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Why was he here collaborating with the Allies new government and ratting out other Nazis? Shouldn’t he have been in the woods leading guerillas or something
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>>222311523
Goring was a rat who backstabbed his own side. Most of the upper level nazis were.
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>>222311523
drugs
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>>222311600
just like every high up politician today, they always constantly turn and flip on each other whenever there is a scandal to improve their position, trying to get ahead of everything and come out on top

that's just the nature of that kind of person
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>>222311600
True Hitler's final act was to expel like every nazi from the party for trying to turn him in to the Allies for amnesty lol.

They were pathetic.
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nazis died for nothing and he knew it
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>>222311523
his diaper was full
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>>222312678
>look it up
>his chronic GI issues as a result of drugs rotting his colon was real
lmao
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>>222312764
Is "drugs" the new "big boned"?
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>>222311523
Didn't Hitler try to have Goering arrested towards the end of the war?
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>>222312970
yeah but literally nobody listened to Hitler lmao

Goring was trying to turn himher in to the Allies in exchange for amnesty
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>>222312367
>80 years later
>still no palestinian state
Hitler in TATTERS. Killed 60 million europeans for nothing
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>>222311600
fpbp
>>222311666
spbp
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>>222311523
most nazis were cowardly like that
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>>222311523
there is that whole 80% surrender rate thing to consider
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>>222311523
nigga the figurative bounty on his head would be so fucking massive any regular thomas, dieter and jurgen rebels would be turning him over in a fucking second for the chance of some sort of reward or effective get out of jail free card.

its like your local 7/11 thieves hanging out with people who successfully robbed the federal reserve. fucking cletus who steals soda pops to sell to the homeless for cheap isnt going to fucking keep zip if hes hanging out with the crew from HEAT. hes fucking turning them in for the half a million dollar reward.
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>>222311523
Show trial. Operation Paperclip exposed everything was illogical bs.
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>>222311523
The high level Nazis all genuinely believed the Americans and British were their race-brothers and fighting a gentlemanly war as opposed to the total war with the USSR. Himmler tried to sneak away too. They all had the idea that if they just got to a high up Allied general they could explain the whole Holocaust as Heydrich's experiment that got out of hand and Hitler's deterioration and be welcomed with open arms as the leader of a German rump state bin the coming war of the Nordic blooded countries against the Soviets. It was genuinely magical thinking
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This movie was a fucking amazing redpill. I have no idea if it was on purpose but the Nazis come off incredibly sympathetic in it. Crowe as Goring basically wins you over by the time the movie is over, Rami Malek's character has no real answers for when Goring starts to accuse the Americans of hypocrisy for dropping the atomic bombs.

I don't know what Hollywood was thinking making a film like this but it winds up making multiple high-ranking Nazis look very sympathetic.
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Hermann Göring wasn't a true believer, by any means. He had his position because he was a somewhat respected military veteran and officer in the Prussian Empire
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The common theme for historical Nazi's as they are perceived both in the mainstream and by /pol/ alike is that the entire ideology runs on the value of aesthetics. Naturally once the pristine and orderly white man's utopia appears out of reach, the unifying political agenda vanishes and it's every man for himself. Or maybe it was all just made up by kikes projecting on germans, who knows at this point.
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>>222314815
It was not magical thinking. Quite the opposite. They were just germans.
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>>222315085
That's a bit reductive. I'm German, which I'm aware doesn't automatically make me an expert on the matter, but the thing about German identity is: It took us a long time to agree on it and we always tried to make up for it by insisting on it very hard. Germany is an extremely heterogenous country, culturally, linguistically. The language we speak down here in Bavaria doesn't really have much more to with written German than Dutch does.

Whenever I go up to Regensburg I drive past this building

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walhalla_(memorial)

And I'm briefly amused by how peculiar it is to have a memorial modeled after a greek temple and named after the Scandinavian afterlife to serve as a monument to German identity.

So you might say Hitlerism was all aesthethics, but the german identity as a whole is all aesthethics and continues to be. It's where our tendency to look at the rest of the world and think "wouldn't it be nice, if all that was Germany, too." comes from. We have a massive complex about how we never got to be the British Empire.
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>>222314865
It was just to make Americans feel bad for not sending even more thousands to die during a land invasion of Japan which would have been far more brutal and given (((them))) an even greater event to cry fowl about.
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>>222313953
no he wasn't
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>>222314865
It's unironically Crowe's greatest acting, or at least in his top 5
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>>222314177
They were ordered to surrender you fucking retard.
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>>222311523
>>222311600
samefag faggot
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This movie sucks.



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