How do they plan on doing this in the remake?
>>222288346They're not. The French frog scum is going to rewrite the whole story so Zendaya ends up as the Goddess Emperor.
>>222288346Qrd on the whole worm thing?
>>222288346Who cares? Dunc is terrible.
>>222288396Ugh. Believable, too.
>>222288415>I TURNED MYSELF INTO AN IMMORTAL SANDWORM, HWI>I'M GOD-EMPEROR LETOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>222288346HAHAHAHAHAH WTF IS THAT SHIT???? LOOKS DUMB AS FUCK
>>222288346Villehack already said he doesn't have the balls to adapt what comes after Timmy Shamalamadingdong blinds himself
Mulchtown | Adult Swim https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LYarkE3Msig Too much wormsign.
>>222288346probably the laziest copout which is having him turn into a duneworm
>>222288419>t. Terminally retarded zoomer.
>>222288793The books are good, dunc is terrible.
>>222288793DUNC is terribleDune is kino
>>222288415Leto II saw that the only way to save the human race from itself is to become an abomination that merged with sand trout (larval sandworms) giving him super powers and virtual immortality. He spends thousands of years acting as a merciless tyrant stomping humanity down into his enforced peace and tranquility while being the ONLY source of spice left in the universe so everyone has to kiss his ass and bow to him. This is all a keikaku to develop and evolutionary counter force in humanity that would give them a psychic reflex to lynch anyone offering them Safety and security in exchange for their personal agency. This forces the Guild to work with IX to create a way to travel through space without needing a navigator, and without making an AI. This breaks the spice monopoly on space travel. IX also begins working on technology that can shield things from prescience. The Tielaxu invent a way to produce artificial spice, breaking the monopoly of arrakis. All the time leto has taken over the sisterhoods breeding program to create an Atreides that was prescient enough to be invisible to others, but not being prescient enough to lock humanity into a singular future (like paul had done). Ultimately his goal was to create a human race capable of killing its own God that would scatter so far and wide that it ensures humanity would be extinction-proof.
Somehow the book 4 turns the series into a based dark comedy. Wonder why the writer completely forgot that tone in next two dog shit books.
>>222288479In the book Leto II makes armor from snadworm babies and becomes virtually invincible and runs around like Juggernaut in Marvel fucking shit up for a while.
made this the other day
I want Dune Part 3 to make a billion dollars because then they WILL be making the rest of the books into films, even if Villeneuve leaves, and we will inevitably get to God Emperor. I want to see them try to make a movie where a giant CGI worm man lectures Jason Momoa about philosophy for 3 hours.
>>222288346>How do they plan on doing this in the remake?Is the last film gonna cover worm god? I thought I saw people saying the last Dunc movie should end before the events of the worm god book
>>222290510The first two films were an adaptation of Dune. The third film covers the second book, Dune: Messiah. Children of Dune is the third book. Worm-man shows up in the 4th book, God Emperor of Dune.
>>222290299The God-Emperor's always stood out to me as the best member of House Atreides and very possibly the best character in Dune, anon. Good job.
>>222290278wrong
>>222288346How does his face get larger?
>>222291495because that was just cover art. In the boo his face and hands are the same size they always were, an were the last vestige of his humanity. At the end of the book he's dying next to the river, and the sand trout have been tearing away from his body, and Duncan sees what is left of his human body inside of the worm and its a horror show.
>>222288346They're not going that far.
>>222288346HEY DUNCAN, CHECK IT OUT!I DID SOME SPICE TO ME BODY, AND NOW IT’S ALSO A WORM BODY!I GOT A WORM BODY, DUNCAN!
>>222288346Exactly as pictured. They’re going to dress the God Emperor’s actor in a silver GORE‑TEX® suit with a long-ass tail and just have him shuffling around upright, and they’ll use no green screen at all, just forced perspective even when it’s completely impractical and looks goofy as shit. And it will be unparalleled kino. He and everyone who’s ever on-screen with him will be nominated for every acting award in existence just for making it through the scenes with straight faces.
>>222291584>I’M SHAI-HULETO!LMAO
>>222291646Lel
>>222288346they won't.the adaptation ends with the third movie
>>222288346Orson Welles and Marlon Brando are both dead, no one left can pull off the part
>>222289104the tone of each book is radically different
>>222289104Jews
>>222288346If I had to guess: Denis is going to end DUNC 3 with no real chance of a sequel.
>>222288346A more important question is whether Anya is going to do the naked gymnastics scene.
>>222290711I liked Miles Teg best
>Navigator Edrik and his faction have commissioned Waff, the imperfectly awakened ghola rescued by the Guild from the Bene Gesserit attack on Bandalong, to create "advanced" sandworms able to produce the melange they so desperately require. He accomplishes this by altering the DNA of the sandtrout stage and creating an aquatic form of the worms, which are then released into the oceans of Buzzell. Adapting to their new environment, these "seaworms" quickly flourish, producing a highly concentrated form of spice, dubbed "ultraspice".
>>222288346They do an animated movie and contract Fromsoft's team>>222288793>millennial unc still brainwashed by SicarioSame type of faggot to praise this year's Wuthering Heights
>>222288346>How do they plan on doing thisthey won't even make it, they'll get JJ abrams to do a prequel instead
>>222288954This actually sounds very kino. Been thinking more and more about how spot on Herbert was about so much. We need and will probably have a butlerian jihad, for example.
>>222288505Children of Dune is not a particularly difficult adaptation. God Emperor however is a very difficult adaptation given how meta Leto's whole plan is.Heretics/Chapterhouse are more straightforward but still goes in some very weird places narratively
>>222288954It's always been my personal headcannon that Leto got played and didn't ensure mankinds continued survival but rather that of the worms.Leto says that humanity will stagnate without action but Ix, the bene telixiu and the bene geserit at the start of Dune are all still growing and inventing new things if slowly. Eventually someone would have found a way to break the spices monopoly and even if they didn't slow boat generational ships would have allowed humanity to continue expanding.Eventually, however, someone would have done what Paul threatened to do at the end of Dune and kill all the worms. One of the after effects of Leto's intervention is to transplant the worms to other planets ensuring that the worms will continue after Arrakis dies.
>>222294569NTA but>brontëslop
These Dune books are starting to sound sillier and sillier
>>222290367A movie like that either does over a billion or bankrupts everyone involved, no in-between
>>222288346Like this.
>>222294764>they'll get JJ abrams to do a prequelTo be fair he's the director that Brian's novels deserve.
>>222295951I've never understood why people read past the first. The first book is outstanding but each subsequent book is worse and worse. Messiah, which is the second book, has the terrible bit where Paul and Stilgar are talking about all the people his jihad has killed and he tries putting it in historical context by saying he's killed more than Mao, Stalin or Genghis Khan. This always sat really poorly with me because Dune is set 10,000 years in the future. You're telling me in the next 10k years NO ONE comes along with more kills than Mao? The worst tyrants the universe had seen are all people who have already existed in OUR time?Then there is Children of Dune, holy fucking shit is the plot to kill those kids so unneccesarily convuluted and stupid. Poison their food? Shoot down the ship they're in? Nah, I'll train these tigers to kill them.
>>222296677>dropping dune just before it gets good again
>>222294981That's an interesting interpretation and really, it's just the endless political machinations of the imperium that needed to be thoroughly btfo forever, literally forever so that it could never come back. Technological and cultural stasis and the confinement of sandworms to Arrakis is solely so the political tripod of CHOAM-House Corrino-The Spacing Guild can endlessly profit off of the spice without any viable alternative.
>>222296715>bro you've just gotta watch the first season of 30 episodes that are garbage to appreciate the second season when it starts getting good againnah I'll just pass
>>222294981Nope, because before Paul and Leto, the world the setting was trapped in a downward spiral of stagnation because all the prescient people in the universe were navigators who always sought the safest route between two points. Doing this over and over and over and over again froze the world into a stasis where the status quo would be maintained.
>>222290367>>222288346>it looks like a giant worm>you like psychicly bond with it>into a black void dreamscape world and you have the human actorDONE. And the actor doesnt' have to suit up or anything and can just act as a human actor.
>>222289104I think he ran out of juice and had no idea where to go with the story (Or least how to end it)
>>222296734I read Messiah for the scene of teenage Alia all sweaty and puffed up doing acrobatics while fully naked. And Children for tha scene where 10 years old Leto gives his twin sister to some 25 year old Corrino and tells him to breed the fuck out of her, while the Corrino boy get Benege'd by Jessica.
>>222288505It's not like he even can anymore since he broke the timeline by not having Alia be the one to kill the Baron. Chani is likely to abort her babies and kill Paul herself.
>>222288396>Wormzaya
>>222296677I think Herbert was using examples the reader might know. The idea with 'get da tiger to kill dem' is just to show how convoluted the plans need to be to have any chance at working. Anything direct will definitely be accounted for and stopped. DUNC is more like 20,000 years into the future desu. They are in their year 10,000 AG, with the calendar starting 10,000 years from now. It's the year 22,000 AD.
>>222288954didn't he see some kind of exterior AI which is prescience immune?
>>222289104>>222296774Two years before God Emperor was published Beverly, his second wife, was diagnosed with lung cancer and she was undergoing treatment for it while he was working on Heretics and Chapterhouse. Ultimately, after a long, costly and emotionally draining treatment she succumbed and passed away, and with her gone, Filthy Frank didn't have a tard wrangler anymore.>>222296677>This always sat really poorly with meThat's fair. It's definitely one of his less inspired ideas wait till you get to the literal Space Jews in Book 6 oh lawd>Poison their food? Shoot down the ship they're in? Nah, I'll train these tigers to kill them.Wenscecia was a dipshit playing by the rules of the old Corrino imperium where these kind of convoluted theatrics are the only way to apply hard power, and ultimately even if the Corrinos had survived as a dynasty she would have still been a bumbling, grasping retard. I don't think you're meant to go "ah yes killer tigers brilliant" you're meant to have the exact reaction you're having. "Really? Fucking killer tigers? You people have FTL travel are you retarded??"
>>222288346It'll probably be some completely different stupid shit to appeal to the masses.
>>222296949He saw AI kill agents using prescience to hunt down people. Part of the invisible breed of human plan he wanted to make was to account to that, allowing humanity to survive tyrants like him that can see into the future and allow these people to attack said tyrant, and allow them to survive any weapon that uses prescience.
>>222296949That's some bullshit his son put in, based on alleged notes that no one has ever seen for the sequel to Chapterhouse Dune.
>>222296949Not that I recall. Leto intentionally didn't look any farther ahead than he needed to in order to make sure the golden path was established. He also mentions something about the danger of thinking machines and describes hunter-killers that go after entire planetary populations. But he also says that IX is no longer capable of making something like that when he tells the sisterhood not to worry too much about the ancient prohibitions.
>>222296677>Messiah, which is the second book, has the terrible bit where Paul and Stilgar are talking about all the people his jihad has killed and he tries putting it in historical context by saying he's killed more than Mao, Stalin or Genghis Khan. This always sat really poorly with me because Dune is set 10,000 years in the future. You're telling me in the next 10k years NO ONE comes along with more kills than Mao?That part was great>Pretty good for those days.
Does the series explain why everyone wants to fuck Jessica one way or another?
animatronic can't be that hard to do a worm body
>>222297242She's the penultimate step in a millenia-long eugenics project and she was trained specifically to activate men's neurons by the sisterhood.
>>222297242She’s the product of 90 generations of eugenic selection of course she’s hot af
>>222297242Any child she pops out has the potential to be god.
>>222297242She was effectively the dutchess of the house and considered incredibly beautiful. Duncan fucked anything that movie, and gurney fell in love with her after the emperor was dethroned and they were given the fiefdom of caladan. Piter is just a creepy guy who wants to fuck the royal concubine of his enemy.
>>222297242Her pussy game is unsurpassed in the galaxy until the Ixians made Hwi.
>>222290278Kek
>>222297654>Duncan fucked anything that movieHe fucked Villeneuve?!!
>>222288415it's an analogy for Trump - a demagogue fascist everyone fears who got his power with false promises and claims of divinity. Many people try to kill him but he persists.
>>222298049Leto is the opposite of Trump, you have American politics brainrot.
>>222298096Leto literally rants about liberals as closeted aristocrats at one point. And he's right
>>222298359Frank Herbert was all over the place politically. He was a shroom chewing hippie who hunted with Native Americans as a kid and was pro-environment but he also hated regulation and paying taxes, while also understanding that capitalism perverts all human institutions in the pursuit of profit alienates the natural instinct and spirit of humanity so mutant pedophiles can assault children and get fat off the labor of the proles
>>222297665>Hwiwas that the Leto's waifu that promised him her full love only to then fuck Duncan? That part teared me up a bit, worm guy didn't deserve this level of cuckery. Imagine being horny for millennias with no way to even jerk off yourself and the only woman in your life impulsively fucks your right hand man
>>222288826Dune was a better 3 hours than DUNC's 6 hours. Somehow equally paced and confusing.
>>222288396
Bro left behind his diaries with an inscription above them that said;>You, the first person to encounter my chronicles for at least four thousand years, beware.>Do not feel honored by your primacy in reading the revelations of my Ixian storehouse. You will find much pain in it.>Other than the few glimpses required to assure me that the Golden Path continued, I never wanted to peer beyond those four millennia.>Therefore, I am not sure what the events in my journals may signify to your times. I only know that my journals have suffered oblivion and that the events which I recount have undoubtedly been submitted to historical distortion for eons.>I assure you that the ability to view our futures can become a bore. Even to be thought of as a god, as I certainly was, can become ultimately boring.>It has occurred to me more than once that holy boredom is good and sufficient reason for the invention of free will
>>222288954>He rather do all of this that just use a computersBoomers were something else.
>>222298578A core part of Leto II's plan is the Ixians developing No-Ships that are both shielded from prescience and equipped with navigational computers so the Guild's monopoly on space travel is broken. Leto doesn't adhere to the restrictions of Butlerian Jihad because his humanity will be strong enough to not let themselves be enslaved by machines
You can prompt it however you like. Villeneuve would do the same.
>>222288954Holy based
>>222298536>"Heh, I have no need for f*male companionship or, ugh, sexual intercourse. In this moment I am euphoric, not because of any of the phony religions that I have purposefully engineered for the proles to consume, but because I am enlightened by the Golden Path">*proceeds to simp for the a gender-bent clone of his frenemy*Many such cases!
>>222298578>use computers>@grok, don't kill me>they kill youDo zoomers really...
>>222296677If you poison or shoot the children then all the fremen will go apeshit for revenge. If space tigers eat them they just disappear and nobody takes the blame.
so he turned into a giant worm and became Godthen he meltedBravo Nolan
>>222288415
>>222298536Unironically everyone was a cuck. Duncan got a round of literal pity sex because they literally built Hwi for it and then he spent the rest of the story seething that she went right back to Leto and died with him. He legitimately never would've had a chance if Leto had a dick, but that was literally part of the plan.
>>222294981Interesting take, but Leto was right.Without his idea and the speical genetics of prescient-cloaking the prescient seeking hunter-seekers that the IX develop would kill off all of humanity
>>222298726>*proceeds to simp for the a gender-bent clone of his frenemy*To be fair, Malky was based as fuck
>>222300081was that all the point of her character? Just to make them both mad? After the cuckery her plot didn't move anywhere
>>222297563She can also administer vaginal pulsing
>>222298359Damn the Romans!
>>222288346Forced perspective shots
>>222298726>Immediately throws a sperg fit at the sight of female Duncan
>>222298726They scientifically designed the ultimate waifu
I love how emotional Duncan is in God Emperor.In my head canon, the Fishspeakers are 12 ft tall, and Duncan is issued a Lord Humongous outfit (without the mask) to lead them as their commander. Every time he says "I'm not your stud!" I read it as "I'm not your Spunkin!"When Moneo tells him that "he's just an older model", I imagine he goes off and thinks "everyone is just dunkin' on me... is that why they call me Duncan?! Waaaaah!!"And when he fucks Hwi, him shouting "Love! Love! Love!" gets me everytime.
>>222300614Basically. She was a weapon. Malky was a weapon too. Both of them were created to be endearing to Leto to give the Ixians an in. Hwi was made to be so heartmeltingly caring and empathetic that she'd get under his skin, while Malky was designed to be so dangerously based that Leto couldn't help but enjoy his banter. Hwi's pure heartedness was the more effective because it could affect Duncan too and drive a wedge between him and Leto.
>Hwi
>hwi>Ixians>duncan wyoming kansasI think Frank RR Hubert isn't the mastermind I thought he was
>>222301659There's a lot of stupid stuff in Dune's plot, but the book is so fucking badass I cam totally let it all pass
>>222301659Don't forget SPACE JEWS
>>222301605Gentle, sweet, delectable Hwi
>>222288346I TURNED MYSELF INTO A WORM, MORTY! WORMYRICKKKKK
>>222288793>>222288814>>222288826neither the books or movies are good no, I haven't read or seen them
>>222298484Meds.
>>222301659The planet IX got its name because it was the 9th planet in the system, but over the millennia the drift of language meant that people forgot that the planets proper designation and Planet-IX gets truncated to Ix. The sisterhood is the only group of people with long enough memories to now that. Which is shown in the series itself as Arrakis and Calidan both have their names change. Arrakis becomes Rakis after Leto II's death it is reclaimed by the desert. Calidan becomes Dan. Geidi Prime becomes Gammu.
>>222301729how did he get away with it?
>>222301808What, you're just gonna take Tolkien's word for it instead of thinking for yourself?
>>222288346testing
>>222302105This is not the test thread
>>222288346Can Leto II forma gusano beat your favorite character?
>>222301808Dune books mog LotR books, but LotR movies mog Dune movies hard.
>>222301808based
>>222301808>asking the opinion of the fun hating tolkienRetard.
>>222288415>I turned myself into a big worm because... I just HAD to OK!?That's literally it.I think it gives him immortality or something idk he's kind of a dweeb
>>222302273Also his literal ONLY weakness is water, so of course he decides to build his main base right next to a bridge over a large river. The predictable happens and he falls off the bridge and gets kwab'd. Just imagine a typical pasty nerd reeing as he flails and drowns in a river as everyone watches and laughs at him
>>222302300i bet you don't need to imagine it
That parody Billy and Mandy did of Dune was hella accurate
>>222302300The bridge wasn't near the citadel or the festival city, it was on the way between both of them. Leto II always knew it would be the place he died. In Children of dune he hides in the same cave and it had a fremen legend about a Djinn being trapped in the cave and how it would offer a wish to whoever found it.
>>222288396Shut it Chud.
>>222302300One of the Bad Ends that Leto II feared was dying away from water. The Mk. II sandtrout and worms were all part of his plan.
>>222288752This is some great shit.
>>222290299Kek. Nice.
>>222298484Sounds like a normal person
>>222294417But what of good Glup Shitto?
>>222294417That's Brian Herbert and KJA's dogshit sub-par fan fiction.
>>222288346I wanna see that majordomo shitting his pants every moment of his life wondering if/when daddy worm's gonna judo slam him into paste. Critical casting decision
>>222288954plot contrivance the book>uhhhm achtually literally every single person in the universe would hate leto with burning passion because uhhhhhmm their lives are boring I guess?dune fell off way before frank's son took over, it actually happened right after the very first book
>>222302241>dune>funIt's the most basic bitch white boy orientalist "well ackchually" fantasy with a bunch of basic ideas wrapped up in mis-transliterated arabic that only gets other basic bitch white boy pseudo-orientalists hard.Tolkein made a whole world and then told a story inside it. Herbert came up with the story he wanted to tell and then broke out all his bullshit buck rogers quality handwavy nonsense to support it, the universe is goofy and indulgent
>that part of God Emperor where a bunch of facedancers turn into Duncans and try to attack while fishspeakers in defence undress the real Duncan so he has to run around butt naked while worm emperor is crushing everything on his skateboard thingy he uses to move aroundholy kek, I never laughed so hard when reading a book
>>222303242its the spice dummy
>>222303326Isn't LOTR just countryside england, the swiss alps and the fields of WWI/shitholes like Birmingham?The midgets I assume are welsh
>>222303326>basic bitch white boy orientalistShut the fuck up jeet
>>222298049you lost tranny
>>222303326>the virgin tolkien>copied everything from folklore and mythology>people don't bother with his boring stuff and will rather copy other derivative works like D&D>the chad herbert>as today everybody and their granma copy his ideas for their SF settingsDune is more fun period.
>>222303242Messiah's whole "Congratulations, you poor bastard, you've won it all." story works fine.
>>222303617>people don't bother with his boring stuffAre you high? 90% of the fantasy genre is either a tolkien rip off, or directly reacting to tolkien. For fuck's sake DnD is heavily influenced by the lord of the rings. Not everything is a boring dipshit console war.
>>222303242But the book even says most people are fine with it. It's the rebels he looks out for as his ideal lil humans. The ones who push against the bars or even see them there.
>did you just question my sexuality moneo you little bitch ill have you know i remember fucking every one of my grandmothers im not mad ur mad but watch out tho i think my worm body might kill you involuntarily whoops sorry moneo any last requests haha sike
>>222303707>negative reading comprehensionNo wonder why you don't like Dune.
>>222303617>>222303562loltolkein wrote a masterful love letter to the culture, beliefs, and history of northern europe that melds classical symbolism with early 20th century anxiety about mass industrialization and the loss of a noble culture. It's gnosis over western values and mythology.>ew gross he made references to my cultureherbert went to north africa once and then started fantasizing about the hearty salt-of-the-earth brownoids could be used by super-napoleon to destroy society. Because they have really cool water management systems and live in caves they are somehow a sleeper force capable of subverting the most advanced and concentrated military power in the universe, being oriental makes then an unknowable unstoppable force> :D:D:D:D omg so real just like afghanistanshalom, fellow west destroyer
>>222303834>he could make his eyes glaze over voluntarily the whole time, just to fuck with the guy
>>222303617okay, list three things that are commonly copied from dune, that dune was the first to use
>>222304171Navigators, Bene-gesserit/psychic/mystic warriors, and, uh, Jackie Chan.
>>222303937Lord of the Rings is just Tolkien coping and trying to provide meaning to his friends getting blown up in trenches during the Somme
>>222304233>tell me you have read more 40K novels than anything else without saying itNavigators, maybe.Not saying Dune is shit, but it is a rickety wireframe covered by paper mache when compared to the marble statue that is LotR. Dune is fun but is just buck rodgers playing it extra super duper serious
>>222303242He actively made people miserable
>>222304429Nigger please, you should be aware the Jedy and virgin Bene Gesserit.>40K novelsNo but I've read a lot of European comics, you philistine. Guess WH40K is more your speed tho.>Dune is funThat's was my claim, glad we agree. gg no re
>>222288954What’s the Krizalic?
>>222288346denis is afraid to make space guild navigators.
>>222304547I just grep'd through all six volumes without finding that word.
Will Dunc 3 include the part in Messiah where Paul spies on his naked little sister? Frank Herbert totally wasn't a run of the mill perverted nerd who thought Lawrence of Arabia was peak fiction btw.
>>222304608Kralizec, sorry
>>222288346They're probably gonna have a black actress for the role because diversity n shiet
>>222297241Why would Paul only say 6 million when WW2 killed like 60 million?
>>222301808>guy who rips shit off for his boring ass story thinks dune is badkek
>>222288346>remakeWhen was there a film made of God Emperor to begin with?
>>222304689The Typhoon Struggle, the war at the end of the universe: Leto II is simultaneously the Typhoon, the Struggler, and the Enemy that strengthens humanity..
>>222301808Tolkien says>as an author of fantasy I’m prejudiced against my competitors >I don’t like it but my opinion is compromisedThen you think>See!!! Tolkien didn’t like it! He said so!!!
>>222305019it's a weird boomer thing to think he can't be fair to another author but it kind of sounds like he was a stuck-up asshole
>hew things the empty desaturated rooms faggot could adapt God EmperorLMAO
>>222304799He says more than 6 million and Herbert wrote 6 million to appease his jewish publishers
>>222288346I hate books that introduce a million made up words and names for shit you have to keep track of
I hate books in general and DUNC was one of the worst I stole from the public library. The characters behave like morons so the plot can happen. The universe makes no logical sense.The best thing about DUNC is that fucking titty game that was posted earlier and Frankly that titty game isn't very good.
>>222288346>Emperor speaks through some microphone installed inside his neck inside the sandworm so he is mostly seen off screen or as a giant worm off in the distance
>>222305923Besides faction names and unit names, there's barely anything regarding that.
>>222298540>>222302456
>>222288954
>>222291641>tfw
>>222294417Does this mean the seaworms steal dry land from the continents and hide it all under the ocean, turning that planet into an ocean planet?
>>222305828Same, could never get through clockwork orange or the hobbit
>>222288346They won't, is pretty clear the direction they are taking with this already confirmed trilogy, they will make Alia the chosen one and skip the whole Leto and Ghanima parts.
>>222288415Just watch the SyFy series, is pretty great, at least compared to the new movies and it will answer most of your question in just 6 hours I think.
>>222305828I don't mind it usually but it does feel very self indulgent
>>222306820>Just watch the SyFy series,Honestly the best adaptation I've seen.
>>222290278Gigakino
>>222296884You could just watch porn, you know
>>222307068Porn is seldom lit, framed, nor captured as well as non-porn, anon.
>>222304547Kralizec is Armageddon (or Armageddon's armageddon). Leto II call himself that because the whole point of his plan is to destroy humanity/civilization to let it rebuild itself into something that isn't the tripod with the landsraad.
>>222288346>VERY fast worm running at incredible hihg speed
>>222305828>made up words and namesThey're not made up words, he just used some arab, persian, and scandinavian words to make the setting feel exotic and weird.
>>222305828You should have a greater than 5th grade reading level.
>>222308450>harkonnen is just a random surname from the phone bookTruly the American Gene Wolfe.
>>222304926Thought it was the AIs?
>>222306388
>>222309528>Thought it was the AIs?Find that in the original six novels.
>>222288346With CGI
>>222302162No, he can't beat the Hulk.
>>222289612KEK
>>222288954>This is all a keikaku to develop and evolutionary counter force in humanity that would give them a psychic reflex to lynch anyone offering them Safety and security in exchange for their personal agency.that's not how evolution works at all though. evolution would do the literal opposite of this. but herbert was just another christfag after all. but then if the christian god is guiding human "evolution", then why is the whole golden path faggotry even necessary? whole thing is just incoherent and stupid
>>222289612>Leto II looks far into the future, seeing what horrors he must harden humanity against
>>222309605Who are Marty and Daniel?
>>222306440KEK
>>222310276>evolution would do the literal opposite of thisDo you know why cheetah are so fast? Because gazelles are fast. Do you now why gazelles are fast?Because cheetah are fast. Leto's whole plan was to become the ultimate predator of humanity to create evolutionary pressures in the same way. You should stop getting pissy over a book you haven't read, it makes you look silly.
>>222310335Certainly not AI. The only hint that Chapterhouse gives you about their identity is that they're MAYBE the leaders of the rogue face dancers from the scattering.
Recently I found out that Herbert was a turboweeb. Like writing his wife haikus and gifting her a kimono levels of weeb. And in hindsight that makes a lot of sense because the imperium is a lot like Edo period Japan.>one great house (clan) rules the land but has devolved power down in feudal structures where, even though it commands the overwhelming majority of power, its existence as the de facto and de jure power has to be carefully balanced in a complex network of negotiated settlements lest the other great houses (clans) unite and overthrow it>social mobility is completely frozen and culture is by collective agreement between the echelons of power kept deliberately stagnant>warfare itself has become highly ritualized and not really about effective and rational delivery of hard power to achieve political aims but rather pageantry and face>the feudal system also allows for a lot of groups that provide specialized services to the great houses that allow them to accumulate power for themselves, but all this power is focused on continuing the status quo by any means (on the surface at least)
>>222288954>somebody actually summarized it correctly
>>222310462Also if you go read the old dune encyclopedia (which wasn't written by frank, but I think he approved it), the butlerian jihad was never a war against terminators. There was a woman who was at a doctor that was run by an AI that terminated her pregnancy for reasons, and it was the snowball that kicked off the wholesale rejection of technology making decisions for men.
>>222310442Are you stupid, bro? Let me repeat myself within your framework: If Leto's golden path is the gazelle and hating oppression is speed, then his path is a SLOW gazelle that makes the cheetah SLOW. Do you understand now? You fucking dimwit?
>>222311888butlarian jihad is something better left mysteriousthere are plenty of reasons for people wanting to destroy thinking machines
>>222311888> the butlerian jihad was never a war against terminators.it was both>As the story begins, Xavier is repelling an attack on the planet by Omnius' army of cymeks. The cymeks are former humans whose brains have been implanted in preservation canisters, which in turn can be installed into a variety of fearsome mechanical bodies, to extend their lives indefinitely and make them nearly unstoppable. The original twenty cymeks (calling themselves the Titans) had conquered the complacent universe by exploiting humanity's reliance and dependency on machines, yet the Titans were later overthrown themselves by Omnius, an artificial intelligence of their design. Seeking to replace human chaos with machine order, Omnius thus ignited the war between machine and humanity. Vorian Atreides is the son and subordinate of the leading cymek Titan Agamemnon>Serena is captured by the Titan Barbarossa and put under the watch of Erasmus, an independent robot who seeks to understand humans completely so that the thinking machines may be truly superior. His methods of study often entail human vivisection and torture in his slave pens. Erasmus takes a liking to Serena, as does the young Vorian. Serena realizes she is pregnant with Xavier's child and later gives birth to a baby boy whom she names Manion (after her father). Erasmus finds this distraction inconvenient, and subsequently removes Serena's uterus and kills her young son in front of her.>This single event incites the entire Jihad, and young Manion is soon labelled the first martyr, Manion the Innocent. Vorian, learning about the murder and realizing the lie he lives as a machine trustee, betrays his machine masters and flees with Serena. They are joined by another trustee, Iblis Ginjo, a slave leader who masterminds the rebellion on Synchronized Earth.
>>222312735Kinda unfolding right now tbqh
>>222312807No anon, that is all bullshit faggotry invented by Brian Herbert and KJA that wrote the cash grab prequels to build up hype for dune 7 (which got split into 2 books, hunters and sandworms of dune, genuinely 2 of the worst novels ever written). I was talking specifically about the Dune Encyclopedia, which was an old single volume book that tried to act as an index and flesh out some things mentioned in the book but never explained. It wasn't written by frank, but he gave them a few ideas he had kicked around in his head but never fleshed out.https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Jehanne_ButlerSeriously, KJA may be the worst author ever and his existence damages literature as a medium I cannot properly express just how much I hate that guy.
>>222313003>destroy the thinking machines because they're turning the newer generation of users retardedYou can't make it more relevant.
>>222313003there are a lot of legitimate ethical concerns about the technology, everything from how it is made to how it is usedi'm a researcher. some of the techniques are very interesting and i see real potential for doing good in in the world. unfortunately it seems like people are using the tech for everything but those good things. i am personally am a snailcat that refuses to adopt ai slop for many reasons.
>>222288954this is why leto 2 is based
>>222290367I don't even think children of dune is easily doable. It'd be like watching Spy Kids
>>222288346probably turn him BLACK and give him a giant worm benis.
>>222303364his name was IDAHO
>>222304840Children of Dune was a TV series. got to the part where Leto became half-worm/sandtrout.
>>222314120The miniseries did it well enough. You definitely couldn't do it in a movie without gutting the book and it would just be a remake of dune.
>>222294417the point was that the "golden path" pushed humanity to the limits to deal with the lack of spice, which Leto purposely caused. he represses. they evolve. and then when he dies, a rubberband effect happens and they spread out throughout the universe, avoiding extinction.why extinction? well, if frank's son's books can be trusted , it's because the Bulterian Jihad never ended. >inb5 banned for spoilerifical shit /lit/ things for ancient spacing /lit/.
i like it when the god emperor is overtaken by the worm and goes REEEEEEEEE
>>222314256Ageing the twins up was a good idea, you can't get decent 8 year old actors let alone two of them
>>222314298>extinctionIt’s been a long ass time since I read any of the books, but Herbert’s books don’t contain any sentient aliens, do they? I always felt that he was referring to aliens from outside the known galaxy threatening mankind as being an extinction level threat. That’s also part of the reason why during the events of Dune houses still maintain nuclear weapons.
>>222296677It's like the retardation in Attack on Titan. The dumbass MC doesn't even know how to roll a boulder when it's obviously faster and less labor intensive, choosing instead to carry it on her shoulders.
>>222315412The great houses keep their nukes because it maintains the power structure. One house could take out another house with their nukes, but they would be immediately retaliated upon with everyone elses nukes. It also keeps the emperor in check because together they could glass the shit out of the throne world. In the context of the books the major extinction they're worried about is from cultural stagnation and implosion as much as any external threat. When the spice only came from Arrakis and the entire universe was addicted to it, then that meant you have one fail point that would bring everything down. Or a situation where an actual monster could get on the throne and ruin things that way (Like the baron angling fey'd rautha for the throne, which would place him as the power behind the throne). Also the guild using spice and prescience to navigate safe passages through space was locking the universe into one where the "safe" options were almost enforced. The human animal and society was just going to get even more fat and indolent and dependent on sucking at the teat of the current system, the system had no feedback and would just spiral into self destruction.
>>222291935>Orson Welles and Marlon Brando are both dead, no one left can pull off the part(ps: you're right)
God Emperor is not a good novel. It's a terrible novel. Everything God Emperor of Dune blandly reads in soliloquy to the reader was already conveyed much more evocatively in Dune's subtext. It was basically over for Herbert when he decided lecturous hand holding explanation of Dune was what the Children needed to be. >>222294981That doesn't work because it flies in the obvious MESSAGE MESSAGE MESSAGE the books are screeching. Dune went from a timeless metaphor for how these sorts of things happen to Utopian fiction pretending it will never happen again.
>>222296677>You're telling me in the next 10k years NO ONE comes along with more kills than Mao? The worst tyrants the universe had seen are all people who have already existed in OUR time?No anon. Paul's point was that those people were once considered the greatest monsters of humanity, and now they're relegated to a footnote in a footnote of deep history that paul is only aware of because he has unlocked his racial memory. Paul is basically resigned to the fact that he isn't going to be treated as anything but the monster of monsters by history. He is also vexed because he KNOWS there is a way out for the human race that would force him to become even more monstrous. Paul was an Atreides, and raised with the family values where they bought loyalty through virtue. He avenges his father and the consequences is making the name the equivalent of "Mega-Hitler" for most of the universe going forward. Of course Paul shies away from all of this, and he tried to escape his fate, which pretty much ensured Leto II had to exist to take up the task. He's more willing to become that abomination because he's not exactly human to begin with since he was born with his racial memories unlocked just like Alia. The only thing that saves Leto and Ghanima is that Ghanima creates false memories of leto's death which creates an anchor when her memory is restored. Leto gets force fed heroic doses of spice until he goes through complete ego death, goes so far back into his past memories until he finds an ancestor that was a pharaonic god-king of egypt that gave leto the idea of becoming a godhead of his own personalities by teaming up with Harum.
>>222315552It's worth having a slop art generator take a shot at. I shall see what I can do.
>>222310276damn and here I thought that everything about Dune was extremely realistic
>>222310276Take the summary with a grain of salt.Leto was also breeding people like domesticated animals.
>>222288954Basically needed thousands of years to make humanity stop chasing convenience and sacrificing their liberty for it. Imagine.
>>222315412>Herbert’s books don’t contain any sentient aliens, do they?No intelligent alien life.But in the Dune Encyclopedia there were some ruins that were discovered on a random fuckass planet long after Leto's death that were theorised to be remnants of an extinct alien civilisation. But after Leto's journals were found on Arrakis it was determined that the ruins were actually an abandoned laboratory that Leto had secretly constructed at some point without the Spacing Guild's knowledge or any record of the place being kept or known by anyone. Although no one could figure out why Leto had bothered to have the place built, or why he kept it secret.
>>222317075Also needed to teach the sisterhood that they needed to take an active role in leadership instead of being the man behind the man behind the throne.
>>222317803Brian's faggotry is not canon
>>222317977Dune Encylopedia isn't Brian. It was written when Frank was still alive. It is also mentioned that the sand worms aren't native to arrakis because the planet once had a working water cycle.
Dune is shit, even A Song of Ice and Fire is better
>>222318031>It is also mentioned that the sand worms aren't native to arrakis because the planet once had a working water cycle.That's in the books in multiple places
>>222318259Yeah, thats what I meant.
>>222288415>Bene Gesserit bow to Worm>In contact with past generations>Possess psychic-like abilities>Control Arrakis with an iron but fair fist>Own castles & banks across the Galaxy/>Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line>Will bankroll the first cities in the scattering(Wormville will be be the first city)>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Tleilax, uses it to make sex girls for himself.>First designer baby was his father.>Both he and his sister said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence has only existed in the Mentat's darkest dreams.>Ancient Fremen scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Arrakis and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them>He owns secret buildings across the galaxy with hidden Encyclopaedias.>You likely will exist inside the worms mental model of self.>The worm is in regular communication with the prophet Paul Atredies, Leto the first, Baron Harkonen and Gengis Khan.>He learned fluent French in under a week>Great Houses entrust their spice reserves with the worm.>The worm is about three hundred and fifty decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society.>In reality, the worm is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don't know his ultimate plan yet. Just that the golden path and the scattering are in our best interest.
>>222319039Top zozzle
>>222319039Worm has no worm
>>222314231Yes but that got nowhere near The God Emperor Tyrant Leto II stage, so calling it a remake is disingenous.Also Alec Newman was the weakest Paul but a fantastic Muad'Dib and Prophet.
>>222319252>Alec Newman was the weakest Paul but a fantastic Muad'Dib and Prophet.He triggered my autism more than anything else in the dune miniseries. Paul is supposed to be a 15 year old twink, and they cast discount stephen dwarf trying hard not to look like he's in his mid 30's with a booze and narcotics problem. Also the hilarious production fuckups. Like how no one thought to make sure that the sand they were using on set would match the color of the sand in the mattes and backdrops. Children of dune is miles ahead of it, and you're right he works great for an older jaded paul who's exhausted because the universe just refuses to let him die. The miniseries is also worth watching because it was one of the first big roles James McAvoy had, and its kind of adorable to see his babyface playing leto II. Also worth watching the behind-the-scenes stuff where he's getting interviewed and you get the feeling that he's a fan of the source material and is genuinely excited to be there.
>>222319433>spicy meringuelel
worm Cock
>>222288346Why would worm shit have all these superpowers anyway
>>222302092Yes.
>>222296677This. Messiah takes such a nosedive in quality that people seem to ignore and downplay. It convinced me most fans don't understand the first Dune to begin with. I physically struggle to finish Messiah and I couldn't stop reading Dune.
>>222302170>Dune books mog LotR booksNot even remotely, I recently reread both trilogies and most of Dune just sucks.
>>222296677>This always sat really poorly with me because Dune is set 10,000 years in the future. You're telling me in the next 10k years NO ONE comes along with more kills than Mao? The worst tyrants the universe had seen are all people who have already existed in OUR time?It's a symptom of a broader thing with Herbert that tried to be a preachy hippy and talk down to the reader.
>>222319416>one of the first big roles James McAvoy had, and its kind of adorable to see his babyface playing leto IIChildren was 2003, we could have had GEoD a few couple of years later but scifi channel decided to go full retard with reality tv and ancient alienslop instead. Fuck this gay Mandela earth.
>>222320041I don't think you could really adapt god emperor just because it has a weird format and POV, and if you changed that too much then you lose what makes it special.
>>222288954>merged with sand trout>while being the ONLY source of spice left in the universeWhat, did he eliminate all the other sand trout?
>>222321334When he began terraforming the planet it killed off the worms, trout, and sand plankton, so all that were left were the ones that merged with his body.
>The bloodline dies with Paul and Alia>Zendaya takes over the Fremen and they all go back to their sandboxes and shit suits>mid-credits psa on incels
