All dwarves are bastardsPrevious >>222179550
>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
>Alicent Hightower, the Dowager Queen!
So sick of looking at Alicent's weak facial structure
Does anyone still keep faith with Stannis Baratheon?
threesome with helaena and daeron for me bros
Now that the dust has settled, Why was Aery's called the Mad king?He was right about everything save the personal hygiene.
>>222183411Look at Aemond though, there were some mighty facial genes in there
>>222183428because he was fucking nuts lol
>>222183428Because the conspiracies he was paranoid about were caused by none other than himself
>>222183413more than ever. only stannis can save young westerosi girls from ending up like ashara. we desperately need stannis to win
Cumming on Ashara’s big, soft tiddies.
Mother of cats
>>222183428>be mad>everyone tries to get rid of you for this very readon>be madderIt's still his fault. Even bringing the stinking dornishmen/women to court was his idea
>>222183428Burning Brandon and Rickard is so breathtakingly stupid even from an "evil king" perspective that it's not recoverable from. I mean for crying out loud, you have the perfect opportunity to execute your son who's been trying to usurp you for years at this point and instead you make it clear to the high lords that they *have* to get rid of you or you will just kill them all on stupid pretexts.
>>222183655honestly this, its his only real blunder. but i think it was because he still loved his son. he knew about the conspiracy against him and he did nothing. he just couldnt bring himself to harming his own flesh and blood. not mad, just a father...
>>222183655>instead you make it clear to the high lords that they *have* to get rid of you or you will just kill them all on stupid pretextsAerys II was playing 4D chess you fucking idiotIf he shit-tests them and they rebel and try to kill him, they were rebels on the inside all along
>>222183413He is the rightful king, simple as.
Sex with Penny.
>>222183413I mean he's going to burn Shireen. Ultimately Stannis was never going to win, and despite all his nobility he just had too few resources in the end to manage it. I think he managed to capture outsized attention by virtue of the fact that he made it to ADWD without getting killed/having his moral break by killing Shireen, and then the plot stalled for 15 years. He's not even going to make it to the final bracket of the war for the Iron Throne because it's going to come down to FAegon vs Dany.
>>222183655Now I want a fanfic where Aerys sides with Brandon and Rickard and gets rid of Rhaegar.
>>222183732Kind of a shame. Never was a Stannis fan but fAegon and Dany are so fucking boring.
>>222183732Stannis will serve Faegon as hand. Faegon will marry Shireen.
>>222183738End result is probably either everyone waits for Viserys instead and if Viserys is still a shithead* the STAB alliance tries to marry Robert to Cersei and incorporate the Lannisters too, thereby building a coalition that can flat out get a Grand Council or steamroll a civil war if they don't.
>>222183738he could have sided with them and bobby. just tell them that rhaegar acted alone and hes planning to take over the kingdoms, promise to bring rhaegar to justice, name vizzy your new heir and its basically done. all you have to defeat is rhaegar, a few traitor kingsguard and maybe a small force of rhaegar loyalists
>>222183732If Stannis burns Shireen it will be to save Westeros from the Others, not to defeat the Jobber of Dreadfort. Maybe it is better that gurm will never finish the books and Stannis will never have to realize he wasn't Azor Ahai and burnt his daughter for naught.
>>222183763>shtannish cut oof me fingersh!damn you've convinced us, go ahead and have a million Iron Bank Dollars
>>222183760the really funny thing is all the Rhaegar bullshit and the discord call duel interruption and Elia/Ashara shagging their way through Harrenhal has all overshadowed the Mad Queen Dany confirmation (because now it's two adaptations that back it).
>>222183818It's kind of ironic that the most interest monarch that GRRM writes in the series is the one he never planned on in his initial pitch
now Gwayne I can get into!
>>222183799I don't think anyone would side with Rhaegar in this eventuality except maybe Arthur - even the Dornish as a whole can't make a move because Elia and her kids are in KL. Likely Arthur tries to get Rhaegar and Lyanna to Essos, meaning we could end up with Robert, Ned and Brandon heading to Essos on a manhunt to get Lyanna back.
>>222183827That's because everyone accepted mad queen dany a decade ago save from a few japanese soldiers in remote islands in the pacific convinced the war is still going on
>>222183863They'll make him shit himself at Tumbleton and scamper away to Oldtown or something
>>222183732stannis can still win, heres how
>>2221839121 - Don't siege winterfell, take it immediately
>>222183949how?
>>222183912Stannis opponents are either hated by everyone, raided by magic ironnigger, invaded by fAegon or busy arguing which queen is the biggest whore. He will win.
>>222183844honestly the only interesting end grrm could still write would be stannis somehow winning the throne in the end
>>222183413of course
>>222184002>or busy arguing which queen is the biggest whoreIt's that smirking piece of shit from highgarden, who is probably working with tyrion to worsen my mood
>>222183882I had everyone screaming that it was going to be an accident or JonCon or whatever for basically years
>>222183975If Stannis had someone who has experience in taking Winterfell with a smaller force.
>>222183413Why would I? He's never even won a land battle against a peer opponent.
>>222184002He's just had one of his closest allies (Jon) murdered and the whole north is about to implode even if he does defeat the Boltons and Freys.
>>222184069Because CHADnnis has no peers.His enemies are many, his equals are none.
>>222184069to be fair, no one has
>>222184055...Oh shit! Tycho Nestoris?
>>222184081Jon will tank it and Davos will return with Rickon and Cannibal.
>>222184055When it was garrisoned by like 2 guys, Roose has thousands of men. >>222184069He defeated the wildlings while massively outnumbered
>>222183975by listening to Jon and the boomer Norfmen's advice and marching right after he took out the Ironborn. Based on most book timelines Stannis sat on his ass for almost 2 months before marching on Winterfell. The Boltons were chilling with the Dustins, if Stannis had marched straight away the entire situation would have been reversed and Stannis would be comfy in Winterfell while the Boltons froze to deathStannis did the same thing he did at the start of the war, sit around doing nothing thinking that every Northern lord would just swear fealty to him
>>222184069Why specifically a land battle?
>>222184128The issue is that Stannis is desperate to get more men, he's been reduced to a tiny army again. It's not even pride this time he's at a point where any defeat will wipe him out.
>>222184128GRRM loves to play with timelines so people end up sitting around so that a later plot can sync up just right
>>222184141Because if sea battles are admissable obliterating the ironborn in the only field they excel at is a reminder that Stannis is a really dangerous general, even if he's not quite the prodigy that Robb is
>>222184119Most of Roose's men are secretly in league with Stannis and of those who aren't a good portion are secretly plotting to kill the leechmaxxer any way just for the hell of it.I fucking love the pure sordidness of a failing regime under siege and it's delusions.
>>222184119Thousands of men who hate him and his bastard.
>>222184141Naval battles are gauche. >>222184119>wildlings Mostly women and children. Men dressed in skins wielding clubs.
>>222184119like 90% of the men inside the castle are just waiting for the signal to open the gates from inside. It's obvious that Manderly, Barbrey, Umber, and a few others are just waiting for Stannis to show up so they can flip sides. Dustin went into the crypts with Theon to confirm the missing swords so she knew Manderly wasn't bullshitting about Rickon and Bran being alive and lore dumps about how despite hating Ned, she always wanted to be a Stark
>>222184192>she always wanted to be a StarkI-is big Barb going to insist on a marriage with Rickon?
>>222184190They outnumber him like 20 to 1, some of their troops are actual fucking giants and they also have passable medium infantry units like the Thenns. Stannis got off a boat after sailing half a continent away and then immediately assessed the situation and smashed them.
>>222184219I'd tap that GILF
>>222184219Only after Jon refuses.
>>222184184Yeah but conversely a bunch of Stannis's Karstarks are of questionable loyalty. Also who tf sent that goddamn letter? Mance?
>>222184252Ramsay warged by Bran.
>>222184184Ramsay is going to get fucking rekt>he'll try retreating to the Dreadfort after abandoning Roose>just in time for punished post-resurrection Jon Snow to arrive with an army of wildlings, giants, mammoths, and wolves>Ramsay gets skullfucked because Jenye Poole got sent straight to Braavos without Jon seeing her to realize she's fake, all he knows was that "Arya" was tortured brutally by Ramsay>Jon commits to RETVRN to the Hungry Wolf brutality days and hangs him by his entrails from a weirwood
So yeah, what's roose's plan anyways? He HAS to know the northern lords aren't loyal to him, and he knows Ramsay isn't loyal to him either, so why isn't he holed up in the dreadfort?
>>222184327>fuck Ramsay is too retarded and this body is crumbling, I need new host
>>222184342But Ramsay as a host is so incredibly compromised its not even funny, like, the second he switches he has everyone at his throat
>>222184158The manderly will reinforce his army
>>222184365He knows, that's why he hopes Jon will have icy blue eyes after resurrection or just hopes Roose will live until his family from his mother's side arrives and he doesn't have to use disguises.
>>222184327He is desperate now and hope the freys and manderlys save this ass
>>222184327>what's roose's plan anywaysCrashing the north.With no survivors.
>>222184327Winterfell is currently the epicenter of an obviously magic snowstorm, implied to be because there's somebody other than a Stark occupying Winterfell. Every single gate is frozen shut but one, roofs are collapsing under the snow. Roose can't leave if he wanted to and if he did he'd freeze just like Stannis>Plumes of grey smoke snaked up from the rebuilt kitchens and reroofed barracks keep. The battlements and crenellations were crowned with snow and hung with icicles. All the color had been leached from Winterfell until only grey and white remained. The Stark colors. Theon did not know whether he ought to find that ominous or reassuring. Even the sky was grey. Grey and grey and greyer. The whole world grey, everywhere you look
>Lord Seaworth is a man of humble birth, but he reminded me of my duty, when all I could think of was my rights. I had the cart before the horse, Davos said. I was trying to win the throne to save the kingdom, when I should have been trying to save the kingdom to win the throne.
>>222184069Define peer opponent.
>>222183413No faith in kinslayers traitors followers of foreign cruel religion.
>>222184477Genuinely cruel that he's going to die a murderer.
>>222184477>"I am no lord, sire. You came because we sent for you, I hope. Though I could not say why you took so long about it.">Surprisingly, Stannis smiled at that. "You're bold enough to be a Stark. If not for my Hand, I might not have come at all"no homo stannis bros?
>>222184512Stannis never even has a flat out land battle against a peer opponent if the wildlings don't count anyway. The Blackwater was a siege and aside from one gross strategic error (sieging Storm's End first) and one tactical one (not making Davos fleet commander) Stannis got absolutely fucked over by sheer bad luck on all sides
>Character is named Egg>Is obsessed with dragon eggs
Ah yes, our loyal and trustworthy vassals from the evilfort, where they use human remains to hold the torches. What would we do without them having our back?
>>222184006Stannis winning but being broken by all that happened during fight with the Others like sacrificing Shireen, realizing he isn't AA and it didn't work, would be kino ending.
>>222183343can ser pissedon gabbagole fuck off and die already
>>222184646Ser Glup of house Shitto
>>222184604>one rebellion in 4000 years before the booksalways good to have a brutal enforcer willing to do the dirty work, but you have to make sure they know who's boss. Blame Robb for being an utter retard and the worst Stark to ever live. Roose knew not to fuck around to flagrantly when Ned was in charge and even Jon knew Ned never trusted him. Yet Robb gave him 75% of his army with no oversight
>>222184646I don't even know who is that meant to be, come up with better slander names.
every Baratheon needs a ride or die bro to ground them. Shame Renly chose poorly for his
>>222184571Stannis got the Stark bullshit treatment, because otherwise the Lannisters would/should have been curbstomped
>>222184679>the worst Stark to ever liveHe is not Arya or Creddit Stark.
>*sniffs the finest bussy juice from the highest quality twink squires in all of westeros*
>>222184679Robb is not an utter retard he just had to pick a commander on the spur of the moment and picked one he knew was scary. It's cruel that this random decision ends up completely fucking up his life
>>222184709Loras is unquestionably loyal to Renly and through their alliance Renly built an unstoppable bulldozer army that would have won the war if not for magic assassins
>>222183411
>>222184714Are you besmirching the name of Cregan "are they done fighting yet? Am I safe? Stark? How dare you, he is the finest swordsman in Westeros and will prove it so long as the armies have all killed each other and he's in the clear
>>222184604>GRRM rights morally grey characters. Not just straight up evil minions like Sauron. >Oh, and here are the Boltons, with their flayed man banner. Their Lord is a vampire who bathes in blood and speaks only in whispers. And that's Ramsay, his child. Roose made Ramsay when he raped his mother on her wedding night and hung her husband. Ramsay likes raping corpses and feeding babies to dogs. They live in a black castle called the dreadfort where they build furniture out of bones and hang skinned men from the walls.> As you can see, its very morally grey.
>>222184753Loras strayed Renly from supporting Stannis
>>222183413just me
>>222184796I like the Roose's first son is just a really nice guy. I guess he still has all the evil corpse stuff but he's nice about it.
poppa bear?
How would he solve the succession crisis?
>>222184714>first Stark to let Winterfell be captured>first Stark to lose Moat Cailin>first Stark to lose their King/Warden title in 8000+ years>trusted an Ironborn to be smart or loyal>did nothing to prevent a wilding invasion, only Jon prevented the entire North from being taken over>lost the entire Western coast of the North>majority of the North starving already because he started a long war right before Winter>got the majority of the Northern army slaughtered defending Tully landkek, it's not even close. Robb is going to be a Northern horror story in the future like the Rat King or Night's King
>it's another rape scene
>>222184832Marry Shiv to Roman and make Kendall COO
>>222184044Forgive me, I didn't expect Gurm to be such a hack.
>>222184832You mean the dance? >YOU WILL MARRY YOUR LITTLE BROTHER AEGON
>>222184685proof u dont watch ur own show
>>222183343It is just nice to see people forced back to earth on Rhaegar and Lyanna. No more discussion about he is an evil rapist. It is all over. They have no more legs to stand on.
>>222184852Kek, wrong thread
>>222184817Roose should have had Ramsey killed when he was a child. He wouldn't have lost his heir
>>222184839>character gets raped, threatened with rape, and/or rape is mentioned every episode this season>Ormund cracks jokes about Gwayne being a zesty lil fruitcakeGwaynebros...I'm scared...
>>222184637I see this as a possible end for him but instead of king he'll be Lord Commander to the new Weirwood wall Night's Watch after the ice melts
>>222184732>critical choice of who is in charge of the majority of your army, not something to rush>could pick any of the dozen lords you know are loyal and have also fought in multiple wars>choose the one your direwolf hates and you don't like on gut instinct, because your retarded Tully mother says he's "cunning">let him stay in charge after he loses 1/3rd of your army due to a moronic battle plan(in a battle that never needed to happen in the first place)Robb is a bum
>>222184832how would he solve the Others?>they can obviously be negotiated with based on Craster's deal
>>222184832After Rook's Rest, reach out to Corlys and offer him Alicent. Corlys needs heirs, and it would steal Velyarons for Aegon.
>>222184732He could have chosen the blackfish but nooo
>>222184753Tyrells are the utter fucking whores of the story. No shame whatsoever, just teaming up with whoever offers them the best deal. I spit on them.
>>222184832Invite Daemon and Rhaenyra to dinner then kill them
>>222184859He will always disappoint you, I knew he was a hack and was reading today about a lady who married her step son and when the High Septon complained told him to fuck himself and won!? Like she kept going to whatever the Seven equivalent of a massive was even when they told her to go away? It's stupid. GRRM will always disappoint you.
>>222185000Because the blackfish stays with him. Robb's real unforgivable sin is not telling Edmure the plan
>>222184714"The Late Wolf" was actually a great Stark in the same way that Walder was a great Frey before the Red Wedding.
>>222184833>Called himself the 'Young Wolf' heh... the pomposity.>Awooo...>Forever young.based Walder and Roose
>introduced on season 3>barely a line>not name dropped>kills a somewhat beloved character that has been present since season 1>somehow doesn't feel nearly as bad as quasimodo shanking the night kingkek
I'm actually more interested in a timeline where the Boltons hold out a while longer than a timeline where Stannis btfos themI like Stannis but it truly feels his role in the story is exhausted, there is not much else for him to do at this point
>>222185249>somehow doesn't feel nearly as bad as quasimodo shanking the night kingHouse of the Dragon didn't open with a scene that makes clear that Criston Cole is the ultimate evil everyhting is leading up to
>>222185269Stannis will die fighting the boltons because he was never meant to take the throne
>>222185249Cole is supposed to die anticlimactically
>>222185269He has to btfo Freys at least. The battle of Ice had been built up far too much for it not to happen.
>>222184833In fairness all of this is downwind of Balon being stupid beyond belief. Balon attacking the north is still the single dumbest decision made in ASOIAF.
>>222184833>>did nothing to prevent a wilding invasion, only Jon prevented the entire North from being taken overStannis you mean. And the Boltons along with the other houses would've fought off the wildlings anyway.
>Lyanna, on her deathbed, realizes that she's been used and conned has her brother promise her to never tell Jon about that prophecy since he has nothing to do with itKek.
>>222185337There was nothing to even sack in the north, it truly was just Balon chimping out over a decade old grudge
>>222185269he has to at least defeat dany before he goes
>>222184839>the Starks put on their raping furs
>>222185337GURM WAS A HACK AND GAVE THE LANNISTERS PLOT ARMOR
>>222185411>I'm dying, might as well give my brother one last fuck you and fuck up his new marriage
>>222185337>balon known for being a retard even when compared to other Ironborn>send him the only leverage you have over him and trust him to make a logical decisionbig brain Robb>>222185394without Jon's warning the Wall falls instantly and he held it for days before any backup arrived>>222185411>visions of silver haired girl hatching dragons>surely this is the 3rd head, Visenya>births a boy that looks 100% Starkhow retarded did Lyanna feel in that moment?
>>222183343How come the shows are so bad compared to the books
>>222183413I grow suspicious of his motives but in battle I'd follow him all the way to the heart of winter
Do you think Cersei had the zombie Mountain RAPE Septa Unella?
>>222185316why
>>222185394The north was reeling from an invasion and on the precipice of a fucking civil war. If Mance's army had forced the war there would be fuckall Rose dearest could do about it.
>>222185550Because "I'll have no songs sung about how 'brave' you died, Kingmaker. There's tens of thousands dead on your account." is a great line and of course they removed it.
>>222185507Why did Rhaegar even name his eldest child afteer hte youngest member of the Aegontrio anyway?The Jon Aegon stuff may actually hold water if the man invited such nominative disorder into his household.
>>222184604>where they use human remains to hold the torchesThis is fine
>>222185559The fuck are the wildlings going to do the second the northern houses start mowing them down in full armor?Mance is not the first king to try this gambit and it always failsIf anything he would be doing Roose a huge favor because he would have a common cause to rally the north behind, which would give him loyalty, legitimacy, and buy him a couple of years of no rebellious houses
>SIX FUCKING DRAGONS>DOES FUCKALL WITH THEM
>>222185604Doing it in a church and doing it in your house is a bit different.
>>222183413I like the theory that he become the Night King
>>222184833>>first Stark to let Winterfell be captured>>first Stark to lose Moat Cailin>>first Stark to lose their King/Warden title in 8000+ years>>trusted an Ironborn to be smart or loyal>>did nothing to prevent a wilding invasion, only Jon prevented the entire North from being taken over>>lost the entire Western coast of the North>>majority of the North starving already because he started a long war right before Winter>>got the majority of the Northern army slaughtered defending Tully landAll of this are good deeds.The less Starks and Northerners the better for everyone.
>>222185606They're not going to have to do anything because the north has been bleed so dry by war against the Lannisters, war against the Ironborn, the red wedding, and soon enough war against itself that it won't be able to mount a coordinated response to a hundred thousand wildlings dispersing all over the kingdom.
>>222183413The leaks for Winds of Winter make him look even more bad ass.>>222183428People didn't get his sense of humor. It wasn't that he was truly insane. It was just he that he had edgy comedic sensibilities.
Was the Dance really a bad thing? The show is portraying Daemon wanted to create a New Valyria.
>>222183428It was actually a complimentary nickname y'know, like oh Aerys, such a mad lad, he's like the Mad King!
>>222185735No, mass targshit death is based and so are the dragons going extinctWe light the way.
>>222185606they've never managed to get more than a few thousand past the Wall and no King has ever unified that many. Or brought giants and mammoths with them. Mance has 40K fighters and every castle they capture gives them actual steel weapons and armor>the second the northern houses start mowing them down in full armorthe majority of their army is in the South, the North can raise a few thousand men at most and they are old men or teenagers. By the time they can even march North the Wildlings would have captured half the castles and nobility of the North as hostages
>>222185735It's the second best thing to happen in Westeros.
>>222185606>The fuck are the wildlings going to do the second the northern houses start mowing them down in full armor?Take advantage over vast territory.There shitton of villages for Wildlings to plunder and force local population to flee into the castles, stressing Northern lords food stocks. Mountain clans equiped not much different from the wildlings and they kicked out Ironborn garrison from Deepwood.Of course if Mance managed to keep his horde intact
>>222184796>Noooooo the books are not nihilistic, they're about hope and shit>Btw, Roose was able to undermine Robb's entire war effort behind his back because good is dumb and no one was checking up at him and the honorable lords like Glover had no problem taking orders from a guy who encourages rape and indiscriminate murder of civilians
>>222185813>no one was checking up at him*on him
>>222185499>>222185507>>222185411CHADraven decided Targshits were frauds after sending him to the wall and made him rediscover his love for first men roots and it was them, not targshits, who protected the realm for thousands of years.So he wanted to hook up Ned, a First man but with moralfag (MC upbringing), with a fertile good woman who would love and bear him the promised new dynasty, Catelyn. He needed to get the rid of Brandon for that and to make him the Heir, and used the Targs. There's an emphasis about the "Third child" in the play and a light shed if Arya OR Bran is the third child. Which means a nod to Tv show and how Bran becomes King (chosen by daddyven).
KINDLY REMINDER THAT THE PLAY IS NOT CANON. THAT IS ALL. THANK YOU.
>>222185735Creating New Valyria is bad though.
>>222185813What is the criticism here, that a 15 year old can't make strategic mistakes because its "nihilistic"?
>>222185595He didn't in the play. Nobody names him and Lyanna hands him to Ned before she dies of cringe. Ned chooses to name him Jon.
>>222185862That's why I don't think it's bad.
>>222185843Catelyn is literally the only non slut proper lady who is fertile and loyal from her generation. Ned really won the lottery.
>>222185843The third blackfyre war probably opened his eyes and he decided to do something wild to get a free ride to the north killing one last blackfyre.
>>222185595Rhaegar was expecting a GIRL. That's confirmed. Lyanna was expecting one too. They saw a vision of Dany and assumed that was their daughter, Visenya. Nobody named him. Jon came from Ned.He's also a bastard. Because Lyanna and Rhaeghar never married.
>>222185867That the side of good got fucked in the ass because they've just allowed the shifty guy of dubious loyalty to control the better half of their army. And that no one was smart or honorable enough to to report his shenanigans to Robb.
>>222185918>Catelyn is literally the only non slut proper lady who is fertile and loyal from her generation.She is still a Tully
>>222185879Rhaegar named his oldest child Rhaenys.
>>222185918>Lysa>lost her maidenhead to Littlefinger>Elia>lesbian with fragile health, plotting to kill her husband and good father>Ashara>really gets around with all men and women that crosses her path>Cersei>narcissistic and murderous, who wouldn't settle for anything but a male version of herself or an "ideal prince" >Lyanna>runs off with a married man because of a visionWho else do we got? Literally Cat was the only good woman of this barrel.Beautiful, loyal, fierce, she's jealous and mean to Jon because she loves Ned and is insecure he keeps another woman in his heart because he refuses to talk about Jon's mom.
>>222185984Whent-Tully are hot, though.
>>222186026Still a Tully, which means smart as sunfish
>>222186001Yes, and he thought he was siring Visenya.
>>222185766The Wildlings break into a dozen different warbands the second they clear the Wall.No discipline and too many small men with big egos for a long term campaign against the North.
>>222186055But the tully lad in the dance is smart as fuck, blackfish was smart too. Cat isn't dumb, she was betrayed by two people who were supposed to be her allies: her sister and childhood friend.
>One notification>Open my DMs>find thisWhat the fuck
>>222186055Dude, NED told Cersei he was going to out her children as bastards. No matter what Cat did, Ned is a million times dumber.
>>222186078That will just make it harder for the northmen to root them out.
>fuck a depraved slut like ashara>settle down with a virgin qt catbrandon had it all figured out
>>222183413I like the guy, but I can't go against my liege lord, "The Roose is Loose" Bolton.Plus it's quite obvious that he's going to lose against the Boltons in the Battle of Ice. I have no idea why people think that a foreign Southron army has any sort of terrain advantage against a Northern force. Stannis' armored knights are going to fall through the ice and die just like the Templar Knights they're based off of.
>>222186112Got what he deserved
>>222186089Can't read cursive and lol all the way to the wall.
>>222186119>Southron army has any sort of terrain advantage against a Northern forceThe manderlys are planning to backstab the boltons
>>222186119What northern army? Every lord is behing Stannis lmao
>>222186089
Arya was vindicated that her dad only loved Cat.
>>222186085>But the tully lad in the dance is smart as fuck,>team blackDoubt>Cat isn't dumb>Tyrion is a dwarf, so he must be the one who tried to assasinate branYeah brilliant move
why does /tv/ want her to fail?
>>222185862This. People don't seem to understand that unification is not a good thing. The Targaryens are basically a stand in for the New World Order and the Others are basically a generic extinction event. The ultra elites think anyone cares about the survival of the species when they can barely make ends meet. The Others are the good guys because they are the ones trying to end everyone's suffering. The Targaryens are the idiot elites trying to unite the planet which would be a threat to the Others but ultimately make THEM the extinction event by ruining the diversity of the kingdoms. Again, it's like the Freemasons and the Illuminati trying to guide the species and "protect" it by basically sealing it inside a box and setting it up for the ultimate extinction.
>>222183383>hairy arms>mannish hands>smallish boobsmiss widdat, even if that's not a man.
>>222186271She's a fucking retard
>>222186271I hate women
Feed the smallfolk!
>>222186271I was liking the Blacks but she's getting annoying now that she's got the throne. Pretty bad at the whole queen thing. It seems like S1 Nyra was much more decisive.
>>222186271She aint Christian, trad, or conservative.
>>222186078a dozen different warbands that all have wargs that can scout any army coming to attack them. And with winter here the wildlings have the advantage, they can just roam the wolfswood the entire winter living off the land and raiding
What if Velaryons looked like this instead?
This is how Daeron the Daring should have looked like
In high school Ser Crispy listened to My Chemical Romance and wore black eyeliner and lipstick. But he was also good at wrestling and football so his best option was to go Kingsguard boot camp instead of art school.
>>222186089>trueborn lordmakes me kek every time>>222186119>against a Northern forcManderlys are going to flip side, the rest of the army is Freys aka southerners>>222186104it's surprising Ned would underestimate the insanity of women after dealing with Lyanna. He really thought she'd take his advice and flee
>>222186420He is not fucking 30 He is like 12
>>222186455You think that guy looks old?Daeron is like sixteen
>>222186468He doesn't look 12-16
I am so sick of Alicent.
>>222186420>"daeron the daring">looks scared in all his scenes>does nothing
>>222186475Where are you getting this twelve number fromThe guy I posted is 20 currently But in that image he was a teenager however
>>222186487dont worry aemond is going to tame her with his AWC in the next episode. shes going to be trad and pro-green again
>>222186491He looks older
>>222186491Yeah as seen here the guy is seventeen when the image was taken>>222186523
>>222186447I think Criston was my favorite character in this show. Goes to show how bad it is.
>it's another Rhaenicent scene
>>222186271bastards... way too much
>Alicent at Harrenhal
>>222186551Him, Otto and Aegon and to some extent now Ormund are the only interesting characters in this show.
>>222186527But your AI is wrong and it's a photo from the 2025 season.Sorry you are just repeating something incorrect from your false god.
>I'll have no Tiktok edits about how bravely you died Kingmaker>There are thousands dead on your account Why couldn't they just include the line? Are they stupid?
>>222186271Because she's boring
>>222186271what would you have us do?
>>222186271because shes a savage queen and hightowers are the better man
>>222186447>man denied entrance to art school starts a world warShaking my head and crying.
based Ormund
cringe Ormund
neutral Ormund
GRRM ruined Cole himself when he retconned him into a secondary character that does jackshit instead of the main reason the Dance happened in the first place
Cole never did jackshit to begin with, retcon or not
>>222187183He killed /ourguy/ Beesbury because he is a dornish dog
>>222187212trvke he has been avenged
POPPA BEAR!
>>222187161Maybe he was going for that, Cole being a lower class guy blamed as scapegoat. But then he comes off like a dumb asshole anyway. Same with Mysaria
>>222185583The line is absurd in the context of the show since its only been like 3 months and barely anyone has died
>>222187279They even set up the line in the previous episode. Weirdly, they decided to the Black Trombo thing now but not the most important line of his death
ser gregor, a knight who remembered his vows...
Raping Sunfyre's carcass
>>222186509Just kill her off.
>>222187410>In the name of the stranger, I charge you to rape scheming dornish whores and their evil spawn to death
>Mad Queen Dany can't happen, don't you know that Dany claims to be a good person in her own internal monologue? Why are women like this?
>>222187441Stop raping, ser.
Have you apologized yet?
>>222187580Because women also claim to be good people in their internal monologue after they ruin someone's life
I know we rarely agree about anything, but can we at least agree Ygritte is a cutie?
>>222187673Rose a cute
I fucking LOVE the ironborn!
^ this anon will go far in life
>>222187673>>222187718She had the dubious pleasure of appearing in a dogshit pg wodehouse adaptation in which the ormund fellah had previously starred.The more you know, about dogshit deeplore.
>>222187813Now retype whatever the fuck you were trying to say here in English.Which movie did actress Rose Leslie appear in that you are referencing?
>>222185337It would have been a smart move if he'd had a deal with the Lannisters in place before doing it instead of hoping they'd agree to one after he gave up all his leverage.
>>222187609I think it’s fascinating that nature granted them this sort of uniquely feminine sociopathy.
>>222187813She also rode Theo James with her thicc post-pregnancy ass
>>222187580What is even the message of the story if mad queen Dany is canon? that you can't defy your destiny and Targ genes no matter what?
>>222187914Well sometimes the coin flip says greatness and sometimes it says madness but apparently you've got to periodically reflip the coin and double check the result
>>222187914hell is paved with good intentions
Marei is a whore at Chataya's brothel in King's Landing. She is theorized to be a bastard daughter of Tywin Lannister, fathered during his tenure as Hand of the King.Supporting evidenceThe following pieces of information can be seen as evidence:>Marei has green eyes and white-gold hair, which matches the common physical traits of members of House Lannister.>Marei is said to have a solemn demeanor, matching Tywin's personality.>Marei was born in or before 280 AC, which means that there is a good chance she was conceived during Tywin's tenure as Hand of the King, which lasted from 262 AC to 281 AC.>A secret passageway leads from the brothel where Marei is employed to a stable three blocks underneath Rhaenys's Hill. According to Varys, the secret passageway was built on the orders of a Hand of the King "whose honor would not allow him to enter such a house openly". The name of the Hand is not specified by Varys, but several readers have suggested that this description could fit Tywin.>When asked if Tywin had any bastard offspring, George R. R. Martin did not deny this possibility, merely answering that "[Tywin]'d have you flogged for the mere suggestion."
>>222187858I don't think I shall.
Play canon status?
fake and gay
>>222187914The message of the play is clearly that the destiny of man is determined by flowery declamations straight out of Athenian tragedy.
if magic the gathering did a song of ice and fire collab which would be the color of each king/faction?lannister red/whitestark blue/redrenly/highgarden white/greenstannis red/blackironborn blue/blacknight watch black/white?
>>222184753there's really no way to predict or defend from shadow assassin babies desu. Game was rigged for renly.
>>222188077i meant blue/green for the starks
>>222188033then where's the canon ending you fat fuck
>>222188088there is no ending. they'll never come.
>>222187914Dany doesn’t even need to be crazy. Westeros is a complete shithole that longs for chaos and anarchy. Imposing order on it is a losing battle even with dragons because history has shown everyone will find a way to undermine your dragons so they can win back the privilege of constant rebellion and warfare. She can simply be a naive idealist that thinks you can control Westeros without killing basically every great house and replacing it with the next in line and then the next, again and again, until you get people grateful enough for their promotion to help you keep order.
>>222185583It's a redditor line and opinion. Cole in the books is considered one of the greatest if not the greatest knight/warrior of his era. And his last possible opponents refused to duel him in a 1v3 in their favor, while he was also starving, exhausted, probably up for days and likely still wounded. They can say its cause he gets no honorable death, but the thought will ALWAYS be there that he was just such a fucking chad with a flail that they were terrified of fighting even a shadow of him in a 1v3.
>>222187914That you can't really make positive change in the world through violent conquest and overwhelming force. Flying nukes are not going to be a positive in the world no matter how good your intentions are. You can't really be a benevolent dictator. Sort of undone a bit if immortal tree god bran becomes king but lets hope he doesn't go through with that.
>>222188132>redditor line and opinion:polite golf clap:
>>222187914Dany will be driven mad by loss and frustration, the show tried to do this with miss andy and rhaegal getting killed right before dany went postal but obviously the whole arc was completely truncated. Most likely she'll already be teetering by the time she gets to westeros and then seeing faegon as the already crowned targ king who people love instead of her is what breaks her
>>222184477MY FVARKING KING
>>222185595It's hilarious that so many women were repping lyanna as this proud badass feminist girl who won against knights in a tourney and then left her fiance cause she's such a liberated badass who was gonna forge her own destiny, and it turns out that no, she was just a baby maker, and traded a husband to be a sidepiece and to die in pregnancy. Her entire existence amounted to her barefoot and pregnant in a tower for rhaegar to birth a bastard, not even a trueborn son. All of her own volition.
>>222188178can't even imagine giving a shit about her t b h but then there's no way I'd invest in the subject like this either
>>222188146>he even tries to do that shit on 4chankek, good one.
>>222188178Well when you put it that way she really is a folk hero for western women. Short sighted emotional decisions leading to complete personal destruction, but they get a low status baby out of the deal. That’s the quintessential romance story of the 21st century. That and a Minotaur strangling you.
>>222184477>I will take my brother's peach to the grave>Stannis went to his marriage bed like a soldier marching into battle uh fellow stannisters?
>>222188213Trying a bit too hard there, anon.
>>222188200most dont. She was barely a character before the play. The play just makes it funny, especially over the years with how many women fronted her as a feminist icon.>>222188220kek, true
>>222188229It's okay, Renly looks more like a woman than Selyse.
>>222188260What? I thought it was funny.
>>222185337>sack fishing villages with a population of 50>or LannisportHmm...
>>222188272stannisbros.... our king's brother is better looking, our king's wife is a hag and our king's daughter is a hideous freak
>>222188301I'm going to have to go with stealing Brandon of Yellowsnow village's malnourished goat.
i hope fatman never relases wind.
>BRAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP
he cant keep getting away with it...
>>222188386Oops forgot pic
I think this was the collective Cursed Child moment for this universe. With one single event everyone realizes Gurm is now a senile old fart. It's better that he never finishes the books.
looks like she'll be in the battle of Tumbleton
>>222188478yep its pretty bad. i think most people believed until now that hes still a good writer just lazy/have some writer's block... but now... its not good
>>222188451show is rapidly approaching to S2 tier slopwe are reaching terminal velocity
>>222188587i think its actually more similar to late stage got now. s2 was bad and boring as fuck. s3 is bad but entertaining. alicent goes to harrenhal to assasinate aemond is like jon snow and the boys go to get a white walker. well and then you have s2 tier stuff with the alicent+rhae scenes
>>222188504How will that go I wonder
>>222188012How do you secretly dig a long tunnel like this under a city anyway? There would be so much excavated material to secretly transport away with wagons.>inb4 jewish tunnelsTywin might be lord of the Westerlands and Hand of the King, but he's not *that* powerful.
Fuck politics, I'm putting on a helm with a elaborate crest and tourneymaxxing.
>>222188661What if it was always there, to give the Hand some way to discreetly blow off steam after a long day of work? Maybe Tywin just decorated it.
>>222188701
Sex with Alysanne Blackwood
>>222188775Back when the show was good
What the fuck is her problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJPRYaHgUncAshara Dayne ? Sexually liberated
>>222188848fuck this gay ass play
Oscar is the most based Tully.
i could have saved alicent
>>222188848The real GRRM would never write something this atrocious for the Maiden of the Morning
bear poppa ...
>>222185520Of course.
>>222188896From what? She's a whore and used goods.
Why does GRRM hate the Brackens?
>>222188795Ugly.
^ Faggot
>>222188504I’m so fucking tired of social media posts like this…
>>222188795kek
>>222188795>>222189364she can arrow my heart iycwiapd
Got some nice pics of her, next thread it is.
>>222188848almost 80 and too weak and cowardly to say no to this sex positive gay stuff. prime grum would have never, it would have been underage, inces and rape
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