>grow up with media constantly referencing kung fu movies as nothing more than low-quality foreign films to be lampooned and parodied>actually watch them now in 1080p HD with original Mandardin audio>they're incredible pieces of theater with masterful choreography, editing, set and costume design, etc with a beautiful mythology and ethos that ties it all togetherWas it just the VHS picture quality and awkward English dubbing that drove people away from this whole genre?
>>222336957The concept of "soulful" was not yet invented in the western critical discourse through online banter.So movies like these were just seen as goofy infantile stuff that might be good for a laff or two.But now we know better.
>>222336957No, you're either a chinese faggot or a weeb
>>222336957Racism. Pure and simple.
>>222336957>Was it just the VHS picture quality and awkward English dubbing that drove people away from this whole genre?yesif you weren't around for the 90s and before it's impossible to explain how against subtitles everyone was in any situationlike zoomers all watch anime and turn closed captions on by default and everything on tiktok is captioned so it's second nature but if honestly suggested people watched anything that wasn't natural spoken English before crouching tiger and passion of the Christ made it acceptable you would get>I DON'T WANNA READ A FUCKIN MOVIE>WHAT YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER N ME?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10xaUvQprog
>>222337153like on slow days in school where you'd watch something where subtitles weren't even obtrusive like the jabba part in return of the Jedi you would have the dumbest kids in the class going>TEACHER THIS IS SOOO BORING >CAN WE PLEASE FAST FORWARD THROUGH THE SUBTITLE PART
Yeah it's really great, the stunts are crazy. A while ago I watched Human Lanterns (1982) and Bloodsport back to back and Bloodsport is a good movie but the fights were frankly embarrassing in comparison.>>222337153Pretty much my experience. People around me didn't start watching subtitled content until the hipster era.
>>222337491>A while ago I watched Human Lanterns (1982) and Bloodsport back to back and Bloodsport is a good movie but the fights were frankly embarrassing in comparisonReminds me of watching Cynthia Rothrock's Hong Kong films like Yes, Madame!, The Magic Crystal, and Above the Law, and then watching her American films like China O'Brien and Undefeatable, and the handling of the choreography and action in general is so much better in the Hong Kong stuff
>>222336957>original Mandardin audio*cantoneseA lot of old kung fu movies are really low quality and worthy of ridicule. And i'm saying that as someone who loves HK cinema. But once you've seen a few shaw bros flicks you'll notice how samey they all start to get.>>222336986Soulful just means nostalgia.
>>222338059>*cantoneseMost Hong Kong films before the 80s were dubbed natively in Mandarin. Cantonese is more modern and associated more strongly with other studios like Golden Harvest. Mandarin sounds much nicer to my ears, too.
>>222338039what is this woke girlboss slop?
>>222336957>Was it just the VHS picture quality and awkward English dubbing that drove people away from this whole genre?Yes.>>222338059>>222338176There is no "original" dubbing, the films were shot without sound and then dubbed both in mandarin (for the mainland and Taiwan) and cantonese (for Hong Kong).
>>222338747>There is no "original" dubbing, the films were shot without sound and then dubbedThe quality and level of effort were not equal. Mandardin was the intended language from the beginning, and the actors and sound artists worked with that in mind. The mandarin tracks are superior to the cantonese, and the films generally sync better with them.
For me it's Human Lanterns
Based thread. Watched a load of Shaw Bros films a few month ago.
>>222336957I haven't seen too many, admittedly. I've only watched a couple of the Bruce Lee starring and Bruce Lee related ones (like Tower of Death) and a few Jackie Chan ones.....which more obscure ones would you people reccommend? Any good Shaw Brothers ones?
Dragon Inn is so fucking kino until the last act and then they defeat the bad guy by spinning in a circle to flare up his asthma and it fucking SUCKS
>>222340093The 36th Chamber of ShaolinThe 8-Diagram Pole FighterThe Boxer's OmenThe Black TavernThe Five Deadly Venoms
>>222340452I'll check 'em out.....many thanks, anon!
The peak of Shaw kino!
>>222337153You're mistaking your internet bubble for the real world. The reason you heard things like that back then wasn't because people were more retarded. It is because that is the last time you interacted with a real cross-section of society (through school).
