>no, I think I’ll stayWas it really that hard?
>>222341511no it makes him look like a cuck
>>222341511pathetic attempt, you should feel bad
>>222341511>Of course you'll stay. You have reached your daily 50 step limit.
>>222341511There's nothing that could have saved him in that situation. Just learn from it, work on yourself and stop thinking about it so much. You don't have to be him.
>Stuck in the doorway again?
>>222341765We’ve actually come up with a tonne of comebacks he could have used that have no retort.
>>222341985name 25 from a "tonne"
>>22234198599% of the retorts in these threads are cringe as fuck to say out loud
>>222341765>work on yourselfThreads about him now prove that does nothing lol
>>222341765The only thing that works is something along the lines of "I doubt Leo would be interested in you so you're stuck with me" but of course Jonah's spirit was crushed beyond repair in that moment
>>222342127"Hehe. That's quite funny for a weather girl"
>>222341985It's not about comebacks and retorts and logical stuff like that, it's pure evolutionary biology. He is a fat, ugly, non-masculine and beta guy who is not particularly respected by his peers, she's a somewhat attractive, bubbly, confident, youngish woman (biologically making her the ultimate decider of a man's genetic fitness in a tribal/pre-modern context), and all the money and status in the world, which he has in spades compared to her, couldn't prevent her from instantly reducing him to his biological status and lack of genetic fitness with a slightly snarky remark, making him look like a pathetic, low-status man, a figure of ridicule, in the eyes of everybody (i.e., the tribe) watching. There's nothing he could have done or said to erase the shame of that moment, other than not being who he is in the first place, it's just biology. And guys here are obsessed with it because it gives them flashbacks of the bullying and rejection scenarios they've experienced, they see themselves in Jonah, and they vicariously "win them" by projecting them into Jonah's situation and trying to come up with ways to win his case, not realizing it's not about logic or wit.
>>222342152He should have just thrown caution to the wind and pouted, petulantly swatting his glass of water aside before storming off the stage staring daggers at the audience, his Milla Jovovich arc. Think of how different the world would have been had this been his course of action. Oh, nothing would change? Yeah, well... We'll just see about that...
>>222342127The only thing stuck with you Jonah are those gigantic man tits
>>222342212MORE TIME
>>222342211We wouldn't have these threads if he didn't throw a fit and Ornella Fleury would still be a completely unknown
>>222342178>in a tribal/pre-modern contextShe wouldn't be deciding shit in that context lmao, retarded post
>>222342238Qrd on how he reacted? Don't feel like watching
>>222342211Honestly, after reading all these pathetic attempts at comebacks over the years, which are ultimately just self-deprecation and self-abasement hidden under guise of "wittiness", a simple "fuck you bitch" and swatting his glass of water aside before walking out is probably the closest I have seen to an actual convincing/dignified comeback.
>>222342212Fuck you.
>>222342265He didn't show up for the next day and just quit his tour earlier
>>222342127>Leo doesn't go for women over 40
>>222342338That sounds like a reasonable reaction to me. What's wrong with it?
>>222342127That's still basically shitting on himself
>>222342384He's fat and ugly
>>222342178>not realizing it's not about logic or wit.I get what you're saying, but there is a theoretical 'perfect response' he could have made, though I don't know what it is. He is 'the fat kid from Superbad' so the only public persona he ever had a chance with was to lean into the self-deprecating goofball thing, justifying his existence and celebrity through displays of wit. The problem is his timidity and sense of inadequacy, partly brought on by his knowledge of being typecast and sidelined despite his desire to be respected as a serious actor, is what made it impossible for him to embody that role, even if it's the only option. It's a vicious cycle with no way out and I would feel sorry for him if it didn't have a sense of poetic justice to it. The various attempts at rebranding through personality/aesthetic changes have been interesting to watch. A tortured spirit is Jonah.
>>222342407He would have been if he had shown up too though
>>222341758fucking REKT, Jonah stays losing
>>222342428Then there was an appearance on French television in 2016 to promote his film War Dogs, during which it seemed like the hosts had decided before the show that Hill would be fair game to take the piss out of relentlessly, something which he evidently wasn’t alright with. One of the female presenters, Ornella Fleury, kicked things off by telling him that her favourite scene from his career was: “When I saw you get sodomised by a three-meter-tall demon in (Hill’s apocalyptic comedy)This Is the End I told myself, ‘Now that’s the man of my dreams!’”Hill, having her comments translated live into English, looked very unimpressed by this barb and shot back, “And you? I hear you get sodomised pretty often,” which is quite a full-on comeback, let’s be honest, if not a particularly inventive one.But then Fleury strangely decided to take things further and told him about a sexual fantasy she had in which Hill took her to a hotel room, made her laugh a lot, and then introduced his friends Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio and then left them to it.As the awkward studio laughter went up a notch, Hill, by now looking like he not only regretted being on the show but also like he would rather be literally anywhere else, attempted his second comeback, which fell completely flat due it having to be translated, and told her: “I’m glad I came to this show to get ridiculed by a local weather girl – it’s nice”.Although there were reports that Hill then cancelled all his further press commitments in France following the broadcast, that wasn’t the case, and he did go on to appear at a film festival in the country.
>>222342063Your bloodline peaked at 'the woman who mocked Jonah Hill.' Mine survived the Nazis, escaped the Holocaust, rebuilt from scratch, and outlasted people who tried to erase us. We are not the same
>>222342211>Milla JovovichQRD?>>222342428>>222342407but her humiliation of him drove him to a path of self-improvement where he lost the weight and got fit
>>222342496He got fit then fat again then weird then a surfer, a hobo and now he's a BJJ wrestler
>>222341511you retards aren't even trying anymore lol
>>222342416In evolutionary terms, female choice has always been the main gatekeeper of male genetic fitness. When a woman in a public setting dismisses a man's desirability with casual contempt, like Ornelia did with Jonah, she isn't just making a joke, she is sending a signal to the rest of the "tribe" that the man is not genetically fit. Money and power can give you some access to compliance, obedience, and basic respect, but they cannot buy genuine, instinctive desire, they are modern, artificial concepts that don't mean anything outside of civilization. You can't debate your way into being perceived as high-fitness in a moment of public humiliation. People trying to come up with the perfect comeback for Jonah are trying to use logic and words to solve a question of instinctive, non-verbal perception. But logic can't override evolutionary signaling. He is a low-status man and she is a decently attractive woman of reproductive age calling him ugly and unfit to reproduce in front of a laughing crowd, no comeback can change that.The takeway: work out, eat well, improve your social skills, take care of your appearance, cultivate your social circle, and never, ever be him. That's the "perfect response".
>>222342496Jovovich appeared on some French show and the host asked her a question about her father who had recently passed away. Apparently she or her agent had spoken to the producers beforehand and instructed them not to discuss that, so she got pissed and stormed off the set. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0dihROX4D8Pretty sure it's a different talk show but I always think of this and the Jonah Hill / Ornella onslaught as being related for some raisin.
>>222341758MOAR TIME!!
>>222342587She was pissed because the host mentioned that his father went to prison, despite them agreeing that they wouldn't talk about it
>>222342655kek, what a thin skinned cunt
>>222342416He’s not a serious actor. Brad Pitt settled that 15 years ago.
>>222342403he should be shitting on himself, look at him
>>222342655>father went to prisonAh my bad, that's almost worse in a way, there's a public humiliation aspect to it. Those goddamn French 'people'...
Honestly think this one was worse
There was an era on /tv/ where "go to website" would be said and everyone would respond as if he owned Ornella. I never understood what "go to website" meant and its been years
>>222341511>"Haha, yeah you got me Ornella!">finish the "interview" and plug your multimillion dollar movie>before leaving use your industry pull and connections to quietly have Ornella fired and blacklisted>get married and have children while she remains alone and barren forever>win>ruin it all later on by publicly claiming that you could beat up anyone and that they should "try it"
>>222342747Bro he'd annihilate you bro
>>222342714It was just a screenshot of a popup or something that said "ok go to website" below Jonah's face, nothing more than that
>>222342778>>222342714Found the thread:https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/137126814/#137127075
>>222342703I think this and the Ornella debacle stem from the fact that people just assume that if you're starring in comedies that you're funny or charming. Jonah is an actor. He's good at playing an established character and taking direction. He himself is not funny nor is he good at speaking publicly. Kimmel and the French hole lobbed some banter at him expecting him to be able to riff along and he was there expecting to be treated like an actor who was booked to talk about his next film. Without a script to read and a director giving him guidance he's just a narcissistic twat like most of us.
>>222342703Yeah Ornella has a ditzy bimbo vibe, you could almost rationalize it as her not having bad intentions and she just didn't realize what she way saying, Kimmel is dead serious and makes you feel like the popular kid in school is bullying you.
>>222342816We did it reddit! Bullied a man for self improving!
>>222341511OP, we’ve been doing this for over a decade. Every possible permutation has been attempted. There isn’t a single instance in the entire multiverse where Jonah Hill survives that. He’s still crushed to this day
>>222342951Pretending to be seething Jonah anonymously is the best recent meme
>>222342902Jonah literally said to her “I hear you get fucked in the ass often”Then she absolutely cooked him and he cried like a faggot.
>>222341511QRD?
>>222341985>Oh Jonah, the only tonne you have is your big belly
>>222342981>Pretending
I know it got solved long ago and basically the whole thread agreed. Unfortunately I forgot what was posted.
>>222342816>massive wall of obvious samefag replies for the epic reddit screencapI'm glad people on 4chan grew up and stopped doing that shit
>>222341765he could've punched her as hard as he could. at least he wouldn't look like a cuck then.
>>222343006https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM12f0GBOx8
>>222344307Realistically it would’ve been best for him to shit himself and wing the turd right into her eyes
>>222341511It's another thing our ancestors long figured out but the retarded modernist movements destroyed along with all basic truths people enjoyed for thousands of years.Sometimes you get insulted so bad you can't come out on top. In this case you duel the man who insulted you, or if it was a woman you either beat her or duel her owner. It's that simple.
>>222344365If Jonah challenged Ornella to a duel she would’ve blasted his nuts off with a flintlock, his humiliation would’ve been fatal and final
>>222344316I think this is a problem that comedy actors often face, that is that interviewers expect them to have a witty comeback for every occasion. Look at Dick Cavett saying "nigger" right in front of Eddie Murphy completely out of the bluehttps://youtu.be/v4U_x3kblzw?t=189
Jonah Hill>ridiculed by >Brad Pitt >Jimmy Kimmel >Jay Baruchel >Ornella Fleury>humiliated by doing a romance movie with a CGI kiss>gf shows text messages saying you're clingy and sexist>tries to get thin and fails miserably>tries to become a surfer, a jiu-jitsu wrestler and people make fun of himI think he just needs to kys
>>222342816I can't believe "go to website" had such a retarded origin
>>222341511>haha aren’t you a little old for those kind of jokes?Remains undefeated>>222342178>YoungishFemale detected
>>222344556>>tries to become a surfer, a jiu-jitsu wrestlerYou forgot his skateboarder phasehttps://youtu.be/fLx7dq5cbg4
>>222344556>>humiliated by doing a romance movie with a CGI kissKEK I forgot about that
>>222342951How has Jonah self improved? He’s a bad middle manager of his own life, failing to address core issues and then getting lost it the pointless shit that he can control but won’t address the root cause of his embarrassment
I think he's a little try hard because he's an older millennial, but I don't get the hate honestly. He's a pretty good comedic actor.
>>222344964Making fun of a tryhard isn’t hating a tryhard Jonah.
>>222341511He should have just slammed the desk and broke down crying.
>>222341511>Yeah, no. I gotta go with a serious weather girl.
>>222342416>you’re too old for themThat’s the perfect response, as long as he laughs at her joke and says it with a smile. But Jonah isn’t that good of an actor
>>222341758she's unbeatable bro, even BJJ can't stop her
>>222345050>YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKIN DESERVEit would’ve been kino
>>222344556why does he hate being the jolly fat guy so much? it ain't so bad
>>222345583At some point he became obsessed with the idea of being a serious actor and being taken seriously despite his beginnings as a comedic relief. I can imagine he probably wasn't taken seriously by other actors and was socially awkward at Hollywood parties etc. and it got to him, then the long list of public humiliations, he tries to pivot but keeps spilling his spaghetti.
>>222341511Wasnt he LICHERALLY married with kids during this? How fuckin insecure do you have to be
>>222342517And throughout all of it the underlying resentment and insecurity just comes off him in wavesDon’t matter how much weight he loses or how many hobbies he gets he’ll always be the fat kid mentally
>>222342458The cockroaches in my house also survived several attempts to exterminate them, moved to my neighbour, infested his house and rebuilt their disgusting colony
>>222345583>>222345700yeah it was around the time moneyball was doing well and then he worked with scorsese on wolf of wall street which probably went to his head. There was a really good balance of comedy/seriousness like his role in War Dogs which he could have kept going and kept landing his serious roles too
>>222345583I mean it depends. Chris Pratt was fine with being a fat guy on Parks & Recreation because he kept being rejected. But no one wants to keep doing fat roles, it's demeaning.
>>222342747It'd be based if he'd just Weinstein'd her into """consensual""" revenge sex.
>>222342694All black fathers went to jailIs he some kind of racist?
>of course I would have left>fornication is a mortal sin
>>222345173Wait, wouldn't this ricochet as slander against his buddy Leo?
