This is not historically accurate. Jesus died at the age of 33. This dude is 50 .Why can't hollywood do anything right?
>>222300190>Jesus didn't have long hair>Jesus wasn't tall>Jesus wasn't CatholicThey got a lot wrong with this show sadly because the stuff they got right is very right, but a little lump of leaven leavens the whole
>>222300190>>222300508god allowed moses to rape litlle kids in old testament btw
>>222300543He literally didn't and you'll burn in hell for denying Christ. Sit the fuck down.
>>222300190He looks 33 but many men's standards, especially men living in that part of the worldIt doesn't matter if an actor is the exact age they're depicting, as long as it works
>>222300508Jesus was Jewish. Celebrated every Jewish holiday. And was identified as a Rabbi.Catholicism wasn't created into Saul decided he wanted a vehicle to collapse Rome
>>222300190>Jesus died at the age of 33He got better
>>222300560he did you faggot
>>222300190>This is not historically accurate. Jesus died at the age of 33. This dude is 50Someone clearly didn't read Irenaeus.
>>222300190Jesus is a socal hippie
>>222300573Yasheua was an actual jew. Not the eastern euro paganLARPers that call themselves jewish.He was also as black as the ace of spades and just a particularly well liked holyman. Not the son of god or anything.
>>222300715So why aren't people in that region black today
>>222300715>>222300649>>222300560>>222300508
>>222300730Roman genocide, then arab conquest?
>>222300735This is such a moronic shill campaignYou guys know absolutely nothing about pre Christian paganism, societies, or the state of Rome at the timeChristians beat pagans, constantly, on the battlefield. Because they were weak? No, because they cooperated better. You idiots don't seriously want to go back to worshipping trees and zeus do you?
>>222300797You cannot be serious. There would still be blacks or traces of black dna. There would be endless artifacts showing blacks there.What you have instead are whites. There are still many whites there, they are mixed with the others, and the artifacts of the era show a white population.
>>222300816>You idiots don't seriously want to go back to worshipping trees and zeus do you?No, they want everyone to conform to their nihilism and to stop rocking the boat over the issue of getting mind raped by kike media and theater.
>>222300190Why isn't xhe a black non-binary person? That would be more in the holywood spirit.
>>222300508>Jesus wants tallwhat will manlets think of next
>>222300858>getting mind raped by kike media and theaterAmerica christians are easilly the biggest supporters of jews and israel.
>>222300953Just FYI, this person is a likely brown leftist who wants all whites and christians raped and murdered
All I want to know was Jesus white
>>222300953>He thinks the government puppets are actually Christian Besides, if the Bible already naturally led people to supporting Israel and Jews, then what's all this then? (Pic related)
>>222300993Yes, more or less. He was a levantine jew. Look up Cat Stevens. He was likely that pale or paler
>>222300848>artifacts of the era show a white populationNonsense. Jews did not create visual representations of humans because it violated their laws against idolatry. representations of people in art of the region they were not created by Jews but roman or greek invaders.
>>222300991Globally whites represent a very small fraction of christians. Hubs of christianity today are africa and south america.>>222301014Look at any data about support for israel. I don't give a shit what your based and redpilled infographics from /pol/ say, I care what people actually do.
>>222301131Data support from who?
>>222301052So what. Did THEY show the natives as negros? What even is your point?>>222301131The point is you are an anti Christian shill. Not because you believe in paganism. But because you want to attack whites and Christians. Probably a brown mohammadan.
>>222300848Anon, destroying the past, killing those who remember, and consuming and destroying local religions is what all conquering civilizations do.Think the pan adjacent representation of satan is anywhere in the bible? Hell no. That was a nonstop marketing campaign to demonize the most powerful and worshipped life and fertility god that region had.
>>222301185I'm not even a guy who posted the image you got so upset about. It's also pretty telling that you went out of your way to capitalize christians but not whites. Freudian slip perhaps?
>>222301233So what evidence of them being negros existYou can't just believe things because you want to. There should be actual evidence. If there were negros in the levant, there would still be negro DNA. There is still Briton DNA in England. Native American in America. etc. So where is it?>>222301248I capitalize those types of words at random.Anyways you are all the same. I notice you don't deny being a brown muzzie.
>>222300190>show produced by Mormons>has completely out of character scene where Jesus refuses to heal a crippled man when they ask him>has scene where he literally allows someone to be killed right in front of him and refuses to resurrect them>Judas portrayed as sympathetic and tragic and his betrayal something he had no actual control over that Jesus underhandedly directs to happen>Jesus portrayed as haing to rehearse his sermons and take inspiration from things around him for his parables>the Pharisees portrayed as well-intentioned but just misguided and stubborn rather than outright knowing who He is but rejecting Him anyway>Satan completely absent as a character, the temptation of Jesus in the wilderness completely absentthis show is more terrible than people give it credit for>>222300508Jesus did have long hair, historians 360'd back around to the original position again after realizing that the reason Jesus is depicted with short hair in the earliest artwork is because he is being depicted as a model Roman citizenJesus would likely have had long/medium hair but cut/arranged in a typical Judaic style for the time>Jesus wasn't tallhe was probably an average height>Jesus wasn't CatholicCatholic literally just means 'universal' or 'common.' The current modern day Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church are the only real direct descendant churches that can be traced back to the apostles and Peter in particular was the first Bishop of Rome (a position that became the Pope) so to say Jesus 'wasn't Catholic' is a weird statement; Jesus founded the Catholic Church. That's why the Creed says "I believe in one holy, catholic and apostolic church.'>>222300573No, Catholicism is what the early church became after the 7 ecumenical councils by the 3rd century. The early Christians were social pariahs for hundreds of years holding meetings in catacombs; the idea anyone knew it would take over Rome hundreds of years later and planned it is absurd
>>222301456Paintings older then rome that were shown by vladmir putin at a press conference. But for obvious reasons that press conference is impossible to find anywhere on the glowie controlled and jeeted google "search engine".
why isnt he black?
>>222300953Those are Evangelicals, who follow a heretical psyop pushed on dumber Christians by Zionists in the early 1900s called DispensationalismMost Christians do not believe in Dispensationalism, they believe that the Law of the Old Testament is fulfilled through the arrival of the Messiah Jesus Christ and that the old system of the Temple ended when he died on the cross and rose again, and that this was further cemented when the second Temple was destroyed. Christ is the new Spiritual Temple in this view, and the body of his followers who collectively and individually are the Spiritual Israel (the dwelling place of God's people which now includes non-Jews), rather than it being a physical temple in a physical IsraelWith Dispensationalism though, non-Jews are saved through Jesus, but Jews don't need to be saved in this way, they're simply chosen by being Jews live by their Law. Further, Dispensationalism believes Jews are more special than other people and everyone else should serve them, that Israel is still the holy land and that the temple has to be rebuilt (this is an affront and contradiction to the idea that Jesus is the new temple, as if everything He did doesn't matter or wasn't real). Dispensationalism was pushed through an annotated Bible called the Scofield Bible by Zionists out of Oxford as a psyop to replace the idea that Christ is the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy and that offers salvation to all people, not just Jews"Christian Zionists" are just fools who have been taken in by this evil idea that Jews don't need to be saved through Christ, and it's an insult to Christianity to equate their disgusting ideas with actual Christianity. Jesus and the Apostle Paul make it very clear that salvation is no longer through following Jewish law, but only by being saved through Christ's sacrifice, and this means Jews too - so the ones who reject Him - pretty much all of them, are NOT with God until they submit to Jesus
>>222302130>Apostle PaulDon't you mean Saul al-Tarsi, the pharisee?
>>222302663The name's DUNC now
>jewish parasites subverting and destroying americanooooooo we must stop them!>jewish parasites subverting and destroying ancient romeglory to the jewish god for destroying the european empire and destroying the european religion and replacing it with a jewish one!
>>222301867Jesus wasn't black he is a Galileean Jew who probably resembled a modern-day Levantine Jew or Palestinian.>>222300993this >>222301034>>222300953>>222301131Protestants of all denominations are literally schismatic heretics and are not really Christians. If you are not in full or even partial communion with Rome then you are not actually part of the church that Jesus and the apostles founded. It is no surprise that modern-day "Christians" outside of the Catholic and Apostolic church have spiralled off into all kinds of unscriptural beliefs like Zionism since they are literally not even real Christians in the first place.>Since, however, it would be very tedious, in such a volume as this, to reckon up the successions of all the Churches, we do put to confusion all those who, in whatever manner, whether by an evil self-pleasing, by vainglory, or by blindness and perverse opinion, assemble in unauthorized meetings; we do this, I say, by indicating that tradition derived from the apostles, of the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also by pointing out the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its pre-eminent authority, that is, the faithful everywhere, inasmuch as the apostolical tradition has been preserved continuously by those faithful men who exist everywhere. >Saint Irenaus, Against Heresies Book III, 180 ADThe whole point of the Reformation was literally to lead people away from the real Church and splinter the faithful off into all kinds of heresies, which is what has happened and is what was prophesied would happen by Jesus himself.
>>222300543Moses never existed and the entire book of Exodus is jew cope fanfiction
>>222303438>Martin Luther says indulgences are bad>Gets excommunicated over this>”Why would Protestants do this?”
>>222301680The average height 2000 years ago was manlet. Until ~100 years ago everyone was a manlet because of malnutrition. If you look at medieval beds they're all very short.
>>222300190When average life expectancy is 50, 30 year olds are going to look rough anon
>>222303438The “church” of rome are the original protestants.
>>222303406why do you not care about which religion is actually true and why do you think ancient European paganism is better than Christianity? Why do you think it's even worth preserving or that it even shouldn't have been destroyed?Christianity is very obviously true regardless of what you think about Jews whereas "European religion" (whatever you even mean by this nebulous term) pretty obviously isn't. Even if you are an atheist who thinks Christianity isn't true either you can still pretty clearly see that a Christian society is very obviously better than an ancient pagan style one.The truth is, nobody actually wants to go back to sacrificing animals in front of statues and drinking their blood and pretending they think lightning is Zeus or Odin throwing it from the clouds and wanting to preserve this and build society around it would just be terrible, it's just a LARP and you know it is. Literally just look at India to see what a modern-day superstitious polytheistic pagan society looks like.
>>222302663That proves my point. The Jews are expected to accept Jesus Christ as well.When he was Saul, as a Pharisee, he was roaming around getting Christians arrested and executed. After his experience at the road to Damascus, he was changed and directed by the Holy Spirit to serve Jesus Christ and bring salvation to Gentiles as well, which was something the Jews were deeply against. At this point he was incredibly critical of the Jewish people who rejected Jesus, saying that they "displease God" and are "contrary to all men".There is a continuity of the Old Testament in its true meaning into its fulfillment in the New Testament, but current day Judaism - Rabbinic Judaism, developed out of the post-temple religion developed by the Pharisees who displeased God and murdered Jesus (unfortunately for them, He is the Messiah and rose again), and the current form of Judaism is an illegitimate religion that isn't in continuity with the true meaning or legacy of the one true God who was planning to send His Son Jesus Christ (who current-day Jews, like the Pharisees, reject)
>>222301823Paintings of Jesus older than Rome? The fuck are you even talking about?
>>222303447>the entire book of Exodus is jew cope fanfictionMoses was a Levite, not of the tribe of Judah.Not a Jew, even in the classical sense, as opposed to jew, in the grabbler sense.
>>222303664>jews finally succeed in the violent takeover of rome and its religion>the empire collapses 100 years lateralso, the jewish religion is also obviously not true. anyone reading the old testament (the book jesus preached) could attest to that.
>>222303690what did jesus mean in matthew 15:25 when he said: “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”?
>>222303637>Orthodox ChurchThe leading bishops and patriarchs that represented the Orthodox Church at the Council of Florence literally, officially, unambigiously co-signed that they are still in communion with Rome and that the Bishop of Rome (the Pope) is the pre-eminent authority and even co-signed the filioque as a doctrine they were ok with but then Constantinople fell shortly after to the Ottomans who deliberately installed corrupt anti-Rome bishops and the Orthodox laity coped and seethed about the decision at the Council of Florence all the way until the present-day and all the Orthodox clergy have tried to memoryhole it and won't tell you about this or properly explain it unless you really interrogate them on it.This is why some Orthodox priests literally accept Roman Catholic baptisms as counting and say you don't need to be re-baptized. The idea that it was the Catholics who schismed away from le unchanged Orthodox Church(tm) is literally just cope; furthermore, all of the early Church Fathers (like the aforementioned St Irenaus) held the position that the Bishop of Rome was pre-eminent, the very same Church Fathers that the Orthodox love to appeal to and claim they are the inheritors of in terms of belief.Meanwhile, in reality, the modern Orthodox Church, especially the western version of it now, does not resemble the actual early church at all (unless you think the likes of Peter and Paul and Clement were performing 3 hour long Byzantine liturgies out of nowhere) and they have all kinds of weird beliefs tacked onto the doctrines, such as their obsession with asectic mysticism, hesychasm and borderline gnostic interpretations of what becoming holy means e.g. muh noetic realm, muh 'Nous' (literally just old greek for mind)>>222303492The real Church doing things wrong doesn't somehow mean it isn't the real one. When Mannessah was king of Israel and allowing idolatry did that suddenly mean it wasn't the kingdom that God had founded? Obviously not.
>>222303828Exactly what he said. But what you shills don't seem to understand is anglo-saxons are one of the tribes of Israel.
>>222300508We don’t know what Jesus looked like.
>>222303769You are so stupid. Why was Constantine at Constantinople and not Rome? Because the empire was collapsing. Christianity gave it several more centuries of life.
>>222300190>my fictional (jewish made) character isn't portrayed correctly by hollyjew!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>222304134Just out of curiosity, tranny, can you explain why jews are bad?
>>222303828Jesus was talking about in that region and at that time specifically, it was always supposed to be the case that the Jews would be preached to first and then the Gentiles afterwards - however, as I'm sure you actually know, that verse you cherry-picked is literally when Jesus is testing the Samaritan woman and rewards her for her faith.>21 Jesus left that place and went away to the district of Tyre and Sidon. 22 Just then a Canaanite woman from that region came out and started shouting, “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is tormented by a demon.” 23 But he did not answer her at all. And his disciples came and urged him, saying, “Send her away, for she keeps shouting after us.” 24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25 But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” 26 He answered, “It is not fair to take the children’s food and throw it to the dogs.” 27 She said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.” 28 Then Jesus answered her, “Woman, great is your faith! Let it be done for you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed instantly.>>222303769Jews were literally against the early Christians and were also persecuting them along with the Romans and Rome wasn't 'violently' taken over by the Christians, that's completely ahistorical. Conflating the Jews and the Christians in that time period is just nonsense especially given that the majority of them were not even Jewish and were converted from the Mediterranean and eastern regions. The pope at the time of Constantine converting to Christianity was not even Jewish (Sylvester I).> anyone reading the old testament (the book jesus preached) could attest to thatthere's lots of archaelogical evidence for the events of the old testament being real.
>>222304073>empire collapses 100 years later after jews were finally succesful at subverting it from the inside>a-actually i-it is because of the jews that the empire existed for only another 100 years!just as delusional as a troon
>>222304275>The evidence of subversion through Christianity: /pol/ told me so!
>>222304221>jesus compares non-jews to dogs who might eat the crumbs off the floor after the jews are done eating at the table>praise the jewish god and his jewish son!
>>222304221christianity is a jewish sect created out of a jewish schism on how to interpet the jewish holy book which is about jewish history and their jewish god, but somehow isnt a jewish religion?
>>222304275Dude what are you talking about. The empire WAS collapsing. That's why they moved the capital to Constantinople. It had been on the decline for over a century. It then revitalized in the east under Christianity. This is very basic stuff.
>>222304330Nevermind all the parables about how Jews were no longer special and disinvited from the secret club, which was now opened up to outsiders>>222304407The "jewish religion" is talmudism, idiot. Which is specifically what Jesus preached against.
>>222304221there's absolutely no archaeological evidence that the events of the old testament happened. even the names moses, abraham, isaac, and jacob don't appear in known iron age levantine inscriptions and only become common in the second temple period, proving these names only became well known much later.
>>222304499talmudism is the other side of the jewish schism, yes. both sides of the schism are jewish, for both concern the religion of the jewish god for the jewish people.
>>222304499Nevermind all the parables about how Jews were no longer special and disinvited from the secret club, which was now opened up to outsiderswhich was done by paul. jesus compares outsiders to dogs in his jewish holy book at matthew 15:25.
>>222304474so it was just all a big coincidence, huh moshe?
>>222300190>Jesus diedFucking spoiler that shit wtf
>>222304617Sorry this is so low IQ.Jesus, repeatedly, told the Jews they blew it and were no longer special, and the new chosen people were whoever followed His teachings, This could not be any clearer.>>222304653It's basic history you absolute imbecile. You don't know any history whatsoever. You're off hundreds of years.
>>222304701so explain matthew 25:21-28 without resorting to "b-but i-in other parts of the bible".
Penis status?
>>222304701In the same thread in which you're trying to claim that christianity totally isn't a jewish religion because they're totally letting goyim dogs worship their jewish god from their jewish holy book, you're sure kvetching like a jew a lot moshe.
>>222304750What do you want me to explain? What relevance does that passage have to what we are discussing? I am talking about things like Matthew 22:1-14>>222304819No, I'm not. Did you know words mean things? Calling everything "kvetching" and "jew", when it isn't, just weakens those words.Of course you're not a real antisemite so you don't care.
>>222304882>you're not even a real antisemite, like me: the jew worshipperyou sound schizophrenic
>>222304538>there's absolutely no archaeological evidence that the events of the old testament happenedyes there is and it fits the timeline given>historical records of a 'Shasu (people) of yhwh (land named after deity of people) in Canaan>evidence of an exodus from Egypt around the time of the Hyksos invasion attested to by Josephus>Roaming tribes of shepherd bandit 'habiru' causing trouble for Canaanites attested to by the Amarna letters>Mesha stele describing battle between Israelites and Moabites as mentioned in Bible but from Moabites pov>ancient kingdom of Israel archaelogical sites such as palace area found>jars of burned human and animal sacrifical remains in jars at Tophet site proving the Israelites fall into idolatry and baal worship really happened as described by the Bible>coins belonging to Israelite kings like Hezekiah discovered>Egyptian records of dealings with Israelite kings>clay seal in palace district belonging to 'Isaiah the Prophet' discovered, dated accurately to the time of king Hezekiah>various historical evidence that Nebuchadnezzar existed and did in fact conquer that region and take the Israelites into exile>Macabeean revolt is well recorded by historiansthere's more than that but you can look into it yourself. It's pretty obvious it's real.
>>222300508>>Jesus didn't have long hair>>Jesus wasn't tall>>Jesus wasn't CatholicGo look at the Shroud of Turin. His height was at least 5'9.Both Catholic, and Orthodox Churches started at the day of Pentecost. Jesus Himself Instituted the Eucharist at the last Supper. Read John 6 to learn why the Eucharist Is Important. John 6:53-56 NKJV[53] Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. [54] Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. [55] For My flesh is food indeed, and My blood is drink indeed. [56] He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. Corinthians 11:27-29 NKJV[27] Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. [29] For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.John 15:4-6 NKJV[4] Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. [5] “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. [6] If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. Jesus Is Lord.
I simply will not pretend I believe in Hebrew mythology because of an autistic online culture war.
>>222304882we're discussing why christianity is a jewish religion for jews which came forth out of a jewish schism and the verse wherein jesus calls non-jews dogs who might be allowed to eat the crumbs off the floor that fall off the table at which the jews are eating is relevant to that conversation. and your only reply is:>w-well a-at another verse...i don't care about other verses. explain to me why jesus compares non-jews to dogs.
>>222304918>jews exist therefore Bible is real
>>222304946the shroud of turin has been debunked so many times you might as well be a troon with how delusional you are
>>222304946>NKJVREPENT SODOMITE
>>222305020You cited the wrong verse then.Anyways the woman called herself a dog, Jesus was just responding in kind. Anyways why are you ignoring all the many parts that say it's open to everyone and the Jews aren't special?>>222305044You're a brown muslim, aren't you. Say something mean about mohammad.
>>222304918israel existed, nobody is contesting that, the jewish religion just did not exist at that time yet. there's not a single shred of proof for the jewish religion existing during ancient israel.
>>222305114i'm whiter than you, jew worshipper
>>222305083Don't be like this>>222305152I sincerely, sincerely doubt thatAnyways you are a terrible poster and a cancer on this site. Please stop writing the lowest effort drivel imaginable.
>>222305114I’ll rape Mohammad’s mouth. The Shroud of Turin is fraud.
>>222305114muhammed was an autistic pedophile kid diddler. now you say something mean about a moses or abraham to prove you're not jewish.
>>222304330>I hate Jews>God is Jewish>Therefore, God can't be realsurely you must have the ability to introspect and see how illogical this is. Yes, God is in fact a first century Jewish man and the one true religion came down from Jewish people originally - and? Is this supposed to phase me for some reason? I care about what is true, not what makes me feel good or lines up with my preconceived notions of political beliefs. You, on the other hand, are basically saying that God being Jewish is a dealbreaker and a non-starter, even if He is real (He is).>>222304407Yes, Christianity did in fact start with the Jews and come out of first century Judaism and God was in fact the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - and? Modern-day Judaism is not even remotely the same religion as what the first century Jews were doing, let alone what the ancient Israelites were doing (in fact, high Church Latin masses and the Orthodox liturgies are closer to what it would have been like in ancient Israel in Solomon's temple and closer to what they believed that what modern Jews are doing now anyway).Modern-day Judaism is a radically changed and diverged version rabbinic Judaism that formed after the destruction of the temple in 70AD as a cope for it happening and to counter Christianity; by the medieval period, it had completely changed into something else entirely with the Talmud superceding the Torah and retconning all of it and descending into Jewish mysticism and kabbalism and then later 'Reform Judaism' which is basically just 'atheism but keeping the special status of Jews being special people even though we don't think God or Abraham even exist.'
>>222305168>Don't be like thisThen don't promote satanic lies.
>>222305196prove the jewish religion is real by proving >>222304538pro tip: you can't
>>222305196There is no convincing skin worshipers. They are set on worshipping demons just to spite God's people.
>>222305168>a pearl clutching magapede christcuck calls someone else the cancer of 4channeck yourself
>>222305114jesus calls her a dog when he says: “It is not fair to take the children’s food and throw it to the dogs.”
>>2223052984chan isn't your edgelord reddit faggotry and wasn't for years. Leave.
>>222305129>there's not a single shred of proof for the jewish religion existing during ancient israelthe Mesha stele calls the Israelites the people of Yahweh and the Soleb Inscription in Egypt refers to the 'shasu of yhwh;' there is also an archaelogical fortress site in Tel Arad containing a sanctuary with the inscription 'house of Yahweh' and amulets in ancient Jerusalem with a blessing of Yahweh written on them.
>>222305291the only person who brought up the color of skin is this christcuck here >>222305114
>>222305343Why are you so dumb? He was testing her. She had to be ready to humble herself before Israel.
>>222305192Jews don't follow them, they follow the talmud. I already said something mean about that. >>222305228How is it a 'satanic lie'>>222305298I don't care about beliefs, I care about people being fucking boring and retarded which is what you/ he are doing. >>222305343Yes, I am obviously familiar with the passage. He does that after she calls herself a dog. He was just responding in kind. I literally just said this. How slow are you? Is this your only talking point?
>>222305381You reject Christ because you think that because your demon worshipng ancestors did it's "based".
>>222305393>How is it a 'satanic lie'You can't change word of God. Don't play coy. You are spreading satanic missinformation to lead people astray. BEGONE.
>>222305393>21 Jesus left that place and went away to the district of Tyre and Sidon. 22 Just then a Canaanite woman from that region came out and started shouting, “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is tormented by a demon.” 23 But he did not answer her at all. And his disciples came and urged him, saying, “Send her away, for she keeps shouting after us.” 24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25 But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” 26 He answered, “It is not fair to take the children’s food and throw it to the dogs.” 27 She said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.” 28 Then Jesus answered her, “Woman, great is your faith! Let it be done for you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed instantly.jesus calls her a dog, only after which she also starts calling herself one.
>>222305438i reject the jewish religion because it is a religion full of hatred towards non-jews, see: >>222305514
>>222305552You either stand with God and His people or with Satan. There is no compromise.
>>222305393>Jews don't follow Moses and Abrahamand on you go with the kvetching. again, neck yourself.
>>222305367there's absolutely no archaeological evidence that the events of the old testament happened. even the names moses, abraham, isaac, and jacob don't appear in known iron age levantine inscriptions and only become common in the second temple period, proving these names only became well known much later.
>>222304750>>222305020>>222305343Jesus calling Gentiles dogs only seems like an insult because it's like that in English but He is simply analogizing the situation with the imagery of people eating food at a table and that you wouldn't waste the food and throw it away to be eaten by others outside the table before it's time yet. The Gentiles being dogs in the analogy is not relevant, He is just drawing on the familiar imagery of the family all eating together in a house with the dogs there; the relevant part is that the meal at the table hasn't been finished yet - the meal at the table is His ministry through the regions of Galilee at that specific time to the Jews who are necessarily the first people that have to be preached to so that they know He really is the Jewish Messiah as prophesied; if He had started with non-Jews then it would be less convincing to the Jews that He actually was the Messiah.
>>222305614(((archaeological evidence)))
>>222305576>you're either on the side of the jews or otherwise you're evil!!!!!finally the true christcuck philosophy shows itself.
>>222305659>I will go to hell to spite jews
>>222305639i accept your admission of defeat.
>>222305675>you will go to my imaginary place of eternal torture if you dont worship the jews!!!!finally the true christcuck philosophy shows itself.
>>222300508jesus has to be tall cause a manlet carrying a cross looks dumb
>>222305485Shut up and settle down dude. Explain how the NKJV is bad. Which version do you consider acceptable?Anyways this whole holy roller larp shit is what I meant when I said 'don't do this'
>>222305393>>222305168I think anon is saying you are spreading satanic lies because the King James Bible literally removed books (e.g. the books of Maccabees and Baruch etc which Catholic Bibles include) and because the translation of the old testament is based on the Masoretic text which was altered by the medieval Jewish scribes who wrote it.
>>222305748>If you don't accept my revised version filled with lies you are larpingThere was and is only one english version of the Bible. It doesn't need "new" versions. I don't care about your satanic counterfits and I will not let you fill people's heads with lies.
>>222305748>look how cool I am>im not like those other christians who care about the bible I just to by the gives bro
>>222305776So he's being a retarded pedant, just like I assumed>>222305809I'm not even the one who posted it, I just get annoyed at this holy roller larping bullshit
>>222305614>there's absolutely no archaeological evidence that the events of the old testament happenedI already listed a bunch of evidence for it such as the Mesha stele etc>even the names moses, abraham, isaac, and jacob don't appear in known iron age levantine inscriptions and only become common in the second temple period, proving these names only became well known much laterAs I said before, there is historical evidence that an exodus from Egypt happened and there are various stories attested to by historians that point towards a cultural memory of an event like the exodus having happened such as the story of Osarseph (a monotheistic priest who rebelled against the Pharoh and Egyptian laws of worship and became the leader of a colony of enslaved lepers in Avaris who was eventually exiled). The most compelling and underrated evidence that Moses really existed however and was in Egypt and raised as an Egyptian as described is literally his name; ms or mose is an Egyptian suffix name suffix meaning 'child of' e.g. Ramose, which means 'child of Ra.' The fact that Moses' name so closely resembles this mose or mosis part of an Egyptian name is very telling and likely means his name originally was 'child of [some Egyptian deity]' when he was raised in the Egyptian temple/Pharoh's court but then after exile changed his name to simply 'mose/mosis' which became Moshe in Hebrew and Moses in English.Furthermore, there is archaelogical evidence of semitic people at the Egyptian site Avaris - which is the same location as in the Osarseph story.
Everybody ITT is a stupid fucking retarded faggot reddit nigger
>>222306041>the story of osarseph kinda sounds like a jewish fairy taledebunked as a jewish cope>the most compelling evidence is that moses having a completely different name (although there is no evidence for this) which he later changed to moses (also no evidence for this)
>>222305941>holy roller larping bullshitAlso known as "carring about the Bible". Stop hiding behind lies or fuck off.
>>222305941actually based on this >>222305809 he might be one of those original King James Bible purists.>There was and is only one english version of the Biblewhich is what? And why would God make it so that the reach of His Word is limited to only one translation?Be careful that you don't make an idol out of the book itself and think the text matters more than its meaning and living by it.>Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.>1 Corinthians 13, KJV
>>222306381That's a lot of words to say "I can do whatever I want with the Bible". There is the text and there is the translation. That's it. Why would you need more "translations"? To cause confusion. Stop hiding behund lies or fuck off.
>>222306204you would dismiss literally any and all evidence put before you no matter what because you don't want to believe it and care about hating Jews more than what is real or true. No amount of historical evidence would be good enough for you because your priorities and motivations are not actually about what is real or not and your decisions and beliefs do not hinge on evidence but on your feelings and neuroses. You enjoy hating people and being a negative person with animosity towards people, you enjoy being at war with people and fighting against them and feeling superior to others and having beliefs that justify being negative towards people. This is why no amount of evidence would change your mind because you are not motivated by or affected by the evidence in the first place. You will simply just handwave everything away and go 'no evidence, no evidence, doesn't count' in an absurdly overconfident and blase way even when being presented with things you have no knowledge of and have never heard of before because what is actually happening in your head is>I dunno how it doesn't count but it just can't count because I've already decided it isn't real and I want to hate Jews and literally anything related to them in any capacity, I dunno how the evidence doesn't make sense but it just musn't because reality is where me hating Jews is the prime directive and everything must be in service of ityou are not even original or unique in being like this, which is how I know you are like this.
>>222306559>There is the text and there is the translationwhich translation?There was no Bible for over 300 years during the early Church period and the canon was decided on by the Church before any English translation even existed and the English translation you are referring to - probably the KJV - is literally not the canon Bible as agreed upon by the actual Church and has books removed from it and a divergent translation into English from what the original Church was using liturgically in Greek and Latin. So how can you possibly say that your mistranslated chopped up version in English is more special than any other? Protestant nonsense.
>>222306692I am so not reading this bullshit. You can stop spewing your lies now. You had been found out.
>>222305809there no "new version", brainlet. its part 2. think of it like terminator 2 , aliens 2, jackass
>>222300190jesus was a maori
>>222306780why is the KJV more legitimate than any other translation when it has books removed from it such as Baruch and Maccabees and its old testament is based on the Masoretic text and only exists because it was commissioned for the heretical schismatic sect called the Church of England? Explain this
theres a sub sahara nigger in the first ten minutes
>>222304946>Both Catholic, and Orthodox Churches started at the day of Pentecost. Jesus Himself Instituted the Eucharist at the last Supper.what are your thoughts on whether the bread used in the Eucharist should be leavened or unleavened? Roman Catholics use unleavened bread due to the Last Supper happening at Passover and the Orthodox traditionally use leavened bread for symbolic post-resurrection reasons.Or do you think it doesn't matter either way?
>>222304967How about you believe in it because Jesus Christ God is literally real instead? The culture war is irrelevant. Seek Him and you will find Him, call to Him and He will answer.
>>222300573Rabbi is literally just a word for master/teacher. You people are retards.
people aged faster in the past because they were outside more
>>222300543>>222300625>God did/allowed [X thing] that I find immoral and makes me angry>Therefore He can't exist/I won't believe He existswhy do atheists still make these Hitchens-tier arguments, even now?
>>222304967Based and not a fucking moronpilled
>>222300735Clemency, forgiveness, is the second key virtue of the Aeneid (which Aeneus pointedly fails at), the first being piety. Caesar was most known for his clemency.Justice is also a Christian virtue. So is courage (you literally also have martyrdom on there). Wealth is not a Roman virtue. Being rich through mercantile success was always seen as inferior to martial or civic service, and both Aristotle and Saint Paul have pleonexia (acquisitiveness) as a vice. Even chastity was, to a much lesser extent, a Pagan virtue (in line with temperance).The only comparison that maybe makes sense is dominance, which Rome did see as its special role as lawgivers. But that just goes to Saint Augustine's point about how the lust to dominate becomes a dominating lust. Unlike Twitter Trads, Augustine was a native Latin speaker who cited Virgil and all the classical authors with extreme fluency and was raised in Roman culture and yet he gives us 1,400 provocative pages on why it is actually shit, even according to its own standards.
>>222300715>Yasheuawhy is that almost everyone who pedantically insists on calling Jesus by some variation of the Hebrew version of His name almost always is trying to convince you that Jesus isn't actually as described in traditional Christian understanding as well? You ever notice that? Almost as if there's some correlation between rejecting the full truth and divinity of Jesus with rejecting his name as traditionally said in the westit's always some niche protestant or flavor of Arianist or liberal atheist or some kind of Jew insisting on just not calling him Jesus and obsessing over the specialness of some other name like Yeshua or Yahushua or whateverand He wasn't ebony black, he was semitic and Levantine so likel had pale or olive skin
>>222300190jesus isn't real so why not just make some shit up?
>>222308050based post
>>222300560>You deserve eternal suffering for not believing my fairy tale is real. Absolutely jewish.
>>222308171Jesus is real, I have met Him
>>222301867The Middle East is not Africa, read a map.
>>222308205that anon never said 'deserve' the post was descriptive>it makes me mad therefore it isn't realillogical. You not liking the concept of Hell doesn't mean it can't exist.
>>222308252Ok prove hell exists using empirical data.
>>222308220No you're just a schizo hallucinating external voices.
>>222300953Saar no
>>222308013why does something exist rather than nothing? How did it come from nothing? What is animating it? What causes it to change? Why doesn't the universe just collapse out of existence at any moment or randomly fall apart? What is consciousness and how can it come from inanimate matter? What happens to it after the body dies? Why did people imagine God? Why do people have a longing for God? Why does every single human culture ever have a concept of deities, the afterlife and similar ideas about it? How did Christianity appear out of nowhere in history? Why did those first century Jews suddenly invent a new divergent religion against their own traditions and culture out of nowhere and commit to it despite doing so having zero or even negative benefit? Why does every other religion attest to Jesus but not the other way around? Why did Christianity significantly improve and change the entire world but no other religion did this? Why can all moral progress be traced back to Christians in some way? Why are there so many NDEs, spiritual experiences, reported miracles and accounts involving Jesus and other Christian Saintly figures or the Eucharist and Icons etc throughout history continuing into modern times?unless you can sufficently answer all of these questions convincingly, then you cannot just dismiss Christianity as being 'moronic' as if it's self-evident and obvious.
>>222308327not just voices, I have felt and experienced His presence in the same way you know when a person is there in the room with you as well as having encountered Him in dreams with Him consistently having the same voice and feeling of presence as experienced when awake, as well as having had prayers answered and external physical phenomena in response to calling out to Him.
>>222308314>prove [realm beyond empirical experience exists using instruments and standards in material realm where it is inaccessible]this might almost work as a gotcha except that there are so many NDEs of people seeing Hell, even atheists and most people who have those experiences convert to Christianity if they weren't already after experiencing itExplain why literally every human culture ever has some version of Hell in their beliefs
>>222308506>>222308569Take your meds you fucking chud.
>>222300993Yes. Modern Jews are not biologically related to the Hebrews of old.
>>222300573Jesus funded 1 (one) Church, and His Chruch is Holy, Catholic and Apostolic And the gates of hell shall not prevail
>>222308595Jesus is more loving and kind than you can possibly imagine and He is happy to be found by people, especially those who know Him the least or are the most unlikely. He is trying to reach you anon and you will probably encounter Him in the most unexpected of circumstances but if you earnestly seek Him out, He will answer you.
>>222307954what causes this? Exposure to UV rays?
Threadly reminder that getting angry with an anon and calling them a retard or similar insult is literally a mortal sin>Matthew 5>22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ [Aramaic, meaning; empty-headed] shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
>>222309130Sunlight destroy skin and can cause skin cancer. People with white skin are more vulnerable to this.
i'm tired of christiansgladly the only historical data we know about Jesus is it was a jew prophet and it was crucifiedeven Buddha had more historical background with archeological evidence thanks to Ashoka
>>222309522and no the bible doesn't count it's like muslims with the hadiths and suchthat's why secular sources are important
>>222300190>>222300508Jewsus was also a jew cacodaemon and is pretty much satan
>>222300649>Diogo MorgadoI don't know much but I know what I like and that's a handsome Jesus, consarn it!
>>222309522>>222309541why did the first century Jews who became the first Christians all collectively sincerely believe that Jesus had risen from the dead? Why did they invent a new religion and commit to it for no benefit if it wasn't true?Is every person that has ever personally encountered Jesus and seen miracles just collectively crazy, on a massive scale?
>>222309595>>222303447see all the gay faggots (because they are gay that's why they cope about Christianity not being real) pretending something is not real doesn't make it go away, like even your based science knows jesus existed, and btw plenty of research is actually prohibited because of "jew holy sites"For example the mount sinai and the temple never had research done in the land.However what has EXTENSIVE research on is the shroud of turin, which had scientists say it was "done in the medieval times" but then it was discovered it was impossible to create it during those times and it's still impossible to recreate it now
>sticks turning into snakes>global floods>necromancers>humans living as long as yoda>giants like 20 foot tall plus giants>knights traveling faster then hypersonic jets using sages magic>king arthur getting turned into birdyou mean to tell me they had all this shit and we got stuck in this gigashit timeline where we are supposed to be happy with 4chan? Like if jesus could raise the dead he couldn't just go kai blast all the jews trying to arrest him? Or summon exodia and have it blow up the market?
>>222309595Jesus knew you would say such things about him before he went to the cross but He still loves you and went ahead with it for you anyway. The fact that you compulsively feel the need to blaspheme Him and say such things despite there being no point to doing so if He didn't exist proves that you do actually know He is real on some level but are reeling against this truth out of anguish and frustration because of the gravity of what it entails and are lashing out.He will always love you anon, it's not too late; you can turn back at any moment. You will always have Jesus, even if you have no one else. He believes in you more than anyone and knows you better than yourself. It's going to be ok.
>>222300190jesus was also Black
>>222309522>tired of Christianstoo bad faggol>archeological evidenceagain this is your faggot brain on "science".aside from the fact that there is plenty of historical evidence for Jesus AND, for him being the son of God, why are you so keen on evidence when all evidence you will ever get will always make you sketical.Also it's funny how you conveniently believe jewish media when they tell you which archeological evidence is ok
>>222309633https://youtu.be/5Bl_L8GFnbM?si=rmyWOHzYuzzqI4be
>>222309801>Like if jesus could raise the dead he couldn't just go kai blast all the jews trying to arrest him? Or summon exodia and have it blow up the market?>38 Then two bandits were crucified with him, one on his right and one on his left. 39 Those who passed by derided[n] him, shaking their heads 40 and saying, “You who would destroy the temple and build it in three days, save yourself! If you are the Son of God, come down from the cross.” 41 In the same way the chief priests also, along with the scribes and elders, were mocking him, saying, 42 “He saved others; he cannot save himself.[o] He is the King of Israel; let him come down from the cross now, and we will believe in him. 43 He trusts in God; let God deliver him now, if he wants to; for he said, ‘I am God’s Son.’” 44 The bandits who were crucified with him also taunted him in the same way.>11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12 The hired hand, who is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and runs away—and the wolf snatches them and scatters them. 13 The hired hand runs away because a hired hand does not care for the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father. And I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that do not belong to this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd. 17 For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life in order to take it up again. 18 No one takes[a] it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it up again. I have received this command from my Father.”
>>222309865i mean, yeah, historical jesus exist, thanks to romans and Paul mostly, but i mean it's up to you if you believe the miracles and all lol
>>222309814>jewsus loves you goy what a gaylord lmao
>>222309865>>222309795be careful anon >>222309251
yeah take advice of your book
>>222300190>another off-topic thread that will hit post limitjanny thread
>>222309920the only reason why you have the capacity to love anything at all is from God, since God literally is love and goodness itself, the source of it. This is why living and acting in a manner contrary to this leads you into such misery, because you are re-aligning your soul away from the source of life and happiness itself when you do this.And where has living in such a manner gotten you? What have you gained from striving against it in your life? Is it really so worth it? What will all of your proud insults and attacks against others and against Jesus even add up to in the end, anyway? Where is the pay-off? The moment never comes, because you cannot live in such a manner and ever somehow achieve true happiness through flailing stumbling brute force. You do not know what you are doing.
>>222307974We weren't the ones who insisted that god is perfectly good.If your god is immoral then he doesn't fit your own definition of god.
morality doesn't existnowcan we get a good historical tv show or film about christianity without christcuck theology?
>>222304918By this reasoning Vampires exist because Abraham Lincoln existed.
>>222306780See what I mean? This dude just has mental problems.Anyways if you're gonna be like that, at least read it in Greek. Being this level of a pedant over ANY translation is absurd.
Ah so is this one of those rebranded "if made today would be considered woke" threads? The ones where the OP purposefully pretends to not understand things like people's grievances for internationally race swapping characters? Like making the Queen of England black but simultaneously telling everyone the British royal family oppressed blacks because they were white and therefore evil?
>>222300625Doesn't say that at all faggot. If you twist it enough it might be saying "ignore thots, go for virgins and wait for children to come of age". Thats if it is even talking about sex at all.
>>222300953Ironically they also support the Islamic pedo cult that wants them dead.
>>222310195Only if you deliberately ignore the post.
>>222309251What do you think "brother" means? Not "fellow man", but "fellow Christian". However, you do have a case, because you are supposed to bridle your tongue, because insulting and being abrasive does nobody any good.
>>222310180morality does exist otherwise people wouldn't love or care about people they aren't related to, nobody would ever do selfless acts for no benefit for others such as being executed in place of someone else and slavery would never have been abolished in the west, nor would vegans existthere is no convincing evolutionary explanation for any of these behaviors that makes sense, is compelling or has much evidence for it
>>222310443ontological moralism doesnt exist faggotim not arguing with continental philosophy im a chud analyticalnow, recommend me a kino, im tired
>>222310383>What do you think "brother" means? Not "fellow man", but "fellow Christian". Jesus is saying that teaching to a crowd of Jews and Gentiles before the Church even existed and says that the ten commandments of the mosaic law can be summed up as loving your neighbors (as in, not people who live in the same household as yourself but strangers)what is even the point of the parable of the good Samaritan if he was actually just preaching 'be good to your fellow brothers in the in-group club that your gonna found afterwards?'>43 ‘You have heard that it was said, “You shall love your neighbour and hate your enemy.” 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax-collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet only your brothers and sisters, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.Thinking that it exclusively only applies to Christians in the in-group is a cope to justify continuing on in the same un-Christlike behavior as before just because it's easier and more enjoyable and because it's a high standard and hard teaching to actually follow.
>>222310579>49 Start wars and kill people from the fellow christian countries 50 Enslave people 51 Colonize and take their land as your own 52 Torture people 53 Burn women because you suspect they're witches 54 Priests should diddle little boys
>>222310548ontological morality does exist because God IS moral goodness and ontologically exists unto himself; humans having any morality at all is an expression of God's nature acting through them, because they are made in his image. Humans are conduits of God's divine mercy and without God would be like demons, unable to be moral agents at all or even experience anything positive.Thinking, meanwhile, that morality can be conjured up out of inanimate matter as a purely accidental unintended side-effect of a survival mechanism and that the organism being morally good and selfless is technically it glitching out and misapplying a survival mechanism is so much more fantastical and ludocrous than the theistic version and the fact that atheists like yourself take it at face value and don't think about how absurd it is is really baffling. Even when I was an atheist myself I still couldn't truly accept it and never found it satisfying as an explanation and it is so obvious that many people just accept it because it licences them to keep doing morally bad things and act depraved even though the explanation makes no sense when you give it any level of thought.You just WANT reality to be nihilistic and for morality to just be a meme because then you can get away with not changing your behavior and/or not feeling guilty about doing/having done really evil things.>now, recommend me a kino, im tiredTakopi's Original Sin (anime, only 6 episodes)>inb4 tranime, inb4 this is /tv/don't care, nothing kino in live-action has been released for the past decade and nothing immediately comes to mind
>>222310723Jesus never commanded anyone to do the things you listed so you just wasted your time posting that as a counterpoint. The Christian worldview already has it where everybody is an imperfect sinner and the world is inherently fallen and people will always sin and fall short, even members of the faith and church themselves so there is no contradiction.
>>222303447>222300715>222300953>>222301131>222302130>>222303706Christ is punishing palestinians for their wickedness as we SPEAKThat's why they die so horribly by the day while jews laugh
>>222300190And jesus didn't exist. The Roman Empire created christianity as a mystery cult, using their double agent Paul and cribbing from Josephus's life, all to pacify the all too uppity jews.
>>222308050>wrathofgnonWhat's next, Evola posting?
>>222311283dumbest theory yet. how the fuck did that 'pacify' the jews? why would that pacify the jews? they rebelled right after
>>222311143The days will eventually come where you feel great regret over making sad posts like this and will feel ashamed.Regardless, the Israel-Palestine war is the result of Man's own lawlessness and worldly ambitions and is a result of the spirit of the antichrist increasing in the world. Jesus does not want anyone to kill one another, especially not children who are pure of heart and the kind that belong to the kingdom of Heaven, and He does not back any worldly kingdoms since this world is passing away and His kingdom is not of this world. Everyone involved in that conflict will be held to account equally on the day of judgement but the children who die to the drone strikes and bombs are blameless. You too will be held to account for saying such things; it's not too late to turn away from such behavior. LORD have mercy on you.
>>222311143I thought it was Allah, because palestinians are too comically evil even for islam.
>>222311283>The Roman Empire created christianity as a mystery cultThe mystery cults like Mithras were LARPy things for the rich upper classes unlike Christianity which began and spread organically amongst the lowest levels of Roman society and started in a backwater area of little interest to the ruling class, hence this is a nonesensical ahistorical theory. And as the other anon said, it didn't 'pacify' the Jews at all who revolted many times, furthermore Christianity was also unpopular with Jews themselves and the first Christians were pariahs being ostracized and persecuted by Jews as well as Romans. There was literally no upside or benefit to becoming a Christian if you were a Jew back then, other than that you were convinced of the faith being true.
>>222311832The Romans persecuted messianic jews, not christians. They never persecuted christians.
>>222311832It really is the dumbest theory possible isn't it? I don't think the Romans were terribly worried about bending over backwards to appease the Jews, either. >>222311880Please, please learn some actual history. Whichever youtuber you are getting this from is feeding you absolute nonsense.
>>222310579I agree with you, but in the context of that verse, it has a convental context i.e a fellow Christian. Calling a believer "a fool" is more grievious, because you're both in Christ, and it'd be like spitting on Christ himself. 1 Corinthians 8:12:>“When you thus sin against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ.”I'm not saying that it's acceptable to insult people outside of believers, just that it carries more weight
>>222312149>I'm not saying that it's acceptable to insult people outside of believers, just that it carries more weightIt's funny you say this and reference 1 Corinthians since Paul also says this there>1 Corinthians 5>12 For what have I to do with judging those outside? Is it not those who are inside that you are to judge? 13 God will judge those outside. Paul seems to advocate not even judging unbelievers outside the Church at all whereas you should reprimand/correct those within the congregation if they are obviously sinning and being a detriment to their brothers and sisters in the Church; btw the context of him saying this is that he is reprimanding the Church at Corinth for allowing sexual immorality amongst congregation members and not haing done anything about it.The context of the verse you cited in chapter 8 is that Paul is advising not to lead congregation members who don't know any better into unwittingly sinning e.g. if they see you eating in the temple of an idol and don't realize they aren't supposed to do it and copy your example.Ultimately though, I always default to what Jesus himself said since it's God himself, the primary source, and Jesus' teachings are always more uncomplicated and intuitive/parsimonious than anything else. Jesus says to judge and insult literally nobody so I will always just default to this and not try to cope or loophole my way around it or try to justify failing to do it. Maybe you can make some convoluted scriptural argument about how 'well actually it means this, and technically...' but since what Jesus himself says seems utterly straightforward and all-encompassing, I see it like a 'better safe than sorry' situation.Something I often notice about Jesus' teachings is that there is never any downside to follow the teachings in the most plain reading 'it applies to literally everyone' kind of way it always makes you a better person if you follow it like that rather than interpreting it in some not-obvious way.
>>222310300The context is god telling the Israelites what to do with the Midianites who they just defeated
>>222312429I agree with the universal application: do not despise anyone. But I still think “brother” is deliberate and gives the warning an intensified covenantal application. Despising a fellow believer is especially grave because one is treating someone who belongs to Christ as though he were worthless or beyond grace.Plus, Jesus called people fools, but only in the right context. It's not about "never judging", but "judge with right discernment", like Jesus did.
>>222312631>Jesus called people fools, but only in the right contextHe's allowed to do that because he is God and has perfect judgement, which we do not have>Despising a fellow believer is especially grave because one is treating someone who belongs to Christ as though he were worthless or beyond grace.definitely worth thinking about. The troubling and scary thing about this to me though is: what counts as a fellow believer, especially if you do not 100% know what counts as the real Church. Does it even matter? How would you be able to tell or not? which denominations are you allowed to judge and despise and which not?This is why I default to just trying not to judge or insult anyway at all since I do not trust my own judgement whatsoever and just always assume I am heavily sinning if I find myself ever doing so towards anyone, because I truly have no no actual idea what counts and what doesn't, and even feeling like I could presume to know in and of itself feels like a sin.
This show is still going on? You could absolutely read the Gospel in kike an afternoon instead of watching 100+ hours or whatever of this
>>222311917>>Please, please learn some actual history.I did.
Because that show is literally written by Mormons.
>>222313313Well those guys are fucking retards for the reasons we just explained to you
>>222309910whats wrong with believing in divine acts by, no other, than the son of God?
