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Am I being punked?

I'm halfway thru and I don't understand all the praise
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>>222340193
>anime
dumbass gorilla
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>>222340193
Did you put your grasses on?
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Did you put you’re grasses on?
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>>222340312
>>222340326
>>222340329
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its just not for you I guess
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>>222340344
with incels interlinked
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>>222340193
Watch the whole thing, you'll get it.
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>>222340193
The praise is mostly for the manga. The '97 anime is liked because it's the best screen adaptation we have, but the manga is really where it's at.
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i just watched a serious recap and if anything this show is underrated. goddamn kino. wait til the end bro. I never watched the new season(s) but they look kinda shit from the recap.
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>>222340193
Yes anon, every human in existence pretends to like things, if you are told somebody likes something, you are being bamboozled.
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You gotta keep in mind two main things: the 97 anime shows the Band of the Hawk arc which doesn't happen in the manga for some time so you don't get the build up which is part of what makes it kino in the manga. You see Guts go from a lone swordsman to the part of his life where he feels a sense of belonging and slowly lets his guard down. And also, the animation in the anime although good is fairly basic especially when compared with the manga which features ultra detailed panels that punctuate the narrative and are a huge part of Berserk's appeal. But ya even the golden age part of Berserk is kino, just stick with it.
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>>222340193
It's one of those "you aren't allowed to dislike it" reddit moments from insecure weeboids. Like NGE and LOGH.
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>>222340193
It's one of the few anime/manga worth a shit, that's the thing that differentiates it basically. No one said it's incredible, although the art at the very least is legit quite good.
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>>222340193
>illustrator makes decent comic book as a young adult
>it blows up, he is now locked into the manga for good
>creator gets bored and tired, work slows down, he focuses on other projects as he realizes life is short and he doesnt want to just be the "berserk" guy
>has to go back to working on it, clearly hates what he made atp
>dies of stress
its alright but its still a comic book, will only really appeal to teens and manchildren
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>>222340950
dumb take
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>>222340959
whats dumb about it
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>>222340950
The Tower of Conviction is still great, the JRPG party sections of the manga are worse but still enjoyable, I can't remember where it starts to get stale, maybe when they're on the boat. Lol... I'm on a boat, I'm on a boat!
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>>222340193
Read the manga nigger, the art is magical and is part of why it was good.
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>>222340970
the presumption that the author had been hard-locked into making berserk manga and that this somehow led to his death
also the assumption that a medium can only appeal to teens for featuring illustrations, when you can literally tell any kind of story that way (including ones that include decidedly inappropriate topics for teens like rape/graphic violence)
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>>222340980
Tower of Conviction was the peak, and it dropped off pretty hard after that
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>>222340193
edgelord slop for 2deep4u teenagers
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Crazy how Miura and Toriyama, 2 absolutely legends, both died from the Fauci's jab and he just got away with it
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>>222340999
Trips of truth. Read the manga.
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>>222341006
>inappropriate topics for teens like rape/graphic violence
lol this is why its for teens. come on man its just a guy playing with dolls making them fight eachother, its like saying crossed is for adults. the illustration quality is good, and can be appreciated by adults, but the story in my opinion is lacklustre beyond golden age.
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Lost Children is kino, and I'd love to see it adapted into a standalone movie. It's really about the two girls, and Guts is a terrifying fucker in it.
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>>222341071
>its like saying crossed is for adults
of course it is
media like crossed is the reason rating systems exist in the first place historically, regardless of whether the content is high-brow (i.e. an allegory for why communism is actually good for society despite it failing every time it's been tried)
>but the story in my opinion is lacklustre beyond golden age
that's an entirely different category, plenty of adult-oriented works have bad storytelling
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>>222340750
Literal NPC opinion
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>>222341071
>but the story in my opinion is lacklustre beyond golden age.
Such a filtered take. And not a remotely original one.
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>>222341118
if read literally, yes
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>he fell for the anime meme
1997 anime is good for a powerpoint presentation but read the manga dumbass
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>>222341198
Carried hard by Guts' theme though
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>>222341213
well yeah even the newer anime had a god tier ost shame about everything else
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>>222341112
crossed is for edgy teens and manchildren, rating systems are to inform adults as to what they *can* show their kids, not what kids can get their hands on and watch, especially with internet access. the comic book format is for teens, and the over the top edginess and gory le badass illustrations dont have much to say beyond grief/trauma, and that sticks around until gatsu sama finds new friends and is mostly all better. its not like guts was ever a happy guy to begin with.

>>222341135
i can see how you can appreciate the illustrations, but the main villain never being directly addressed and instead given a fuckoff castle so miura has an excuse to take forever on his "arc," while guts wanders about with retarded casca, is kinda boring. miura essentially removed the two most interesting characters and turned them into one dimensional plot devices.
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Put your grasses on.
https://youtu.be/YLzsuqPJr5w
https://youtu.be/DYAvO-0qtJk
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>>222341304
kids being able to find a way to watch something doesn't mean they should, stop acting retarded
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>>222341304
>i can see how you can appreciate the illustrations, but the main villain never being directly addressed and instead given a fuckoff castle so miura has an excuse to take forever on his "arc," while guts wanders about with retarded casca, is kinda boring. miura essentially removed the two most interesting characters and turned them into one dimensional plot devices.
It's an epic saga with an overarching plot. There's plenty of shonenshit out there if you want your hero and villain to duke it out straight away.
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>>222340193
You're too much of a faggot pussy. Stick to capeshit. Go back in the spider-man threads.
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>>222341652
Shonen and capeshit are the same, not that there's anything wrong with that (/tv/ just hates popular things)
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>>222341669
Bersek isn't shonen and even then, no, capeshit is lamer than action shonen.
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>>222341679
There's capeshit stories that have very similar content to Berserk in terms of the themes being explored and what happens to the characters.
As for your other argument, pic rel
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>>222340193
Read the manga. All the adaptations butcher and leave out the most important parts.
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>>222340391
The movies are much better than the garbage 97 anime that gets rid of Skull Knight.
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>>222341732
Name one capeshit story where the hero gets raped as a kid.
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>>222340193
you need to be unvaxed to get it
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>>222340391
Many such cases
In fact, is there a single instance where the anime is better than the manga/movella? Logth perhaps
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>>222341496
>There's plenty of shonenshit out there if you want your hero and villain to duke it out straight away.
Fact is, the story is never going to get a proper resolution because Miura spent decades on it and petered out instead of driving things forward. Fist of the North Star lasted five years.
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>>222341732
You sound like one of those /co/ck suckers that keep trying to call works that predate their pseudo genre as capeshit. Pro tip, capeshitvis no a real genre, it's just a name for the manchild shit you lot like.
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>>222341805
You can't compare Berserk to FOTNS. One of Miura's biggest influences was Guin Saga which has been running since 1979.
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>>222341790
Probably the recent Jump ones. The gaps between seasons allows them to pace and animate things well compared to the weekly schedule.
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>>222341744
The movies are garbage. Too much CGI. Too many cuts to the plot or retarded shit they made up. Guts almost stabbing Femto during the Eclipse is my personal "fave".
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>>222341852
The movies are by FAR the best adaptation. But I agree the don't hold a candle to the books. Every adaptation has so much important stuff cut out.
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>>222341909
>The movies are by FAR the best adaptation.
How? The 97 anime did omit some things but overall it remained faithful to the narrative and characters. The movies cut way too much out and didn't really seem to understand what they were doing.
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>>222341841
Do you mean shonen jump?
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>>222342009
Yeah.
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>>222340193
I thought the same thing with Jojo, but came away only thinking the show was ok. Nerds overrate everything, it's best to just ignore it so you don't come in with high expectations
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>>222342118
I will always say this but Jojo is hyped up as the most insane thing ever and it's... not, it's just very flamboyant and kind of silly. Baki is actually what people hype Jojo to be.
>>222341790
Baki.
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>>222341748
Is this a real question? Because ironically there's plenty of those, including Spider-Man.
>>222341814
Anon, not only is shonen practically capeshit, it doesn't do capeshit as well (example - My Hero Academia)
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>>222342159
Baki is terrible though
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>>222341744
Skull Knight is probably my favorite side-character and even I think that's a ridiculous notion. The '97 is better all around and should've been revived instead.
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>>222340950
It's more substantial than literally any capeslop, obsessionslop, or nolanslop that gets posted here daily lol
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>>222342256
Baki is fun to watch with friends because you can laugh at how absurd it is. I wouldn't wanna watch/read it in the comfort of my boudoir though.
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>>222342218
K E K
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>>222342218
This isn't real rape, as he left before the creep could do anything. Although Carol Danvers did get raped by her own, to make the Berserk connection. At least Femto and Casca weren't related.
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>>222342375
by her own son*
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>>222342303
Speck and Dorian were the only things that made Baki worth watching. It became really boring when they stopped appearing.
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>>222342159
>Baki.
tried reading the manga but I couldn't stomach the ugliness of it after a while. That said I can appreciate how over the top it is, and its parodies are funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOcg-AdC2Y8
Jojo is fun too, it's just more light-hearted and more reminiscent of old cartoons at times
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>>222342375
>he left before the creep could do anything
What did anon mean by this.
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>>222342218
honestly based
all pedos deserve to hang
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>>222342218
You keep repeating the same thing like a bot, I guess that's one way of telling me you're a frustrated capeshitter.
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>>222340193
I don’t get it either. I like it, and I think the relationship between Guts and Griffith is very interesting, but I have no idea why people act like it’s the greatest story ever told. Especially when no analysis I’ve ever seen of it is by anyone who actually understands it. Even on a surface level. Don’t want to spoil it for you though.
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>>222340193
its a terminal case im afraid. Plebeianism will define you for life i fear OP, along with faggotry.
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>>222342550
but then the usa would have no head of state..
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>>222340193
I think they call that being “filtered”
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>>222342608
>when it's ridiculous fantasy coming from the west, it's slop, but when it's ridiculous fantasy coming from the east, it's high art
Sounds like you're the one in denial
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>>222340193
only the manga is good for berserk
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>>222341046
Not op but you're a tasteless and pretentious moron. Your post is genuinely pathetic and embarrassing.
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>>222342256
Baki is pure unfiltered kino.
>>222342399
Watch the anime. It does a smart thing in that it skips the opening arc and starts with what in the manga is a flashback arc, but it works better because the craziness ramps up well throughout the entire run and even the cart style is a bit more tame and when you eventually get to the grotesque musclemen look you kind of just roll with it.
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>>222342686
he's right tho
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>>222342721
Kek, you're a samefagging retard with shit taste.
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>>222342399
>>222342716
you are literally fucking homosexual, only women and gays would care if a buffed out character is actually attractive or ugly if you're straight you just go " HOLY SHIT!"
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>>222342656
You can't tell the difference because you're a slop lover.
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>>222342767
Who said anything about attractive male characters? Freudian slip, mr. Homo?
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>>222342741
>it's impossible to like a well-regarded series, you can only be a samefag
at this point /tv/ is just bait-central
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>>222342768
If you could explain the difference, I would concede, but you can't. We've all seen both, it's the exact same shit with some occasional cultural differences that you weebs cream yourselves over, like forks being replaced by chop sticks.
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Tom Holland berserk when?
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>>222342716
will try it, thanks. It probably works better in animation aniway
>>222342785
bodied that faggot
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>>222342863
>Tom Holland as Griffith
>Zendaya as Casca
>Idris Elba as Guts
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>>222341104
>i really want the pedo loli chapter to be adapted
Certified bruh moment
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>>222342833
You're a retard that doesn't understand the difference between genre and demographic, what exactly do you want from me?
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>>222343071
The differences are very slight (mostly aesthetic) and the demographic is the same, face it, the familiarity is impossible to ignore
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>>222341790
I thought frieren was an improvement. It genuinely adds something to the story.
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>>222340391
the decision to start the show from the golden age was an improvement
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>>222340193
It's about gay romance
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>>222343112
Doubling down on your retardation is not endearing.
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>>222343509
the first episode was in the black swordsman arc thoughbeit
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Berserk is interesting because it'd about classic stronk silent dude who is capable of self-reflection.
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>>222340312
The anime is the gateway drug. Once people get to the end of it, they have no choice but to get into the manga to know what happens.
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>>222340193
Just finish it. I felt the same way the first time I watched it back in like 2004. You will get it by the end.
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>>222341021
And yet George RR Martin still lives, and still refuses to fucking finish Winds of Winter.
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>>222341104
That was peak "edgy" Guts. Godo bitch slaps his ass back to reality soon after that, and his edgy boy personality manifests itself as the separate Beast of Darkness entity from that point on.
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>>222341257
I love Shiro Sagisu, but I felt like all the wailing guitar kind of missed the point of it all. Guts is supposed to be a tragic figure, while the music is trying to evoke "FUCK YEEEEEAAAH!"
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>>222341852
It fucking blows that it felt like they finally got the ratio down between the CG and 2D animation in the third part, and then the movie series was shitcanned immediately afterward in favor of the godawful TV series. I don't know what they were thinking when it came to that new series, it looks and sounds like a headache manifest.
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>>222340193
The anime is not nearly as good as the manga. I tried to watch the anime a few times and just couldnt get in to it. I'm not even a manga guy in general but Berserk is amazing.
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Daily reminder to anons going to watch this for the first time due to this thread to start with episode 2 and watch episode 1 last. Im just paying it forward from some anon years ago on a similar thread
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>>222342375
That whole Carol Danvers thing is completely fucked.

>Raped by a interdimensional sorceror or some shit
>She gets impregnated, and the baby is the medium by which the rapist can manifest on Earth
>It quickly grows into an adult, and he essentially abducts a brainwashed Carol so that he can keep raping her at his leisure, with the full blessing of her fellow Avengers because they think that she's in love
>She finally comes to her senses and escapes back to Earth, only for Rogue to steal her powers for like 20 years (real world time)
>Then she's captured by the Brood and genetically experimented on, which turns her into Binary

Carol had a hard life, man.
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>>222341104
The count arc and lost children are what I remember Berserk for.
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>>222341737
the anime is much more effective in its pacing in terms of the fantasy aspect of the show
that being said, once you are familiar with the story, there is nothing wrong with how the manga unfolds
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>>222340193
It's a show for humans, of course you wouldn't get it.
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>>222344374
I liked the original anime enough to watch the slop they shit out in the 2010s, but I will not read the manga because from what I hear, nothing happens. I fully believe it because it's super common with manga, the Japs drag nothing out for as long as they possibly can, in this case the mangaka literally did it until the day he died.
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>>222345511
You idiot.
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>>222340193
read Nietzsche first
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>>222340193
Filtered
>>222340326
Kek
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>>222340193
Berserk's best part is the Golden Age arc which is a self-contained story which while simple (relatively) mogs most of fantasy

The rest of the manga is mostly miss NOW because Filthy Frank lookalike decided to delaminate his aorta and there will never be a proper ending to the main story.
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>>222345779
I'm basically ignoring the series until a new Deluxe hardcover volume releases. I think the last standalone chapter I read was where Griffith was destroying elf island, and Guts couldn't physically touch him, so it's been a while at this point.

If what I was hearing was correct, Vol. 15 should be coming next year.
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>>222345897
Eh

It's not the original artistic vision

Arguably, it's worse than last Wheel of Time books written by the KFC nigga
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>>222340193
You had to be there
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>>222341790
Usagi drop.
Anime is a very wholesome story about a guy who adopts an orphaned little girl then finds a wife and they live happily. The manga is about a guy who adopts an orphaned little girl and then marries her when she's in high school
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>>222345924
The "original artistic vision" was that he was burned out and out of ideas. He spent literal years stalling for time with sea gods and Pirates of the Caribbean rejects because he either didn't know or care about long term plans. Even his art was suffering toward the last couple of years.

I'm fine with seeing what someone else can do with it. It's not like this is an impossible kind of story for someone else to bring in for a landing, and it's a guy who Miura himself trusted, so whatever.
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>>222346138
berserk died with miura
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>>222345455
Damn, you're a retard.
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>>222345455
Americans are far more prone to drag shit out and milk something way beyond its expiration date.
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>>222345455
Huh, stuff happened after they got on the boat.
Huhhhhh, the fought a big tentacle monster that could extend its tentacles for kilometers and had a whole alien animal biome in its body. Also it died the same way that Miura died, its heart tore apart.

Also some cool characters were introduced but after Miura died they were all taken away except for Morda. Berserk ended with Griffith crying, that was the last chapter Miura personally inked, it's the last chapter that also made sense, the continuation chapters read like post-it notes, not a story.
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>>222346899
You're allowed to think that. I don't care about the meta, I just want to see the thing finished.
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>>222347121
it finished with guts in a good place on happy island after restoring his lady's memory
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>>222341744
>>222341909
Is this the new "prequel-tard" contrarian opinion?
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>>222346050
so worse?
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>>222345924
i quite liked what he did with the final novels. As much as i love Robert Jordans works, he tended to meander a LOT with irrelevant side characters, the replacement guy did well to keep the plot on-point, and he did a great final battle.

I always viewed critics of the final Wheel books as just elitist contrarian larpers.
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>>222347024
How would you end Berserk /tv/ ? Guts going to Falconia to rescue Casca (again) and Griffith sacrificing the city to become the leader of the God Hand? Guts murdering the God Hand triggering some kind of apocalypse? Donovan coming back from the soul vortex to destroy Griffith's bussy?
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>>222349419
Dance party
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>>222340193
Golden age is the good part, the rest is filler.
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>>222340355
I miss him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giyar1ymbaI
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The campfire scene is kino
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>>222340193
asians in general do not know how to write a conclusion to a story. but mangas are especially bad because its literally their income, ending your manga is like choosing to be fired
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>>222340193
If you already finished The lost children arc and are not impressed you may as well quit because it never gets better than that. In fact it gets worse, much worse and then Miura dies leaving the whole thing unfinished and you think to yourself that at least it´s over. But you were wrong.
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>>222349419
Miura clearly intended Casca to be the only one capable of killing Griffith. Anything else would be fanfiction.
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>>222340193
>Am I being punked?
Yes.
It's a generic battle shounen.
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>>222340367
So he can see where the show just stops halfway through the story, abruptly.
Like it literally just stops, it doesn't end, it doesn't finish, IT JUST STOPS.
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>>222340193
Anime people have incredibly low standards.
Berserk is praised because it's got some titts and violence in it.
And that shit is like crack to a 13 year old boy.
But it's pathetic if you're an adult.
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>>222350300
Griffith had no attachment to Casca
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>>222341305
Seems like you miss 20% of the art when it's in book form
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>>222350624
Griffith fucked Casca for 2 reasons, obviously to cuck Guts but also because the members of godhand are spiritual beings. In order to interact with the mortal plane Griffith needed a mortal vessel; that´s Casca´s child. Guts can´t touch Griffith, however Casca as the mother of the vessel share it´s blood. She can hurt him, moreover the vessel instinctively protects her. If she gets close enough she can kill Griffith and he won´t be able to resist. Griffith off course is aware of this, which is why he cursed her. The issue is getting close enough since other members of godhand and other demons can kill Casca no problem. That´s were Guts come in, he has to kill everything in between himself and hope Casca actually wants to kill Griffith.
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>>222341790
Yu Yu Hakusho
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>>222340193
Gunnm and Ravages of Time are the only oriental comics worth the praise, while The Maxx and Watchmen are the only occidental ones respectively.
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I'm so tired of blatant millenials posting here and then having the audacity to fight back when their precious garbage they exalted for so long is ripped apart in front of them. I'm so glad a new generation has taken power and doesn't brainlessly love old shit because "old good, new bad" so now these morons are totally powerless and just get clowned on when they say some shit from the 90's is great.
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This manga is about gay rape.
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>>222341305
>>222341046
idgi
Am I supposed to imagine myself being there or just seeing it?
Is this from Gut's pov?
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>>222351584
>millennials
Most tranime fans online in 2026 are third worlder zoomers.
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Mexicans and Brazilians really love Berserk because they can relate to the MC getting BUNGA BUNGA'D as children.
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>>222351767
>Most tranime fans online in 2026 are third worlder zoomers
There were always like that anonito, you just figured it out
>animesuki and myspace
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>>222351854
Turdies didn't get cell phones with data plans until 2016-2018
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>>222340193

you will never get to the good part
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If Berserk ever gets a western adaptation, Guts will be black 100%.
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>>222342489
Peter porker got his webussy busted.
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>>222340193
Go back to /a/
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>>222353187
He would also be a swordsman 100%
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CJkmR3Tf7Q
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>>222353187
ayooo we wuz swinging swords n shieeeeeet
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>>222340193
>Beruseruku
Stupid Japs
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would you
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im not a weeb and never consume any of this slop, but i recently finished the manga in one go. i know the guy died and got anxious towards the end that nothing was gonna get wrapped up. my mind was blown after realizing they spent like 10 real life years on that boring ass boat. i couldnt imagine following something like this in real time.
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>>222340193
The animation is unfinished and stops at the worst point/just shit starting to get good read te manga
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>>222353187
nah guts is gonna be some twink japanese faggot with that awful jrpg haircut they all have
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>>222340193
put yer grasses on faggit
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>>222356075
>Guriffitsu biggest dream
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The anime is better than the manga. The manga has much more rape which is good, but the anime removes the fairy and the skull knight. Honestly it's way better to imagine Guts just being completely alone against hell rather than with a team of fairies and skelly knights and other little people.
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>>222356812
but i'm not trans so i'm not watching some fucking anime
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>>222340193
It's the artwork, atmosphere, and unconventional plot. However, the author dropped the ball completely after the Golden Age arc. Like what happened to many manga authors, he got pressured into making Berserk have more mass appeal. Story turns into generic high fantasy shounen JRPG adventure where Guts and co meanders aimlessly through the land, fighting monster of the week. Guts gets his super weapon and super armor, becoming practically invincible.
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>>222356427
>normal attractive man with normal medium length hair
>twink faggot with awful jrpg haircut
are you a bald farmer from a shithole third world country or what
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>>222357519
>normal attractive man
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>>222340193
Wrong board you filtered retard
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>>222340193
There’s actually never been anything good made ever OP. We are all just larping to fit in and fuck with you.
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>>222357519

Don't make fun of bald farmers from shithole third world countries. It's not cool. They may be ugly, primitive, stupid, and act like jungle monkeys, but they make really good food.
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>>222356851
As a Betk fan who still follows the hollowed out post-Miura manga. This. Anything past the Golden Age isn't worth it. Consume everything until the eclipse then abandon it.
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>>222342295
>that gets posted here daily lol
thats the thing, this is manchild central, and anime/manga are no better.
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HAI YAI FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORCES!
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>>222340950
Death or insanity are the only endpoints for manga artists. Look at what happened to Masamune Shirow.
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>>222342218
Bruce Banner was raped in the sweltering hot summer of 1988.
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>>222356851
>Story turns into generic high fantasy shounen JRPG adventure where Guts and co meanders aimlessly through the land, fighting monster of the week.

Yeah, this was where I stopped reading the series. Not only was it boring, but it made Farnese a redundant character, as her fucked-up story didn't fit with the new JRPG direction. She magically became a nice person and her sadistic past was never mentioned again.
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>>222340193
You're getting Pucked
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>>222349355
I agree, I don't like what little of Sanderson's original works I've read, but he did actually do justice to Wheel of Time.
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>>222340193
there is a reason why the manga is considered the best manga ever printed anon, the 90's anime is ok but they changed so many things the author refused to allow a second season and it ended where it ended, and the second anime from 2016 is just putrid 3d 24fps garbage
just stick to the manga
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>>222353187
nah, Donovan wouldn't want to rape an ugly lil niglet
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didnt they just reveal that guts and griff are somehow connected, two sides of the same coin type shit? i havent read much since miura died



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