>222146695As an early 2000s kid the craze was the following:DBZ > Yu-Gi-Oh > NarutoI remember it like yesterday. There was no anime every single kid loved after Naruto.
>>222148804Anon...you realize no one is forcing you to watch filler, right? They have a site specifically made to help people avoid it in various series.
>>222146787Or wore Akatuski clouds or had a Naruto headband. Every animu club back then was heavily into Naruto.
>>222149793Yeah, too bad TYBW is one of the worst arcs in the series.
Fact: YOU ARE MY FRIEND AA ANO HI NO YUME
>>222149272>The pain fight really is animation kinoIs that what you call the Rock Lee vs. Gaara fight, because that was the big thing I and most people I know remember from Naruto
>>222149401I actually bought one of those headbands recently to remember that weirdo. It's been so long I can barely remember his face. Dude really took pride in copying those hand signs to the letter and loved telling me all about the show.
It was always Dragonball > Naruto >>> Bleach >>>>>>>> One Piece in the west. One Piece just finally caught up a few years ago.
>>222149793Cool, too bad no one except the five bleach fans who accepted that shit ending back then care about seeing it animated
>>222157742I watched until they gave Ichigo two swords and then I had a temper tantrum and refused to watch more. GAYYYY.
>>222157732Yeah, 4Kids did A LOT of damage. Only real interaction I and most kids my age had with the series after that was the games.
>>222154564Red pilled a entire generation of weebs on what women really are.
Naruto had the dignity to end. One Piece is a soap opera at this point.
>>222157732And yet OP is the most soulful
>>222157977OP was always soulles and you have weebs coming out saying the shitty live action fixed characters like Sanji by not recycling one gag in every episode like Oda does.
>>222157971>Naruto had the dignity to end.It's still going right now. inb4 Baruto doesn't count
it's kinoyou should simply watch it skipping filler (or I heard there is some fan edit that gets rid of filler and repeated crap)
>>222146695Naruto was the Lord of the Rings of anime. It had impressive scope, setting and lore, soundtrack, and it covered deep topics, all the while transitioning into what had inspired its creation; Dragon Ball Z. You had to be there, huge phenomenon across the board.
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>>222158058It dosen't because it isn't made by the Naruto author.
>>222146695>Was it that good?It was better.Shippuden past the GOAT is excluded>Why?The music might be some of the best in... anythingAnd the story about socyetal outcasts earning their way to respect and friendship and in general one simple thingsovlrecently rewatched some parts of it, after giving in to nostalgia, pre war is great, post war requires a fucking episode guide..nonstop filler, recapps, flashbacks, repeats and about 400 episodes that are supposed to encompas about two days>everyone posts the akatsuki memes>nobody posts the soundtracksdissapointed in you peoplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWY1_Grk3VA&t=987s
>>222157836>I'm not even heavily invested into bleach or follow it and I know for a fact this is a bald faced lieI don't know why people speak so confident lately about shit they know nothing about.Like that anon said, it is a great adaption of a manga arc that was underwhelming and heavily criticized that was rushed to its conclusion because of Kubo's health. The positivity you're seeing is recency bias because this adaption IS an improvement over the manga and has high production values compared to the original anime, but the problems are still there and the cracks were already starting to show in part 2 let alone 3 with the poor pacing and asspulls. It's certainly better than the Fullbring arc at least, but Soul Society through Aizen is where Bleach peaked and what's kept it relevant all this time.
>ctrl+f "kisame">no resultsYou had one job.
>>222158124Naruto is such a beautiful story, the main character sets out to convince villains that they can be redeemed. The reason why the Pain arc is so well regarded is because you expect this climatic showdown between these two super powers; but instead the protagonist waltz into his lair, pulls out a book and talks to the villian.The book is written by the villain's sensei, the main character is inspired by the villain, the main character is named Naruto. The villain surrenders.
>>2221494016th grade me had a hat with a metal headband attached.
>>222158204All it cost was the best character dying...
>>222158253High stakes
>>222158204>talku-no-jutsu
>>222158204Find yourself someone who loves you as much as Naruto loves everyone unconditionally.
>>222158294God forbid someone recognizes a great adaption of mediocre material still retains some of the same flaws. Get a grip.
>>222158204I remember thinking up headcannon fanfiction for myself, because everything past said GOAT clashed with this exact mindset>Entire war arc is endless>the mad scientist and his student can somehow be redeemed>for some reason everyone gets edoed BUT>we never get to see 3 old Sanin vs 3 new>constant powerups>3 Bijuu modes>eternal mangekyo rinnegan>nukes everywhere>madara clones with >final has some god fight>you were the chosen ones all along>fuck neji I just couldnt do that to myself againThe end fight should have been a fistfightBig war left them at 0 chacra and we watch them punch each other until they both fall down and lie there smiling or some shitalso>whatever boruto is doing nowonly good thing was the movie showing people asking naruto not to let himself get nuked and the HYPER nostalgia bait rasenganforgot to mention in my post>the sound of Chibaku Tenseiuhhhhhhhhhhh yes
>>222158530forgot >madara clones with Susanno>izanagi izanami shit
>>222154564Why did she do it?
>>222158111Didn't he take it over eventually?
>>222146695Naruto ran on cartoon network instead of fucking Fox Kids so that probably helped a lot, it also was a "martial arts" shonen more similar to Dragon Ball and kids were doing handsigns and shit and getting shot dead by Crips and Bloods for trying to be Sasuke
>>222158598Woman moment. Though, to be fair, I think the anime and especially the dub made it much worse from her mocking tone than the manga.
post your favorite character
>>222146695https://cartoonnetwork.fandom.com/wiki/The_Naruto_Hundo
>>222158530You're just nitpicking what you dont get. Naruto was inspired by DBZ, and it resolves in a final battle for the planet after a long long series with characters becoming more powerful. Like popping the cork on the bottle, it's intense and fun.
>>222150157In hindsight it's kind of cool if you want to see more of certain characters, like the gold beetle episodes are Naruto with Kiba, Shino and Hinata but, yeah as it was coming out every week and it's still just irrelevant bullshit I can see people dropping it out of frustration.
>>222157732YO HO HOHE TOOK A BITE OF GUMGUM
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>>222149401I remember this sexy goth bitch would wear the headband everyday how Hinata would wear hers.
>>222146780I tried to do this once with the water dragon jutsu that Zabuza and Kakashi used
>>222158530The end fight eventually devolved into a fist fight and they only pulled out a rasengan vs chidori because they had no more stamina to keep punching and said fuck it
>>222146695Naruto Uzumaki? I have it on very good authority that he still owes me sex.
>>222160035He's a guy, though.
>>222158204The way Nagato goes "When I mentioned we should understand each other I was taking the piss but I'm happy we actually do understand each other now" realizing he truly took the wrong path and disappointed himself and what he stood for at the beginning is cinema of such high quality that I'm convinced Kishimoto was on drugs when he wrote it because later on everything gets beyond questionable in many regards
>>222160058Even BETTER!
>>222158194they all left
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>>222159448Was such a Gaara fanboy as a kid, I was considering getting the "love" kanji tattooed on me when I was older. He's still my fave, but thank god I came to my senses.
>>222146780>Hand signs>seals>Ninja toolsI miss when these were a big part of fights in the series. Before the Sharingan/Hashirama Cells/Six Paths wank got out of hand.Ngl I think Susanoo's are cool as fuck but making them a Sharingan power was lame. Should have been a completely separate thing Sasuke had to learn like Naruto had to study Sage Mode.
>>222146695Im surprised One Piece never made it on Toonami the anime has been around since 99
>>222149883nta but i find protagonists that just want to keep their home safe like Ichigo, Yusuke, Josuke etc more relatable than the "I want to be __" kind like Naruto or Luffy.
>>222146695Ouf of the Big 3, Naruto was more popular.More flashy than One Piece, having better writting than Bleach. More serious than One Piece, too.Although the Shippuden part had a lot of mistakes : the Uchiha permawank, the 4th War, and of course, the rabbit goddess.It was almost Dragon Ball popular.
The rare comfy /tv/ thread. Sending love to all you ninja weebs. I hope we all get to go to anime heaven together.
>>222160035Calm down, Sasuke.
>>222150634This. I'd rather watch all Naruto filler episodes on loop than watch One Piece on loop. I think the Fuji TV contract is to blame. Every episode has one sentence of canon dialogue and 20 reaction shots. If every forth episode was filler and completely fixed the pacing, and had Sanji cooking episodes or Zoro studying the blade, would that kill the average one piece viewer?
>>222159448killer bee
>>222146695Naruto = Tom HollandSakura = ZendayaSasuke = Timothee Chalamet
>>222146695Naruto was huge. I wasn’t that into it, but I remember reading it in shonen jump. At one point I would say it was just as big as DBZ. It kinda fell off. I don’t even understand how One Piece got so big. I think the laughable 4kids dub made most normies not care much for it.
>>222159786Chad
>>222146695Harry Potter for weeaboos down to the main villain being a magical albino snake man obsessed with teenagers.
>>222146695I don't like the way these characters look.
bump
>>222164291Don't bump a thread unless you have something to actually say.
I liked deidara a lot, dude was cool as fuck
I remember at my college anime club wr had the One Piece fans and the Narutards. We don't bother talkinf about the Bleach and YYH nerds.
>>222149401I had a friend who dis metalwork and made headbands to sell at cons. I still have my One Piece Straw Pirates logo Naruto headband he made. Alao got a FMA one.
>>222159820who is this guy?
address me
>>222164416You're a faggot. There, I said something.
>>222165087I've never even seen a full episode of Bleach
>>222161661>>Hand signs>>seals>>Ninja tools>I miss when these were a big part of fights in the seriesThe peak of the series was the Sasuke retrieval arc, it had all of that, and it fleshed out the Konoha 12 guys(although Shinji was lacking) Choji's flashbacks and how he became friends with Shikamaru were the most poignant part of the series
>>222162307Pedro Pascal = Kakashi
>>222165087It's my personal favorite of the big 3, in no small part because it felt like it had an actual ending. I don't care how "good" one piece is, I am not sitting down and reading 1100 chapters or watching 1200 episodes for a story that still isn't done. They would continue on and make TYBW but I'm going to ignore that
>>222146695Sasuke aura was massive before shippudenWe all were trying to be as tuff as him
>>222166832greatest aura moment
>walk into anime con in 2015>AOI AOI ANO SORA reverberating throughout the placeBros.....I miss weebettes obsessed with Naruto and Tokyo Ghoul.....
>>222146695Remember when Naruto was impossible to discuss on /a/ and threads would get constantly derailed?
>>222146695>back in the day, so first contact with eng speakersIn yankland? Yes. OP had a terrible dub and incredible censorship. Nardo got an okay one, with less censorship.Wizard murderhobo ninjas vs comical clown ass pirates shooting each other with super soakers.Which one will attract the edgy teens?
>>222167519Depends on period. Delete on sight until pain, became allowed during the war because it was now comical to read. I quit reading for a good 3? years from after the mass rezz to madara showing up and the scale going nonsensical.>legendary kage can use water spells without having a body of water nearby!>btw, eat TWO meteors (and these people were like 60 years apart, 3rd kage had to have known madara, albeit he'd have been a kid at the time) that reminds me the time scale in the series was wack as fuck
>>222148804Bleach filler was worseDBZ still holds the crown... some of their canon episodes are legit filler. An episode of charging? FML
>>222162070Early on it wasn't that bad (first 200 eps - filler arcs). Back when one piece did actual filler arcs the pacing was a more normal 3~ chapters an episode. Things got incredibly shit around the HD era, so like ep260ish, genuinely tanked to 1:1, eventually it go so bad there were some instances of 0.9 of a chapter. Instead of full blown filler arcs, they just did random recaps/chopper joke episodes of nothingburger.Pierrot at least tried to give naruto fillers an actual arc, or elongate a chapter with more than one pieces REACTION.ppt X 10. Either way, avoid fillers at all costs no matter the long running battle shounen you watch, bleach's are a mixed bag of shit + ideas kubo had that eventually got into the manga.
>>222162465one piece is huge everywhere that doesn't speak english, that dub killed it dead. maybe it's more popular now that people are more willing to watch subs
>>222158204>Pain arc is so well regardednot by the actual Naruto fans LMAO>Pain is retarded the entire time and says "Shut the fuck up Konan I have to Nuke this village I don't care we wasted so many years buidling Akatsuki for a reason" and then kills everyone and then revives everyone because of a discussion with a dumb teenager with no actual argument that in the end fought to actually save the current ninja system and they continue killing eachother in wars
>>222168311It had highs and lows, you'll still see lots of naruto fans say the pain arc is one of the best in the series.
>>222151568LMAO unc thinks it's still 2015. There are 18-year-olds who weren't even born when Naruto came out
>>222158598She's just a bitch and will take any opportunity to prove it. Pic related is Kakashi being petty as fuck after Orochimaru laughed him off so he took a jab at Naruto's expense. Sakura could have at least said nothing but being a cunt is like breathing to her. One chapter later Naruto is cheering her on regardless in her match, she's such a goddamn bitch. I know Kishimoto is going to make sure she's unlikable in the movie because he always went out of his way to make sure she is. Looking forward to Sakura fans having to confront the detestable character. It might get bad enough that the actress gets flack like Joffrey's actor in Game of Thrones.
>>222168668she really does deserve to be with sasuke
There's just something about it that appeals to loads of people. Like its not the best. But it has that right amount of balance to keep people interested.
>>222169124it has the right amount of edginess and humor, but most importantly it's stylish as hell. Character design was its biggest strength, almost everyone of the (many) relevant characters has a cool and distinctive look. This is also true for Dragon Ball and for One Piece imo, compare them to recent popular shonen where almost everyone is just some bloke and the setting is always fucking modern day Japan but with magic
>>222159448.
This thread.How embarrassing.
>>222146757the only good thing of naruto was paste and code of hunter x hunter, anime knowers know togashi is the original goat lol
>>222146695by popular you mean people have heard about naruto, konoha, one piece, straw hat pirates, etc? then I'd say they were about equalbut if you're talking about real anime nerds that actually watched the series, then that's hard to say
>>222170839What's embarrassing?
>>222146695I never watched it because I don't know what a "Naruto" is, but it sounds retarded. The main guy also looks zesty.
>>222154564Come on, sasuke called her out AND she defended both of them in the forest of death.
>>222161717The protection of Karakura was in the first arc and the Fake Karakura arc only, literally any other was a form of "I must protect my frieeeeends!!!", which is exactly the same bullshit that Naruto and Luffy engage in.Bleach was complete utter shit, cool style for sure but absolutely no substance, and most of Bleach's glazers barely remember Bleach, they just mouth off on the vibes they felt 20 years ago.
>>222171542Your intuition is correct.
>>222146755/Thread
>>222149174>not blocking out your IPLMAO GET READY TO BE HACKED!!!
>>222146695most one piece fans are new to anime, in the past 5 years outside of Japan
>ordered some Naruto calendar/picture book from Scholastic Book Club during elementary school>shoved it to the bottom of my drawer at home because I was so embarrassed about liking it at the timeHow times change, I think I prefer it being more niche than today where every single anime fan acts like a sports fan and it's really, really, really, really cringe and gay.
>>222165087Bleach has always been my favorite of the 3, Naruto my 2nd(first I watched), watched 160 episodes of One Piece and dropped it
Ok, but which of the Big 3 had the sexiest women?
>>222171950I never watched One Piece or Bleach so I couldn't give you a proper answer, sorry. I should watch them someday, but I think Tsunade is a pretty hot lady.
>>222171744Memories
>>222150606I know this is an old as comment but to answer you question. I just simply wasn't that much into anime as a kid, I liked Chuck Jones, John Kricfalusi, Peter Chong(Aeon Flux guy), I liked The Maxx, Batman TAS, Bruce Timm, etc... and after HS I got a 1 yr scholarship to a film school. My focus was on animation and I liked western animation and my teachers pushed western (mainly Disney) animation. Even though CGI animation was in full force by this time, traditional 2d hand drawn animation was still taught. Sure, students liked anime, but that style of animation wasn't taught.
>>222171950bleach no contest, if only for yoruichi and my flatfu soi fon
I pointed a laser pointer at my eye for several seconds thinking it will give me a sharingan
>>222173434Did it work?
>>222173210Rukia is literally the perfect female in every respect
>>222173535>Rukia is literally the perfect female in every respectExplain why.
Best arc of Shippuden right here>but muh Paintoo much of an edgelord
>>222174145>Pain>too much of an edgelordI think that was the idea.
>>222174145>Too much of an edgelord>Hidan isn't???
>>222175451What about her?
>>222174145I tapped out around here.
Why is /tv/ so fucking slow
>>222168311/a/ broke your brain. This is not the consensus among normies. Pain arc is still regarded as Goat naruto arc.
>>222160035Kiba...
>>222176615normies are not actually Naruto fans. they were part of the cosplayer group and doing "ninja run" and then moved to the hot new thing when Naruto is over and it's not popular anymore. True fans are those who stayed and pointed out that bullshit Pain arc
Anons, I want to get into Bleach and Naruto but I don't know where to start. Shuld I just watch from the beginning back to back? I know Bleach's filler gets awful at some points, doesn't it?
>>222148773>Every fucking kid was Naruto running at recessThe Naruto anime didn't air until my senior year of high school, but kids were doing that run long before it did. We called it the sonic run back then.
>>222174145I enjoyed these two, good contrast. Kisame and Itachi were a good pair with some quality interactions, whereas Kakuzu and Hidan had better general scenes.
>>222174785Pain monologues, Hidan doesn't
>>222176894>no true narutard
>>222174145Watching these guys do their regular ninja stuff was awesome. Prime example of a fight that turned to garbage in its final stage. Kakuzu was my fave akatsuki
>>222176940Just watch it and skip the filler, most people did when it was airing anyway
>>222146695>told by an older friend>tranimeis somebody grooming you into his cock sleeve?
>>222146757chatgpt ahh response but the bot forgot two things:Naruto absolutely won in anime cons, bitches would pull out with their fits like crazy and you had niggas pulling up in akatsuki outfitsthe amount of deidaras was endless back thenand finally naruto also go the superior vidyathe storm games outsold every single attempt Bamco made at making One Piece games, even the recent two OP games on PS4 and PS5 have been absolute bombsUltimate Ninja Storm 4 alone has probably outsold every single OP game in existence lol
>>222146695Naruto for a shockingly long time could do no wrong. Nobody expected Shuppuden to shit the bed as badly as it did and even whilst the car crash was happening people were coping hard.
Neji was always the best boy and I'm tired of pretending he wasn't
>>222178534obsessed
>>22217868some say those akatsuki wearing niggas are still around to these days, often found at atms typing shit.
>>222175451Literally the only good thing about boruto.
>>222178897>has an imoto who looks like THIS>treats her like shit because of his own made up bullshitworst boy
>>222171744Honestly, being embarrassed about something you like is much more cringe, and frankly, a weird way to feel as an elementary schooler about a ninja anime of all things.
>>222171950Bleach is my least favorite of the three as a series, but it's Bleach. The women are more mature than Naruto on average and it's got more diversity in appearance than One Piece. That said, my favorite female from the big three's still Robin.
>>222181784>The women are more mature than Naruto on averageHow so?
>>222171950I love femKonohamaru!
how much did boruto destroy the naruto universe
>>222168311Isn't the end result still the same? It's nardo and sauce who are the pillars of 'don't make war, or I'll come and personally nuke you'?Nagato wants to change the current system of MAD (where only a few nations have walking nukes) to MAD where only one nation has nukes and he lords over everyone else making an example if they do a naughty war.
>>222160945Should you even post it outside of /a/?
>>222146695How come the Naruto fanbase was so autistic compared to the Dragon Ball and Bleach fanbases
>>222182493Well, the entire cast skews older. Most of the main females in Naruto are 12-13 in the first part and 15-16 in Shippuden compared to Bleach where they're mostly grown women. As adults in Boruto, almost all their designs are downgrades. They even took Tsunade's tits away.
>>222183464It doesn't even try to be the naruto universe.
Then why it was made then?
>>222148804>naruto has the worst filler in all of animeBoth rurouni kenshin and gantz ended on filler seasons. At least naruto ended the manga story, unlike the previous two.
>>222157977OP is soulless crap, even compared to most shonen
>>222159448I just love the wood style. That 1000 hands buddha shit was badass. >>222162190I still sometimes go watch bee just manhandling sasuke and taking him down a peg after he'd been arrogant so long.
>>222186641Mokuton is cool. Though, how do you feel about Yamato?
>>222186775Never really interested me too much as a character. I think mostly because he was always there to prevent naruto from releasing the nine tails and I really wanted to see that happen. It's a dumb reason but really made the character boring to me. Him using wood style was still great though, like how he caught obito.
>>222146695He lived in a faggot bubble. Dragon ball z, and sometimes full metal alchemist, were the only tranime that were accepted by normiefolk. Dont let homos like your friend try to rewrite history. Tranime was shit where if you mentioned it and it wasnt dragon ball z normies immediately assumed youre a pedophile faggot retard
>>222186444>>222186444> gantz ended on filler seasonsNo shit Sherlock, it was made by gonzo.Same with sunabouzu and he'll sing (not ova). That's what happens when yiu run out of material.If you think that you made a good argument, think again because it was retarded
>>222186938My point was that anime that end on filler and never reach a conclusion are worse than filler seasons that might be longer but actually finish the full manga story, not a condemnation of the anime studio or some shit. Obviously you can't do anything about it if the mangaka isn't writing it.
>>222169404like 9 different characters look exactly like naruto
why did kishimoto back off on sakura not being sarada's mom? why waste so many chapters on nothing?
>>222146695Maybebleach is better than both of them thoughboruto and post-timeskip one piece are the lowest pieces of media I'd ever consumed
>>222174145>"Pain is too much of an edgelord">And he posted 2 guys whose entire gimmicks were mutilating their own bodies, one is a literal masochist
>>222187235bleach sucks because it went on too long. eventually he ran out of ideas and just kept throwing new characters into the mix until there were 6,000,000 characters wasting time
>>222187293>bleach sucks because it went on too long.One piece has been going continuously since 1997.
Naruto was popular because it was hot off the heels of Dragon Ball and Harry Potter, and tickled that combination of both.
>>222146695I do miss when anime was social suicide. The only people that liked anime publicly were weird spergs. In highschool we had some narutards and my personal favorite was the weird kid who basically cosplayed as Edward from Full Metal Alchemist every day. It could have been 120 degrees and he would have worn the red coat.
Temari was way hotter than she had any right to be. Blonde hair, blue eyes, huge tits, and fish nets. No fucking idea where they got off putting this all together on a 15 year old. Retarded outfit but I'll be damned if it didn't do things to me
>>222189038
Naruto's obsession with sasgay is so fucking retarded and yet kino at the same time.
>>222186891Most realistic post here. Everyone i knew watched dbz, but if you even said the word "anime" at school you were labeled as a weird nerd. I had one of my best friends who loved bleach, never got into it personally, but that was fine(i never would have admitted to watching yu yu hakusho, or sailor moon, or browsing 4chan and knowing what a "meme" was). Normal kids watched shit like lost or survivor. Noone read western comic books i knew of either, we were on the hunt for playboys and penthouses.
>people are pretending to not know that Naruto is more popular than One Piece outside of Japan
>>222146695>even more than One Piece.One Piece did not get popular in North America until around COVID. As someone who grew up watching anime since the 90's and read the One Piece manga in 2004, for years the series struggled to gain popularity in NA compared to other Shonen Jump series which consistently overshadowed it.A large part of this is because there wasn't a proper dub of the series besides the meme 4kids version while every other mega hit series had one that helped skyrocket their popularity. Naruto was basically the most popular anime since Yugioh which was the most popular since DBZ. Every couple years a new Baby's First Shonen series gets popular. Naruto exploded and was the biggest in years and maintained that relevency for like a decade.
>>222146695can only speak for america but naruto was the second coming of dbz and filled the void when it ended. in those times anime wasnt widley available, streaming was in its infancy and most normal fags didnt know how to torrent so they could only watched they found on tv. and back then people liked edgy shows more and naruto was perfect for that. one piece was seen as childish and goofy and the bad 4kids dub intensified that 10 fold so for years people were disinterested off of one piece until mid 2010s.
>>222189038>huge titsmosquito bites compared to tsunade
>>222191743tsunade doesnt even have huge breasts, they only are if you are japanese where the scale starts with most women barely being more than washboardsi think shes really only a DD cup which isn't huge on the world scale but gigantic in japan
I am currently at episode ~410 of One PieceI like it
>>222191564ehh they either don't know or are bullshitting (for whatever reason) but Naruto is insanely popular even today. And the show is great for what it is, idk why people say it's bad
>>222146695At some point there was nothing bigger than Naruto. Bigger than even DBZ.
>>222146695Naruto was peak autism. Like out of all the anime weirdos Naruto kids were the worst. Dbz kids were annoying spics and gym bros. One piece fans are cool and chill though
DBZ, Naruto, Bleach and One Piece are nice and i like them all.But in my opinion none of them come close to HxH in terms of actual kino and writing. At least among these big 100+ ep ones. This show feels like it's on another level
>>222186891These things vary by location, but the big three was a thing in the west for a reason. Naruto and Bleach were HUGE when I was in middle school and they were airing on Toonami. Even girls and hood black kids knew what they were. FMA was well-regarded but more niche like most shorter shows. Pokemon, Digimon, and Yugioh were all anime many had seen at a younger age, too.>>222191392>Noone read western comic books i knew of either, we were on the hunt for playboys and penthouses.Lol. Had me in the first half ngl.
>>222191813Tsunade officially has 106cm bust or a JJ cup internationally. Also, DD isn't huge in the real world anymore because of rising obesity levels more than anything else.
>>222192696uhh obesity got nothing to do with it, big tits are still big tits
>>222146755fpbp
>>222192528Yu yu hakusho mogs hxh hard
>>222192726What? Yes, in real life, obesity is absolutely driving the increase in average breast size. The average 5'4 woman in the US is now 170 pounds.
>>222192773not really lol, it goes to shit pretty fast while HxH peaks with the final arcs. Only like the first half is good and even that isn't better than HxH at any point
>>222192773Truth nuke. I like both a lot, though and I'll admit YYH's last arc's pretty shit.>>222192925>Only like the first half is good and even that isn't better than HxH at any pointUtter lunacy to say Dark Tournament isn't better than Greed Island.
>>222192968Yeah yuskue demon arc was kinda over the top but I just love how the show ends
>>222167723Episodes of charging in DBZ are filler, this never happens in the manga. Ironically the naruto manga does have a few chapters of just charging and screaming, see naruto 4 tails vs orochimaru
>>222187235>boruto and post-timeskip one piece are the lowest pieces of media I'd ever consumedBoruto's trash, but post-timeskip One Piece is nowhere close to that bad even if I'd agree it's not as good as pre-timeskip. Its biggest problem is the snail-like pacing.
Uchiha fucking SHITS
>>222193562Tobirama knew
>>222185594>How come the Naruto fanbase was so autistic compared to the Dragon Ball fanbaseLol. Dragon Ball got an entire generation obsessed with power levels, lifting, and believing that flying into a rage and screaming at the top of your lungs lets you win fights.
>>222193562Where's Hashirama
>>222187156Sameface is common in anime, the more important part is that basically every main character and antagonist has easily definable traits in their character design.One of the reasons Boruto DOESN'T work is because the character designs feel too similar. A lot of the characters that aren't part of the main 4-ish look like pallet swaps
Remember when people thought the Byakugan was on par or stronger than sharinganI fkn hate shippuden soo much
>>222192462live action when?
>>222196742Now. They're already casting Team 7.
>>222160024I know, but it never should have had my previous pic rel.The show once was about Ninjas and not magic fkn Gundams firing nukes.>>222159536You are just a retard who doesnt understand how stupid you are.great argument right?See my previous points.Naruto suffered from the most obvious shonen problem, escalation.Post Pain, you couldnt have a fight below Kage level anymore.The whole "freedom vs destiny" stuff from Naruto vs Neji at the chunin exam was reversed.Naruto is a quadrouple chosen one.Son of, Student of, Host of, Reincarnation of, Prophecy of...Kaguya and all the *insertancientalienmeme.png* shit was just as badHaving to keep Sasuke on par with Naruto was just as dumb, One guy is host of the most powerful "known" being, the other is an edgy kid with red eyes.Just try to understand what this show once was and what it became over time.
>You see>the entirety of Pain secret plan>which was actually Obitos secret plan>which was actually Madaras secret plan>was actually MY secret plan >to revive this ancient alien milf>which a couple days ago>nobody even knew existed>you could say Naruto>and Naruto Shippuden >was my great plan ALL ALONG>and i would have gotten away with it too >if it weren't for you meddling kids
>>222197710Heh
Naruto is very gay.
>>222198836Ironically or unironically?
>>222199022Nothing gayer than liking girls
>>222159448Tobirama , my fav racist ~ but really i love water bending and all the based unhinged shit he invented, or at least build the groundwork for.As for Naruto's generation, it would prob be Aburame Shino, his creepy bug clan symbiosis is underrated.
>>222146695hebe ninja cunnies
>>222187156True, i think some of them are supposed to be a bit like a dark mirror of what Naruto *could've become if things were even more dire, or if his willpower was weak. I still cant stand ''coolest guy ever'' Obito though.
>>222158204>>222160096Indeed. Kino fight and kino transcending-a-fight finale. Pain arc was unironically epic.
>>222200038Both.
>>222158204It's almost kino enough to make you forget how fucking batshit retarded Naruto's eternal simp quest for Sasuke was
>>222192506>One piece fans are cool and chill thoughI've had people threaten to kill me in my sleep because I insulted one piece.People that actually know where I live.
>>222146757daily reminder that the chatbot parses all this data from reddit because Sam Altman assassinated the previous owner with troon suicide juice
>>222199022It's true, I've seen the videos.
>>222203186Sasuke being female would've solved a lot of narrative problems...
>>222203530>Sasuke being female would've solved a lot of narrative problems
>>222203779This could've led to a shit ton of anime and manga featuring an emo girl as the rival AND love interest.
>>222203530nothing a little sexy jutsu can't solve
>>222203779Bet she wouldn't have fucked off for 12 years and abandoned Naruto to be a single father to their kids either.
>>222203779>that manga where nalto fucks female saske
Chikushodo
>>222203530The simping would still have been cringe. Imagine being obsessed with a person who was only somewhat nice to you for like a year at most before they decided to kill you
>>222197710Man the ending towards shippuden was such a clusterfuck i didnt even care about the plot, i just wanted it to end.
>>222146755the only reason One Piece is now so popular in the U.S. is because most other big manga/anime franchises ended their stories. Naruto, Bleach, DBZ, and even recent ones like MHA, JJK, Black Clover, etc. all ended. One Piece only survives due to its longevity and not its quality compared to others with similar followings.
For me it's Kidomaru
>>222204614Do you like archery?
>>222146695From the mid 2000s to around 2010 it was easily the most popular anime/manga among western teens. The kids that grow up with DBZ in elementary school found Naruto in middle/highschool and something of It made the stage into a massive teenagers magnetOne Piece had both the disaster of 4Kids making it much less popular in the US, and a drawing style that made it look more "childish" compared to the average Naruto edgelord. So while popular Always played the second fiddle to Naruto until around Marineford/Ninja War, when eventually surpassed it thanks of how a botched slog the Naruto Final War Arc wasBut still, Juan Piss never reached the absolute peaks of popularity Naruto in th West has from 2007 to circa 2010, when was almost (almost!) equal peak DBZ of the late 90s/early 00s
>>222186641>story starts off with a kid having to have a literal demon nuke inside him, being an orphan and having to live alone while his own village despises him for the demon that killed their relatives>but the kid is extremely resilient and keeps banging his head on the wall instead of having some elite skills or genetic family lineages helping him out>ff 300-400 chapters>no actually true skill and ability is purely genetic lmaosomeone pointed this out a long time ago and it stuck with me
>>222205785>demon nuke>inside him
>>222204640I like to shoot arrows right in my hot ass
Cucked.
>>222146695One Piece was seen as too childish, the 4kids dub ruined its reputation in the west, by the time Funimation got its act together Naruto was already #1 for years.I think Naruto Shippuden had already been dubbed by that point, plus yeah the early arcs do look more cartoonish in comparison to Naruto so even people that tried to jump in were turned off.
>>222159448For me it's Madara, he was hyped for years, then he showed up and seemed to exceed the hype.
Killer B beating the shit out of Sasuke is the most satisfying moment in the series.
>>222207465I like the part at 0:32, who cares if your enemy can see predict movement half a second before it happens if 12 possible things are happening at once to which you have to react before the option was locked in.
>>222207465I should rewatch that episode.
>>222189038I thought these were fishnets until the one (1) scene in the entire show where it shows Jiraiya changing and his fishnets made a metal sound
>>222208382ISo what are those then, if they aren't fishnets?
>>222208548They're chain mail. I thought they were just going with the BDSM fashion style since i just watched yugioh before which did the same
