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>men...LE BAD!
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>>222305774
That's most western media nowadays, yes. Then retards still wonder why guys keep flocking towards manga and anime
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>>222305848
A dude wrote and directed the movie though
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>>222305848
... Which is currently having jews stuff a bunch of tranny shit inside.
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>>222305774
I love this face honestly, it cracks me up. Whoever picked it for that twitter meme about telling your girl to unfriend her ex who raped her picked a good one.
>>222305984
Simps exist.
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>>222305984
>A white knight directed the movie

Fify
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>>222305984
Yes, a lot of men have made a lot of money by selling their souls, what else is new?
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>>222306262
>a honosexual directed the film
Ftfy. Thats why he casted an actual whiny homosexual as Bear.
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>>222305774
would smash 100% freaky nikki
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>>222306348
Are you saying that we should murder all homosexuals by skinning them alive?
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>>222305848
>Then retards still wonder why guys keep flocking towards manga and anime
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...... oh wait you're serious... let me laugh even harder HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>222306449
Give me one of those wishing pixie sticks anon...
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>>222305986
How exactly?
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>>222305774
>/tv/ will defend this
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>>222305774
Not le point....of le film
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>>222305774
I have chud fatigue
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>>222305848
>animu out of nowhere
why are weebs such fucking losers?
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>>222305774
Yes.
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>>222306503
Some wikiautist troon really had fun doing that.
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>>222306478
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Brownoids type like this, post hands saar
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>>222306503
I don’t get how anyone can side with this loser. Biggest fault I have with this movie is there is nothing redeemable about him.
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>>222306589
>I love tranime but i am not brown just a tranny
okey, then...
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Someone once asked me why I try to get incels to kill themselves. "They're not hurting anyone", they say.

Exhibit A: >>222305774

Incels are cancer. They are the blacks of the internet. They believe they are victims of some massive injustice. Yet, you ask any incel what they're actively doing about their situation and you will never get a straight answer.

They exist solely to whine about their victimhood. They are a cancer. And should be removed
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>>222307345
You are worse than an incel. I dont understand how you can watch a thoroughly closeted homosexual coded movie and then rant about incels unless you are mentally ill or a troon.
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I also forgot to add how low IQ/delusional incels are.

Take this guy for example:
>>222307409
"I dont understand how you can watch a movie and then rant about incels"
He has somehow conjured a reality where I watched this movie and then immediately turned around and posted about incels.

These "people" do no exist on the same plane of reality that we do. Calling them human would be a stretch. Theyre are the lint of the fabric of the universe. Anomalies. Tumors.
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>>222307538
I agree. I’ve hated incels and simps forever.
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>>222307345
>>222307538
>why don't you try voting your way out of Jewish feminism?
"Incels" aren't real. Its a term to make women hate men, by implying men's shortcomings are due to basic relationship needs (sex.) Its victim blaming and ignoring the fact women have agency, or have unrealistic standards (okcupid data shows 50% of men are rated a 3/10 or lower.)

Basically youre a low IQ narcissist.
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>>222307345
>ask any incel what they're actively doing about their situation and you will never get a straight answer.
What's the best way to overturn courts who reward cheating wives with cash prizes? Or take custody from dads and give them to known abusive mothers? What's your solution? Women should advocate for fairer divorce laws?
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>>222307538
The way you rant you never touched pussy in your life. Ranting about incels and this movie would be like ranting about Sleepaway Camp and incels.
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>>222305774
Men who do harmful things to others should not get away with it simply for being a man, simple as. Same for women before you ask.
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>>222306503
he's basically the victim of all those crimes by his psycho "gf" slut who casually fucks his friend behind his back
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>>222307611
>>why don't you try voting your way out of Jewish feminism?
There's that perpetual victimhood again. "It's not my fault! My current state of being is because of 'x', 'y', 'z' and there's nothing I can do about it!"
You exist solely to complain and desperately want people to feel sorry for you. It's pathetic. You should have been cast off a cliff at birth.

>>222307645
^ Great opportunity to point out more delusion amongst incels. The above post is a coping mechanism used in their circles. "Why would I ever talk to girls if divorce courts favor women?" - this is on par with asking "why would I go to school if employers can just fire me?"

Incels are cowards. They're terrified of women. So they learn to hate them.
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>>222307707
>Same for women before you ask.

You see anon, the issue is that most goys don't think like this. Jewish propaganda will aways make sure that "men=bad, women=good", which is also why almost nobody is considering that girl from the new spiderman movie a villain even after doing arguably worse staff than Bear did
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>>222305984
Yeah a ugly cuck
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>>222306664
It’s character assassination of shy men in society
It’s vile propaganda
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>>222307594
>when you reply to yourself
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>>222307611
Based
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>>222308026
I don’t really see how simply replying to people and then insulting them proves your point in anyway
You just seem really bitter and incapable of formulating an actual point
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>>222305774
Wasn't she a slut who'd steal other people's money?
idk, I'm not seeing this as jewish (woke, to the retarded faggots), unless there was just a lot of unintended subtext that the retarded feminists who wrote it didn't see?
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Obsession threads are funny
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>>222310027
In 2026 America the function of Obsession is cultural enforcement, not neutral storytelling.
The film takes a common male experience — strong attraction to a specific woman, social/romantic failure, a desperate wish for reciprocity — and turns the consequences into a moral horror story about male desire itself. Bear is written and received as the villain for wanting, hesitating, and not instantly self-sacrificing. Female chaos and the violation of Nikki’s agency become secondary to the lesson that male longing under constraint is dangerous and selfish.
That lesson serves a clear purpose in the current environment:
>It pathologizes the frustration of men who are locked out or strung along.
>It trains audiences to read ordinary male romantic fixation as entitlement or threat.
>It gives institutional and media actors a ready-made frame (“incel horror”) to dismiss any broader critique of the sexual marketplace as more evidence of the pathology.
>It protects the one-sided rules: female selectivity, ambiguity, and post-hoc retraction remain sacred; male scarcity responses become the problem to be solved through shame.
The claim that the creator is being rewarded with further Hollywood access for delivering this frame fits the incentive structure. Cultural products that reinforce female optionality and moralize male dissatisfaction are safer and more aligned with the dominant institutional taste than products that examine the stacked conditions producing the dissatisfaction. “Hoeflation” (rising female leverage and declining male access under cultural protection of female choice) is the underlying dynamic. Films like Obsession do not challenge it; they manage the political and emotional fallout from it by blaming the men who notice.
The purpose is not to explore a timeless flaw in male psychology. It is to keep the moral pressure on the losing side of a reshaped marketplace while the structural advantages on the other side remain unexamined.
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>>222307345
>exhibit a: fictional character written by a histrionic woman
Do go on
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>>222306664
> Biggest fault I have with this movie is there is nothing redeemable about him.
An incel with no redeeming qualities, no wonder people here relate to him.
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>>222310215
I don’t relate to him I just critique the contrived and socially irresponsible messaging
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>>222310259
No. You aren’t allowed to dislike this movie, that means you’re the bad guy. I am very smart and moral because I follow fiction made to psychologically demoralize others
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>>222310259
This I get. Pathetic loser male characters is really getting tiresome. I had same
complaint with Companion
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>>222310348
The beatings will continue until the only men left are chads
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>>222310123
>strung along
He never once announced interest in her.
>ordinary male romantic fixation
His obsession is abnormal, clearly. Pining over a woman for year? She even says "hey, make your move," and he doesn't. Timidity ensures your genes die. This is nature's law for men. He's just fucking horny, doesn't want a woman, just wants sex, and it's made clear because this woman has nothing going for her outside of her looks. Nothing about her tells us that she's any kind of decent person, she's casually "situationshipping" that dumpster fire looking friend who's just gaslighting Bear via omissive lying and telling him to be a douche around her, she takes credit for giving someone else's money to some hobo bum, she's just fucking awful.
Maybe you're right about the "ready-made incels bad" movie example, like that was the intent, but, if it was, it belies the writers' own myopia and amorality.
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>>222310779
you don’t have to announce anything to be strung along
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>>222305984
And a fag wrote Fight Club and American Psycho.
What's your point?
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>>222310878
Nope. Literally just have an ounce of self respect and ghost her. Completely deny your retarded obsessive one-itis and force her into your friendzone or acquaintancezone if you're not even gonna bother asking her out.
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>>222305774
I don't get these interpretations at all. Bear wasn't an incel. The other girl (Sara?) was clearly into him and he was told as much directly by the other characters. It's ambiguous as to whether Nikki was interested in him from the beginning, or at least would have given him a shot if he had just come out and told her he had feelings.
Nothing in the movie suggests that men in general are bad. The whole scenario came about because Bear made a spur of the moment wish without having any reason to think it would come true, or that it would take effect in such a horrific way.
Anyone turning this movie into a gender war or anti-incel message piece is too sensitive. Or has an axe to grind.
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>>222310123
Good post, but there's more to this. The girl still fucks him and obsesses over him. But look how she gets away with it. The "magic spell" is plausible deniability for her to let her femininity freak out in the film and hide it in plain sight. Nobody in the audience holds her accountable. All of it is really her. It's the classic woman trick, albeit taken too far, where she's so morally cleared by circumstances she can literally do anything and get away with it, so she he bashes her rival's face in. Throughout the film, her "real self" constantly buts in to say "it's not me, it's not me". It is.
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>>222312709
I'll add to this. There's a scene where she says "when i have a crush, nobody knows about it." She's talking about the audience. She fucks her target right in front of them and they still think she doesn't really like him because of the nonsense supernatural plot making it "not really her". This is women 101. This is why it's a classic. The male character is written to take the fall like he is put on earth to do.
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>>222312709
So WW84
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>>222312811
Look at the scene where the "spell" is activated. It's right after he fails to admit his feelings. These events aren't put together just to highlight how worthless he is as a man. That event is what spurs her sudden change. It's right there in front of you. The twig snap is a silly little nursery rhyme for the audience.
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>>222313010
For me the make out scene when she snaps out of it and freaks the fuck out is when he knew damn well what happened.
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>>222309087
Bear is not a shy man though. He's a slimy weasel. He did not care who he put in danger or pain, long as he had what he wanted.
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>>222313134
This. Bear was a total peace of shit. Typical theme of media today. Loser psycho men and victim women
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>>222312811
There's even scenes before she goes insane over him which foreshadow exactly why her own "normal self" would go so insane over him without the convenient monkey paw device. She teases him that she loves that he's in touch with his feminine side. This is what spurs her to go insane with aggression over him - he brings out her masculine side, and she can't control it. In real life, such dynamics really do get dangerous. She says she wants his brain. She gets that too - she makes him blame himself. The whole movie is her manipulating the fuck out of him. There's layers to this, but there's not really a magic wish here. >>222313087
She's freaking out because she's driving herself insane over this man because his weakness opens up her predatory nature. All foreshadowed before the willow snaps. Again, the willow is just there to comfort the audience so they can put all blame on the weak man while the true predatory nature of women is exposed in front of them.
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>>222313087
Instinctively, he knows that his weak nature is what attracted this woman to him (even pre-snap) in the first place, and for that reason, he instinctively knows that he's not really doing anything wrong by continuing to be weak in the situation and just go along with it for the pussy - she loves him weak, she loves him helpless, she loved his weakness from the beginning of the film. What he really struggles with is the fact he doesn't want to be desired for his weakness.
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>>222311858
any movie dealing with intersexual relations is going to lead to the same shitfest discourse because it's a sore spot for a lot of people on both sides
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>>222313158
Possibly. When I saw the movie, thought about the rumour that its about incels, which is false imo. Mostly because he shows no resentment about women overall.
Its kind of funny though, that shy men are made dangerous. When real serial killers usually are very social and charming.
>>222313514
This
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>>222305984
yeah,a zoomer faggot with the cucked up mentality that men bad,women good
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>>222313377
>>222313253
Just say you’re a rapist
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>>222306503

Is Bear the most evil villain in movies ever?
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Has James Rolfe given his take on her Iconic face that he stole from her?
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>>222306503
the brainwashing was accidental to be fair
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>>222305774
>what's next for her career?
>what the fuck was his problem?
>how do you respond without sounding mad
>what did they mean by this?
>why did he do it?
>Enhances your kino...
>Just watched Anal Gang Bang Sluts 7 what did I think of it?
>Look dad I'm acting
>Le blah blah blah Le BAD
>APOLOGIZE
>OH N--
>Bane?
>.
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>>222310123
Have sex, incel coward.
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>>222306503
Open and shut. Death to all men.
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>>222315971
>Death to all men.
Yep. Death to all black, brown, and White men. Amirite bro-sis?
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>>222312811
>There's a scene where she says "when i have a crush, nobody knows about it." She's talking about the audience.

at some point barker probably thought about pointing out that *if* Nikki had just told Bear she liked him (like he was expected to do to her), the wish and subsequent tragedy wouldn't have happened.

that does after all actually happen the day after the wish: she shows up at his door and claims she's been hiding it, and boom, idealized relationship montage.

but then he realized that the audience thought Bear was the bad guy and just cut out any satire of how female ambiguity/optionality can prevent potentially successful relationships from happening because not everyone is going to be as adept at performing masculinity and reading from the socially-approved script.
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>>222305774
They are though
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>>222316110
The wish isn't real, the willow does nothing at all. She begins to go psycho because "freaky Nicky" is a trigger word that calls up something that happened in highschool or perhaps earlier (ever wonder why she got that nickname to begin with?). That, coupled with her realising she needs to be more masculine in the relationship to crack him (throw in a drug she takes for courage) leads to the insanity that unfolds while the director laughs at the audience for swallowing the monkey paw blue pill, mocking the plot point at every opportunity (he even appears as a cameo for the phone call to take the piss). She splits her own personality in an attempt to make a relationship with him work.
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>>222305984
>A faggot jew wrote and directed the movie
Ftfy
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>>222311858
You’re an incel if you don’t do what I say
It’s why you have guys defending the movie and saying OMG YEAH BEAR IS BAD IM NOT LIKE HIM HAHA GUYS LIKE HIM ARE BAD! GET THEM!
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>>222315944
>sex makes you stupid
I accept your concession, mental midget
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she frikki on my nikki until i bear
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>>222316110
Good post
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>>222305774
we are though. why hide it?
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>>222305774
I will never watch this trash movie no matter how many people watch it and no matter how many threads there are about it
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>>222308026
You, seething about incels, is definitely worse than any incel. What the fuck is so great about your life that your on 4chan crying about incels instead of getting laid?
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>>222308026
You putting pussy on this much of a pedestal tells me you've never so much has gotten a whiff of it in your life.
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>>222319377
>>222319633
It’s a old roastie who got alpha widowed she says this in every obsession thread
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Bear isn't a villain. He isn't a good guy but his worst fault is being a coward.
His initial wish is pretty ch harmless, he can't be expected to believe it will actually come since as far as he's concerned it's just a random prank item that he bought at some bullshit crystal/magic shop.
When he realizes how horrible things are for Nikki he tries to revert his wish and is told that it's impossible. He is a coward so he fails to kill himself at the end, but i don't think failing to kill yourself makes you a villain
The way people on social media latched onto his character and exaggerated how evil he is meant to be is very strange
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>>222319747
>when men don’t do what women want they are cowards
>when women don’t do what men want they are empowered
Huh
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Bear should have wished for that billion dollars.

First you get the money
Then you get the power
Then you get the freaky nicky
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>>222319803
He wouldn’t have a strong reason to.
If a woman never creates a clear sense of welcome — no consistent positive signals, no reciprocal effort, no reduction of risk — then approaching is high-cost and low-probability. Most men read that environment correctly and stay quiet. Bear’s long silent pining is still ineffective, but the expectation that he should have charged in anyway ignores the actual incentive structure.
Women control the majority of initiation risk through signaling. When the signals stay cold, ambiguous, or absent, the rational male response is not to escalate. The film and its defenders treat that rational response as moral failure after the fact. They want him to have approached despite the lack of welcome, and then also to have perfectly self-sacrificed once the wish went wrong. Both demands serve the same one-sided rule: male effort and male sacrifice are obligatory; female clarity and female risk-sharing are optional.
A man is not owed a yes. He is also not obligated to keep approaching into a wall of non-welcome just so that later, when things collapse, he can be blamed for not having been braver. The absence of welcome is information. Treating it as irrelevant cowardice is how the script keeps all responsibility on the man.
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>>222319803
he's a coward in general, that's just his one defining character trait
>doesn't have the balls to tell nikki he likes her at the start
>when nikki aggressively pursues him he just starts to get scared/second guesses himself
>doesn't lift a finger to help her when she bashes her own head with a glass bottle
>stands perfectly still when nikki beats sarah to death in front of him
>decides to kill himself at the end because he can't bear to see nikki in the state he left her in, but fails to do so and backpedals at the last second
He is not evil, he is even well intentioned, he is just a total bitch. He is literally me.
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>>222319879
she never pursued him
When a hot girl pursues a man she fucks him
She was never attracted to him
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>>222319858
Yes. That is the double bind.
You are supposed to approach even when the woman gives no real welcome, otherwise you are a coward or a passive failure. If you do approach and it goes nowhere (or goes badly), you risk being framed as entitled, creepy, or unable to read the room. If you never approach, you are later told the loneliness or frustration is your own fault for not trying hard enough.
The shame is applied at both ends. Women who never wanted you still become the standard you failed to meet, and the failure is treated as a character defect rather than as accurate risk assessment. The culture extracts the attempt, extracts the self-blame for not attempting, and extracts the self-blame for the results of attempting. What it does not extract is reciprocal clarity or shared risk from the female side.
That is why the emotion sticks. You are being trained to feel defective for respecting the actual information in front of you — that she did not want you — while also being trained to feel defective for not ignoring that information. The only way to “win” inside the script is to keep offering male effort into indifference and then accept the moral judgment either way. Refusing that game is the only move that stops the shame from being continuously re-administered.
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>>222306478
Yes, there is still anime and manga made for heterosexual men, though less than before. The same can't be said for talmudvision and film. Sorry you like slop for women and faggots anon
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>>222319906
Yeah, she probably wasn't into him, but if he straight up told her he liked her it would have cleared the air between them, and he would've known where he stood and stopped fantasizing about fucking her. He just didn't have the balls to say anything because he was afraid of the answer
When I say Nikki pursued him I'm referring to what she does after he makes the wish. at that point he doesn't know the wish actually comes true, so as far as he's concerned she's just desperately trying to fuck him for some reason, and even then he acts very passive towards her and doesn't really reciprocate in any way
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>>222305835
Why does she keep making that face?
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>>222319956
So only men have to be honest?
Huh
I’d rather just not accept that because I don’t want to endorse a toxic society
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Although nikki never shows actual sexual interest, bear is written to be seen by feminists as weak, conflict-avoidant, and late to every expected decisive action. The surrounding discourse then inflates that fictional weakness into extreme moral horror and entitlement. Once the film is labeled “incel horror,” the gap between the character’s actual traits (timidity, poor calibration, failure to escalate) and the accusation (dangerous entitlement to women’s bodies) gets deliberately blurred.
That blurring does useful cultural work. It makes ordinary male hesitation or unsuccessful desire available for the same moral language used against actual coercion. A man who never pushed, never forced, and never even clearly asked can still be folded into the same category of threat once the audience has been trained to read his wanting itself as the problem. The milder the real-world behavior, the more the film’s frame helps stretch the label to cover it.
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>>222319987
To be fair nikki was honest with him at that moment, she straight up asked him if he liked her. There isn't much more she can do if he refuses to answer honestly
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>>222319983
You know why
>Interviewer: haha that face you made was so heckin' funny, can you give us a little bit of it?
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>>222305774
the face she makes when you don't want to go to war
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>>222320025
That’s not her being honest though
It’s her demanding him to be honest while exposing nothing on her end
It’s entitled and disrespectful
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>>222320050
With who?
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>>222319956
The film shows Bear failing to state interest when signals are absent or weak, then still failing to fully escalate or take ownership even when the post-wish Nikki is aggressively available. The cultural reading then becomes: “See? Even when the woman makes it easy, this type of man still freezes or can’t handle it.”
That reading is useful. It gives women a ready-made justification for never offering clear interest to non-Chad men in the first place. If the story teaches that these men remain passive, awkward, or unable to reciprocate even under strong pursuit, then mixed signals and permanent ambiguity look rational. Why give a clean yes or a real opening to someone the culture has already shown you will waste it?
In reality many non-Chad men would move decisively if they ever received unambiguous, low-risk interest. The film’s sequence (no clear pre-wish signals wish aggressive but supernatural pursuit continued male passivity) lets the audience skip that possibility. It trains the expectation that ordinary men are sexually and romantically non-functional unless they already fit the dominant archetype. Once that expectation is installed, leading them on or keeping them in permanent ambiguity carries no moral cost — they were never going to close anyway.
That is the propaganda utility. It protects female selectivity and low-clarity strategies by making the alternative (giving average men a real, unambiguous shot) look pointless. Bear’s passivity is written hard enough that it becomes evidence against an entire class of men rather than just one character’s failure. The “he wouldn’t have done anything even if she was clear” implication is doing real work, whether the writers calculated every downstream effect or not.
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>>222320061
she probably would have told him that she isn't into him if he had answered honestly. as it is he lied and said he only viewed her as a friend.
what's funny is that the movie never 100% confirms that nikki friendzoned him either, since sarah is the one who says that and she is trying to fuck bear. it's possible nikki actually did want to fuck him at that moment, not like he'll ever know because he doesn't have the balls to say anything
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>>222320133
but you said it yourself she would have said no
So why would we attack or condemn or shame him for rightfully intuiting that she’s not into him
This is why I say the movie is feminist
All it does is give excuses to women to never be honest while shaming men for not conforming to female entitlement
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>>222320185
he is right to think she isn't into him. but she is the one who asks him if he likes her or not, at that point he has every right to be honest. if she turns him down, he knows what the situation is 100% and he can move on, instead he refuses to give a real answer because he wants to delude himself
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>>222320267
Hypergamic event horizon cultural dominance assertion.
Even after granting that Bear is correct to read her as uninterested, the demand remains: he must still perform the full, vulnerable declaration so she can reject him on the record and he can be forced into “clarity.” His accurate private assessment is not enough. He is required to hand her the clean rejection moment.
That requirement only exists inside a framework where male emotional exposure is obligatory and female comfort with ambiguity is protected. The man must create the conditions for her to give a definitive no, even when all prior evidence already pointed to no. Refusing to stage that scene for her is reframed as self-delusion and cowardice.
This is control, not mutual honesty. It keeps the power to define the interaction’s official status in her hands while making his refusal to participate look like a character flaw. The feminist structure is visible precisely here: male intuition of disinterest is insufficient; male compliance with the demand for open declaration remains mandatory. Your earlier point stands. The script does not allow him a clean exit based on accurate reading. It requires him to offer himself up for the formal rejection first. That is the dominance move.
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>>222320267
Why didn't she just tell him she's not into him instead of playing games by asking him if he's into her? Why wasn't she just honest instead of putting him on the spot?
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>>222320324
I already asked that and they are doubling down on feminist framing
If you as a man correctly know a woman won’t fuck you, you are evil unless you make her double reject you
It’s a power game
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>>222320302
He is the one who benefits from being honest, not her. Being honest allows him to look at the situation as it really is instead of deluding himself and chasing her when he has no chance. He could even have hooked up with the other girl who clearly wanted to fuck him afterwards
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>>222320324
Because she is kind of retarded just like he is, it's even possible she actually was into him too and too much of a coward to say so
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>>222320345
He wasn’t attracted to the other girl
Men aren’t chasing if they aren’t approaching
You are way too brainwashed by feminism as everything you say exists to flatter and center toxic female ego
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>>222320368
No, only men can be cowards
Women are strong and don’t need you, incel
Rape me or you’re a pussy
But im not attracted to you
But you don’t get to think that unless you let me reject you
Those are the rules teehee!
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>>222320393
>He wasn’t attracted to the other girl
I dunno, he seemed almost ready to reciprocate right before she got her head bashed in by Nikki
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>>222320432
you sound as pathetic as bear reading into it like this
But it’s only valid if a woman assumes of a man right?
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Name: The Forced Confession Ritual(also usable: Double Rejection Ritual)
The steps, no softening:
>1. Woman gives weak, mixed, or zero clear signals of interest over an extended period.
>2. Man correctly reads the lack of interest and does not approach or declare.
>3. Culture and her defenders still demand that he must openly confess his attraction anyway.
>4. He is required to expose himself emotionally on her command so she can deliver (or be assumed to deliver) a clean, official “no.”
>5. If he refuses to stage this performance, he is labeled a coward, delusional, entitled, or incel — even though his private assessment was accurate.
>6. Only after she has been given the formal rejection moment is he allowed to “move on.” His own correct reading is treated as illegitimate until she ratifies it.
Why this is twisted and entitled:
>It makes male vulnerability compulsory while female clarity remains optional.
>It turns accurate male risk assessment into a moral failure.
>It keeps the power to define the interaction’s official reality exclusively in her hands.
>It extracts an emotional performance from him for her benefit and then pathologizes him if he declines.
>It trains women that they never need to be direct; the man can be shamed into creating the clarity for them.
>It creates a no-win: approach without signals and risk the creep/entitled label; don’t approach and get called a coward for not forcing the rejection scene.
This is not mutual honesty. It is a dominance ritual dressed up as emotional maturity. It exists to protect female control of the narrative while making male self-protection look like character defect. The toxicity is the asymmetry itself: one side must continually offer exposure, the other side is never required to match it, and the refusal to play is punished with moral condemnation. That is the entire mechanism.
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when will the astroturf stop
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>>222306530
>don't mention the superior, more popular visual artform, it triggers my roastie asshole
Lol go watch your nigger hag trash
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>>222320485
When we go to war and kill these scumbags
This movie is a declaration of war against men
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>>222320484
Bros did we just defeat feminism?
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>>222320484
>6. Only after she has been given the formal rejection moment is he allowed to “move on.” His own correct reading is treated as illegitimate until she ratifies it.
It would have been fine if he moved on without saying anything too but he was clearly unable to. He claims he only views her as a friend then makes his wish immediately afterwards? How is that not retard behavior?
>It creates a no-win: approach without signals and risk the creep/entitled label; don’t approach and get called a coward for not forcing the rejection scene.
She's the one who asks him and approaches him about it. At that point no one would call him a creep for answering honestly.
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>>222320498
you wanna kill women? why are chuds so GAY-coded?
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>>222320599
Wow, you’re really giving me a reason to not want to kill you
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>>222320563
He was moving on, but because it’s a fictional movie written against men, a magical device was given to him you moron
And so he did what any man or woman would do in the situation and wished for the person he liked to like him back oh no
All you keep doing is repeatedly doubling down on the fact that, even though he already knew she wasn’t into him, he needs to force a performative rejection in order to play out some kind of feminist, power ritual that changes the outcome and no meaningful fashion
if nothing was going to happen before, why would he need to cause the scene that would ultimately change the outcome in no way but simply just change how she feels for the benefit of her own ego
This is why I’m calling you a feminist
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>>222320674
He was never moving on that's the point he was still obsessed with her the entire time
>All you keep doing is repeatedly doubling down on the fact that, even though he already knew she wasn’t into him
He didn't even know that, and his refusal to be honest ensured he'll never know. There's a reason why it's never stated at any point in the movie. By being a coward he manages to keep things ambiguous to the very end. Even at the end, when he asks her "was being with me really so bad?" she never tells him she hated it, she tells him they've never actually been together for real because she's possessed.
The point of being honest is to clear up misunderstandings like this, if she is into him he wins, if she isn't he gets to move on and forget about it.
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>>222305774
How did they manage to gaslight the audience into thinking this is some kind of an anti-incel masterpiece, when it just shows a BPD woman (who was already BPD before the spell) who is made to love a guy by a spell?

Remember, she is already a wishy-washy "writer" crystal chick who takes drugs and gets into "situationships" i.e. fucks guys all day long and she already treats the guy like shit - she practically says "EWW" when she realizes he might confess to her.

And then the rest of the movie after the spell just shows what kind of a nightmare it actually is to be in a relationship with a woman like that (which is a significant percentage of women).
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>yet another story about unrequited feelings, but with a horror twist

it's clearly a cautionary tale about having oneitis (a very early "redpilled about women" word dating back to the 2000s"). it's cautioning young men against having a "crush" who he only wants, when that feeling isn't returned.

(have not and will not see the movie, but have read the summary.)
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>>222321095
>How did they manage to gaslight the audience
they didn't, twittards managed to gaslight themselves somehow
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>>222306482
The silence in response to questions for proof or specifics is always deafening lol
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>>222305774
Right eye / eye of Ra theory
She's possessed by his cat's soul theory
She became catlike theory
It was her wish theory
He tacitly wished she was his cat theory
She's possessed by a demon theory
It's her, but like she's on drugs / has personality disorder theory (aka veil / nonpossession theory)
She used the OWW theory
He tried committing suicide before the start of the movie theory
The shop guy is satan theory
Branching / parallel universe OWW theory
The OWW didn't actually do anything theory (aka never possessed theory)
They're both possessed theory

Am I missing any?
Which is most likely?
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>>222321804
More:

The stone protected her before she gave it to bear
The title is about his obsession not her obsession
Nikki goes to prison after the end
The idea that if she wasn't such a free spirit the wish would have not had consequences
Nikki ate the other half of the sandwich and that's why she puked
The idea the cat made the wish
Her behavior is the behavior she got the nickname freaky nikki for
Ancient hebrew writing tattoos
The eye roll thing done in the beginning of the movie
The other magical items for sale
What the brick nikki pulled said on it
The witching hour thing
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>>222305774
Western women's brain revolve around trends that maximise social credit score, when they say 'men bad' they don't mean the 30 IQ cannibal warlord from ugubustan that sews little girl's clits up, they mean the short balding dude with glasses from accounting
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That young lady is gonna get an Oscar.
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>>222322325
Very true. But I take solace in the fact that keeping nudes is nowhere near as bad as still talking to a guy you regret fucked but then called rape after the fact to try and save face.
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>>222305774
As a woman, yes that's right
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>>222322353
Maybe stop wanting trash and you’ll stop finding it.
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>mission is to love someone more than anyone else
>goes absolutely apeshit
>didn't even have anyone to love even a little bit in her life
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>>222307345
>>222307538
incel derangement syndrome
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>>222322411
Nikki did have some she clearly felt for, it was Ian, and she was gonna use Bear to make him jealous, and Ian was gonna let it happen because he is a terrible friend, while Sara watched and waited to pick up the broken pieces of Bear and “fix him”, which is it’s own kind of fucked up. Bear even had someone to love, he was just an idiot and was to caught up seeking someone out who never really wanted him like that. It’s a clear failure of the friendship all the way around, but none of them are a full fledged date rapist like Bear. I think that the black and white nature of this movie makes the viewer reflect on the absurdity of the scenario in really humorous and holistic ways.
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>>222305774
More like
>Women are....LE CRAZY!
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>>222321804
>>222322255
Women will be insane schizos before accepting 1 drop of personal responsibility
>BUT THE WISH IS REAAALLLLL
To magic crystal retards, maybe. The wish only being real serves as a narrative device to remove all personal responsibility for her. Had the movie kept the OWW ambiguous I could respect it a little bit. Instead it excuses the worst most toxic BPD behavior and dishonest "because the plot device tee her." Them low IQ/BPD women lap it up like artistic genius.
>its all his fault I'm insane!

Accelerate hoeflation even faster.
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>>222322480
>man doesnt want/can't get laid
>this is an existential threat to women
Lol
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>>222306503
Hold on, who the fuck did he drug? Lmao. Are we really acting like he's charles manson?
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>>222322513
>none of them are a full fledged date rapist like Bear.
You mean the lady on drugs who took him into her house, fucked him while drunk, and the movieexcuses this normal whore behavior with a magical plot device?

The misogynist equivelant would be if bear raped her and domestically abused her, then all the men said "BUT NIKKI USED THE OWW!!! SHES SO EVIL!!!"

No, its toxic behavior framed as justified through a narrative device. Then retards eat it up as groundbreaking art. No. Youre a narccisist with near zero empathy.
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>>222322693
>You see it’s not date rape your honor, I cast a spell-
Make like Bear and hit the chug jug on some Percocets.
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>>222322513
I like the idea that Ian didn't want Bear to ask Nikki out in the bar because she would reject him and he would freak out, killing their night out. And he knew that because Nikki was with Ian
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>>222322718
>That justifies the continued weeks of rape desu, they were kinda mean to him.
Compelling.
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>>222322693
He possibly drugged his cat accidentally or intentionally (depending on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go with that)
He literally drugs himself and dies
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>>222322854
Youre missing the fact the movie justifies real toxic female behavior with a plot device. She was never raped. She literally fucked him to get back at her ex WHICH IS REVEALED IN THE MOVIE.
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>>222322325
Her bf has long hair and tits??
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>>222322878
>he possibly drugged his cat accidentally or intentionally
100% made up
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Obsession is about a BPD whore being a BPD whore. Then a bunch of BPD whores watch the movie and say
>YUO GO GIRRRL NOTHING IS YOUR FAULT EVER!
Very revealing of their own narccisism and lack of empathy. Bear's only character flaw is cowardice. Nikki does much much more. The OWW is a cope for shitty retards to not analyze their own toxic behavior, by thinking it isnt as absurd as portrayed in the movie. It is.

If the OWW was fake the movie has some teeth. With it being confirmed real it proves the movie exits for BPD people to set congradulate over how toxic they are.
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>>222322900
>Justifies toxic behavior
How? By essentially laying out the plot that if ONE of Bear’s friends gave a shit, they would have instantly put their heads together to cure Nikki, but they don’t, and all of them die never giving a shit. It doesn’t justify toxic behavior, it just displays the spectrum of it, and I think it allows people to maybe think back on aspects of that in themselves or personal relationships. Of course they aren’t good people, it’s like saying The Great Gatsby is a bad book because Nick should have been a better friend to Gatsby, it’s retarded childish shit and it’s not what the fucking story is about. The story is about how messy relationships, platonic and romantic are, and to maybe have more realistic expectations for both. If Bear had half a brain, he would have fucked Nikki that same night, and both of them would have been with their crushes by the end of the week.
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>>222322927
????
There are sleeping pills on the floor and the cat is dead with foam on its mouth. It's not a question that the cat died to drugs. Did he accidentally leave the child-proof cap off the drugs? He must have... It was likely an accident but the rabbit hole theory is he left them down so his cat would die and he could get sympathy or whatever
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>>222323004
She did fuck him, to make her ex jealous. Thats why she pulled him into her house after him saying he didn't like her.

>>222323029
Thats pretty good. Maybe they deserve each other LOL.
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>>222322730
>>222322878
Unironically why are you pretending to be retarded?
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>>222323073
>Thats pretty good. Maybe they deserve each other LOL.
That's a weird fuckin response dude. Have you actually seen the movie? Genuinely
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>>222323132
Do you do this every time you are wrong? I hope not.
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>>222323167
Yes a BPD whore is excused of all personal responsibility and real life toxic behavior because of a plot device. Its candy for narccisists and BPDs.
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>>222323244
>projecting your trauma onto a fictional character
I agree, your ex is a bitch and terrible, I’m so sorry, you poor little boy.
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>>222307538
meanwhile women...
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>>222305774
>man buys a rape stick
>this somehow isn't bad
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>>222323418
>he should have known magic was real even though he clearly didn't believe it would be real
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>>222309087
Not surprising. Look at the personality types women like. Shy is not one of them. I'd argue introversion is being bred out of men (by female dating choices) faster than other traits.
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>>222305835
Is the angriest nerd you've ever heard...
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>>222323327
>trauma
>little boy
What trauma? Thanks for self flagging as a BPD narccisist (thats also low IQ)
>>222323440
>and every single thing the magic stick does is plausibly deniable by plot circumstances (other than the billion dollars.) Its self indulgent bad writing for insane women. Also the movie is 45 mins too long.
>>222323488
Women love their low IQ narcissist wife beaters. They are breeding high IQ out faster than shyness.
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Magic being real was the most disappointing part of this flick desu.
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>>222305774

So it took 3 months for the discussion quality to sink to the mariana trench.

Not bad /tv/
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>>222323576
>pretending to not know what words mean because he thinks it will "win" the argument
I know what you are
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>>222323681
I know what they mean, youre a retarded hole who thinks I'm a traumatized child, because its the only way my opinions fit into your retarded world view via dismissal.

BPD retard.
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>>222306348
>Thats why he casted
The past tense of cast is still just cast you illiterate zoomer. Casted is not a word.
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>>222305774
I've finally watched it and the girl was so cute it killed any message the movie could possibly have had. And the message I got from it - it's great to have your own brainwashed sex slave - I've long learned from hentai. You guys really should tone down your constant whining.
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I would eat that mess she left on the floor like the delicacy it was.

This is why I hate Bear. Being a coward before the wish is whatever, but after the wish is clearly working? lean into her love. She's crazy? be crazier. Ian bothers you or her? get rid of him. Sarah's bitch ass calls you at 2 in the morning? just don't go. Wish Nikki's only issue was that Bear didn't really love her back.
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>>222323856
It's not a zoomer, it's an esl. Look at the way he responds to everyone.
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>>222305774
I genuinely don't know what the director's angle was.
I thought it was pretty impartial
Bear is just a pussy, he isn't evil; the only people saying that are misandrists.
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>>222324213
Its a misandrist movie at its core and justifies toxic female behavior to toxic females. Thats the point.
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>>222324257
What toxic behavior is justified?
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>>222319747
>The way people on social media latched onto his character and exaggerated how evil he is meant to be is very strange
People see what they want to see and the modern woman can do no wrong and sees men are evil
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>>222324314
See >>222320111
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>>222324314
The male equivelant of this movie is Nikki uses the one wish willow on bear and he starts raping and beating her, then all the men in the theater jump up in unison and shout
>BEAR DID NOTHING WRONG ITS THE WILLOWS FAULT DUMB HOLE SHOULD HAVE ASKED HIM OUT INSTEAD OF BEING A FEMCEL!!! BEAR IS SUCH A VICTIM HOLY SJIT NIKKI IS AN EVIL RAPIST RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING!
See how fucking stupid the reverse of this movie sounds?
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>>222305774
The monkeys paw wasn't that he "overwrote her free will" it's because he wished for a womanly desire "I want other people to validate and reciprocate my feelings", rather than an opportunity for ultimate self-improvement like a real man would.
The movie isn't "men are bad" it's "men who have the mentality of women are bad"
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>>222324955
delusional nigger.
a woman's signals only appear ambiguous because you cant read social queues. if your parents raised you right, you would be able to tell if a woman is into you within a day of meeting her, its not rocket science. women are pretty damn upfront about it once the initial barrier of entry is down.

and all the rambling about "chad" men is just utter horseshit. "chad" is just a guy who understands how the game works and has learned to be social and likeable. "chad" is not some innate stat you roll at birth, its a skill you learn and cultivate like any other.
men have such a simple goal in the dating market, women dont even care all that much how you look like. what women consider attractive in men barely involves height, abs or jawlines, its unironically 80% personality and likeability, which you absolutely can learn if you weren't a doomer sperg who thinks he's smarter than everybody else
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>>222325083
Shut up dumb hole. Imagine claiming female signalling isnt ambiguous. Only a retarded woman would claim that.
>just be yourself(what I desire)
Whoosh no wonder you can't see how the movie is toxic. You are Nikki and have zero personal responsibility too.

Please tell me how a genderswap of this movie is just as empowering :)
>>222325019
>>222325019
>>222325019
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>>222325019
The male equivalent is Nikki being a 220 pound land whale with 2 biracial kids and shitty tattoos using her one wish willow to trick Bear into paying her bills
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>>222307345
if i spent all my mental energy trying to "get incels to kill themselves" with 0 results, i would probably kill myself out of embarrassment. at that point, you're just arguing that your flavor of being toxic on the internet is better than incels. uhh, ok? you go girl.
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>>222325170
I'm just an unc who tries to make you spit out the blackpill.

women will make it as clear as they possibly can if they have an interest in fucking you. shes unlikely to ask you in your face because thats not socially acceptable, but she will give other signals that are clear, if you can see them.

and women's tastes in men vary WILDLY. what men find attractive in women can be narrowed down to 5 things at most, mostly physical.
what women find attractive are 50, most of them have nothing to do with your physical body.
its impossible to hit the tastes of every single woman as a guy, because women have specific preferences, but you can increase your odds a hundredfold if you work on your character, instead of sperging out over your hairline or abs that women dont even care to begin with.
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>>222325294
Nta, youre wrong. The only thing that matters if you’re trying to pick up chicks at a bar or something is looks.
If you look like a science experiment gone wrong, no bitch is gonna wanna have a full length conversation with you and see your winning personality.
The only instance where looks don’t matter is if someone else is introducing you to her.
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>>222325266
That's just real life.
>>222325294
Women truly have zero self awareness.
>okcupidchart.jpg where men rate 50% of women a 5 and women rate 50% of men a 3 or lower.
You aren't being honest you are exposing how self centered and myopic you are.

Fun fact: I'm above average looks, above average career, great personality, and if the OK cupid chart holds true, I'm a 3-4 at best. I don't need to be henpecked by a retard.
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>>222325083
All these words coping over the fact that woman are too cowardly and conceited to state what they want directly
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>>222325389
>okcupidchart
thanks for proving my point.
when looks is the only information women have available about a guy, they will rate the guy lower than he "objectively" is, exactly because women dont care all that much about looks to begin with.
a man with no personality (e.g. a picture) is not by default attractive to them, they want a vibecheck, see how he behaves in a social setting, if he's likeable, THEN he gets to 8 or 9 if he has a cute face aswell.

if looks of a guy is the only information available to a woman, like on a dating app, she will go for the most handsome dude because at least he has that going for him, because theres no other info available (bios are pointless slop)

meeting women in person is still by far the best way for average men to pick up women, because thats the place where you can play to your actual strengths - being likeable.
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>>222325019
I don't think you know how to read.
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>>222325582
when a woman is upfront about wanting to fuck, you'll call her a whore, because its not you she'll be asking. so why would she?

the well socialized guy will understand her queues, she will have plausible deniability, and you'll still be miserable, wanting one thing (women being more upfront) while still encouraging the exact opposite (punishing her when she is)
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>>222305984
A dudes sperm turns into a girl.
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>>222325739
This. Incels are such losers. It’s natural for the male species to court the female. Happens with every animal. Problem is feminist complete fucked everything up. Make guys feel pervs for asking a girl out. Or looking at them. Or women should go up to guys and ask them out, which is completely unnatural. Bear is a pathetic loser so in animal kingdom he wouldn’t get a female and spread his pathetic dna
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>>222325670
I don't think you're capable of abstract thought.
>>222325657
>wall of COPE
Funny how you ignore the fact its about delusional female distribution of ratings, and not how hot the guys actually are. You'd start sucking and fucking Ron Jeremy if it made you a famous millionaire and all your friends jealous.

>>222325739
>women are direct
>why would women be direct? You'll call us a whore. Its your fault for not picking up on my vague social cues which I already said don't exist

You really are cattle that should be caged for your own safety.
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>>222325983
You're schizophrenic.
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>>222326037
You're literally too stupid to understand your own beliefs. I really hope a reverse of this movie gets made. A shy girl breaks a one wish willow, starts getting beaten and raped, and all the men blame her.
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>>222325880
The whole movement on social media of women not wanting to be approached in public wasn’t just a feminism thing.
It wasn’t meant to empower women at all, but to let men know, as loudly ass possible, to fuck off with any attempts to cold approach someone.
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>>222326086
Which is completely unnatural. You can’t gaslight human nature as hard as they try. Why men and women are more miserable then they’re ever been
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>>222326141
Fun fact: birth control is evil.
>woman dates, marries man, pair bonds
>gets pregnant
>has kid
Birth control tricks the body into thinking its pregnant, which disables their ability to pair bond or love. It also lowers testosterone causing low sex drive, antisocial behavior, and depression. This is all peer reviewed. I bet 100% of feminists are frying their brain on this poison, which is why they are so fill of irrational hatred.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4847696/
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>>222326141
It also didn’t work cuz the people who usually said the kind of shit that triggered them are boomers that don’t pay attention to anything outside their Facebook feed.
The married dude in his 70’s is still gonna blatantly look at her tits and talk about them like she isn’t there, but the guys in their 20’s and 30’s are just gonna keep their heads down from now on in fear of being canceled on Instagram
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>>222326228
Even more, it’s unnatural. Before birth control women couldn’t go off and impale themselves on a thousand cocks. Sex meant a high chance pregnancy.
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>>222326084
see
>>222326037
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>>222326294
>fear of being canceled on Instagram
Funny how social media has become an antisocial shaming mechanism. Like the lawyer caught kissing a girl in a park. Cheating or not why is anyone going outside when a "dongle" joke can ruin your life. Then retarded seals like >>222326406 clap and call you mentally ill for pointing it out.
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>>222306503
domestic abuse? I don't remember Bear hitting anyone
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>>222326086
>The whole movement on social media of women not wanting to be approached in public wasn’t just a feminism thing.
>It wasn’t meant to empower women at all, but to let men know, as loudly ass possible, to fuck off with any attempts to cold approach someone.

The subtlety was lost because it was filtered through the distorting lens of social media:

>If a woman is making signals she doesn't want to be approached, don't shoot your shot, otherwise go for it.
>If you shoot your shot and she turns you down, accept it with dignity, don't chimp out
turned into
>Never approach a woman
>Women don't want to be approached because they're constantly terrified that men will assault them if they get rejected
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>>222321095
>>How did they manage to gaslight the audience into thinking this is some kind of an anti-incel masterpiece, when it just shows a BPD woman (who was already BPD before the spell) who is made to love a guy by a spell?
>
>Remember, she is already a wishy-washy "writer" crystal chick who takes drugs and gets into "situationships" i.e. fucks guys all day long and she already treats the guy like shit - she practically says "EWW" when she realizes he might confess to her.
>
>And then the rest of the movie after the spell just shows what kind of a nightmare it actually is to be in a relationship with a woman like that (which is a significant percentage of women).


>BPD

hallmark of the incel to accuse women of this for not being compliant to his grooming
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>>222329108
Everyone in the movie is bad. Everyone in the movie gets punished.

Everyone watching the movie picks a side and uses it to continue their pointless culture war bullshit.
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>>222325083
WOMAN DETECTED
>leading men on doesn’t exist teehee
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>>222325294
So you’re saying nikki wasn’t attracted to bear
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>>222329208
its your fucking job as a man to weed out women who string you along as soon as possible.
make your intentions clear early on, if she's not up for it, you move the fuck on.
allowing yourself to be strung along for a crumb of pussy destroys the market for everybody else.
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>>222329260
wow another post making excuses for women
shocker
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>>222329221
What is there for her to be attracted to? He’s a loser. He killed his cat because of neglect. Has zero ambition. No confidence. No balls to even man up and tell her how he feels. Pretty much everything women find repulsive
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>>222329221
>So you’re saying nikki wasn’t attracted to bear
No, the film deliberately made it ambiguous. If you knew one way or another, then Bear's subsequent actions should be obvious:
>Dude, she's into you, ask her!
>Don't bother, dude, you never had a shot anyway.

By keeping it ambiguous, the audience can share some of his anxiety.
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>>222320324
>Why didn't she just tell him she's not into him instead of playing games by asking him if he's into her? Why wasn't she just honest instead of putting him on the spot?

If she tells him she's not interested and he wasn't interested to begin with, then she looks like a narcissistic bitch.
If he was secretly pining for her but she brings it up unprompted then she still looks like a bitch.
She was about to quit her job and possibly leave his social orbit. She was giving him a clear shot if he wanted it before he lost his chance.
Maybe she didn't handle it perfectly, but the character is a midwit early 20something. If Bear gets a pass for struggling to navigate through a complicated social situation, so should she.
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>>222320432
>he seemed almost ready to reciprocate right before she got her head bashed in by Nikki
As someone who stupidly got into a relationship with an attractive but bipolar woman, I could relate to this completely.
Dealing with that shit completely reorients your outlook towards potential partners.
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>>222320674
How do you interpret the scene where he and the other girl are in the car right before Nikki kills her?

It almost exactly mirrors Bear's scene with Nikki. She fumbles at trying to confess her attraction to him, he puts the question to her directly ("you mean someone like you" o algo) and then she faces ruin.
Is this advancing some kind of misogynist message?
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>>222306503
zomg i am teevee and I will defend this
actually am just gonna play noita,you kids enjoy spending your summer here wondering if femcels or incels got btfo mad,have fun,I want more threads by Christmas
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>>222305835
I'd rather eat the rotten asshole of a roadkill skunk.
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>>222305774
Well, yeah. I've seen what you freaks post.
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Remake india spiderman obession please. This movie was good but it needs better star power
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>>222329294
so why would he approach her
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>>222329324
so it’s about torturing men
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>>222332529
That’s the biggest problem of this movie. Barker just wanted to make Bear an irredeemable friend zoned loser to the point there was no reason for him to ask. Just a stalker/rapist. Now imagine if made Bear like Gosling character in Blade Runner. You think women be all “ree sexual assault”
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>>222332645
It’s how I always end up proving who a woman is in these threads
They simultaneously admit that she showed no amount of interest towards him that anybody could viably assume meant actual sexual attraction and yet at the same time, despite all the obvious implication that she has no interest towards him, he is scathingly, attacked and branded a coward for not submitting to a double dose of rejection that would simply be enacting a modern feminist power ritual
If the outcome was that they were never going to get together, and that’s what both of them already thought, why would he need to force himself to be rejected?
It’s all about handing the power over to the woman in the situation
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>>222332681
I agree. There was no point in him asking. It was obvious she didn’t like him. If he wasn’t a loser he should’ve known she’s for the streets and moved on but no incel gets revenge movie
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>>222332813
Exactly
You can tell who it is a submissive male or a dishonest woman based on how they interpret this movie
Anybody who says that he needed to talk to her or say yes, when she asked him for fake binary question is just making excuses for women leading on men they never intended to fuck
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>>222332929
This. I’ve been saying it for years. STOP APPROACHING WOMEN! Stop even taking chances on them. If a woman has an interest in you, she’ll approach you. If women aren’t approaching you or if you feel there is any risk or discomfort in talking to a given girl, it’s because you aren’t desirable. So stop. Just stop. You don’t get to participate and that’s okay. Bear needed to just find a way to be okay being alone and undesirable.
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I want to murder skull fuck all you and you entire famililies
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>>222333039
There is nothing more offensive to a modern woman than being approached by a non-chad
They just want to be able to throw out mixed signals and have you chase them for their ego boost
If you actually have the gall to believe that you deserve her it’s tantamount to rape
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>>222333261
Chad doesn’t need to approach.
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>>222332929
Fact is women will give you signals if they’re into you or not. Except autistics won’t ever pick up. It was more than obvious she wasn’t into him. Yet look how she acted around Ian. Look how women react next to Henry Cavill. Bite their lips with giant doe eyes
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>>222333405
That’s my point
Yet women will tell you that bear was problematic for not approaching her, despite her obvious signals of not being attracted
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>>222333039
>STOP APPROACHING WOMEN! Stop even taking chances on them. If a woman has an interest in you, she’ll approach you.
Real advice on 4chan, at this hour? But yeah, I've stressed this to my main dude friend group time and time again. I'm not going to pretend I'm a chad (I think I'm like a decent 5-6, but I clean up nice, know how to dress reasonably well, can prevent spaghetti from leaking from my pockets long enough to dance with women, and I can make them laugh with jokes that aren't at my own expense), but I do get laid from girls that are technically "out of my league" by letting them make the first move. Hell, my probably-high-functioning autistic ass discovered a decently sure-fire method to assess incoming signals--I have CPR / First Aid certifications and a card to prove it. Once she finds out, a lot of the times she'll make a comment or "joke" involving me performing CPR on her. And wouldn't you know it, the women making jokes/comments about me performing mouth-to-mouth on them typically end up having sex with me, it's crazy I know.
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>>222305774
Yeah
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>>222333039
>>222333879
>men should never approach women
Has incels.is lost their fucking minds?
probably 99% of relationships in the real world were started by the man initiating
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>>222333362
yes he does
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These guys do have a pretty funny YouTube channel though
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>>222333926
spoken like an idiot who doesn't "get it" and will never "get it"
go back to Roblox, buddy
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>>222333926
they start by the woman inviting and then the man approaching. but I guess you need an iq above 90 to understand this, and that’s apparently too much to ask of /tv/ posters
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>>222334006
go back to your hugbox forum lmao
I love how when I call you all out you never deny being offsite tourists
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>>222334019
That's too much to ask of the posters on most boards, sadly.
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>>222334019
>waiting for a woman's invite to do what you want
very beta and not Chad
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>>222305774
i look like this and say this
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>>222334493
you know the rules
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>>222334126
>why do women reject me? must be Our Society
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>>222305774
I often come to TV hoping to find this specific meme and chuckle. Gets me every time.
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>>222333926
>>222334019
>>222334028
>noooo you have to keep getting rejected and paying taxes and giving me free attention for nothing in return AIEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>222334126
>do what I say or you’re bad
>>222334571
>why do incels (non chads) approach me? must be entitlement
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It’s really bizarre how much things changed. Where shy guys are written as evil rapist incels now. In the 80s, shit was all about the shy guy getting the girl or at least being sympathetic. Lucas, Can’t Buy Me Love, This movie is basically a horror version of Some Kind of Wonderfull
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>>222305774
Bear the type a nigga to ask a bitch if you’re bothering her when you try to talk to her
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>>222335064
look at the things women say about him, his intuition is accurate
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>>222311266
>Fight Club
>nihilistic movie about a protagonist who “rebels against the system” by forcing innocent families with young children to view pornography against their will
The “point” is that you should stop letting the Jews use your mind as their personal toilet
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>>222305774
it's amazing how much they cleaned up this dumpy tiktok whore.
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>>222328262
whycome nigga didn't clean her up tho
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>>222313867
>>222309087

no you just a projecting faggot. there is nothing male specific about this, you can flip the genders and could have the same movie.
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>>222337212
A guy urinating on the floor would be him asserting dominance though, not uncanny. Honestly all the "spooky" things in the movie are inherently feminine and with the male antagonist would just look petty and silly. And the "watching you sleep" scene would just be reassuring 'cause males do it all the time IRL.
The movie really relies on the love interest being a girl.
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>>222323029
How was he doing it for sympathy? I dont get this theory. He tried not going out and they had to drag him out and specifically ask about his cat for him to tell them about it
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>>222337212
Wut? Never said its gender specific? If anything, I said its not, even when taken as jab against either sex.
>>222333039
Wasn't this the view of Elliot Rodger? He got resentful because no woman aporoached him, and never approached any girl himself.
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>>222337707
I mean she peed her pants and shit on the floor. Also threw up all over herself. Screaming at your partner isnt really comforting either
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>>222305984
Nope. Capitulating to feminism means you aren't a man.
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>>222339497
Is he a woman then?



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