>in the future there is no want or need>well except when i want to fuck someone>well except when we want to explore shit>well except when there is a technology that we need to study>well except wanting to command and be a captain of a starshipthis doesnt make much philosophical sense, how are those not wants or sneeds?
>in the present you have a right to live and to live freely>well except if you kill someone>well except if you're a pedophile>well except if you're a paraplegic>well except if you're poorThis is what you sound like
This is how DS9 tards actually think.
>>222349256>Grandstanding on technicalitiesMidwits have ruined this planet and humanity.
>>222349256Your needs as far as shelter, food, clothing, etc are met. Wants are subject to the individual though most can be achieved. It's not a difficult concept.
>>222349422but how is the primal urge to fuck and lead any different from wanting to have wealth for example
>>222349414I havent made it to DS9 yet I only completed the Original Series, no issues there. Captain Kirk regularly states he wants to live, doesnt put any limits on what he wants and this doesnt conflict much for the rest of the show.
>>222349414>b-but a utopian future can't be that way 'cause that's not how we act right now!They should just watch star wars instead, since they just want space lasers and ship battles. Just switch from loving Dukat to Darth Vader. There. Fanbase IQ goes back over 110.
>>222349331>>222349422This.It's an argument that only ""makes sense"" to people who are being purposefully obtuse and retarded. If they pretend something is nonsense because of their absurd semantic bitching, they're basically just trying to gaslight you, IE, "The reason I can't understand basic logic is because YOU can't speak basic logic." It's a pretty common strategy with annoying political zealots.It's best not to play their games. Just call them retarded and move on.
>>222349509Semantic pedantry.
>>222349256There is no material want for federation humans. There is the need to better themselves and explore, which is what starfleet is for in the TNG era.
>>222349588is a starship a material?
This thread is why you ignore posts that don't start with a capital letter and end with punctuation.
>>222349743in the future there is no need for capitalization
>>222349331All good points.