So spiderman can tank multiple hits from hulk but a bullet does him in? How does powerscaling make any sense in this movie?
>>222335805Are u saying [he died?]
>>222335805Try in your mind to find the difference of what would happen to your body if you were hit by a bludgeoning weapon or a sharp weapon...i.e a knife or sword.
god damn OP you're a fucking idiot
>>222335805pierce dmg v blunt dmg are different variants for a reason you stupid fuck
I feel like saying he got shot by a bullet is dramatically underselling it. He got shot with a 50 BMG round. I'm surprised his torso still existed.
>>222335912Yup him and jean both would have been eviserated. They never explained it but i guess the forcefield she had up slowed the projectile down. Idk.
>>222335912>>222335940realistically they really should have had frank using like an m24 or a sr-25 or something that it would have been possible for him to survive.spidey has a healing factor but he does not have a 50 bmg level healing factor
>>222335835yuh
>>222335839you have no idea how the laws of physics work
>>222335940No he dodged it / moved her it was not a direct hit
>>222336040 lol no he didn't
>>222335805Wanda and Vision, two of the most powerful heroes in the MCU, got their shit pushed in by Thanos' henchmen, who then proceeded to get their shit pushed in by Captain America and Black Widow, a dude on juice and a regular ass foid trained in krav maga or whatever tf, in Infinity War.Ant man, a hero that's just a guy in a suit that changes his size, tanked a missile from one of Thanos spaceships in Endgame. The power scaling has been full retard level for awhile now.
>>222335805>highly effective against swords>highly effective against arrows>melts like butter against a pickWhat the heck?
>Jean Grey enters New York via bus>hears about Spider-Man and how he would help anyone in need, especially if someone's life was in danger>tracks him down and asks him to help her find her sister>he starts questioning her and Jean pulls a "do what I say or I'll mind jack random people and make them kill themselves" power moveI fixed the beginning of the movie.
>>222335805Tank? The moment the true Hulk started punching him Peter almost died lol, he got beyond lucky he could talk no jutsu him into jumping off the building
>>222336133Yes, let’s ask the guy who literally works for the guys that kidnapped your sister for help
>>222335891this isn't a videogame you imbecile
>>222336199he could still zip around and snap it inhibitors on people meanwhile the gun has him lying on the ground squeaking for a few seconds before he has to go to the hospital all night
>>222336213She should have just had sex with him so he would switch sides. He was clearly lonely and desperate.
>>222335805To be fair, he got shot by a 50 cal anti material rifle My poor baby, at least he didn't end up like ultimate Peter.
>>222336216You are right. Comic book movies are usually very gritty and realistic. This is the first movie ever to have characters that can punch through concrete but lightly bruise flesh.
>>222336061irony.I think you may be retarded
>>222336243I am pretty sure you could still walk around and do some stuff after getting beat up by some giga gorilla nigger (provided you're not a fat fuck) but would be on your death bed if he shot you with the draco instead
>>222336261She had to test him first. If he didn’t interfere, she would reward him with sex. If he interfered, she would use the Hulk to rape him
In my theatres, after the spider tracker and Spider-Man will return, the screen said "Miguel". I'm looking at the post credit scene on YouTube and I can't find any other theatre that also said Miguel. Was it just mine? Did anyone else see Miguel?
>>222336346ironyI know you're retarded
>>222336404Miguel will return...
>>222336404Oh well my names Miguel they probably just wanted you to deliver the message to me
>>222335805Spider-Man isnt bullet proof
>>222336489He can literally see into the future but normal ass bullets can kill him. Wouldn't want it to seem too unrealistic
brown adults discussing the realism of super hero movies made to sell toys
>>222336515Are there BND toys? That's old marketing strats. We don't even have slop video game tie-ins to coincide with movie releases anymore.
>>222335805punisher's bullets were laced with insecticide
>>222336306>no you see it was supposed to be bad on purposek. just don't get upset when I tune out over peters hulk fear when hes diagetically a jobber
>>222336129>highly effective against arrowsBodkin tips says hi! :3
>>222336261No. Jean is for ME.
>>222336213He doesn't work FOR them, he works WITH them on occasion. He's clearly fully capable of going against them if the situation calls for it.
>>222336489You're right hes just mindcontrol proof because spiders can't be mindcontrolled.
>>222336643Jean doesn't know that. He constantly sends his villains their way, they are the ones responsible for the clean up when he wrecks stuff up, four owl intensive porpoises he's one of them. Period.
>could beat spiderman
>>222336682>Jean doesn't know that.With as many Damage Control personnel as she controls, she ought to.
>>222336647He can mind control spiders so he has natural defense against weak telepaths.
>>222335805didn't punisher fire a 50 cal?also if you dump a gallon of water on me it'll suck but I'll be fine, focus that gallon into a water jet and not so much
>>222336719They probably think he's on the payroll too desu. DC is probably compartmentalized like Shield. The only ones who know shit are those who NEED to know.
>>222336077No he hugged her and took the bullet for her literally. Whats even funnier is he took it to his back so even if he was invulnerable the impact of that shit would have ruined at least a few discs in his spine and left him a super vegetable. Also if punisher is on the lam why is he driving around in a black van fighting crime in Manhattan of all places? And how does he get the money and contacts to get military ordnance? His van was totalled in first scene and its good as new before movie end like wtf.
>>222335805Marvel is retard kino
>>222336824Punisher steals from the criminals like Omar from The Wire. What I want to know is why he wasn't arrested when he brought Peter to the hospital and stood guard over him. Bad publicity for anyone who would dare?
MJ and Ned shouldn't have been in this movie. I'm surprised they restrained themselves and didn't have MJ get her memories back at least.
>>222335805It doesn't. If Spider-Man was actually 100x stronger than normal, that means every last one of his tissues, including skin and internal organs (brain, too) would have to be 100x more durable than normal, as well. He should be bulletproof, with maybe Deagles being able to bruise him and .50 BMGs possibly able to kill him, especially if it's Deadshot and he hits his eye.Fuck this movie, though.
>>222335805Spider-Man’s body is highly resistant to blunt-force trauma, allowing him to survive massive impacts like being thrown through concrete walls, hit by vehicles, falling from great heights, and taking superhuman punches, but that durability does not translate to piercing attacks—bullets, blades, and other sharp objects can still injure him if they hit.
So if anyone with a sniper rifle is just as potent as the hulk why does anyone fear the hulk? They have WAAAY more range, to the point of being strategically viable, can be standardized and handed off, and are much more economical.
>>222336871Punisher has a kill count in the 100s and half of the NYPD love the guy. Ain't no one fucking with the dude especially if he is acting as Spidey's watch dog who is also a fren of the NYPD(atm).
>>222337001>as potent as the hulkNigga, that shit isn't gonna penetrate The Hulk's skin. It'll annoy him though. He'll probably leap over to your position and press your skull into the dirt with a slap.
>>222336796You can infinitely scale a bullets size and the military even has things like railguns. Why was this never brought up before when they sent the boys in tights to a magic star to meet a drawf that could build a hammer?
>>222336619Did you know in fiction characters are exactly as powerful as the writer needs them to be?
>>222336824...wouldn't that imply the bullets still inside him? or at least was at the time?
>>222336861>The Super-Mediumweights>"This is my strength class, folks."Sure, they say this, but then there's always an * that adds something like "That's because Spidey is always pulling his punches so he doesn't seriously hurt anyone! If Spider-Man didn't care and struck people with his full strength, he could easily knock out Thor or the Hulk with a single punch!"
>>222336892This. I figured we'd get at least one movie without them and then eventually some threat forces them back into Peter's life in Spider-Man 5 or 6.
>>222336861>neymar second from the top>mr fantastic unlistedits so over...
>>222336892>didn't have MJ get her memories back at leastwouldn't that make doctor strange look useless and everything in his universe a joke?
>>222336861Why do the women always talk like massive whores lol? XD
>>222336948His internal organs would all be smashed up or scrambled just from the same hits. Unless those are super durable or plyable in which case the peircing attacks wouldn't matter even if they reach them.
>>222337019I'm not talking about a fight with hulk vs a sniper. I mean why does anyone care about the hulk power when you can just as easily, and more practically kill your enemies for a few hundred bucks?
>>222337035Somehow this standard only seems to exist in the west.
>>222337113So now he's only half useless and everything in his universe is only half a joke. That's... better?
>>222337001Not even a howitzer can beat the hulk. Bullets just bounce right off of him and even if you are at range he will just jump to you at 600 kph obliterate both you and whatever building you are in. Even if you could seriously hurt him there is also his extreme regeneration to account for. if one atom is alive and green he will get back up. Even if you could somehow kill him he will just walk out of hell through a green door anyway.There is a reason the avengers sent him to space once, because they couldn't come up with a way to kill him off permanently.Oh and if that wasn't bad enough all of the above gets amplified exponentially the more pissed off he is.Picrel is basically what if essentially Marvel Satan was able to possess him and he effectively ends all existence.he also got thrown into a black hole once and won
>>222337166Does anyone care about The Hulk aside from Fury? Everyone just wants to monitor the guy because he's a ticking time bomb. I'm surprised they haven't banished him to an isolated island.
>>222337085I thought they would just drop them entirely. Like what was the point of the last two movies? Spiderman is back to start, only now he has organic webs, and his other powers are...just the same but more...they could have just implied he gets stronger over time through training. Like other than that aunt may dies but they chose to make her young instead of dying from old age. Also its just the uncle ben storyline except worse. Feels like theres no point to these movies now.
>>222337200Ok I'll admit I never watched the movie but wasn't hulk created in a lab and then hunted down by the whole military?
>>222337198Jobs to base martial artist Thanks
>>222337188We don't really know what the ned scene meant and they drop like half the stingers anyway. Barely canon.
>>222335805don't you understand Hulk would never hit him hard enough to kill him. Hulk is angry but he's not psychotic
>>222337253yeah that's MCU hulk for you. Actually the MCU did basically everyone dirty. We will be lucky if Joe Fixit even shows up at all.
>>222337198In this movie at least punishers basic bitch gun seemed to stun him enough. Don't care if it doesn't translate to permanent damage. Any coordinated group of officers could easily manipulate him with these rules.
>>222337284>Joe FixitDon't give them any ideas. You know what they did to Skaar.
>>222337184What a joke. Do you think Dragonball has consistent power levels? Characters being exactly as strong as they need to be is a Shonen trope
bannerbros...
>>222337419LOL
>>222337198Everyone knows that current comic hulk can and did at one point kill god but that is completely irrelevant to mcu hulk's power level.
>>222337249He was. I don't think anyone knows how to kill the damn thing.>>222337229They also healed Hulk's Endgame arm, the cowards. Barely anything matters in these movies, it's following ye old comic/tv show trope of returning to status quo.
>>222337378Dragonball has some of the most consistent powerlevels. You must be thinking of fairy tail or inuyasha some shit.
>>222337419>>222337431classic punisher comics either making frank a useless bum or ignoring everything about another character so that frank can off them.
>>222337448Hard to believe when some series only have four or five installments at the most. At least comic books were going on for like fifty years.
>>222337275hes literally mentally retarded
>>222337431meanwhile sunshine joe: *gets up from laughing while having half of his head is blown off*: Hey Buster that wasn't real nice of yuh!
>>222337433>I can kill a greater than existance being because I have big muscles I hate comic book slop
>>2223374721) Would his adamantium skeleton just be pushed down into the ground? 2) Would his memories regenerate along with his brain?
>>222337472Isn't he killable in the mcu too? I remember deadpool complaining about that but don't know what rules were broken.
>>222335805>stress = Force / surface area>Hulk force / big hulk hand surface contact area = less stress (pain not much for pietro parkero)>.50 Cal force / very small .50cal bullet diameter = very high stress (pain high for pietro parkero)
>>2223358051. He is very, very strong2. He is not bulletproofThis is like that time Captain America jumped out of a 20th floor window and was briefly slowed by the impact with the ground, and later in the movie Bucky just shot him with a Glock
>>222337517Sounds based as fuck. Sissy boys need not apply.
where does she scale in terms of girl power
>>222337600People like this call everything 'lovecraftian' and think he invented anything
>>222335805>How does powerscaling make any sense in this movie?Many things don't make an6 sense in this movie.
>>222336268I wonder of they killed him in the original cut to introduce Miles, but chickened out due to poor reactions. There was talk of redoing the ending. Hell, they took out the whole Jackal plot with Kieth David.
>>222337718It definitely felt like a dead ending. Punisher would have learned his lesson about killing. And jean grey would have learned to be a good girl and sacrifice herself for people who hated her like spidey did for her. Also iirc they said they kinda don't want to do these movies anymore.
>>222336861>Piotr is not a heavyweightbullshit
>>222336861>Blackbolt's dialogkek
>>222336861wait cap is down there?
>>222336861>Captain America and Wolverine in the lowest possible tier???
>>222336085He does in the comic. He takes a bullet for captain America and dies. Comics and capeshit are retarded.
>>222337459Dragonball powerscaling goes out the window when Vegeta and Nappa arrive and plant 5 Saibamen that are all as powerful as Raditz making him obsolete as a soldier in the first place. Especially when the Z Fighters, who are all long time training martial artists, suddenly are able to defeat them after training for a year (they have been consistently training for years before this, don’t ask why they had low power levels before this). Every arc has these moments, be they inconsistent Zenkai boosts on Namek, Piccolo fusing with Kami and being stronger than SSJ Goku and Vegeta, the Androids just being built stronger than Frieza, the kids fusing and suddenly getting ssj3. That’s without getting into Super or GT and the characters in that having bizarre power jumps
>>222336129Arrows can pierce plate
>>222336216>this isn't a videogame you imbecileIt's a capeshit movie, it's about the same.
>>222337472So this is where that GONNA GONNA GONNA The Boys thing came from?
>>222336213>guy who literally works for the guys that kidnapped your sister for helpWhere would she get this information? The public only see Spider-Man as a friendly neighborhood super hero not an agent of the DODC. Also even if she doesn't trust Spider-Man she can always threaten to kill civilians to make him do her bidding.
>>222337897>>222337921He was super buffed in the MCU>>222336626>>222337956No they don't
>>222337921its strength only not other powers
>>222335805The real question is, how the fuck is Scary Jane smarter than Peter Parker
>>222337947>Androids just being built stronger than Friezawhats wrong with this?
>>222338227she's not, she went to mit while peter is self-taught
>>222338227Is she? He just didn't know how her powers work and made snap decisions. He clearly got her with no scheme when she was distracted (vs the director when he inhibited her.)
>>222338262I think anon means MJ, not Jean.
>>222338227MJ? She's not smarter than him, necessarily, she just has fresh eyes on the problem, and also isn't juggling a supervillain and headaches and crushing isolation. Peter's already accounted for her first 2 suggestions for what's wrong anyway. She's also just very smart this adaptation.
>>222336552Spiders aren’t insects tho
>>222338407That's why it didn't kill him, just greviously wound.
>>222338306Oh yea that was kinda some bullshit. No one learns anything at college lol
>>222338407Insectacide still works on them. Even 'works' on humans its just too low dose for most items at least.
>>222335805surface of impactmy punch doesn't go through youthe same force but applied in something the size of a bullet does
I hope Zendaya MJ dies or "disappears" like in some comics storylines
>>222338473I feel like the hulk probably punches harder than at least 10 bullets. Maybe more. That more than makes up for it.
I thought spidey was bullet resistant though not fully bulletproof. You’re telling me a .380 point blank kills him? lmao
The bullet did kill him. The movie explicitly says Jean Grey kept him alive.
>>222338473Yea but the force still passes through his whole body. Same problem with superman catching a falling girl.
>>222338567That was a dream.
>>222338530He's tougher than a normal human and something like 9 mm point blank can penetrate but not do much because it gets stopped by muscles, he isn't sniper bullet bulletproof. He also has healing factor but is nowhere Wolverine level, he can heal a nasty fracture in a week and stab wounds in 2 days for exampleHe usually is more durable thanks to the mix of agility, spidersense and toughness, he's able to turn deadly shots into grazes or near misses
>>222338610No it wasn't. She used her powers to keep his body from death's door, saving his life.
>>222335805he does whatever a spider can
>>222335805>So spiderman can tank multiple hits from hulk but a bullet does him in? yeahhttps://youtu.be/7R9gbSQenqg?t=65https://youtu.be/PCn1uAs_0VQ?t=23Spider-Man has comic book durability, which basically means he can tank being hit by a train or having a building fall on him, but a bullet or sword will cut through his skin like butter. It's the same shit with Wonder Woman, who can tank being thrown through a skyscraper, but a bullet will pierce through her skin. Stupid? Yeah. But it's a comic book storyline so realism shouldn't be expected.
>>222337184>Somehow this standard only seems to exist in the west.Literally 99.9% of Shonen and Seinen anime and manga have the exact same issue.Whether it be Naruto, Bleach, Berserk, Chainsawman, Jujutsu Kaisen, Hunter x Hunter, Dragon Ball etc. the durability of characters flucatates based on what will make for the best fight scene.You'll have characters slamming each other through concrete, buildings, cars etc. and there won't be a scratch on them. But pull out a sword? Then you can easily draw blood and grievously injure them. You can drop a bomb on these characters and they'll be fine aside from a few cosmetic scratches. But pull out a gun or arrow? They'll fucking die if they don't dodge that shit.
>>222338751spiders don't die to bullets
Why didn't he dodge the bullet? His superpowers were at full strength
>>222338644spidey shmup?
>>222337448>They also healed Hulk's Endgame arm, the cowards.Why tf wouldn't his arm heal? And why tf especially wouldn't Hulk's arm heal from anything in under a fucking minute?
>>222338644Sounds like he should wear body armour, with his strength and stamina it would be like wearing a t shirt to him
>>222338819>Why didn't he dodge the bullet? His superpowers were at full strengthBecause he wanted to save Jean Grey. There was no time for Spider-Man to move Jean out the way AND dodge the bullet, so he choose to sacrifice himself so that Jean could live.
>>222338872The glove was cosmic shit, hulk’s gamma ray warranty doesn’t cover that
>>222338884Well she’s a psycho menace so he shouldn’t have
>>222338799Don't lump naruto in with these other chumps. I'll defend pretty much any incongruity you can throw at me. There are only a few real times when some survivability literally has no in universe explination. Naurto vs sasuke fight being one of em. But most the time its consistent especially for a series that broad and long running thats written by "one guy." Also most the fights in naruto have natrual blocks and ukemi so these direct hits or slams are few and far between.
>>222338905Peter believed he could change her, and he did. He also wasn't going to let her die, when he'd just opened his heart to her and told her that she could count on him, even if she had no one else to rely on.
>>222338877his agility depends on having a suit that allows him the most free movement possible. But he adapts the costume depending of the circumstances, he has a bulletproof more armored one
>>222337001Yes. The hulk is a non-threat in the MCU he can be taken out by early iron man and jobbed quicker to Thanos than spiderman or Captain America did
>>222337718>>222337738No fucking way they'll kill Holland, his movies have consistently made 1 billion plus (for some fucking reason I add. Like I get the one with the other spidemen, but the rest of them?). Miles won't be introduced until they can't squeeze more out of him.
>>222338894That's bullshit, but I believe that's what the writers want people to believe.Writers stupid.Writers dumb.Writers no good.
>>222338912>believed>didspidey never misses lmao
>>222338926ouch
>>222338926>Hulk one-hits a 40,000-ton leviathan>Thanos beats Hulk>but Thanos also strains to lift Hulk into the air for a rassler slamPeople unironically think Infinity War is kino.>>222336861This is what all of Marvel is, kino for retards.
>>222338947Well thats probably why they chickened out but I agree that the writing really looked like it was going there.
>>222335912Wait super heroes can just get killed by a regular sniper rifle? Are all the fights that happen in movies and comics Just larp then?
>>222338912man peter should also saved all the innocent people she killed and not just MJ. Mercy to criminals is punishment to victims
>>222338983I am retarded yet do not find MCU to be kino
>>222338983Comic bookncrossovers are just real dumb. Like its amazing to me how so many movies (that are considered shit btw) figured out the formula in an enjoyable way. Just give everyone their own role for what their good at (or best suited for considering the compatarive advantage.) Like even fast and furious does this, but every single heist movie too. Of course every thing has to devolve into punching eachother slop so you have some comics even with batman going hands on with darkseid. Sigh.
>>222339020Peter wanted to save a fellow member of the mutant aristocracy, the lives of peasants cannot concern him
>>222339013p much
>>222339020No. She deserves to be happy with her internet famous white bf.
>>222339013>regular.50 cal is not regular, also no, not all superheroes get domed by that. Sentry and Hulk probably only feel an ich. Ironman has tanked (though not sustained) a M61 vulcan rotary cannon which outperforms Frank's sniper rifle. I feel Thor and Vision would probably be fineSpiderman is superhumanly thougher, but on the low end of superhuman. Like how Beast is superhumanly strong but can only lift like 1-2 ton above head
>>222336261The trouble with this is that she has a weird nose. You might not notice it until it's pointed out to you, like now, but when you do you won't be able to unsee it whenever she has a close up. Imagine that; you think you're pounding fine quality red meat, but all of a sudden you look her in the eye and see the nose right there, your nob would go flacid and that would literally be the only thing on your mind. You wouldn't be ableto have sex, it would be like trying to thread a rope though a railway tunnel.
>>222338947Idk why this would surprise you actually. I personally enjoyed all of them. Every time one ends I feel like I immediately want to start the next one. It feels like it sorta has a comfy tv show vibe.
>>222338985It would never have been in consideration for a second, Feige has said a whole bunch of times that Miles will come in the future but he's completely off limits to live action until at least the Spiderverse trilogy finishesAlso he doesn't require dead Peter, they did that in Miles original comic but he's been in more things with living Pete than dead at this point.
>>222339020>man peter should also saved all the innocent people she killedYeah, but those civilians were hot girls like Jean was. You better get used to this btw. Jean and her fellow mutants are all war criminals that would make Hitler and Stalin blush. Pic related is Jean destroying a planet with 5 billion people on it because she was hungry
>>222339078don't people 360 no scope with that shit? doesn't seem like it'd be that weird to lug around
>>222339104That's dark phoenix, the BND Jean doesn't even have the excuse of being possessed by the universal manifestation of hunger
>>222339098I didn't think they would pull in miles. I thought it would be jean. Kinda like how peter was tonys successor. Well at least until they got desperate for money.
>>222339013>Wait super heroes can just get killed by a regular sniper rifle?Every single super hero in comics is "peak human" (i.e. plot armor), which means they're fast enough to dodge bullets at point blank range. And when I say every hero, I mean every hero, whether that be Batman who trained with ninja for a decade to get to that level. Or a literal child still in highschool like Barbara Gordon (Batgirl) or Tim Drake (Robin).
fuck Miles, he's already in the shitty animation movies leave that overpowered self insert there
>>222338983MCU's powerhouses all feel fucking weak, they need to start moving like dbz characters to drive the point. Sometimes they do like when Thanos cracked a moon but then they immediately forget he can do that
>>222338078It was public knowledge that SM would apprehend villains and that damage control would take them away. Even if she knew that SM wasn’t aware of the human experiments, she had no proofs to convince him with. And if she tried to appeal to his sense of justice (or blackmail) to help her, it would carry alot of risks because SM would just learn more about her
>>222335805Penetration. Hulks fists are gigantic and have a much larger surface area. But really, Peter has some ridiculous feats in the comics.
>>222339158Goku getting shot with lazor pistols and getting his hand crushed by an elephant while Super Saiyan is dumber than anything in the MCU.And the zipping around is just to cheap out on animation. 10 yr old thought it was cool but it's just Nips being stingy.
Doesn't Hulk smash him over the ribs in that webm that gets posted? I'm assuming he didn't miss and Spidey should be dead or at least immobilized to some degree.
>>222339179Who are the other new york heros?
>>222339013Most super heroes just have tougher muscles/bones that allow them to take blows. They don’t have tougher organs because of this
>>222339194tbf none of that is actually canon
>>222338983>People unironically think Infinity War is kino.Yeah, its capeKINO
>>222339205spider thorax sorry
>>222339205Hulk beats the fucking shit out of him. He effectively does the Loki thing to him at one point so yeah, it's safe to say some of his ribs are destroyed.
>>222335805>spidey gets shot by a sniper rifle>goes into coma for two weeks>constant psychic CPR to not die>this dude gets shot by a sniper rifle>wakes up a few hours later>beats up a platoon of assassins afterwardsis daredevil stronger than spidermam
>>222339309>goes into coma for two weeksIt was one night of surgery.
>>222339309was the same sniper rifle?Barrett M82 can literally split a man in two if you hit the torso
>>222339222The Defenders. All street level for the most t part but they get their time to become ridiculously broken in Cosmic events. Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Ironfirst, Fantastic Four, Captain America, Daredevil, Punisher, Moon Girl, Moon Knight, and fucking Iron Man.
>Be a famous superhero in NYC>Gets shot>America has a gun problem
>>222339356>Be a famous superhero in NYCIt happens to Spider-Man a surprising amount too. In Ultimate Spider-Man, Peter's death arc started with him getting shot in the torso trying to save Captain America. Because of Peter's durability and healing factor, he was able to hold on for the rest of the day, until half of his rogue gallery showed up to his house and beat him to death.
>>222339345Oh. I forgot Doctor Strange.
>>222339345>Jessica Jonesmaybe she would help if she needed someone to suck and fuck the gaurds but otherwise I'm not sure shes a good pick
>>222339402at least he has people show up at his house...
>>222339448She had a crush on Peter and went to high school with him if I recall. The point is she is NYC based.
>>222339402what a retarded frame. spidey would never get shot like that, he would've contorted himself into some improvised acrobatic pose to dodge the bullet while pushing cap away. not that you can't contrive a way for spidey to get shot, but this sure isn't it.
>>222339345So whats the deal with the fantastic 4? Are they in this universe and operational at this point in time?
>>222339473In the comics I mean. Obviously she is a coal burning hag in the MCU.
>>222339484I have no idea.
>>222337312That was Jean possessing him in an in between state so it's possible it hurt enough to break her concentration
>>222339484>Are they in this universeDifferent universe>operational at this point in time?Yeah, they're operational, but their gimmick so far is that they're the only heroes in their universe.
>>222336216Ah yes, it's capeshit, it's serious business
>>222336696>Spiderman vs Wickkino
>>222339248Yeah, Spidey's strong but not that durable that he can survive a beating from the Hulk even if it's basedboy Hulk. It's his movie but come on man.
>>222335891>pierce dmg v blunt dmg are different variants for a reason you stupid fuckIt's also treated differently by doctors dipshit, video games didn't make everything up by themselves they drew inspiration from real things like how doctors have to treat damaged tissue. I swear zoomers are the stupidest generation of all time.
>>222336014He can lift skyscrapers, I think his skin is tough enough
>>222339643It's bad writing bro. A literal building falls on Peter in the first movie and he's fine. Then in Far From Home, a full blown train hits him at full speed and Peter is fine. Then in Brave New Day, he survives being ragdolled by the fucking Hulk. Ya know the guy who can shatter skyscrapers with a single punch. And guess what? Peter is fine. But a bullet? AAIEEEE IM DYING ITS FUCKING OVER
>>222336014Jean did her magic vodoo shit as well ok him so that supposedly helped
>>222339710what did she do though? I imagine keep blood inside the vessels, crp so the lungs keep oxygenating and the heart keeps pumping right?
>>222338489I figured the blonde neighbor lady was Gwen Stacy
>>222337198All that because of some gamma radiation lmao
>>222339702You dont get it, guns are bad.If only we could ban all guns then spiderman could beat up the evil progun villains and the world would be a better place.
>>222339710>ok himdisregard>>222339725It was not explained but probably that with tissue reconstruction since wasnt paralyzed
>>222339768*since hefuck
>>222335805>So kevlar can tank multiple hits from a gun but a knife does it in?Fucking retard.
>>222339239>should've gone for the head.>snapkino
>>222335805Hulk was "nerfed" by having like a few tons of debris hanging off him when he he hit spidey
>>222339630I mean is hulk stronger than rhino or juggernaut? Never could distinguish between these big brutes strengthwise
>>222335805You don't need to spam a retarded question to talk about the numerous plot holes in this movie. An adult could understand that piercing and blunt damage are two different things.
>>222339725>>222339710All she did was was standard breathing exercises which prevents shock or circulatory shutdown. Then he was just taken to the hospital. Thats it its mostly all healing factor.
>>222336129>>melts like butter against a pickMaybe in your dogshit fantasy tv franchise.
>>222339735That chick got cucked so hard lmao. but in all seriousness though no woman would make the first move on a werido loner like pete
>>222339922he had a few good shots before that
>>222335912>>222335912he wasn't eviscerated because he is strong enough to take hits from the hulk.
>>222340030And you don't need to spam the same retarded answer in the whole thread everyone knows we're talking about the DEGREE of blunt damage vs the degree of this piercing damage
>>222340084Also we need to remember that this hulk is a sissy jobber who already jobbed to pre-nano tech iron man
>>222339643Spidey can theoretically lift buildings and we didn't exactly see the true extent of his new powers aside from with The Hand.>>222340016Hulk would absolutely destroy Rhino. As for Juggernaut, Hulk would certainly win, but only after Hulk keeps getting frustrated with Juggernaut not dying. It take him a while but he will eventually get to the point he can just throw Juggernaut into fucking space.
>>222340108Is there anyone in these movies who can't beatup the hulk? I feel like he just exists to be a big hitbox.
>>222339696Thats fucking ridiculous too. Spiderman has proportional spider strength, hes about as strong as about 16 humans put together. Thats strong but nowhere near the level of power creap we've seen in these movies. He held a multi-ton ship together, stopped a runaway train with his feet. Just ridiculous Hulk level shit.
>>222340137rhinos that weak huh? could he beat the thing?
>>222340108all the big hitters are nerfed compared to the comics to be closer to iron man.
>>222340150should've got bitten by an ant
>>222340146>a big green hitbox you say?
>>222340167Iron man was also gigabuffed since he had the most charismatic actor and a movie that saved the genre. Seriously building a robot hand that could hold all the stones was kinda bullshit.
>>222340016>I mean is hulk stronger than rhino or juggernaut?Hulk is strongest there is.
>>222340186yeah, basically they built the MCU power levels around iron man
>>222340159Rhino is a street tier villain but not as high as say Kingpin. Hulk can just jump through an entire city if he wanted to. Rhino could run through a few walls.
>>222340186>Seriously building a robot hand that could hold all the stones was kinda bullshit.At least Bruce and Rocket were also involved in that, and it wasn't just Tony saying "JARVIS, invent Infinity Gauntlet."
>>222340171and he should've been a hot black woman. imagine if someone made a comic about that, haha.
>>222340186That seemed fair to me since using it still maimed Hulk, and turned a human using it from "instant death" into "swift death"
>>222340224>"JARVIS, invent Infinity Gauntlet."at this point I was he didwould have been so funny with the vibe coding meme especially if that movie came out a few years later
>>222340229that its quite the lumbar path
>>222340224Thor was there as well, and may have provided input since intergalactic weapons are kind of his domain.
>>222336199What actually happened there? Was he just "sunsetting" him as Widow does?Did Hulk recognise Spiderman or something?
>>222340577Technically you're correct, but do you really think anyone was listening to anything Thor had to say during Endgame? Thor said "Being a god who has survived the output of a star, I might be the best choice to do our Snap" and Rhodey just says "lol but you fat."
>>222340614The movie isn't as direct about it, but in the comics, that was an explicit thing
I'm sick on MCU movies letting villains get away with evil shit because their women. They made Scarlet Witch out to be a victim after she mind raped and held hostage an entire town of people and now they're making Jean a victim.
>>222340647that was true and based
>>222339402>until half of his rogue gallery showed up to his house and beat him to death.why would they know where he lives?
>>222340647He was very out of it in that movie, but input is still input.
>>222340673Huh? So is hulk like magic or something? Or is this lovable retard plot powers?
They should have replaced the Latina cop with Mile’s dad and killed Peter at the end so we could have Miles replace him.
>>222340673Why would they not explain it lol?
>>222340706they backtraced it
>>222340679Jean Grey IS a victim. Why the fuck would you side with Damage Control (DC, get it?)? The movie is meta about not trusting the government and to drain the swamp now.
>>222340717nta, but I dunno, it kinda makes sense. If Bruce was the active half when the spell was cast, then Hulk didn't "exist" at the time to be affected by it.
>>222340745nta I fully support her killing or fighting any of the DC guys. But she also endangered other civilians like with the tank. Also she was just fucking around with civilians lives just to toy with peter. Whatever happened to the guy in the chopper? Probably had a heart attack.
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>>222340773I'd endanger civilians driving a tank too. Shit is fun as fuck to drive.
>>222337921Cap as originally designed is just a super soldier with "Olympian" strength, endurance, and so on. You go back and look at all the trading cards and they'll use a same description, all the X-Men are Olympians. Then you have Spider-Man and Mr Fantastic who were science/gadget heroes before punching heroes. The whole tier thing is just nonsense anyway, as Stan Lee once said, "The guy that's winning the fight is who the writer wants to win."
>>222340828Yeah, you could roughly say that Cap used to basically be Cyclops except with a shield instead of eye-beamsCap in the movies is more based on the Ultimate Universe Cap who had the unambiguous superhuman strength and endurance
>>222340908But what are his thoughts about France?
>>222340828well then isn't captain america kinda lame?
>>222340773you run into the main issue being, "How do you give Jean consequences?" and the reality is you can't. If damage control can't stop her then what would? You arrest her and she just breaks out again killing even more people in the process and she's just a kid so they won't kill her off.
>>222340960As memorable as the France thing is I think it's much funnier those books literally had a part where someone shames Cap for being an out of touch boomer for not thinking incest is normal
>>222340673Yeah but they've never shown Hulk and Spider man interacting at any point in the mcu prior to this movie let alone Banner and Parker.
>>222341009Shes about the same age as peter so can be tried as an adult. She can have her powers inhibited with the device.
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>>222341102Isn't that good worldbuilding though? Why would they never have met?
>>222341035>be cap>beat the ass of wasps abusive husband for ripping her wings off >start dating wasp>take issue with her dressing like a whore>wasp goes back to a abusive husbandwomen, amirite
>>222341121>Isn't that good worldbuilding though? explain>Why would they never have met?ask the writers of the other movies because there aren't any scenes of hulk and spiderman talking. plus banner was professor hulk who didn't have the hulk personality at the time, so how would hulk remember him?
Same thing happened with Goku.
>>222341290Like the characters having lives and continuity outside the plot?
>>222341290>plus banner was professor hulk who didn't have the hulk personality at the time, so how would hulk remember him?Professor Hulk is still Hulk. The whole thing about Professor Hulk is that it's both Bruce and Hulk "driving."
>>222336133>Jean>ever making good choices and not being a homicidal sociopath/psycho bitch
>>222341310goku gets shot with a bullet? I thought he would eat them before even getting kamehameha
>>222341642Just another way they nerf Goku and made him a retard in Superhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbdCt9ZEhbE
>>222335805Blunt trauma vs piercing damage, come on.
>>222335912>>222335940>>222336014video of a 50BMG hitting a dummy if you want to see something neat:https://youtu.be/fUOh7a0cdUw?t=92although Frank was shooting from like a mile away so the bullet would have lost a ton of speed by then.>>222336508>He can literally see into the futurethat's why he got shot wasn't it? His Peter Tingle told him that Jean was about to be shot, so he saved her but got himself shot in the process
>>222337042This is another ball of wax. I assumed the bullet didn't even go in, it just hits him very hard as his skin itself is invulnerable but the sheer inpact would completely throw his cervical disks out of wack. Even if they can all heal who is to say they heal correctly and in the right place. Either way its a catch 22 because whether the bullet went in or not how could any medical instruments actually operate on spiderman. Fucker just walked off an elephant guy how is a weak normie with a scalpel gonna cut him open?
>>222338910Naruto has some ridiculous inconsistencies. Like Madara tanking Hirudora, Night Guy and Naruto's S6P Lava Rasenshuriken but then getting stabbed by regular katana and cut in half with Sasuke's Lightning Sword. Naruto also cuts off Kaguya's arm with his hand at some point.
>>222341712ah well thats not even the same writer, this is within the same movie
>>222341754>blunt damage is harmless, actually
>>222336759>weak telepath>referring to the omega level goddess of brain destruction
>>222340779I can barely follow the dialogue and emotions in this page. Why are comics like this?
Anyone got more of her?
>>222338983That intro scene was retarded (Thor off-screened after receiving power-ups out the ass in Ragnarok, Heimdall and Loki not teleporting everyone sooner etc) and Infinity War IS kino, yes. Both things can be true.
>>222336346Hulk can punch through tanks, you're the fucking retard.
>>222341634>being a homicidal sociopath/psycho bitchNever happened btw.
>>222342020He wasn't bitten by a super-spider so he doesn't have the durability of one.
>>222335912>>222335940>>222336014fucking boomers need to kill themselves already
>>222342285idk the guy who got hit by a taxi might disagree with you there.Also when she mind-raped MJ so she could sexually assault MJ and Peter
>>222337921Cap makes more sense when you think of him as just a really strong and competent guy with impeccable luckHe’s not the strongest, but as long as he’s still standing, he’s gonna win.
>>222342285she is very sociopathic/psychotic
>>222337921Captain America is carried by his combat training and willpower, otherwise he is a normal human pumped up with super-steroidsWolverine only survives encounters thanks to the OP healing factor
>>222339013It's a .50 cal retard
>>222342209no idea who this is
>>222342615He's spiderman you dumb fucking indian
>>222342355cry harder pussy bitch
>>222340706Ultimate Spider-man stayed in highschool for his whole storyline, he never moved around New York like his 616 counterpart. But yeah it was dumb as fuck that Ultimate SHIELD let him hang out to dry.
>>222342709>the gun should have done more damage :(try shooting yourself and see what it does for research. you stupid fucking old man
>>222342027Baby Jean was still weak until they put her in that room.
>>222342826that gawt dang room? I hate how Jean was censored in that scene
>>222336861who's the guy on top who wants to be an actor?And who's the cutie Amazon in the second row?
>>222342020>use Yandex to reverse image searchGoddamn. Yandex ain't fucking around. It's cool that it found the source though. I really thought anon was kidding. It really is just a replica for explosive ordinance training. Huh.
>>222335912The hulk is able to eviscerate tanks. A .50 cal wouldnt even able to scratch a tank. Ifspiderman can take hit from the hulk, a .50 cal shouldn't be able to hurt him.
>>222342885First one is WondermanSecond I think is called Thundra
>>222342917Hulk was unironically holding back because he knew who peter was even though banner didn't. (Hulk has been censored because masculine rage is bad)
>>222342693How am I Indian for espousing the stopping potential and destructive ability of a .50 cal?
>>222340706Why captain america didn't bring him to the hospital ? Dude saved his life
>>222343154Punisher already admitted in text messages he did it, the reason there was no exit wound is because Spiderman has man of steel density bones
>>222339013Depends entirely on the hero. A .50 cal isn't enough to damage, say, Colossus.
>>222343345True, but there's always a bigger fishhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jVKgPe5rcE
>>222341107if anything, this just shows Wasp is a fucked up slutglad that she got eaten
Anyone notice how spidey was like "what ur doing is unforgivable you made me kiss mutty jane! I'm gonna kick your ass"to"WAIT I GIVE UP DONT HURT MUTTY!"to"jane if you take over the hulk hes gonna kill everyone, i'll never forgive you for this!"to"I'm ur bestie jean! AIEEE SNIPER BULLET"in like 40 minutes?The inconsistent characterization of spider-man in this movie was really giving me whiplash
>>222343189It's been ages but I feel like that was a problem created by book crossovers and different writers just fucking things upLike one book had Cap helping him, but then another instantly threw him into another fight still wounded specifically for him to die, something along those lines
>>222342689The coal burner chick who was interested in Peter because they lived on the same floor
>>222338884he could just THWIP and catch the bullet in a web though
>>222343683you are mentally ill, which is ironic because that's what this movie was made for. Peter is bipolar/borderline with split personalities, Jean is a sociopath/psychopath. It actually does make sense if you weren't too retarded to follow along.
>>222336111You are a retard if you think powerscaling should work like rock paper scissors. If anything, these random jobbings to literal whos is what makes capeshit even remotely interesting and not autismo fest. Anyone can roll nat 1 and have their shit pushed in by a competent opponent. I agree about Black Widow though. This is completely unrealistic. But Cap is a competent fighter.
>>222342993>le holding back
>>222344411>censoredThey haven't been allowed to show Hulk actually be Hulk since Age of Ultron
>>222343683He found out she was a young looking girl and that changed everything. Then he found out she was trying to save her sister and the coon lied to him. Simple as.
>>222337718>I wonder of they killed him in the original cut to introduce Miles, but chickened out due to poor reactions.I remember hearing some rumors that Peter died at the end of this film before it came out. But nothing proving it/leaks. Just rumors.>There was talk of redoing the ending. Anyone have any articles on that?>Hell, they took out the whole Jackal plot with Kieth David.Kieth David was supposed to be the jackal? Fuck, we really could have had that bastard Carrion in the movie instead of Jean Grey(not complaining I just like my spider-man villains).
>>222339158>they need to start moving like dbz characters to drive the point. Sometimes they do like when Thanos cracked a moonThat wasn't it. "Moving like DBZ characters" would mean something like this
>>222344618honestly almost every movie gets rewrites or reshoots so I wouldn't look too much into it
>>222339477Or he would've sensed the bullet before it was even shot and yanked Cap out of the way with spiderweb.
>>222343683Its muddy jane you tourist
>>222344702mary jeet
contract signed, kit connors is cyclops in the 2028 x-men movie. title will be revealed next week at d23
Can somebody explain again why Jean can't jump from body to body get to the guy who kidnapped her sister and see what happened instead of going all the way to the building?
>>222344647That fight scene was really cool.
