>>222330968
the world is cruel, poor Howard

He did drink and drive to Jimmy's house though

He mistreated Kim by driving her out of the firm. Other than that though, yeah he was pretty chill.

>>222330968
He was in that chud atlas shrugged movie
He deserved it

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>>222332046
you expected a non-chud atlas shrugged movie? Ayn Rand is basically the proto-chud but with tits, complete with living off of autismbuxx in a basement.

>>222331969
Kim should have been fired for helping Jimmy all the way back when sandpiper started.

Howard's mistake was sticking by the wrong people too long.

>>222330968
John Luke Star Trek quote insert here

>>222330968
Thanks for spoiling it, fag

>>222332162

nigga the show ended 25 years ago

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In university Paige and Kim would hook up while Howie watched

>>222330968
Many such cases

>>222332093
You're literally forced to pay into social security when you're a U.S. citizen. She was just getting the money she paid into it back. That's how it works, dumb dumb.

>>222332288
so if you get the money back what is the point of giving it in the first place?

>>222332193
Never understood why people say this, kids could grow up one day and want to watch something old without spoilers, how awful is it for nobody in the last 20 years not be able to enjoy the 6th sense

>>222330968
what are you talking about dude?
He did coke and fucked whores without paying

>>222332338
ok I agree with you I'm sorry

Saul was a piece of shit and his brother was 100% right about him but this fact triggers redditors for some reason

>>222332326
>giving
They take it.

>>222330968
The entire series is about contrasting people's ethical actions versus their morality versus how they perceive themselves morally, with the whole cast being different points on the diferent axes. Howard was a dick as a person but he was effectively an innocent who was only guilty of running afoul of two scumbags who were in denial and/or guilty about of their nature, and paid with his life.

>>222330968
He paid for Kim's law degree which makes him a simp and therefore wrong

>>222332391
Jimmy was unethical and liked to cut corners, but Chuck was legitimately evil despite wrapping himself in a clock of legitimacy. His NEED to be superior to his brother caused him to hamper any attempt for Jimmy to better himself, to the point that when Jimmy finally did outsmart him once and for all Chuck fucking killed himself. Chuck was right about what Jimmy ended up as, but it's chucks fault he ended up that way in the first place

>>222330968
I hate when games do this

>>222332753
>Howard was a dick as a person
How the fuck was Howard a dick? He had no problem trying to employ Jimmy even if he didnt deserve it. He stuck his neck out for him with Davis and Main. He forgave Kim her loans. Howards only problem was that he didnt listen to based Chuck

>>222330968
Chuck and Howard’s downfall and death is supposed to represent the bygone American way to make room for clownworld

>>222331969
All the bad shit he did to Jimmy or Kim was to please Chuck. Did you watch the show?

>>222333313
killed by women and immature s()ycucks

>>222333313
Gotta have anyone intelligent or capable dead if Breaking Bad is going to be able to happen

>>222333263
Doesn't pay his hoes

>>222332391
Chuck's pride and jealousy ruined everything.

He didn't want Jimmy to change because that would threaten the one thing he felt he had an advantage over jimmy.

>>222334021
>He didn't want Jimmy to change
He wanted him to change. He just knew that he didn't and he was 100% correct. The entire show starts with him committing fraud with the Kellermans.

>here's 10 things you missed about Howard in Better Call Saul

>>222332288
Except she was a welfare queen that got thrown out of the soviet union for being a useless cunt.

I remember hating him so much then they reveal he basically never did anything wrong and was always a good guy, and then later he gets fucking murdered by a crazy cartel guy that doesn’t even know who he is

>>222334284
The whole thing was meant to show just how big of pieces of shit Jimmy and Kim were.

>>222334161
>He wanted him to change.
No he didn't, which is why he did everything he could to make sure that Jimmy was working dogshit public defender cases for no money while also leaning on him for every thing he needed.
Chuck was codependent.

>>222334161
>He wanted him to change.
He literally sabotaged him at every turn and refused to give him credit when he was putting in legit effort to do good and change.

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>>222334402
>seeithing jimmyfag
Chuck didn't lean on Jimmy at all. It was Jimmy who stood in the way of Howard paying Chuck his regular salary. You forget the whole scene where he tears up the check and storms into Howard's meeting? All because HE wanted Chuck to cash out.

Chuck was literally getting Jimmy work and experience. It was Chuck who painstakingly put together the shredded paper that got Sandpiper going. Chuck was even doing Jimmy's wills for him.

If Chuck wanted Jimmy to fail, he would have never helped him at all.

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>>222330968
Better Call Saul is a modern twist on the Morality Play. Tuco and Hector Salamanca are the sin of wrath, personified. Nacho is The Prodigal Son (but instead of returning, he goes away). Chuck is both the sin of Pride, and Justice personified (which is the modern twist, that there is no divine actors in this story, so Justice is just a man, and therefore very weak and biased. So don't expect a just outcome). Schweikart, Clifford Main, and Howard Hamlin are the Angels; tempting the protagonists towards the righteous path. Gustavo Fring is God, but as a man; he strives for absolute Godlike omnipotent control over everything; but since he's just a man, he doesn't have a benevolent purpose behind it all, and therefore, none of his harmful actions are justified. Mike is the hand of God; but because this God is a false and evil God, Mike's actions are evil (and he know it).

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>he hasn't seen the real ending to BCS on the Blu Ray collector's edition boxed set

>>222334860
That would have been a great twist
I wonder how things would have played out.

>>222330968
It a funny world we lived in

>>222330968
He was still evil.

>>222334821
I think Lalo might be a play on Satan. He's got the goatee and mustache for it. He's the primary antagonist of Gus Fring (the false aspiring God). He tempts Jimmy with money, and makes him an Amigo del Cartel.

Despite how evil his actions are, Lalo doesn't seem to embody any of the 7 deadly sins. He's not prideful (he works in the kitchen, and often humbles himself). He's not greedy (he parts with $7M without a thought, and gives back money to illegal immigrants). I don't think that he envies Fring; he is just trying to protect his Salamanca family from Gus. He gets angry in normal ways, not like Tuco or Hector. He's charming and hetero, appreciating Kim's appearance; but we never see him give in to lust. Gluttony? No, he's fit, and we only see him do drugs in moderation. Sloth? Hell no; he works very hard.

He's just evil in an almost flawless and inhuman way. Even Satan is associated with the sin of wrath. Lalo's sin is that he doesn't "love God above all things." He loves his family more than God (real God, not Gus).

>>222335767
Anything would have been better than what we got. How you waste 11/10 acting performances by every member of the cast is beyond meme

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>>222334636
>You've ever had narcolepsy? Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

>>222332162
Bruce Willis is a ghost

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walk with me

he trusted slippin' jimmy

had he avoided him as his sapient brother suggested, both of them would be alive

>>222334860
Better… Fuck… Chuck…

>>222332391
Both were equally loathsome but one was charismatic and funny and the other was an uptight sperg fuck.

Moral of the show is always charisma maxx; -the end- .

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tfw no lawyer with ponytail gf that loves me

>>222338903
eat shit sissy

>>222332046
>Atlas Shrugged
>Chud
Do you retarded leftoids even understand what words mean?
Atlas Shrugged is some cringe lolbert thing. That movie production had Fox News hosts in it for fucks sakes. Do you think us Chuds like Fox News and Libertarianism?

God you people are retarded.

Seasons after Chuck are complete dog shit.
-Dog shit time jump over what people wanted to witness, Jimmy becoming Saul.
-Muh boring as fuck Gus, his lab, feeble Mike, gay pussy Mexican that does nothing, and le eccentric Mexican that you know is going to lose. the ENTIRE mob shit should not have been in the show except brief cameos like Tuco.
-Jimmy and Kim lose all of their good qualities and their entire plot is being incredible assailed to Howard.

>>222332244
holy checked

>>222334593
>no you can’t work at my law firm
>but I am gonna make you think that was Howard’s call
>now bring me the paper and fresh food everyday, I have entitilitis and can’t be around electricity

>>222340286
They lack any grasp of nuance in their daily lives or self awareness how would they in politics?

>>222340343
The gus and beaner plotline is so fucking bad. And the payoff is worse. Lalo might be the most useless and outright worthless character I've seen.
Entertaining at times but a complete drag on the plot.

>>222331832
>He did drink and drive to Jimmy's house though
And didn't run over any mailboxes or children tho
Safely arrived without incident
Like a true consummate professional

>>222340556
Familial and professional obligations are different

>>222337519
It's just dementia, bro

>>222333263
He was a duck, not a dick...

>doesn't pay his prostitutes
>does cocaine during a major settlement
>got into a heated argument with Zeus
he did plenty wrong

>>222340691
Not in this show

>>222341893
frame job
howard innocence

>>222341930
prove it
let me guess, it was all jimmy mcgill? get real.

>>222342023
>it was all jimmy mcgill?
yes. the man SHIT in a moonroof for fucks sake

>>222341893
hiring prostitutes is illegal. If you don't pay them, they aren't prostitutes and so you aren't breaking any laws

>>222330968
His mistake was being good in a world in which everyone eventually breaks bad

>>222340556
>no, you have to work for your prospects, not ride on my name
>it was howard's call
>no one made jimmy bring him shit, hence someone else doing it later
The only fags that defend Jimmy are people that are exactly like him: entitled little bitches that want everything handed to them.

>>222330968
You could look at it as karma for not telling Chuck he's acting like a fucking retard and to not bring family bullshit into the workplace earlier

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Howie bros howie doing?

>>222332162
Fake outrage. Only people who have watched the show would know who that character is.