>bronze age is collapsing what of a pseud one have to be to actually put that line in a movie how THE FUCK would people back then know they live in the bronze ageimagine reading that piece by Julian Jaymes (more likely having one of your lackeys read it) and shoehorning those concepts into your movie
>the Victorian Age is collapsing>the Steam Age is nearing its end>the Internet Age has begun>the Trump Age is in doubtNone of these statements would be unfathomable to the people of the time. We generally know what kind of age we're living in, and we give it a name.
>>222338510Nolan is a pseud who has an army of pajeets and midwits willing to gobble up whatever slop he doles out, who cares
>>222338574>oh yes, we use bronze, the only metal known to man currently, but we are going to name this age bronze age instead of metal age because we just fucking know there will be other kinds of usable mainline metals in the future
>>222338609Crazy how people actually need it spelled out
>what of a pseud one have to be toSPEAK ENGLISH
>>222338609One of the big things to know about bronze is that it is in fact a combination of metals. A more obscure fact is that it requires an elaborate trade network to source tin if you live in the central Mediterranean. It's difficult to maintain an elaborate trade network in an environment where everyone is randomly murdering, raping and stealing from their neighbors.
>>222338609>what is the Stone Age>how would anyone spot the difference
>>222338510>how THE FUCK would people back then know they live in the bronze agebecause they used bronze? Then they probably figured out the bronze age was ending when they discovered a better material/ It's not hard to understand, ESL. Just because your culture never made it to the bronze age by yourselves, doesn't mean better cultures weren't aware of things.
>>222338609>the only metal known to man currentlybronze is an alloy of two different metals, you abysmally retarded fuck
>>222338840>One of the big things to know about bronze is that it is in fact a combination of metals.Literally the next thing you learn about it after you learn the word "bronze". These retards come from cultures that never got to the bronze age, they were just handed everything up to the industrial age.
>>222338510The line is a direct lift from Emily Wilson's translation of the Odyessey. She wrote it blame her.
>>222338840>>222338843>>222338878>>222338897>>222338914holy fucking retards, that why I said MAINLINE metal, good luck making reliable tools out of copper and by the way, metal alloys are also metals you dumb fucksdon't try to lecture people after reading through AI abstract of wikipedia page, your jeetinees is showing more importantly is why did nolan feel the need to insert The Bronze Age Collapse™ in such on-the-nose way
>>222339015It's not a metal, retard. It's an alloy. Don't pretend you knew that. The fact that you think anyone needs ai to tell them such a basic fact proves that you didn't.
>>222339109I don't know how it works for you in hindi but metal alloys are classified as metals (material class and not chemical classification you retard) in every civilised language
>>222338510Literally the most embarrassing dialogue from any movie in the last decade
>>222339015It's much more jeetish to watch a freewheeling entertainment like Nolan's Odyssey, then push your remedial bifocals up the bridge of your huge nose and say, "Ehrm, that's not historically accurate, you know!" It reeks of naiveté. It foghorns to the white man that here is a jeet who is trying too hard to fit in.
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>>222338510>what of a pseud one have to beGood morning sir, Jai Hind
idk, how can we tell that we live in the age of AI right now
>>222339475OP hasn't even reached the Age of Indoor Toilets yet, but he pretends to be an expert on the course of civilisation.
Same reason they keep calling Early-Stage Turbo-Capitalism 'late-stage capitalism'
>>222338510Does that mean no more poetry slams?
>>222338510The threats of the sea peoples was an unintentional metaphor for mass immigration and population replacement.
>>222339133thank god for chatGPT that you were able to finally learn this in adulthood huhmost of us learned it in school
>>222341018Nolan's message was good then. Migration replacement isn't real, the world's problem stems from white people anger threatening the globalised economy. Whites should calm down about politics before they become monsters just like Achaeans should have been calmer about Helen before the war warps them into Sea Peoples.
>>222338574History tends to be bad at naming. I think it's the case with cave bears that they were named "cave" because scientists found a skeleton in a cave. But they roamed all kinds of biomes. And now 90% of people think they're somehow were cave creatures. Same with the "bronze era". Bronze was probably a backdrop for them, it was what they knew. There's no telling that the Internet is going to be as big as we think it is. Or fucking Trump (a single president). 1000 years from now our era might be best characterized by some weird new emissions that we output or new clothing trends, or hormonal shifts. You might as well be a human of the "Synthetic clothing era" and not even know it. We have a loose grip on linking current events and what will actually matter hundreds of years from now.
itt: illiterate low iq rightoids who have never heard of Hesiod
>>222342337Explain further please
Movies are made by mega pseuds, yes. Is this surprising to you? The most intelligent director has an IQ of like 120 max
>>222338510>muh end of an era propaganda>muh just forget the past broOnly retards like this movie
>>222342337Hesiod was after the Bronze Age you worthless communigger
>>222338574None of those 4 possible ages you listed are based on what materials the artifacts from the time tend to be made of.No one's gonna go "We're currently using copper a lot? We're living in a the copper age!" or do it with stone or bronze or iron
>>222338609>>222339015I fucking hate old wrinkly historian faggots for coming up with this naming scheme because retards will forever think that you only get specific metals in each age and there's a progression like it's fucking Minecraft or something.Meteoric and Telluric iron are probably the best examples since their use predates bronze. It's not the oldest example, but Greenland both had Cape York meteorite and the biggest (and only major surviving) source of Telluric iron, and as such was such a signfiicant source of it that tools made from it have been found in both North America and Europe - quite literally there was a magical bullshit rock in far, far north that you could make superpowered tools and weapons from.There was also limited use of wrought iron as early as 3000 years BC with a significant increase in iron production around 1500 BC. First, possibly accidental, examples of steel also come from around that period. Trojan War happened around 1200 BC. The famous Damascene, the Wootz steel, was first made at large scale around 1000 BC in Sri Lanka.It is called Bronze Age because bronze was the primary metal used at the time, but not the *only* one. Bronze is actually generally better than iron (though worse than steel), but there's just so much more iron, once the word got around iron smelting took off very rapidly because metal tools and weapons just weren't that expensive and hard to get anymore, causing a huge paradigm shift.I'm not defending Nolan and I feel like the line is very hamfisted and not thought out well, but it's not out of the question that a particulaly smart guy from the era could see the writing on the wall and realize that his cozy bronze noble warrior class life is in danger because now every fucking peasant can have an iron tipped spear and arrows, but I doubt that's exactly how he would have worded it (yes, yes, I know, bronze age, heroic age, whatever. genuine Greek bullshit from centuries after the fact).
>>222342931I want you to focus on the fact that nolan probably recently picked up the idea of the bronze age collapse from some pretentious books he read or more likely had someone summarise them for him and he was so compelled to push in on the nose in his next movie
>>222342931holy shit shut the fuck up you insufferable faggot who the fuck asked
>>222338574>The First World War has started
>>222342931Honestly it wouldn't have been bad if Odysseus spent more than 1 line musing about how he's seen the trade routes collapsing and that would mean less tin coming in from far off places and so their weapons and metalwork would become weaker leading to much hardship all round, but that isn't as snappy as "Our age of bronze is collapsing"
>>222338840>One of the big things to know about bronze is that it is in fact a combination of metals.I knew that since before most of you were born.
>>222343385imagine bragging about this lmaoyou are less of a man than any tranny
>>222338574>our classical age is collapsing... such a classic time... lost...
>>222343385I bet you got that shitty copper from Ea-Nasir
>>222343411Classic
>>222343410Relax for once in your short life, babby.
>>222338574The thing is that those are are obvious landmarks for comparison, but Bronze Age would be meaningless to anyone at the time because its a name that only makes sense in retrospect.We can call today the age of the internet because we had a time before the internet, the internet is here, and we can see that its very different. But to anyone living in the bronze age, there's no reason to think about it in those terms. In the same way that someone fighting in WW1 would never CALL it WW1 because that would require them to already be aware of WW2. They just called it the Great War, because thats what it was to them: a war of unfathomable scale.
>>222343255>>222343360Oh yes, I agree. It could have been a good historical reference if done subtly, but Nolan is anything but. The whole movie generally reads like the sort of shit someone uncritically regurgitates after watching some extremely popsci Youtube videos.>>222343305>go onto a forum>get angry that people talk on itI pray that you will grow up one day.>>222343581First World War was actually called that by some guy shortly after it ended, the intention being that it's a "warning for future", the thinking being that if we can have a World War, surely we can have multiple.Of course, it was just a one guy.
>>222338574Looks like channers lacks basic literacy
>>222343888>go on anonymous forum>post your entire life storyI pray that you find god and turn away from the path of faggotry
>>222344358fr fr no cap shits bussin yowe like fortnite we like fortnite
>>222344434lmfao did you just switch into an alternate personality, schizo?
>>222344554You've embarrassed yourself.
