I hope you guys never asked your female friends out.It might be a form of rape now
>>222339201What was the reason for him not telling her that he likes her anyways? Like, what exactly do you hope to gain by not telling a girl how you feel? Because in my mind there is nothing to gain by doing that. In fact it's akin to shooting yourself in the foot
>>222339201>Media illiteracy momentIts literally the opposite. The movie is saying you should be confessing your feelings instead of raping your crush.
>>222339252>trvke
>>222339265nope it's saying if you arent a 7'5 bilionaire chad by the time you're 12 (or else it's too late and youll never make it chuddies) then breathing the same air as her is rapehope this helps!
>>222339252Bear is the most spineless nutless gutless man in the world. That is the purpose of the character. Whenever he makes a choice that effect the plot pause the movie and think what is the most chicken shit choice he could make, you just predictedthe next scene. The writer rewrote the script multiple time to make sure the audience would be disgusted by how cowardly he is.
>>222339252She is his childhood friend I think? He probably thinks she will think less of him if she does not return his feelings.
>>222339252Because the entire shit plot wouldn't work otherwise. He has to be comically incompetent at everything.
>>222339252women can literally get you arrested and sent to concentration camps for the rest of your days if you dare ask them out
>>222339283jfc unironically go outside and touch grass right now
>>222339252Unrequited feelings would ruin the status quo, and potentially get him ridiculedFrom an outsiders perspective we know he would probably be fine
>>222339252It was to illustrate that bear is a complete pussy and wouldnt even use THE perfect time to tell her how he feels
>>222339325>g-g-g-g-go outside so we can record your every move goyim!no
>>222339355
>>222339252>hope to gain by not telling a girl how you feel?It's about not losing
>I'm going to continually hang out with this woman that isn't interested in me, how could women do this to me?
>>222339377
>>222339355Like anyone gives a single fuck about you or anything that you do lmao. You should go outside though for your own mental. Your thoughts are not normal
>having females as friendsYou have yourself to blame for this. Everyone knows guys who do this are desperate for "easy friend" pussy, and a guy in a relationship with that girl will resent you, because they know you're trying to fuck their woman.
>>222339383>throw a tantrum when you get rejectedYoure doing it wrong anon
>>222339417>for your own mental.ESL detected! I won! You lost! No takesies-backsies!
All men bad.Unless they are your onlyfans sponsors.
>>222339445Peak female form
>female friends
>>222339419There's a difference between the Friendzoned guy and the Just a Friend guyIYKYK
>>222339201The last time I did that the girl swivelled on her heels reaching out their hand to ward me away and shouted "FRIENDZONED! ,FRIENDZONED" then acted surprised I when I stopped talking to her.
>>222339252Incels don't owe you a confession of their feelings, femchud.
>>222339201im too shy and neurotic to have friends of either gender
>>222339252Female claws typed this post
>>222339476>FRIENDZONED! ,FRIENDZONEDHow do you even respond to that? "Now I don't feel guilty for jerking off to your beach photos"
>>222339476> swivelled on her heels reaching out their hand to ward me away and shouted "FRIENDZONED! ,FRIENDZONED"based dramatic foid
>>222339252If he does and she says no then it's real and the dream is dead. Don't ask and the guy can keep the delusion alive.
>>222339529It fucked me up so bad that I don't even talk to women anymore, Only if I really have to.
>>222339476>reaching out their hand to ward me away and shouted "FRIENDZONED! ,FRIENDZONED"actually based
>>222339201you don't ask them out with the intention of making them your gf, you just ask to fuck. female friends are weird and will let you fuck all the time but never even insinuate that you want to date them or they stop talking to you t. have been having sex with my female friend for like 10 years occasionally
Men and women cannot be friends. This is an irrefutable fact.
>>222339201keep seething and coping, incel
>>222339566If you avoid talking to people over her you've given her power over you forever. Her magic spell worked.
>>222339201This movie really shined a light on how many men out there are only friends with women because they want to have sex with them. Crazy. As if we needed more reasons to segregate.
>>222339275I agree with le rebbitor from a horseshoe point of view
>>222339201How could people have female friends and not fuck them?
>>222339722Wives of frens off limits but are still around you like fren is. Never put penis where frens penis has been.
>>222339699But the only reason for men to be friends with women is to have sex with themI thought it was an implicit fact in society as a whole
>>222339456Yeah, the second one is gay.
>>222339750Hello saar
>>222339722Men are “friends” with women because they want to fuck them. Women are “friends” with men for validation and ego boosts.
>>222339679>herNTA but you seem like a simp that implies not all women are like that.Newsflash: they are, they might not express the feeling the same way, but the feeling is shared. That anon made the right choice.
>>222339750There because you are brown. White men can be friends with white women and not expect sex to occur. Browns will make it occur via rape.
>>222339812>Theregood morning sir!
>>222339789how so this is why they try to befriend men putting false excuse ""my girlfriends so nasty and gossipy wahahaha !!!! meanwhile they go full misandrist provately
>>222339812>There because you are brownDon't talk to your girlfriend's boyfriend like that!More than that don't accuse others of being brown when you can't even speak english.
>>222339201I hope everyone realizes that she is preparing to reject him here.
>>222339821>>222339824nta but you are both probably brown. white people can make spelling mistakes.
>>222339699>As if we needed more reasons to segregate.can't believe gynoids will be the reason we get misogynistic Shariah in the West
>>222339791No hes wrong. You don't stop talking to them you just stop caring what they think. Way easier than avoiding them.
>>222339823saar
>>222339844>white people can make spelling mistakes.Pablito you don't know the first thing about proper grammar, take the L and go eat some tacos while you fap at the thought of your crush getting fucked by her bf. You're such a good friend after all!
>>222339841shes giving him a way out of this dumb fuck social dynamic that he's inflicted on himself he's not gonna be able to move on with his life and find someone else until he just asks her out and gets rejected
>>222339852>stop caring what they thinksounds rapey
>>222339476>swivelled on her heels reaching out their hand to ward me away and shouted "FRIENDZONED! ,FRIENDZONED" How do you respond to this, without sounding mad?
>>222339852Yeah I stand corrected, that is actually the best way to go.
>>222339301>She is his childhood friend I think?No, retard
>>222339201>female friends out.I'm not a faggot thank you very much.
>>222339852Well to clarify I don't talk to women my age or younger, Older women are fine, They develop a fragment of a soul over time.
>>222339872>bring up cuckolding out of nowhere ya youre brown
>>222339252>1500 threads a day since the movie came out insulting Nikki, the director, everyone involved in the movie, everyone who says they liked it, women, etc., and bitching about how this movie is genociding us poor men>/tv/ can't answer this simple question, starts memeing and dancing around itVOLUMES
>>222339882I did vandalize her place of work a couple times.
>>222339252If he was 13 I might understand since he hasn't had time or experience to get some self confidence. But the movie makes it clear he's basically 30. There's no excuse at that point.
>>222339201I date raped one of my female "friends" and gaslighted her into wanting to date me.
>>222339914The actual answer is just that he, and guys like him, are convinced that if they just stay friends enough and she sees the 'real him' that she'll fall for him and throw herself at him, but he can't make the first move out of fear of rejection.
>>222339913That's what awaits "men" who are "friends" of women like you, Chico. Maybe if you're goofy enough she'll let you watch!
>>222339252It would be violently beta to admit that a girl was right (about him liking her in this case).
>>222339946It's not even their fault, they were just taught a false lesson as children. It's the exact same thing with the kids in the 00s believing they can punch through a tree or naruto run from bullies because they see it in anime and don't have any experience to understand it's just fiction. Everything about it is sad for everyone involved, really.
>>222339934self confidence doesn't develop out of nothing
>>222339699i have nothing against reintroducing gender segregation especially at gyms but it really anooys women with penis envy who want to invade every male space and turn in into gossip club
>>222339976It's sad for teenagers, it's pathetic for adults to have not learned that lesson yet.
>>222339976>It's not even their fault,Will incels EVER be responsible for anything?
>>222339705taking rape out of the equation kills the romance and excitement
>>222340021There are different kinds if rape, and the movie's MC would definitely not be able to provide the right kind to build a relationship upon.
>>222339956im nta like i said, ive never been friends with a woman, i just wanted to let you know youre brown
>>222340054>im nta like i saidYeah you just happen to have the same kindergarten grammar.You self-hating shitskins are really pathetic.
>>222340103sorry i dont put effort into a 4chan post i suppose. didnt realize we were filling the library of alexandria here
If you're a shy, awkward, "below average male", Your very existence is an affront to them.
>>222339252Why ruin a perfect record of zero initiations?Only times I've initiated were when friends dared me.
>>222339201The scenes were shot to muddy the waters whether she liked him or not. In reality, she wouldn’t have liked him romantically because he was too big of a spineless wimp about everything. Ian wasn’t giving Bear bad advice, he was telling Bear what works for him with Nikki. The issue is Bear spills his spaghetti around her and she gets the ick.
>>222339750>But the only reason for men to be friends with women is to have sex with them>I thought it was an implicit fact in society as a wholeNah, thats only for autistic men. Normal men can be friends with women fine and even benefit from it believe it or not.
>>222340208im autistic af and all my friend groups have been mixed sex don't lump me in with those faggots
>>222339841I’m not so sure because she said «now’s the time» to tell her. She was actively getting her shit together.
>>222339445name?
“People” actually watch this and debate it.
>>222339438He was egged on maliciously but he's too slow to realize they're all laughing at him
>>222340279She escorts in California. Hot face but not worth what I paid.
>>222339876Exactly. She’s an 8/10 who gets thousands of likes on social media for a basic selfie. He is obsessed with her but needs to get over it since he will never be with her
Bear already knew she was the town's bike.Why the fuck didn't he see the warning signs?
>>222339383>fat dweeb asks out cute blonde that asked him to borrow a pen once Painful but this is a lesson he needed to learn
So at what age did you learn that women don't have Souls?
>>222340302ok but I didnt ask how you got your latest std
>>222340330You’ve never had a oneitis before?
>>222339383This shit is why phones should be banned in schools holy shit
>>222340370Several.Goodpoint.I fucking hate that feeling now.
>>222340201Threadly reminder that Ian did nothing wrong.
how does a movie as a simple as this go over so many people's heads
>>222340369Always use protection and get regularly tested. You are doing that, right anon?
>>222340404It hits too close to home for a lot people.
>>222340404it's just circlejerking but there aren't even two circles it's just everyone jkerking each other off
What redeeming qualities does Bear have?
>>222340455He eats pussy.
>>222339252Didn't want to face rejection.Sometimes you build a person up in your head, and when/if you start dating them, they disappoint you and ruin the illusion.
>>222340482>hes gayUmmm?
>>222339252he would still rather have her as a friend even if she didn't like him than her rejecting him. the sad sate of affairs
>>222340314Yet she was fucking Ian, who was just some chubby normie, for years.
>>222340520Women are vile.
>>222340520Not only is 2 years an absolute eternity for FWB to last, she even hit Ian with the «so what are we» and he didn’t step up so she left him.
>>222340314>gets thousands of likes on social mediais this the social credits for amerifarts, jeets liking your Instagram slop?
>>222340140It's no effort at all for white people, not that I'd expect you to know that.
>>222339201>>222339275The plebbitor is correct, but from the opposite direction. If you like a girl, ask her out. If she says no, don't waste any further time on her. Don't invest two or three years of your life on courting a vagina you're not going to get.
>>222339201I'll be honest, rape isn't as bad as women make it out to be. don't believe me ? women raping men isn't looked at as badly as the reverse
>>222340520Ian had social skills and wasn’t awful looking. Nikki probably does like it when Ian spits in her mouth and calls her freaky.
Everytime you confess your feelings to a girl, you're burning the bridge with her and 20 other girls she chats with.It's not worth it.
>>222340520Fucking feels good, it's a great way to pass time and it makes you feel better afterwards. It does become a problem when your partner is a sperg who will plan out your grandkids' names before he even inserts his penus into vagoo. Ian was fine in that sense, so I have no idea what problem you can possibly have with that.
>>222340610Question: Why do you care
>>222340610That would be awful if there were only 21 women on the planet
>>222340610>burning the bridgewhat bridge? if she never had the same feelings for you that you have for her, there was no bridge to begin with more like a rope you've been hanging
>>222340610>when the guy you use for free drinks and attention says he has something to tell you and not the hot 6'5 guy you are waiting to commit to you
>>222340630>dude like why do you care about being permaghosted by your entire social circle lmao
>>222340610>instead of crossing the bridge or burning the bridge I'm going to hover awkwardly at the entrance of the bridge for the next few years and then blame the bridge
>>222339275>StonetossI dont even get what he wants to say anymore.That wish would backfire in so many hilarious ways anyway
>>222340520Ian was taller than Bear and probably was hotter before he gained weight. Remember that they only hooked up in the past
Have you ever have a girl just replace you with another dude?
>>222339252>What was the reason for him not telling her that he likes her anyways?For the movie? -- "Modern audience morality" - the writer made him the unsympathetic and unlikable villain. This movie is just a rewrite of the Monkey's Paw, but with out the Christian morality against dabbling in magic and unearned gains. So it vilifies men as incels and make them as the cause of their own problems
>>222339884But she could be if she wanted to be, right?
>>222340702>in the pastThey were fucking for two years right up until Nikki was trying to get her shit together. Ian thought Nikki was mad at him and trying to get back at him for not committing to her.
>>222340680If you get ghosted by twenty people for asking one girl out, they weren't your friends anyway
>>222340610>Everytime you confess your feelings to a girl, you're burning the bridge with her and 20 other girls she chats with.If a girl asked your friend out, got rejected and came then asked you out how would you feel? Nobody wants to know they're the backup choice
>>222340575is it? cause i dont really put in much effort to my posts
>>222340769The chubby faced Asian in this movie knew she wasn’t Bear’s first choice.
>>222339265>Media illiteracy momentspeaking of which, that picture. The number of people who don't understand that Bear did not know the wish would work (because it's fucking magic) is astounding. And yet they all make comments like that where they want to sound deep>>222339275Friendzone is very much a real thing and it's what happens when you wait too long to make a move. Bear may have had a chance with Nikki if he asked her out when they first met, but by the movie it's too late. If you wait too long, women see you as weak and unmanly and only good for friendship, not romance.
>>222339252Fear.You say nothing, nothing changes. Maybe one day she decides she loves you and pursues you. There's no risk (in your head) to this, so it's safe.You say something, three possible outcomes:>she feels the same>she doesn't and is weirded out by you (possibly with a devastating rejection)>she doesn't but wants to stay friends but the friendship is the never the same again and you're permanently the little bitch who everyone knows is pining for a girl who rejected himOnly one of those 3 options is good.It stems from insecurity. Hopefully you eventually grow out of it. But it's real and it's not acknowledged enough because the people who normally make these sorts of films never experience it.
>>ask out ask out ask outremember anons, you can't actually do this literally, because if you do you'll give her the ickyou have to match her unreadable signals with your own unreadable signals (that you yourself aren't aware of) and slowly gradually insinuate yourself into her life but in a way that feels to her to be more intimate and exclusive than just friendswithout making it obvious what you're really doing, because that will give her the ick
>>222340756>they weren't your friends anywayWell hello Holden Caulfield, fancy meeting you on 4chan . Tell us more how people such as your friends can't be weak or flawed and must act upstanding at all times .
>>222340753>get her shit togetherWhat the fuck was even her plan? Quit her job and somehow make money writing right away?
>>222340799Sarah was way too attractive and thin to be the girl no guy looks at because they just want Stacy
>>222340610I ctrl+f for "webm" to see who would post this one ITT
>>222340910Anon this is fucking deranged no woman wants or expects you to do this
>>222340925Society doesn’t allow hot girls to fail. She would have just latched on to some guy after writing didn’t go anywhere.
>>222339934>he's basically 30I thought they were all early 20s. Anyway Bear is a massive pussy and he's pathetic, but to be fair asking a question like that so bluntly and so unexpectedly to such a timid guy is retarded if not straight up mean. You know that the dude has been too cowardly to confess to you for months if not years and he's clearly nervous, and you don't even ease him into it? Nikki was either socially retarded or she was a cunt
>>222339252fpbpincels eternally btfo
>>222341017>neg her while spilling your spaghetti>she doesn’t respond happilyWhat a cunt amirite
>>222340990>do you want to go out with me>nois how it goes, you have to be subtle
>>222339252Fippy bippy.Chuddies, your response?
>>222341095Anon you need to follow the rules>be attractive>don’t be unattractive
>>222339252>What was the reason for him not telling her that he likes her anyways?Are you genuinely autistic? Have you NEVER had a human relationship before? Are you completely unfamiliar with such incredibly basic social concepts related to Friendship vs. Romance, such as frear of rejection, fear of ruining friendships, etc.?
>>222339265>Media illiteracy momentThat's you claiming he "raped" her.
>>222341114Maybe you should just stop projecting your cuckservative insecurities onto others?
>>222341114There’s no way Nikki didn’t suspect that he liked her. She kept him around as an orbiter.
>>222340990>no woman wants or expects you to do thisExcept all the ones outright claiming that that's exactly what they want & expect, but using other words?
>>222341114>Are you genuinely autistic?No, just a woman living on tutorial mode.
>>222341070what does that have to do with anything, Bear being a self-centered faggot doesn't magically mean that Nikki is a flawless princess
>>222341106I can't
>>222340910>unreadable signalswhy do you even want a relationship if you're this fundamentally incapable of understanding humanspeople tend to make it incredibly obvious when they're uncomfortable with something
>>222339914Dude that question was literally already answered like 10 times just ITT, let alone in other threads.The fuck are you talking about?
>>222341180Why would she respond positively to being insulted?
>>222339201>not telling her>she’s leaving anywaysLiterally nothing to lose.
>>222341219>autistic spergs don't want relationships>the desire for companionship doesn't facilitate the biological imperative????????????????????
Three weeks.Three weeks is the time you have, starting from the moment you realize you like the girl, to figure out if and how you are going to approach her.If you can't, you have to drop it and put the woman in the mental no-fuck list. Nothing is worse than aggonizing yourself for months or years over what could be.This is easier to do as a non-virgin though
>>222341219>people tend to make it incredibly obvious when they're uncomfortable with something
>>222339417And that's how the jews and mass censorship wi,n - with this attitude.You're vaxxed, 100%.
>>222339201>>222339252>uses his ONE WISH for the chick his buddy fucked to be in love with him>all while there's another female interested in himI can't remember character names but wishGirl tried to tell him that tattooGirl was into him but he was a fucking retard.That's the movie. He had another girl interested in him but he was too fucking stupid to see it and/or listen to the girl he wanted to love him literally telling him to his face about it.
Reminder that male unwillingness to step up is causing an actual global crisis
>>222340842>Friendzone is very much a real thing and it's what happens when you wait too long to make a move. Bear may have had a chance with Nikki if he asked her out when they first met, but by the movie it's too late. If you wait too long, women see you as weak and unmanly and only good for friendship, not romance.So then if youre not going to ask her out, dont continue being her friend when youre not interested in friendship and continue to cry about it. How old are you dude?
>>222340404It's an incredibly simple movie that was released during an utter peak in society's total neuroticism, especially neuroticism among women.Had this exact same movie been released in the 1980's it would have been a mid horror entry were the analysis didn't go beyond "Yeah, it's a Twilight Zone/Ray Bradbury/monkey-paw sort of thing about how even a completely innocent wish can be twisted into something horrific by sinister forces, very spooky". But since it was released today, not only is it supposedly a "masterpiece" simply due to everything these days being a comparative sea of shit, but it's also being touted as some kind of exposé on "the plight of being a woman and the inherent evils of men" due to being released in the era following feminism completely fucking society rather than in the era preceding it.
>>222341292>uses his ONE WISHHe had exactly 0% reason to believe the wish would work
>>222339201I have incel fatigue.
>>222341232she shouldn't, are you implying that she intentionally put Bear on the spot as revenge?To be honest I thought that the Freaky Nikki comment happened afterwards I must have misremembered
>>222341277lol yeah, neurotypicals are on a different firmware. i have no clue how they survived so long and became the dominant force in the world, everything they do seems so random and illogical.
>>222341219>people tend to make it incredibly obvious when they're uncomfortable with somethingLmao, no they don't. Not women, at least. They instead expect you to play a mind reading game.You know what would make it even more "incredibly obvious when they're uncomfortable with something"? Just saying so. Take the "signal"-guessing bullshit out of it, FFS.
>>222341322
>>222341315correct but if you had one wish and you used it to get sloppy seconds from your buddy you're a fucking idiot.
>>222341306So you're admitting that women have completely arbitrary and irrational psychological classifications for men ("friendzone", etc.), but are still demanding men abide by them and get pissy when they don't?
>>222341277>>222341378anons this is a problem with you, not women
>>222341348Neurotypicals don't believe in anything, They just go with the flow and give into peer pressure.
Why do 4choids suddenly think the world has stopped dating because of some obscure culture war?
>>222341426
>>222341306>"Women and their behavior is irrational.">"Yes, so shut up and abide by that irrational behavior, incel!!!"This response wasn't the Le Epig Own you thought it was.
>>222340610Why do guys try to do the whole “suddenly confess their emotions” thing? I blame anime for this.
>>222341448What's irrational about it?Women, like most people, want to have a romantic partner and some friends.They don't want their romantic partner to be their friend and they don't want their friends to be their romantic partner. You're either group A or group B. Trying to worm your way into group A by pretending to be in group B with an ulterior motive is far more irrational than anything she's doing.
>>222341306>Friendzone doesn't existyes it does, and the point is that you have to make a move before you get put in the friendzone>okay so I was obviously wrong and don't know anything about women but so what how old are you?are you a literal woman?
>>222341429Probably because at the provable level, people aren't getting married or having children anymore, at allAnd at the researchable level, ever increasing numbers of people are reporting to pollsters that they aren't dating anyone and have no sexual or romantic experienceAnd that this number is catastrophic, an outright majority, of men under thirty
Having Autism is like Serpico, Everybody is a duplicitous cocksucker except you.
>>222341501America is not the worldI've never even stepped foot outside the Global South and I don't need to hear this shit all the timeYour problems are obscure
>>222340712This
>>222341138They know they just want to pretend this is a dunk on their perceived enemies
>>222339252Realistic answer: things can change once it comes out and the friendship can fall apart and fear of losing that can drive one to not want to say anything.
>>222341501Men who have hookup chicks commonly report themselves as being single, whereas women are likely to report the same dynamic as a relationship.
>>222339377Faggy twitter image
>>222341532>lives in favela normie land>complains about white american incels on a white american incel website>in englishmake it make sense
>>222341501btw the last time the numbers were verifiably this bad humanity hadn’t figured out how to plant grains or write things down. It will either get corrected or we get replaced with a culture that makes sure it doesn’t happen again>>222341532>america is not the world>lives in a shithole so irrelevant it’s not mentioned because it’s assumed nobody will know what the fuck it is
>>222339265>>222339275I might to have to rewatch it while sober but pretty sure the dude didn't know the make a wish will work, it looked a silly thing not a real actual thing that will work. Why people act like he actively knew he would rob her of her free will?
>>222339750You’re talking to women
What do you guys actually picture your relationships looking like when you imagine it? I don't understand the psychology behind viewing women as these illogical inhuman creatures of pure evil but also being completely consumed by desperation to spend your lives with one?If its just sex can't you just get a hooker and solve your problem without needing to deal with the minefield of needing to actually interact with someone you view as subhuman?
>>222341532Everyone on earth has seen it happen outside of a narrow band in Subsaharan AfricaNotably, whatever the fuck happened to Japan and Korea in the 1990s ended up also happening to Italy and Ireland in the 2000s, America in the 2010s, then the likes of Indonesia and Mexico in the 2020sNote that every country shaded in blue is already below "extinction threshold"
>>222341567>men who have hookup chicksdamn i really do live in a different reality to some people
>>222339841They know
>>222341532If your country doesn't go through a winter it's a 3rd world shithole.
>>222341306You realize you can value a friendship but still harbor deeper feelings, right? Who am I kidding of course you don't.
>>222341426>If you don't behave irrationally and based entirely on emotion, you're """autistic""".No, sometimes the behavior people have is indeed stupid, regardless of how "common" it may be in our society (the fact that "a lot of people do it!" does not make something correct, and it especially doesn't make it rational/logical), and sometimes smarter people who don't have time for or interest in that bullshit point out how retarded that behavior is, with no "autism" involved. Idiots deflecting when more intelligent people pointing out retarded and counterproductive behaviors by calling the more intelligent person """autistic""" is a flimsy and entirely VERY recent deflection-strategy. But unfortunately, no, Beverly: Sometimes people are just genuinely smarter than you.If you really want something from someone, but instead of asking for it you just """hint""" at it and hope they "get the message", you're a retard.If you really want someone to stop doing something, but instead of asking them to stop you instead just """hint""" at it and hope they "get the message", you're a retard.That kind of shit is irrational, counterproductive, time-wasting, energy-wasting foid-brained bullshit, and being smart enough to recognize it isn't "autistic". It's just correct.
>>222339876>>222340314>being manipulative is actually a GOOD thing
>>222341618>manipulative She could not have asked a more direct question if she had tried
>>222341600There is something to your post, in that eventually guys just stop pursuing or even imagining relationshipsWomen will never ask themselves why they're so shit that men don't even want them anymore btw
>>222340492Being attracted to vaginas is gay?
>>222341600there are men with worse beliefs, and are more misogynistic, that have wives, girlfriends, harems, whatever. its not about what you believe, its about what you do and how lucky you are
>>222340603it’s unrealistic
>>222339383Befriend him immediately and be a bro to him, that way he'll inform you when the school shooting is going to be
>>222339252Struck a nerve
>>222340610This woman is posting itt
>>222341484>They don't want their romantic partner to be their friendWhy the fuck wouldn't someone want that? Even happily married couples talk about how their spouse often fits the bill of a "best friend", i.e. someone you vibe with, have a mutual understanding with, share interest with, actually want to be around, etc.What justification is there for having an arbitrary distinction, other than irrational foid-brained nonsense?
>>222341629It's ironic the success of the Taliban, given how strict their policies are on raping and murdering womenWhat are we supposed to take from the fact that they just win? To be clear I'm pretty uncomfortable with them myself
>>222341578>>222341588>>222341604>>222341609Most humans live in the third world. Our lives are the norm, yours are not. Your problems are barely a paper cut on human civilization.
>>222341532fertility rate is dropping like a rock literally everywhere except Africa. The US is actually doing relatively well compared to most western countries and especially asia.
>>222341532>America is irrelevant!>What REALLY matters is my personal experiences in Third World Favela-land....
>>222340910why can’t she just say if she likes you or notOh wait that would make her less entitled which only men have to do
>>222339252The point was to show what a coward he was. She basically handed everything to him on a silver platter and all he had to do was say ‘yes’.
>>222340990Found the dishonest woman
>>222341622I'm not talking about the people who have just checked out of dating entirely, I can understand that mindset. I'm talking about the people ITT who are very clearly furious with the prospect that women don't want them, while very clearly having no actual interest in women themselves.
>>222341657why are you talking about American media, in English, on an American website then?
>>222341657>Our lives are the norm, yours are not.You want to be us so badly, I can smell it through the screen.The West runs the world, you are irrelevant
>>222341621>She could not have asked a more direct question if she had triedBut this is where the self-defeatist guys will respond>she only asked him so he would say yes so she could humiliate him.
>>222341425Damn they never replied lol
>>222341426Wow all of your posts excuse women what a surprise
I have a schizo theory that Olivia Thirlby got canceled because when she said that she fucks the guys in her "friend zone," every other woman on earth viewed her as a traitor>I use the term “slut” in a very sex-positive way. I’m a slut and proud of it; all women should be. I think, personally, it’s a healthy view of sex. You have sex with your friends. Why not? They’re trustworthy, you know them, you like them, you know? You have sex with your friends, but then you’re still friends the next day.
>>222341532Holy shit women are just going to pretend none of this exists because they know it’s their fault lmfao of course
>>222341657I'm sure the Canadian government would have you personally flown out to accelerate our deracination and immiseration.
>>222341600>you don’t get to have that opinion
>>222341136>schizo-drivel nonsenseYou don't even have to have been in a similar position to be able to understand the difficulty and internal-conflict a boy might have when it comes to confessing their feelings to a woman that might except those feelings OR reject them, and the risk that poses to a relationship they already value. Even without comparable personal experience, that is a completely understandable emotion for other human beings that most people understand intuitively. If you genuinely need that explained to you then you might have genuine autism and simply not understand/not be capable of genuine human emotions.
>>222341715>because they know it’s their fault lmfao of courseThey actually think they are the ones rejecting men and stepping away from dating; what huge cope.Every singles night is like 95%+ women.
>>222341709She's a good girl~
>>222341666>The US is actually doing relatively well compared to most western countries and especially asia.that's cruel satan, not telling him that most births in america are due to niggers breeding like animals while jeets are getting imported in the millions
>>222341621>>222341693waiting this long after stringing him along proves she never liked himHe was right to see through it and say noAlso replying to yourself is insanely cringe
>>222341689>>222341690>being offendedI'm not even trying to attack you, it is just fact. If we require less to survive and your countries suffer the very slight demographic problem, then objectively most of us live on fine.>American website Retarded take. Even amongst white countries on this site I noticed Americans have more ego complex than other whites for some reason.
>>222341730It’s a low value woman wanting this movie to become social psa that ends up benefiting hypergamy moreThey don’t want betas to give up because they know it means we will rise up and kill feminism
>>222341600>What do you guys actually picture your relationships looking like when you imagine it?
>>222341689you gotta speak monkey for him to understand your insults
>>222341750>this post violates US lawDoes the US run your country too or just this website?
>>222341657>Our lives are the norm, yours are notscariest shit i read all day
>>222341532If I don't get a white submissive obedient wife I can breed 20 times a day I won't contribute to society and America collapses and so does the world because browns and europoids can't run the world on their own. What now retard?
>>222339383Poor fucking kid asked his dumb whore of a mother on how to confess to the girl he likes,I just know it.The single worst thing one can do is try to ask older women for advice on dating girls way below their age.I don't know why, maybe it's hormones, but they are like two different species with completely different social systems
>>222341741>waiting this long after stringing him along proves she never liked himWhat the hell do you mean by “stringing him along”?If he asked her out and she said “Maybe” then she would be stringing him along.If he never once asks her out, what is she supposed to do, read his mind?The fact that you identify so closely with such a weak cowardly manboy doesn’t make you look good.
>>222341173>No, just a woman living on tutorial mode.Well okay then. As I stated before the scene is for the movie and no woman would be so blunt in real life. But In Real Life why a guy would not tell her would be a fear of rejection** , and then living with "the loss of hope". IE she is "the one" and will make him happy and fix everything wrong with his life , and if that is gone , well I do I do now ? I will never be happy or find another woman I feel the same way for ever again, guess might as well kill myself. ** and they imagine the depths of how bad the rejection might be from personal ( laughing ) to telling all her girlfriends how "creepy" you were and wiping out your entire friend group ( be cause guys can't be friends with a "creep" either. Yes it is a very immature view point but it is what it is . It is easier to live in the friend zone with a bit of hope than to shoot your shot and lose everything.
>>222341709then why is she not only onlyfans?
>>222341801More like don’t ask women periodThey will never give a non chad the truth just look at this thread Attacking and insulting men for not approaching women who don’t want them?It’s insane but makes sense when you realize women have hypergamyIt’s all the discussion about this movie is about
>>222341808>you have to LOOK good!>what about what other people think!!!women are either into you or they aren’tShe wasn’t into him
>>222341793>I won't contribute to society and America collapses and so does the worldFuck this site is insufferable and delusional. Certainly of all the men in the world that might be consequential to the future of mankind, none of you here are those men.
I've noticed a real throughline around the "Nice Guy" thingThat women are attracted to abusive and violent menThat there's a cohort of men that don't have the mindset or desire to be violent and abusive toward womenThat women somehow view that mindset as *worse* than being violent and abusive?I don't really have an answer. I think the answer that's actually going to happen is that a billion pakis will rape everybody, and that women will complain about this much *less* than they do about guys who sit weird on the bus
>>222341844nobody cares what some dumb fat chick thinks
>>222341854YupYou are probably about to be attacked by those same womenThey come here to make sure incels don’t realize they are being used as slaves for women’s labor and attention
I don’t even look women in the eyes anymore. I just stare at my feet in public and do the chinese bugman shuffle, ignoring all around me.It’s Bear’s fault he didn’t realize he was a sub-5 male that doesn’t deserve friends or a girlfriend. Should’ve realized how 2026 America works, poor dumb bastard.
>>222339252can't say anything about movie, but in real life things change too fast, in a situation like this, and can be really overwhelming, in 2nd grade i was in a similar situation and that girl didn't even outright reject me, and since that girl was really cute probably everyone liked her, soon all my friends found out about it, one of my classmate who was wayy too old to be in 2nd grade wanted to fight me, while i was getting ready for the fight my most trusted friend pulled a fast one and sucker punched me, and i found out everyone but 2 guys wanted to beat the shit out of me
>>222341834Good point. In addition to being a chickenshit he was also lying to himself about his own number.
>>222341844He's right, though. The world isn't built on a handful of visionaries, it was built on literally 90%+ of men being able to secure a shitty labor job, find a wife and have a couple childrenThat's an actual foundation of civilization as we know it, straight back to Mesopotamia. Because for some reason tribes that adopted this system fucking dumpstered ones that didn't.
>>222341854The concept is if they have to choose between fake touchy wimpy rapists who grope their tits but cry a lot about modern problems and old school men who will stay fit and can be happy with basic medieval needs as long as they get to fuck women unrestricted, they will pick the latter because it is obviously the better choice in a failing world
>>222341854its just a pendulum swing, at some point being autistic and hardworking/reliable could actually lead to success. we basically took in a bunch of would be criminals and are attempting human domestication to unknown ends. the people who get it dont need to be told its wrong to gangrape a woman to death, and the people who dont get it cant be convinced otherwise.
>>222341884Your life was basically over by the time you were eight years old?
>>222341891No smart capable white man today with the skills to contribute to civilization is virgin and socially excluded by women, you fucking mong. You are deluded beyond words
>>222341911But your false binary is just a straw man you made to validate women’s hypergamy
>>222341927Hey, he made it eight years further than most people do (thanks for that too, women, see pic)
>>222341938this post is literally just saying women can’t choose wrong lolAll of your posts make excuses for women
>>222341927not necessarily, but in romance department, probably,i didn't give up by then, but did eventually give up by 10th grade,
>>222341927It’s like that for most non chads now
It's all rape, rape is earth
>>222341938Okay.I guess civilization is doing fine, then?So we got nothin' to worry about, this whole discussion is moot
>>222341891>The world isn't built on a handful of visionariesit is. chicken and the egg. sorry, egg came first and deserves the credit. just because you shovel shit and dig ditches for a living doesnt mean you would know how to make modern sanitation systems in a world without engineers and written history.
>>222341952he knows
>>222339275>The reddit post that destroyed every incel Holy based
>>222339201so many incel threads on /tv/ these days
>>222341809Mark is really chill and likeable in the interviews, but made him a creepy autist in that show.
>>222341978All right John Galt, settle down
>>222342002How does that reddit post erase the truth in the comic of women’s reaction? I must have missed that part
>>222342005life is too easy for normies, and all they do is complain, why cant we?
>>222341854>women are attracted to abusive and violent menyou have mental retardation
>>222342028Many women such as yourself admit to it in these threads
>>222342026Because you have been designated as a slave by women and you’re supposed to be grateful for the rejection apparently Why shouldn’t incels rise up?
>>222340578>If you like a girl, ask her out. If she says no, don't waste any further time on her. Don't invest two or three years of your life on courting a vagina you're not going to get.Good advice
>>222341484And if you’re a sub-7 male, you will always be in the friend group in modern society. No exceptions. Your life is meant to be like that of a hornet drone, you fly around, do your job, and then die alone.
>>222342028have a picture of a violent rapist who absolutely despises women and has had sex with approximately ~10,000 of them
>>222339275Kinda wrong, kinda right. You can step out of a zone. Stepping out of a zone does not disprove the existence of a zone.
>>222342028one thing incels and feminists agree on, rapists win. most rapist men in western countries are already sexually active and dont even need to rape to obtain sex, they just do it cause they can
>>222342028
>>222342059>>222342068Which is why incels need to rise up
>>222342066In fact; The ability to step out of a zone necessitates the existence of the zone and the ability to be within said zone.
>>222339275It's weird seeing a furry tranny talk as if he's one of the girls. You are not a woman you don't put people in the friend zone.
>>222340482bushman of the kalahari
>>222341955All of your arguments make excuses for yourselfLike men here exactly like you and the anons here can't be the reason society won't accept youIt is never your failing it is always conveniently whichever part of society thinks you don't belong
>>222342084Member when Joker was gonna casue an incel uprising?
>>222342059the shortest chubby guy in my high school friend group was the first to get laid, and now about a decade later the first to get married too
>>222342028>the Fifty Shades series of novels has sold approximately 165 million copies worldwide, and spawned a film franchise that made $1.3 billion at the box office
>>222342097That's why they needed to get his rags off
>>222342110he’s desperate to make up for his dysgenic genes
>>222342095normies dont outright tell you what youre doing wrong, they just isolate you so you lose social skills and end up a bitter "loser." they want you to kill yourself or end up in prison, its free entertainment to them.
>>222342097Which is why they raped himSame thing with this movieIt’s incel effigy cinema
>>222342084There will never be that. Incels need to realize their place as inherently low value men, work their low value retail or warehouse job, and go home to watch media. I look like an obese Quasimodo, and I’ve accepted my place. I work, I go home and watch old horror movies, and that’s how I live.
>>222342090He knowsHe’s just making excuses for women to do it with impunity
I'm so tired of these shitty threads. It's not anyone's fault but your own that you can't get a gf in this golden age of mankind and personal freedoms where most human beings are kind to you just for being human. Most of you would be dead in the pre industrial past for being a sperg at someone with a knife, try and appreciate this era more and go out and make friends and a gf, it's the easiest time in history to be a man and live a good free life.
>>222342147you doing what women want isn’t anybody’s problem but yoursIf all incels joined together we would be the majority and unstoppable
>>222342110Yes, yes anon and I’m a multi millionaire living in a mansion who enjoys spending time discussing shitty culture war movies. I can make up anything too.
>>222341114Bear's a fucking pussy faggot like you. Yes, I get it.
>>222342160so true sisterI just wonder why every health agency and census in every developed country lies about it, what do they gain by pretending we don't all have gfs?
>>222342095I accept your concessionKeep making excuses for women to be toxic and see how that works out for you
>>222342160you’re an ugly woman nothing you say has value
>>222340686The joke is the idea of letting her beta orbiter out of the friendzone is most terrifying thing of all to foids.
>>222342160Fuck you.
>>222339252>>222339265>>222339275>>222339290>>222339377>>222339389>>222339417That Reddit comment is the standard shutdown.“There is no such thing as a friendzone. Ask her out or leave her alone. It’s that easy.”It pretends the only two options are clean declaration or total exit, while ignoring the actual pattern the comic is mocking: prolonged mixed signals, one-sided emotional access, and the cultural punishment that lands on the man either way. If he asks and gets rejected, he risks the creep/entitled label or the social cost. If he stays in the ambiguous zone because the signals never clarified, he is later told the friendzone doesn’t exist and he should have just chosen one of the two binary options.This is the hypergamic-compatible excuse. It keeps female ambiguity cost-free and places the entire burden of clarity and risk on the man. The friendzone denial is useful precisely because it erases the intermediate state many women maintain—continued attention and proximity without sexual or romantic commitment—while still allowing them to frame any male frustration with that state as his failure to “just ask or leave.”The comic shows the cultural over-reaction to male desire for exit from that state. The Reddit reply restores the preferred rule: the man must resolve the ambiguity on her preferred terms or accept that his complaint is illegitimate. That is the excuse in action. It protects the leverage and denies the mechanism at the same time.
>>222342169you can't have ever left your house before if you think the very concept of a short guy having a gf is so otherworldly that it must be made up
>>222342173They want immigrant workers for cheaper wages anon. Rich people agendas are not that complicated, as they have never been.
>>222342160how do i enjoy anything? im miserable all the time, all i do is ruminate on people who hurt me in the past. its a never ending cycle of suffering, there is no one who is kind to me or wants me around, stop being disingenuous.
>>222342145Here’s the thing history doesn’t tell you. There must always be a pariah for the rest of the group to beat down for cohesion. We’re only seeing people talk about it because the group getting abused is a massive group, all ugly and awkward men.
>>222342187And the response doesn’t even acknowledge that which is keyIt simply makes excuses for women like every other feminist post itt like>>222342170>>222342160>>222342147>>222342110>>222342095>>222342028
>>222342013Well my using the Phrase of "Shooting your shot" , and the earlier post of Catcher in the Rye , thought of Mark.**** Did you know he was married with a cute little Japanese wife .
>>222342203Woosh
The other day a woman shot me the dirtiest look because I made eye contact with her.
>>222342198Women maintain the ambiguity to avoid violence. In an ideal world a man would not need to constantly be foregone the possibility of being rejected to contribute to society, but we have a big delusional cult of men who immediately want to short circuit society if the female friend they like turns them down, so women are rightfully having to keep it ambiguous. Good on them.Women in general bare an extreme burden of these uncertain times.
>>222342233she probably saw obsession
>>222342229>** Did you know he was married with a cute little Japanese wife .Just like Stan Hansen!
>>222342198Yeah yeah blah blah my nigga. No such things as mixed signals with a bitch. Either we fuckin or im out. No mix about it. If you stay in this weird nether region of uncertainty thats on you. A nonpassive man never has to deal with uncertainty. If she throws a signal he asks for clarification. If the answer isnt what he wants hes outta there.
>>222342200I do leave my house, but as I said, I practice chinese bugman philosophy. I do not speak to anyone. I do not look at anyone. I go home and only communicate with LLM and anons. Someone could fall into an open sewer grate abyss or get slammed by a car like in a /pol/ webm and I wouldn’t look up or pay attention to it. I know my place.
>>222341298>men please come backno
>>222340703yeah, and then she replaced that one, and the next, and then the next, and now she’s alone again
>>222342145literally every single post itt that has tried to explain to people what they're doing wrong has been met with ridicule
>>222342257>women are god and always rightHuh a lot of these posts ittIncels are right to collectively withdraw from this rigged game
>>222342273>if you didn’t fuck me you did something wrong>YOU>never me teehee because I’m a GIRL haha
>>222342279>women are god and always rightIsn't it funny how this is the one thing that the most bluehaired commie tranny and the hardest grilling right wing boomer agree 100% on
>>222342233If I see her again, I'll just give her the finger.But knowing Canada I'll get charged.
>>222342222>>222342187Try and think about how many "beta orbiters" could exist. Logistically if women were kinder and more open to men, every woman would have to be a prostitute, literally every single one of them would need to be fucked by 1000 men a day. Once we reach that state then a few men will just have to work to rebuild stability and we will have to start over from feudalism. It's not worth it. What women are doing now is negotiating with a bulk of men who normally would be properly burnt off in labor or war.Historically only 40% of men procreated compared to 80% of women, however women lose their autonomy to compensate for that privilege. The modern world means none of us have to suffer, try and be more grateful for it already.
>>222341298Chad, where have you gone? You fucked me once and girl brain tells me that means you want to be with me forever.ftfy
>>222340578>>222342054the fact that this has to be spelled out and is called "Good advice" is embarrassing. Did you guys not have father figures? Jesus Christ.
>>222342279This is true because women have all the power. A woman could look at you, make up a fake story that you assaulted her, and some cops would immediately beat the shit out of you and toss you in prison, forcing you to pay thousands in legal fees. If you manage to prove your innocence at all.
>>222342241This inverts reality on several levels:>Most men accept a clear “no.” The men who respond to rejection with violence or collapse are a small minority. Treating the entire male population as a latent threat that must be managed with permanent ambiguity is collective punishment dressed up as caution.>Ambiguity itself creates more male frustration and misreading, not less. Clear rejection ends the interaction. Endless soft signals, continued proximity, and deniable interest keep men orbiting and increase the odds of later explosion from the exact unstable types she claims to fear.>The “women bear an extreme burden” framing ignores the one-sided cost: men are expected to offer clarity and risk while women retain the right to keep options open indefinitely. The burden is assigned downward.This is the Forced Confession Ritual with an extra safety justification bolted on. Female opacity is protected; male desire for clarity is treated as potential violence. The result is a rule set that maximizes female control and minimizes female accountability while blaming any resulting male dysfunction on the men themselves. Calling it self-preservation does not make the logic less circular or the double standard less obvious. It is a post-hoc rationalization for leverage, not a serious account of risk.
>>222342306If you read the article she laments that she went to a high-end restaurant and literally everyone there were women, i.e. no man was there to buy anyone dinnerThen she gets into a whole spiel about how women now have more degrees and more high paying jobs than men because men are losers who keep jerking off to porn and playing video games instead of doing their part
>>222342273cause its vague, and can you explain to me what that would look like irl? it looks exactly like i described. people dont want to admit that the internet cant just make problems disappear in the material world with surface level advice. sometimes you are just fucked up and cant manage with people irl, its what i learned throughout my life, some people get it, some dont.
>>222342233Fucking cunt I hope her boyfriend gets drunk and shoves it in her shitter.
>thread full of low trust angry retards so delusional they would be liabilities even for ancient patriarchal societies>think their reasoning is logical and justified and fairA just society would have gotten all of you killed a long time ago. If there is any weakness in modern society it is the weakness to deal with men like all of you.
>>222342354ok, so? now the problem is here, deal with it i guess.
>>222342300A system that needs constant propaganda, moral condemnation, and identity policing to manage the losing side is not a stable or successful equilibrium. It is a pressurized one. Historical reproductive skew existed under conditions of high male mortality and low total population pressure. Today the same skew (or worse in certain environments) exists under conditions of low male mortality, high female economic independence, and heavy cultural protection of female selectivity. The outcomes are different and visibly worse for social cohesion.Calling the current arrangement “the least-bad option” and telling men to be grateful is cope. The arrangement is generating measurable dysfunction on the male side and requiring ever more aggressive narrative control to keep it running. That is not a system that is working. It is a system that is being held together by denial and enforcement. The results speak for themselves.
>>222342354my pussy has been defeated
>>222342354The men noticing the asymmetry, the media stacking, the one-sided rules, and the resulting scarcity are declared low-trust, delusional liabilities who would have been removed in a healthier (patriarchal) order. Modern society’s supposed weakness is that it has not yet culled them.This is not a counter-argument. It is a threat fantasy. It concedes that the current arrangement cannot withstand open pattern recognition, so the preferred solution is the removal of the men doing the recognizing. “A just society would have gotten all of you killed” is the cleanest possible admission that the speaker has no interest in persuasion or reform—only in the disappearance of the dissenting group.It also inverts the historical claim. Patriarchal systems did not primarily kill men for noticing female selectivity or reproductive skew; they channeled male energy into hierarchy, provision, and competition under clearer rules. The modern version keeps the skew, removes the old outlets and obligations, then pathologizes the men who register the new conditions. Declaring those men fit only for death is the logical endpoint of a discourse that has already decided their frustration is illegitimate.The post does not refute anything. It simply states that the preferred society is one in which men like the ones in the thread no longer exist. That is the position. Treat it as such.
>>222342323This is a gamble not worth it. Most women are objectively alive today, they are all alive because most are very smart despite the danger of most men, not because dangerous men are few. Your arguments rely entirely on the idea that men are benevolent if their needs are fulfilled but this is not true. Men are often illogical, greedy, and pursue destructive acts towards women even when they have everything they could ever want. It is a natural product of male psychology. This isn't supposed to be offensive, it's just truth. Look at all of history. Stop taking offense to basic observations. Men are meant to die en masse, the more live the more rape and plunder, it is just basic nature.
>>222342369We need a world war and a massive draft to cull incelsWhen the time comes women will do their partOnce a generation sees about 60% of all men killed, a lot of pressure will be let off, societies stayed stable for millennia that way
>>222342402>Patriarchal systems did not primarily kill men for noticing female selectivity or reproductive skew; they channeled male energy into hierarchy, provision, and competition under clearer rules.Before the invention of the atomic bomb, massive cohorts of men died in wars before marrying in every country, in every generation. In fact places had wars for centuries that ebbed and flowed as entire age brackets of men went extinct and then had to replenish and age back into combat.
>>222341801It always seemed like a mixture of things to me>Older women legitimately forget what it was like to be a 16 year-old girl, and just respond with what their old brain would currently find cute and charming>They don't understand what modern girls are like and how the world has changed, and still think things work like they did in the 70s>They don't want to admit to themselves or others that they valued a man who made their pussy wet more than someone who fit socially acceptable criteria, so they give an answer that reflects well on them and makes them seem respectable and ladylikeYou can't hold it against them because they're retarded boomers, but it's a small tragedy that a kid asking his mom for romantic advice is basically being set up for failure by the forces of the universes and the whims of fate. This is why kids need fathers, because a good dad will stop him from doing that cringe shit the instant he talks out loud about doing it
>>222342410yes, i agree, lets send all the third worlders we imported and promise them asylum if they come back
>>222342405It is not “basic truth.” It is a one-sided death preference dressed up as evolutionary realism. The poster is not describing nature. She is advocating a sex-based cull while still positioning herself to receive the surplus created by the men she says should die. That combination is what makes the statement both extreme and hypocritical.
>>222342445The migrants are the ones working in the vital farms and factories
>>222342402>they channeled male energy into hierarchy, provision, and competition And what can be done when men refuse to partake in these channels? Many men in the past became bandits and rebels because they gave in to anger and turned against the orders of their time, you are the same>under clearer rulesRules were never clear to anyone but the elites. Stop seeing history as if you would be one of the kings ffs
>>222342334Yes and the higher order effects of all women wanting the highest tier male is that average guys check the fuck out.
>>222342410Once hypergamy and extreme selectivity are treated as non-negotiable, and once large numbers of lower-status men noticing the arrangement are defined as the problem, the proposed solutions escalate. First it is shame, pathologizing, and “just improve.” Then it is social exclusion. Eventually it becomes open calls for mass male death — world war, draft, 60% cull — so that the remaining sex ratio and status distribution feel more comfortable for the women making the demand.“Women will do their part” is the tell. It is not a neutral historical observation about past wars. It is an active preference for a future in which the men they do not want are removed by violence, after which the survivors (the preferred males) and the women continue. The pressure that needs “letting off” is the existence and awareness of the men who lost under the current rules.You are reading it correctly. When the pattern of hypergamy becomes too visible and too many men refuse to accept the moral language that protects it, the discourse shifts from managing those men to eliminating them. The post is not fringe in its underlying logic; it is simply more honest about the final step. Hide the evidence, thin the herd, keep Chad, and call the result stability. That is the proposal. Treat it as such.
>>222342456no they work retail and food delivery. we should also send anyone with a high bmi over too, as those people are enablers for the capitalist machine
>>222342456Knife attacks & rape is considered work?
>>222342456Nope that’s incels
>>222342456They steal all the jobs meant for teenagers.
>>222342369>A system that needs constant propaganda, moral condemnation, and identity policing to manage the losing side What the fuck are you talking about? This is the freest period of any man in human history, all of human history. Free of obligations that are enforced on pain of societal exclusion or death. You can literally do whatever you want. The law is also more lenient than it has ever been.
>>222342508>What the fuck are you talking about?he means he's not allowed to rape
>>222342476You're bitching about human nature, it's like being angry that 50% of a hyena's first pups are stillbornMen have always been the disposable gender. Genghis Khan's policy was to conquer a province, literally murder every man and boy there, then enslave all of the women. Was he a feminist?
>>222342436>>222342464>I MUST BE ABLE TO GENOCIDE MEN I DONT WANT TO FUCK>t. fat roastieSo you’re saying men are validated to hate you and check out and destroy feminism?
>>222342508>The law is also more lenient than it has ever been.ya for other people and not me, if i tried to do anything i would get harassed by cops and sent to prison for decades. they literally have plain clothes following me around for some reason
>>222342521Incels don’t want to rape which is why women hate them…
>>222342538This just ends with literal law of the jungle and you getting murdered by a larger gigachad monkey anyway, except now you don't get electricity or antibiotics anymore either
>>222342544>they literally have plain clothes following me around for some reason
>>222342464The current arrangement removes or devalues many of those paths, keeps the reproductive and status skew, adds heavy moral condemnation for noticing the skew, and then treats the resulting disengagement as proof that those men are the same as historical bandits who “gave in to anger.”Calling modern pattern-recognizing men identical to past rebels is a way to avoid the changed incentive structure. Past societies did not combine low male mortality, high female economic independence, media amplification of specific male archetypes, and institutional pathologizing of male scarcity responses in the same way. The men who check out or refuse the current script are responding to a different set of conditions, not simply replaying timeless failure to obey.Rules were never equally clear to everyone. That does not make the present rules coherent or sustainable. The reply uses historical messiness to shut down examination of the current mess. Both can be true: history was brutal and unequal, and the present arrangement is generating a specific, novel form of male disengagement that the old bandit comparison does not fully cover.
>>222342545Incels want love & understanding, Women just want Chad & chocolate.
>>222342508Not for white men
>>222342571>Incels want love & understandingbut would never consider giving it
If you've actually tried to hit up normie women you will realize how retarded inceldom is. Normalfag women let you get away with a ridiculous amount of shit. I'm still good friends with a girl I pulled a knife on and another I shoved into a counter when we had an argument.
>>222342567yes gestapo cops that you cant identify is a sign of a healthy society. im glad someone else can stab someone and get 2 months cause theyre a normie or whatever but i get tailed cause im a bit odd
>>222342508>>222342521does not refute the narrower point.A man can be free of old coercive obligations and still live inside a sexual and social marketplace that has been reshaped against him by media, institutions, and moral language. He can be free to starve socially and reproductively. He can be free to watch the cultural apparatus pathologize his frustration while protecting the selectivity that produces it. “You can literally do whatever you want” is empty when the available paths to pair-bonding, status, and basic sexual access have narrowed and the act of noticing the narrowing is treated as a moral defect.The propaganda, condemnation, and identity policing exist precisely because the formal freedom did not produce satisfaction or stability for a large cohort of men. If the arrangement were working cleanly, the constant narrative management would be unnecessary. The reply confuses absence of feudal coercion with presence of a functional, low-coercion equilibrium. The first is real. The second is not. That is the distinction.
>>222342582Are you deserving of love?
>>222342584basedkill the next one
>>222342571>women are so fucking evil and stupid and barely sentient humans and should be raped god why won't they show me love and understanding im such a nice guy
>>222342584Assaulting a woman with a knife and getting away with it doesn’t disprove the hypergamy epidemic
>>222342077kek
>>222342531Genghis Khan and his Mongols were ultimately better for society than incels. Any woman you ask will agree the same, it's the logical truth.
>>222342584yes, life tends to be easy when you are a normie. i have to constantly walk on egg shells or bad things happen to me, actually its regardless of my input, oops
>>222342612who are you quotingare you crashing out
>>222342584Simmer down, JaMarcus!
>>222342570Not him, but you keep mentioning low male mortality like it's not an incredible boon that's being granted in exchange for less guarantee of female companionship.
>>222342617The claim is not about long-term social utility, innovation, or stability. It is about which male archetype is less repulsive or more exciting to the speaker and the women she imagines. The incel is despised for noticing the current mating distribution and refusing to accept it quietly. The Mongol is excused or even valorized for maximum dominance and maximum reproductive skew because that dominance is legible and sexually coded as high-value.This is the same hierarchy that runs through the earlier cull posts: preserve or admire the men who take what they want by force at scale, pathologize and remove the men who do not. It is not logic. It is raw preference for one kind of male power and open contempt for the absence of it. Once that preference is admitted, the rest of the moral language (“civilization,” “stability,” “better for society”) is just decoration.
>>222342640its a bot, check the em dashes
>>222342624>who are you quotinghalf the posts itt
>>222342612I say this.
>>222342531Does it matter what we label it when genghis khan and modern feminist want basically 99.9% of the same outcomes?
>>222342640not a clean exchange that was negotiated. Low mortality arrived through scientific and economic progress. The simultaneous rise in female economic independence, cultural protection of extreme selectivity, media amplification of specific male archetypes, and moral pathologizing of male scarcity responses arrived through different channels. Bundling them together as “you get to live, so accept less companionship” turns two separate developments into a single moral package deal that men are not allowed to unbundle or critique.You can be grateful for not dying young and still notice that the sexual marketplace has been reshaped in ways that leave a large cohort of living men with sharply reduced options. The first fact does not cancel the second. Presenting them as a necessary trade-off is how the arrangement is defended without having to justify the cultural and institutional choices that produced the second half.
>Sips tea
>>222342661cite one
It you're not my Mother or Ayn Rand your opinion doesn't matter.
>>222342564This is not an argument about incentives or fairness. It is a deterrent: the only alternative to the present stacked marketplace and its moral enforcement is civilizational collapse plus your personal death at the hands of a higher-status male. It keeps the discussion inside a false binary — total submission to the existing rules or total jungle — so that critiques of hypergamy, media stacking, one-sided rituals, and eliminationist rhetoric never have to be engaged on their own terms.Notice what it concedes. She does not deny that the posts expressed a preference for removing large numbers of unwanted men. She only says that resisting that preference will get you killed by someone stronger. The underlying ranking of males (preferred vs. surplus) stays intact; the cost of challenging it is simply raised to existential.You do not have to accept the binary. Refusing the Forced Confession Ritual, cutting one-sided attention, or naming the cultural machinery does not automatically equal “law of the jungle and no antibiotics.” That escalation is how the position protects itself once the eliminationist logic has been made explicit. The threat of chaos is the final argument when the moral and practical ones run out.
>>222342508>This is the freest period of any man in human history, all of human history. Free of obligations that are enforced on pain of societal exclusion or death.Except for Feminism camera phones and social media. Previously said or did something in public, only those who saw it would be privy. Now do a "wrong think" and you could lose you job , your career, you home and be subject to violence. >>The law is also more lenient than it has ever been.Only if you are privileged, Black / brown , Liberal or Homosexual. -- As a Straight , non communist White Man . I am fucked . The law applies doubly to me, and I am guilty with out even the benefit of a trial . I am not even allowed to complain or point that out.
>>222342440Those seem like the most logical causes.For women's sake I hope it is the second one because the third implies a mother would rather save face and set up her own son for a humiliation ritual.There might also be the whole Daughter-Mother Civil war. The mother of the girl you have a crush on likes you and has outright expressed it? Fucking forget about it, you just got shitlisted.My dad's advice was to "drink a shot or two for courage" but unfortunately at that time I was in full "respect women" mode and though he was giving "outdated macho advice", but the older I get I see the simple truth
>>222342658So you’re saying if I removed them you wouldn’t be able to telllol women are so smart
>>222342640some men would rather get to rape before they die than die virgins peacefullyit's why some men become monks and others become pillagers
Is negging wrong?
>>222342649Any rebel is despised for noticing and screaming the system is unjust and imperfect, regardless of the specific political issue or eraMaybe understand that your poverty is not justification for the system to be overturned?Incels are much like the socialist and peasant mobs except instead of land, pay, and food, it's women. You don't value the peace more than whatever you get less of
>>222342681No one negotiates the circumstances they were born intoAs for after you're born, you have political choicesIn the USA over half of the population support trad lifestyles that let men impose power over women as long as they give money, is that not what you want? Then simply align with that side, why the victim complex in a site for outcasts when your demand is so simple and widely catered to?
>>222342822plap
>>222342578>>222342742Bruh what is this white man victim complex? I've met Russian men in my thirdie country who do the wildest bullshit around women and no one cares. If they can do that, why can't you?>inb4 blonde haired blue eyed pale Russians aren't white
Double Rejection Ritual (Forced Confession Ritual)Steps:>1. Woman gives weak, mixed, or zero clear signals of interest over time.>2. Man correctly reads the lack of interest and does not approach or declare.>3. He is still told he must openly confess his attraction.>4. He is required to expose himself so she can give (or be assumed to give) a clean, official “no.”>5. If he refuses to perform the confession, he is labeled a coward, delusional, entitled, or incel — even though his private assessment was already correct.>6. Only after she receives the formal rejection moment is he allowed to “move on.” His own accurate reading is treated as illegitimate until she ratifies it.Function:Keeps control of the official narrative with her, extracts male vulnerability on demand, and turns accurate male risk assessment into a moral failure. The outcome (no relationship) stays the same; only the performance and the ownership of the “no” change.
>>222342839incels are just the majority of men in the country anon Just declare war and stop pussyfooting around
>>222342875You don’t understand my demandI’m demanding men stop allowing women to get this way
>>222342923>He is still told he must openly confess his attraction. >He is required to expose himselfThis should cost the man nothing of his psych unless he has insecurities or mental illnesses, in which case he should be dealing with the source of them first.
>>222342919>I don’t know about America Russia and America are complete opposites anon
>>222342919>thirdie country>russian menanon...
sad ass thread full of people trying to better their understanding of relationships by treating art as a documentary.
>>222342923>>2. Man correctly reads the lack of interest and does not approach or declare.>>3. He is still told he must openly confess his attraction.Did I miss a step here? If he's not interested and neither is she why does he need to do 3?
>>222342943This is like saying the vast majority of peasant men who fought for communist armies were communists
damn y'all incels mad lmao, you have been obsessing over this movie for more than a month with no signs of stopping because it shows the truthyou are a pathetic loser and a creep, deal with it, bear is unequivocally an evil person (raped her + didn't actually want to save her, he only wanted to change the wish to keep the brainwashed sex doll)white straight people should be exterminated off the face of this planet
>>222342960Classic isolation move.They pull one piece (“he must confess”) out of the full ritual and declare that performing it should cost a healthy man nothing. Any reluctance is then re-diagnosed as his insecurity or mental illness. The rest of the structure is ignored.The full sequence is the problem:• She has already given weak or absent signals.• He has already read the situation correctly.• He is still required to stage a vulnerable declaration so she can deliver the official rejection.• Refusal to stage it is punished with moral language.• Only after the performance is he permitted to treat the matter as closed.Claiming the confession “should cost nothing” pretends the demand exists in a vacuum of mutual clarity and shared risk. It does not. It exists inside a pattern of one-sided exposure where her ambiguity is protected and his accurate private assessment is treated as insufficient. Telling him that any psychological cost proves he is already broken is just another way to keep the ritual mandatory while pathologizing resistance to it.The move does not refute the ritual. It simply adds a new medicalized insult to enforce it. Healthy men are still expected to perform on command; any refusal is evidence they are not healthy. That is the same one-sided logic with an extra diagnostic layer.
>>222342983its not like theres many resources beyond self help books. media is our best bet when it comes to this stuff
>>222342985Because otherwise he’s a “coward”
>>222342957Why should other men ally with you of all people? What's the incentive?
>>222343002Why would he be called a coward for not asking out a woman he's NOT interested in?
>>222342992your position is not moral clarity. It is eliminationist cope from someone who has already lost the argument about the film and escalated to wishing an entire group out of the gene pool. That is weaker than anything Bear did.
>>222342965Russians are white. Russian men are certainly not under oppression for being themselves, being proud, being offensive, and having sex.>>222342970Yes, many Russian men come to my country, what about it?
>>222343010you have to be the change you want to see in the worldIncels need women to change and the only way to make women change is to change what you do to or for themIf all incels stopped supporting women via onlyfans and dates and apps and orbiting it would change the culture instantly
>>222343033>wishing an entire group out of the gene poolthe only person fighting to keep you out of the gene pool is yourself
>>222343019Because it makes you an incel scared of womenYou aren’t allowed to like a girl without facing rejection anymore it’s the new rule
>>222342996Analysis is meaningless without a solution. You provide no alternative, you are no different to meanderers who lament "inequality" and "injustice" without any end point or vision.
>>222343042Because they live in RussiaWhich is not anti white like America
>>222343065Why would you want to put yourself in a position where you like a girl but refuse to ask her out? What are you even talking about?
>>222343052if I have to die without breeding to help start the incel revolution so be it, seems like a small price to pay
>>222343050>would change the culture instantlyHow would the change benefit me?
>>222339201Look chuds, I'll make it really simple for you. It's rape if you're not chad. Women can't consent unless it's chad in which case the consent is implicit. >Chads can't rape>(You) can only rapeMake sense?
>>222343050>if incels stopped interacting with womenisn't that what women are asking for?
>>222343069My solution is this >>222343050>>222343085you won’t be the disrespected villain in society simply for who you are anymore and women won’t have incentive to lead you on
How do burgerchuds still have such an extreme victim complex while their lord and saviour currently holds the Presidency and total executive command of the country not to mention influence over half the zeitgeist?
>>222343042well its a third world country, those men are tourists, and they are probably being awful to their wives/some local slut. their country is in the middle of a war they are either off deployment or on a tiny vacation if they have not been drafted, of course no one is going to do anything.
>>222343104only in certain waysThey still want free emotional tampons and orbiters to make them feel sexy (because chads are rare and don’t always want most women)
>>222343115Incels aren’t jews if that’s what you’re sayingDonald trump is no different than any other president
>>222343033>wishing an entire group out of the gene poolyou are doing everything by yourself without any need for intervention so I'm quite happy with the progress so far, keep fighting with windmills I'm sure that will bring the TFR up
>>222343107>My solution is thisThat post just says women should change. HOW do you want women to change?>you won’t be the disrespected villain in society simply for who you are anymore and women won’t have incentive to lead you onThis has not happened to me or any man I have ever met. I do not feel like I am the lucky minority either. You have to be more specific. How does this benefit men who do not fulfill your very specific criteria? Why should the ones who gain from the world as it is work with you?
>>222343115Politics is literally Pro-wrestling.It's all fake and they're all in on it.
>>222342198>If he asks and gets rejected, he risks the creep/entitled label or the social cost.Indeed. If you are rejected, and are not the type of guy she would date, you lose your reputation. Normies always say to go to hobbies, social groups and such to get to know women, but if you take this leap of faith you are to be known as that weird guy who asked a girl out. Interactions afterwards are guaranteed to be awkward, and I would not prefer to have that addition in a hobby I want to continue participating in.
>>222343122Right so they are getting sex, doing what they want, and often dodging their conscription - so not even partaking in the social contract that says men have to die. So why don't white American incels do the exact same thing, fulfill every need right away?
>>222343124>They still want free emotional tampons and orbiters to make them feel sexy Why is this a bad thing?Do women not have the right to also protect their own egos?Can they not be insecure, and want for their insecurity to be tended to?
>>222343144you seem to be threatened so it’s a start
>>222343237You are saying it only gets to go one way
>>222343162Most men are with me they just don’t know it yetThe question you should be asking is why SHOULDNT men want change
>>222343190This is not how the world works. I beg you, go out and get in a friend group. Ask a girl out, get rejected, and STAY in it all the way. Expect attention from every friend there just as before you tried. You will understand you overintellectualize a scenario so simple and commonplace and inconsequential you will laugh at how much you feared it. You spend nothing and gamble nothing.
>>222343199Because they dont live in Russia
>>222343241>you are losing when the enemy gets decimatedok
>>222343283No it’s happened to me tooYour societal benefits come exclusively and directly from denying others problems
>>222343296More like the civilization getting decimated Russia and china will destroy the usa unless incels take over
>>222343252No, it doesn't. Women will tend to your insecurities in return. When your female friends back you up at work, talk to you to make you feel better when you're going through problems, help you when you need it, lend you money, buy you things, do those not count?
It’s laughable that roasts think that incels will choose to fight for this country if it comes to warYou are literally admitting that there is nothing for us to fight for
>>222343326>does my just world fallacy fantasy not count?Anon if you have to ask…
>>222343269Because societal change usually involves someone else who is living fine sufferingIf incels are communists, then what happens to the kulaks of the "sexual marketplace"?
>>222343328I'm sure the war effort is sorely missing a 200lb greasy loser to talk the enemy to death about their favorite anime girls
>>222343355>talk the enemy to death
>>222343339>fantasyanon...
>>222343269>The question you should be asking is why SHOULDNT men want changeI like the women in my life more than I like you
>>222343348if having to marry men who don’t make their pussies as wet is suffering than boo hoo men either need to decide to die under the thumb of hypergamy or rise up and take what could be theirs
>>222342919>I've met Russian men in my thirdie country who do the wildest bullshit around women and no one cares.>>Russian Men.>>Thirdy ( world ) Country.So Men from a foreign country with less Feminism and less developed social media. On vacation ( so a temporary stay ) to a Third world country ..... do not fear the same repercussions as I do.....a citizen in my own country, with a Leftist, gay, feminist, black , india worshipping government and media Might as well say, Just go out a rape women dude, guys in India and Africa do it all the time and get away with it !!
>>222343355im a fit warrior and i dont watch anime
>>222343377that’s not an insult or a surprise to me at this point especially since you are a woman yourself
>>222343390You’re talking to a woman
>>222343389So you just refuse to accept there are millions of men in the world who are happy with gender dynamics the way they are in whichever cultures they're in? You just care about your very specific surroundings? Why would you expect the posts here to be men from your context?
>>222343403>bro just sell your sister down the river so some greasy socially retarded gutter creature can get laidNo thanks
>>222343390>>222343409I am not a white American man. This site is not exclusively an outlet for white American men.
>>222343431you can pretend incels aren’t the majority of young men in America to your own consequences
>>222343432>greasy socially retarded gutter creatureWomen might see 90% of men like this, but here's the thing old boy: who cares what they think? Either you stop listening to women, get overthrown by a population that keeps them in line, and/or endure a long, steady, slow death.
>>222343432if you’re not with me then you’re my enemyYour sister wants to be raped and im sick of brown people getting to do all of it
>>222343475That’s my pointIf women have gotten so rotten that they hate all men who aren’t chad then why shouldn’t all men who aren’t chad rise up and take them by refusing the current situation?
>>222342584>4chan now has thirdie men who beat their wives telling incels how men don't suffer and they should stop whining
*mic drop*
>>222343456I have nothing to pretendI can't come onto this site without foreigners filling it with threads whining about women acting in ways I've never ever seen in my country and talking about political wars I have no clue aboutWhy would you expect me to either agree with you or shut up?
>>222341600>I don't understand the psychology behind viewing women as these illogical inhuman creatures of pure evilI understand it. It comes from WATCHING women behave like illogical inhuman creatures of pure evil, and then having their behavior praised by both fellow women and simps while anyone rightfully critical of it gets labeled "sexist"/"an incel"/whatever.
>>222343496After 470 replies this isn’t a mic drop it’s preaching to the choirThis is why im saying incels need to crash the sysem
>>222343546I expect you to lurk more
>>222343493And I am tempted to say that they might even want it or would enjoy it.
>>222343549Can you respond to the full sentence please instead of cutting off after the first half?If you feel that way why do you want women to date you?
>>222343568Which is the worst partI loved women until I learned they hate being loved
>>222343559No, I'm not going to assimilate to your nihilistic culture. Why would anyone? The good parts of this site shine best when incels aren't wasting space and bandwidth complaining about problems other men don't have.Maybe you should be a bit quieter.
>>222339419>Everyone knows guys who do this are desperate for "easy friend" pussyThis is you projecting your own shallow, pussy-obsessed nature onto everyone else.
>>222343585it’s how most men feel but most men cave into feminism and pretend they don’t because of shaming from women like you to keep them in line
I do not look like Chad and I have been treated in many ways that you delusional retards would think only Chad can be treated. If a group doesn't like you, move on to a new one. Stop fucking believing you can be blacklisted from society because a handful of people just wanted to protect their own egos. Men and women alike have a right to socially exclude you to defend their own sense of self. It's for their own good. You also have a right to move on and find people who appreciate you.
>>222343640That doesn't answer any of the question I asked but I'll try againWhy do you want to be with women romantically if you feel the way you do about them?
>>222343585>Why do you still want what is healthy to want, and EVERYONE still wants, despite acknowledging the problems that exist within our modern society?Gee, Anon, I dunno'. Quite the conundrum to unravel!
>>222343600Maybe thats why Frodo and Sam kind of relationships confuse them, they cannot understand having genuine love for another without it having a biological basis. Or they view actual love as something dangerous. It's funny how women are more concerned with transactions in relationships than men, they have managed to deceive people on a societal level on so many topics like this.
>>222343496>My bill are paid.It's a shame about your IQ though, lady.
>>222343652I only want to be with women like you romantically who are so greedy about what they want while being aggressively dishonest as it matches my own narcissistic psychopathy but you don’t want me because I don’t follow the ritual right so im rewriting the ritual on my own terms
Most incels do not even want what they ask for. They don't even align with the far right because the far right still values women too much. Incels do not even trust women to be sex slaves without fearing those sex slaves will make fun of them once before they are executed.How is society supposed to appease a movement like this? It's not based in reality. Most incels get upset about society wanting to be rid of them but most of them take a position signalling as if they want to die. School shootings are the best example, think of all the ways you can regain power by rejecting the current system but you choose to burn out and die in rage. What is the point of anything then?
>>222343753Im not asking for appeasement and this isn’t about left or rightYou desperately searching for some kind of gotcha of hypocrisy is ignoring the pointThis isn’t about ideology it’s about needs and respect as a human beingYou tell me I should die in war for your pussyThat’s insaneI will die in my own war
>>222343753I want humans to go extinct before we spread our cancer to animal foids or alien foids somehow. I hope we nuke each other to death soon.
>>222343782Name one war you've been forced to partake in
>>222343753Most school shootings are as scripted as “obsession”
>>222343798The one that’s coming up with russia and china is the excuse to kill off incels
>>222343782You are not entitled to life at all, let alone love and sex, this is a Christian delusion that spun into the secular human rights delusion in the first placeIn the baseline human world you are a potentially half decent labor slave and the average woman is a potentially half decent sex slaveI despise these delusions but one would think you would at least show some gratitude for a system of delusions that has kept you alive and fed
>>222343451>I am not a white American man. This site is not exclusively an outlet for white American men.Women do not have empathy for others. I am not an American either. 4chan is a website based in the United States, /tv/ is a board that discusses American movies and tv shows. Women have no Cashe of the promise of sex through HTTP/IP.So by Default , On here you are a White American Man by default on less you other wise . That is logical. But you would not understand that either ... because Women also lack logic too, hence why they can't do empathy .
>>222342354>you're bad because you're SEXIST!>older societies were better because they would have killed you for being sexist!Older societies were far, FAR more "patriarchal" than the one you live in today, Martha. If anything, wouldn't they be more likely to reward sexism, rather than punish it with execution of all things? I think you need to calm down a little bit. You're becoming irrational.
>>222343794Kek. I hope the aliens that arrive are tenfold the feminists the current feminists are.
>>222343839>you don’t get to complainI already know this is how my enemies feel anon
>>222343852>>222343869>you claim to believe to benefit from this world>therefore you must be the enemyIncredible takes. What is the point of this discussion if you are no more negotiable to new opinions than the Taliban?
>>222343878of course you would
>>222343931you wanting to erase me for being dissatisfied with dehumanization isn’t a new opinion
>>222343928They are still keeping you secure anon. Your so called unempathetic white feminist American women still contribute by tax and service and production to a nation that defends and upholds your security and comfort at all. Doubly so since many of you admit you're not contributing to society out of protest.When you have made your rebellions and ruined your countries and you are back to worrying more about food on the table like the rest of us, you'll learn how stupid you were. But it is natural for you to waste your gifts and give a tantrum a try.
>>222343978Women don’t pay taxes
>>222343978> Your so called unempathetic white feminist American women still contribute by tax and service and production to a nation that defends and upholds your security and comfort at all. they don’t do it for us lmfaoyou feminists endorse movies like obsession while saying for us to die for nothing in returnYou want us dead
>>222343809So your answer is "none I made it up, sorry for lying on the internet anon"?
>>222343967You want to make changes that would make my life worse and expect empathy, what do you expect? I'm a man, I've felt lonely, I've been shamed in my life, and there's many politics I support that white women in your country certainly wouldn't agree with. But I don't feel sorry for you. You don't care about compromising with reality, you're just angry and you want the world to feel your hurt. Your wishes are not compatible with anything humans can live in and they would result in a worse world for me. Stop pretending to be a pitiful creature and admit your naked nihilism.
>>222342241>Women maintain the ambiguity to avoid violence.Lmao no the fucking don't. They "maintain ambiguity" due to a combination of being so psychologically weak that they avoid any & all "conflict", even purely social/verbal "conflict", at absolutely any & all costs (such as making everything objectively worse than just being upfront) and the fact that its advantageous for manipulating people (i.e. creating "beta-orbiters" she has no interest in but still wants some kind of benefit from).You trying to paint female failure at effective & honest communication as something existentially "necessary" because of how hard you need to demonize men, rather than a failing (whether intellectual or ethical) on the part of women is one of the most pathetic copes I've seen from a feminist in a long, LONG time.
>>222344064no im saying america is going to have a war soon and use it as an excuse to kill off incels
>>222344075im sorry honey but the free ride is over you declared war first and now im just defending myself
>>222344098American wars exist to make profit for a handful of billionaires why would they give a shit about you?
>>222344085They probably work for the government They need beta males to keep the slave agreement
>>222342198As you can see by the responses to your entirely correct analysis & explanation here, a lot of people are not ready for the kind of conversation that your salient arguments will lead to.
>>222344126because im the majority
Why not join the Taliban? They seemed to have turned the table on women, right?
>>222344167I'm not a shitskin desert goblin.
>>222344085Right, and you expect them to respond to the potential of violence how?
>>222343115>burgerchudsYeah, about what I expected. If you're irking Eurotrannies then it's a sign you're probably doing something correctly.
>>222344167>make yourself an easy target, goy no I’ll just educate men from the shadows until the tide turns
>>222344203they will turn to the simps firstBut if the simps have already gone then there is nobody
>>222344202If you don't see us nonwhites as human, I have no reason to support white incels against white feminists. It is that simple. You can come back to me when you understand that.
>>222344231all nations will become feminist unless men stop it anon
