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>you should feel sorry for the family that scammed, framed and killed other people. And that's because they are poor or something
I still don't get the main point of Parasite
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Obviously.
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rich people are real parasites
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>>222351145
he was mad that day
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>>222351145
They didnt treat him as a friend even though they barely knew him and paid him to do a menial task
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>>222351145
me too, people acted like its some criticism of capitalism but i just dont see how, the poor people were dishonest scumbags and caused many of their problems for themselves
and the rich people were naive and kind
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>>222351389
Having grown up with both rich and poor relatives (me being a poorfag btw) it is quite literally the opposite. Poor people will try to take advantage of any opportunity to leech off others, especially their own family members.
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>>222351145
>>222351145
Is this why every Korean moves to America? Imagine living in a place where everyone is so competitive it seems like a crushing rat race for a normal life
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>i want your house
>i kill you and take the house
how kosher
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>>222351145
Everything was kino except the story. And how the fuck does that architect house owner not know about a secret hideout in his house with plumbing and electricity? The fuse box is right over the guys bed so they’ve never even once had a change a fuse in all those floods and notice there’s a bed and small library hidden right there? Gay as fuck.
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>>222351145
it is right to rebel
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I enjoyed this movie a lot because of it's unique premise (to me, don't know if it's been done better before) and the genuinely shocking twist I had no idea to expect anything like. But when reading about the movie afterwards, I was really thrown for a loop to learn it was supposed to be painting the rich in a negative light and the poor in a sympathetic one. I think this intention could have came across much better if the 'parasites' were all sympathetic people, but they're not. Well it's been a long while so I don't remember if they all were. But I remember one of the first things that happens in the movie is the son/brother character being entrusted by his best friend to look after his girlfriend while he's going away, and then immediately taking his chances with her while the opportunity is there. There's nothing good or likeable in this disgusting person at all. An effective part was when there's a flood in the poor area and you see how devastating it is for the poor people, and the next day, the rich people mention in passing 'oh there was a flood, it's sad isn't it'. It shows that rich people can be completely detached from the problems poor people face. But it still doesn't at all paint them in a negative light, it shows ignorance and difference at most. It's not as if they laughed about it. I do think it's a good enjoyable movie, I just don't the message it apparently carries is conveyed well. Though again, it was years ago I watched this now, might be forgetting some key counterpoints.
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>>222351145
It must suck being you.
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>>222351145
The movie taught me that you shouldn't let poor people into your life.
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>>222353199
The architect father would never have changed a fuse in his life.
He'd have a guy that comes over and does that while he's at work.
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>>222355214
And he wouldn’t be like “here’s your bill, by the way there’s some dude living under your fusebox”?
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>>222351145
Communist/Marxist logic: morality of a person is determined by their class rather than their actions.
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>umm, dude, you smell bad. can you use cologne or deodorant or take a shower or something?
>no, but I will kill you and take your house >:^)
RIVETING COMMENTARY ON CLASSISM
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The dude wrote another movie where the plot is literally and unironically
>rich people exist
>therefore, we should just kill everyone on earth, total human extinction
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>>222358283
>>rich people exist
>>therefore, we should just kill everyone on earth
I mean
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>>222358283
>rich people exist
>therefore, we should just kill everyone on earth, total human extinction
Chinese history basically
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>>222351145
That’s not the point at all. The poor family are the bad guys, they just happen to be the focus of the movie ie the “main characters.” Are you really too autistic to grasp this concept or are you just b8ing for engagement. I hope for your sake the latter
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>>222356362
Hence they would like to not have that class. What do you not get?
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>>222353116
All the better off people I know are stingy assholes. I was out with my friends once, and bought one of them a $3 coffee because he didn’t have his card. He offered to Venmo me, but I’m not a fucking Scrooge and it was $3. Our one upper class friend got all pissy and demanded I accept the Venmo “on principle”, but I think it was really because he always Venmo requests for little stuff like that and I made him look cheap. Thx for reading my blog.
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>>222351337
>>222353341
>>222355129
Butthurt commie faggots
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>>222359212
everyone was saying its a criticism of capitalism when it came out like the rich people were somehow to blame
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>>222359701
Just like people are saying Bear is a villain who “rapes” Nikki in Obsession? Yeah a lot of people who are hyper vocal and chronically online are literally retarded dude, it’s fine.
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>>222359701
>>222359212
>>222359765
The author is an outspoken communist irl.
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>>222359338
Friends arent family
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>>222351145
The message is that competitiveness is too extreme. The poor family saw a kind rich family as weak prey, that mindset only arises when you see every other household as an enemy, so the message is don't.
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>>222359997
A South.korean communist. Kek. He yearns for the slave labor camps. He just has to move North. He could make some films about Dear Leader
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Capitalism bad even doe its what let us make this movie
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how come no one ever points out that the rich mom is a bimbo and evil drug user?
only the rich dad in the family even has a job, even supposing it is a useful job. the rest are even bigger leeches than the poorfags
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>>222353116
This
>>222359338
Nobody rich is actually like that. Reddit is trying hard to push this stupid meme.
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>>222360451
>it's impossible to transition into that last category without building your wealth on the misery and exploitation of others, either at the hands of your ancestors, yourself, or the system you benefit from.
Communism doesn’t work. I’m sorry. Centralized power inevitably ends up in the hands of one willing to abuse it.
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>>222358283
I mean, if I lived in a country with a severe overwork culture but a lower GDP than Spain, I’d be a leftist too.
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Noone ever points out the guy who has been turning on the lights when they come in for years.

The rich family never questions or wonders why the lights turn on for them because everything always just works for them without having to to do anything.

The reality is a man who lives off their scraps does the menial labor for it to happen and it is below the wealthy family's notice.
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>>222359338
Yeah, it's weird.
Not to toot my own horn, but I consider generosity to be classy. Every time I go out with my friends, it's a competition to see who can pay for it. It's basically an honor.
The second you're hanging out with a trust fund faggot though? They don't care if they have 10x your net worth, they're counting every fucking nickel.
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>>222351145
How did he not ejaculate in his pants from that woman propping her soles up?
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>>222351145
>I still don't get the main point of Parasite
Social elevator is bullshit and economic inequality brews tension that WILL explode on rich people's face
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>>222351145
>do what you can get away with
This is we only real driving force of modern human psychology, at large
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>>222351145
...Sorry what we're we talking about? I was staring at that asian lady's feet.
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>>222351145
I only treated it as an absurdist comedy movie, even in the first half, and more so by the end with the increasingly goofy elements like the secret bunker. How can you read "social commentary" on this? Even more a something anti-rich? The poor family were all around assholes, liars and criminals abusing the generosity of the rich guys. If you read anything into it it's to never trust poor people and minimise contact with them.
>>222360511
Kids are "leeches" to their parents and a wife a "leech" to her husband. As long as the father has the patriarrchy or whatever in his home I don't see the issue. They don't cost anything to society.
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>>222358283
No he didn't
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Am i the only person that just watched Parasite for what it was? A really tightly scripted thriller with some black comedy moments sprinkled in for good measure?
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>>222353116
Also
>le poors are more willing to share what little they have with others than the rich
>poor people will open up a new line of credit in a family member's name so they can treat their friends to food and alcohol, so they won't look as poor as the other poors around them

>>222360534
>Nobody rich is actually like that.
Black "rich" are and even bigger assholes about things. They'll play the black card to get free shit. You'll see stories once in awhile of people trying to do something nice for the black community and things don't work out as intended. IE black dude bought pizzas to feed the homeless, blacks in escalades cleaned him out. Black lady made a community food pantry for the needy, blacks in escalades cleaned her out.
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>>222351145
The main point of Parasite is lack of upwards mobility. That it's pretty much impossible to break out of your social caste/class.
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>>222363761
i dont see how it made that point whatsoever, the poors never made a single effort to improve their situation honestly, the entire movie is them putting minimum effort into a series of different scams
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>>222351145
Most misunderstood movie of all time, you were never supposed to side with the family of scammers that were doing their best to be PARASITES to a rich one
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>>222351389
Former poorfag here - exactly the opposite, Reddit.
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>>222351145
Skill issue
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>>222363696
Yep was a fun watch. I liked those edgy Korean thrillers from the early-mid 2000s and this one was great as well
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>>222351389
I'm a multimillionaire so you are my bitch and I am sucking your life force. Rents due btw.
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>>222359271
Life must be so easy when you're 15 and sub 80IQ.
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>>222353116
rich people are typically forgiving and kind, doubly so if they are self made. you cant stay a rich asshole unless you are a nepo baby
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>>222361898
To make sure the GDP will never get better?
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>>222353116
>Poor people will try to take advantage of any opportunity to leech off others
its just your awful poorfag family who lacks integrity, honour, and honesty
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The main characters weren't the good guys. Do you just assume that because a movie is about someone it means they’re the good guy?
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Lol, rightoids are retards with broken brains. They don't understand art even if it's the most obvious shit.
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>>222359420
>Butthurt commie faggots
Why is communism bad exactly?
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>>222365385
death, genocide, starvation
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>>222358283
they literally have nothing to offer us other than cheap televisions and cell phones
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>>222365458
Norway and Sweden seem fine.
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>>222360154
I dated a vietnamese girl who was a far lefty despite her dad fighting in the war and being rescued and getting to raise his family in california. asians are really struggling.
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>>222359338
You sound like a back stabbing little faggot and wow you're a saint and a martyr for giving someone $3.
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>>222365524
>He thinks Norway and Sweden are communist
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>>222365524
Norway and Sweden are free market capitalist ethnostates. Not even close to socialism or communism. You're advocating for a 99% White Capitalist country, I agree. In Sweden and Norway the social safety net goes to citizens, in the USA it goes to fraud and aliens and foreign countries. What happened when Sweden and Norway let in a bunch of lunchtime rowdies?
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>>222365558
Social democracies are basically communism but without the bad parts. Its the perfect form of government system.
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>>222365578
Both are Constitutional Monarchies with free market capitalist economies. You love White people and capitalism and the constitution.
Welcome to the straight team, son.
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>>222365611
Then why call yourself a social democracy in the first place?
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>>222365627
In the USA we already have a social safety net and a capitalist free market like Sweden and Norway. We have a social democracy. You can stop complaining now. Unless you don't like that the social safety net is abused and trillions of dollars go to fraud and aliens. But you like that part.
Plus you're probably not even American or anyone who matters.
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>>222365627
Social democracy is exactly what I described: capitalist free market economy with a social safety net. We have that in the USA. Your problem is with foreigners.
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>YOU SAY I SMELL BAD? I KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!
media literacy bros... i don't feel so good...
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what i noticed about republican retards is that they dont mind bootlicking rich peeps.
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>>222365385
Because it naively ignores the innate agency and self-interest of individuals. It makes the ridiculous assumption that the right system can wipe out hundreds of thousands of years of evolution that shaped the average human to be primarily concerned with themselves and avoid unnecessary effort, with empathy being inherently limited, not absolute. You have to completly delusional to think people would be motivated to perform highly skilled work that involves high risk and enormous time investment without the incentive of greater reward because they are just gonna be nice like that. The average neurosurgeon would absolutely not accept working for the reward the average construction guy does because their "needs" are "the same". The arbitrary and subjective nature of "need" is yet another problem.

To be fair, Marx can't be entirely blame for this, as he didn't have the benefit of evolution being an established scientific theory at the time of writing Das Capital. He did have a point that class, as an environmental factor, does have a major role in shaping people. His mistake was assuming that environment is the only factor, just like fascists made the mistake of assuming race is the only factor. Two simplistic extremes unwilling to accept both nature and nurture are factors. We know much better now.
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>>222365700
no it hasn't
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>>222365737
Why don't you become rich then? Hard when you're not American.
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>>222365737
So what part are you complaining about then? The social safety net is for infinity immigrants like you said. You should work harder to support them.
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>>222365742
So you're implying that if Marx was alive today, he would disavow communism? That he would despite any leftist in America?
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>always talking about how awful rich people are
>never talking about how much they want to help poors less fortunate than themselves
I think they just want to steal shit
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>>222365700
So you want infinity illegals and you want everything to be free. I don't know why this hasn't worked out yet.
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>>222360451
>it's impossible to transition into that last category without building your wealth on the misery and exploitation of others, either at the hands of your ancestors, yourself, or the system you benefit from.

We have had plenty of random goobers making one man indie games like Balatro. This game then sells millions of copies for 15$ each and makes the creator wealthy enough to never need to work another day on their life.

Who got exploited for this to happen?
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>>222365772
>>222365788
idgaf about becoming rich nor do i envy them. i busted my ass in school and now have a comfy job w. the city. theres no chance in hell youre going to see me brownnosing or kissing a fucking rich guy fucking ass either, fuck that.
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>>222365742
Communism can work once genetic science advances further. We'll eliminate the excessive self-insert found in humans so that they'll be willing to work together for their common needs in a communist society.
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>>222365870
lmao state employed
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>>222365865
>I don't know why this hasn't worked out yet.
Because rich people and the state aren't spending enough money on what matters and instead on useless wars which kill millions all just to increase their own pockets. You absolutely can make communism work. First, we need to redistribute wealth properly. Eat the rich.
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>>222365882
you wish you had my life working for the city, ranjeesh. i do. jack. shit.
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>>222359338
Why are you being friends with an asshole? Do you think poor people are more generous?
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>>222365906
>i do. jack. shit.
I already said that.
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>>222365928
He's mad at his friend for interrupting his plan to guilt trip the guy for buying him something that cost $3 and leveraging that into a much bigger favor.
Talking shit about what an awful person your "rich asshole friend" is because he simply said you should accept the money and not attempt to manipulate the person later is a huge red flag.
This guys a real jerk.
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>>222365870
Very ghetto
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>>222365970
he busted his ass in school to become a DMV clerk
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>>222365742
>implying under communism neuro surgeon would have same status and abilities as construction worker.

You're one gay and dumb motherfucker.
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>>222365970
ghetto but with an ee degree, faggot
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>>222366008
You're right. A neurosurgeon would get paid less than a construction worker under communism.
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>>222366008
well there wouldn't be any hospitals or electricity so we don't need neuro surgeons that's rich guy stuff anyway so it's bad
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>>222366048
>Electrical Engineering Degree
>i aont eve be richno brownnoosing rich man fuk
If you can't become a millionaire with that degree you are a complete failure.
You are rich and privileged.
Give your money to less fortunate foreigners, rich man.
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>>222366055
Since when did commies ever say there wouldn't be any hospitals or doctors?
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>complain usa has no social safety net
>wants to be like sweden and norway
>those are liek the usa they jsut dont have as many foreign parasites costing tax payers $5 trillion a year
>usa is immigrants! that money belongs to them!
okay? What's the problem then?
>I want to be like sweden and norway
okay then you need to lose the immigration
>usa is immigrants!
okay then they get your social safety net
>nooooooo!!!!!!!!!! I wanna be like sweden!
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>>222365524
We aren't communists you retard.
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>>222366108
Say anything.
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>>222366082
im not in it for the money, i just like it. i live a modest but comfortable life. and i already did my part and taught in the ghetto
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>>222365790
>So you're implying that if Marx was alive today, he would disavow communism?
Marx spent a lot more effort diagnosing capitalism than designing communism. He didn't bother much with actually coming up with solutions to the problems he identified. He'd most likely handwave the failed implementations as natural class struggle. I think he could have begrudgingly admit that capitalism isn't solely responsible for selfish tendencies, though. It's hard to say. He was never known to be the most agreeable guy.
>That he would despite any leftist in America?
Marx didn't care for the already existing left/right dichotomy in his time, i doubt he would care now. He'd probably be somewhat concerned about a lot of the proletariat aligning with the bourgeoisie under the banner of "right", but really the same can be said about the "left".

>>222365874
Possibly, but someone would need to have a vested interest in implementing that first.

>>222366008
If you're introducing material and social prestige as incentives, you're back to hierarchy and a class society. There's a slew of other problems, such as how exactly do you compare the value of different work without the market? Who decides? Politicans? You just introduced social prestige differences, what prevents political favoritism?
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>>222351145
I genuinely believe this to be the most overrated movie of all time
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>>222365790
If he was alive today he'd get arrested for abusing his wife and children and probably overdose on fent or kill someone at chaz
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>>222366008
>human and social capital are not capital
Most well read commie. Just like christcucks that never actually read the bibble.
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>>222366132
You can have the social safety net without getting rich of the immigrants.
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>>222366154
>begrudgingly admit

Since Marx had already modeled people with abstractions that ignore personal agency, it would be unlikely he would admit to being wrong. He would adapt to the modern politics of today just fine. Critical Theory is a natural extension of his philosophy.
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>>222366213
We have the social safety net. 50% of our taxes go to it. It's just that it's mostly going towards fraud & illegals.
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>>222366233
>He would adapt to the modern politics of today just fine.
We are not asking the most vital question. Does modern Marx have a modern Engels to borrow $5 from on a regular basis?
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>>222351145
Did her feet really smell THAT bad??
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>>222351389
>Wealth creators are the REAL leeches
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>>222365829
>I think they just want to steal shit
We have retards ITT arguign that Scandinavia (who rank in the top ten most lolberg coutnries in almost every metric) is communist because there is gibsmedat there (negligibly more than in other western countries). Only a minuscule proportion of leftists ever cared about "theory", about the grand scheme of production systems or sociological nonsense, 95%+ of them just identify with gibsmedat.
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>>222359701
Hmm, in which system do a “rich” and a “poor” exist? Think deeply now.
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>>222360133
No, the message is we shouldn’t have an economic system with such extreme class division that encourages poor people to do evil things out of desperation.
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>>222367778
Every system ever implemented in reality, what is there to think about?
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>>222351389
You can use their real title, this isn't plebbit.
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>>222351389
How? You're the one reliant on THEIR earnings being forcibly confiscated and given to you.
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>>222353341
Against what?
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>>222359338
>All the better off people I know are stingy assholes. I was out with my friends once, and bought one of them a $3 coffee because he didn’t have his card. He offered to Venmo me, but I’m not a fucking Scrooge and it was $3. Our one upper class friend got all pissy and demanded I accept the Venmo “on principle”, but I think it was really because he always Venmo requests for little stuff like that and I made him look cheap. Thx for reading my blog.
I mean that's entirely true, rich people are stingy, parasitical, assholes who take every advantage to steal from people, legally. It's still theft but the assauge their guilt by saying you asked for it, or you allowed it because of weakness etc.. Endless excuses same as any criminal mind.
Woebetide you if you compare them to their poor criminal bretheren though, same as any kind of jew, "Oh no i've been found out.".
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rightoids would unironically love commie countries. they were socially conservative, nationalistic and most rightoids would feel right at home working in some factory.
No avant-garde art, no gays, focus on family.
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>>222365868
>We have had plenty of random goobers making one man indie games like Balatro. This game then sells millions of copies for 15$ each and makes the creator wealthy enough to never need to work another day on their life.
>
>Who got exploited for this to happen?
That would put the author in "well-off" it is the conflation of rich human garbage to those who earn their wealth that is entirely the problem. Pilpul to pretend there is no difference is just dishonesty.
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>>222367802
>low-income people are FORCED to murder and steal!
Lmao no they aren't. That's just you trying to justify criminality, violence and greed.
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>>222367778
Literally every system that has ever existed since time immemorium, even communist ones.
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>>222367963
Ah, ok, so the difference is whatever convenience is your argument at that given time? Got it.
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>>222367905
>le earnings
they didnt earn shit.
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>>222367991
It's funnt because in the past scholars actually believed that neolithic people were egalitarians and megalithic graves were some kind of communal cemeteries. Then after 2015 they sequenced DNA of some of the people buried there, turned out they were all related and the megalithic graves were basically royal mausolea.
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>>222351145
How ugly poverty and the poor are, that's my take from the movie.
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>>222368078
Fantasizing about prehistoric or primitive people, projecting values on them, was already a thing among pseuds even in antiquity.
Sometimes they were all communist, sometimes feminist/matriarchal, sometimes vegetarians, etc.
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>>222353116
Yes, third worlders are parasites, especially the poor ones. But poor people in civilised countries (not ncluding the foriegn ones, obviously) tend to be more culturally conhesive and friendly with one another. It is generally why the working class of the civilised world unite against third world invaders, such as (you)rself and relatives, whereas the middle-to-upper classes will happily accomdate you.
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every Korean film is just "capitalism bad!" or romcom slop
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>>222368271
Poverty surely isn't pretty.
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amazing that the same faggots defending the rich in this thread would then go onto to complain and blame all of societal woes on rich jews and corpos, embarrassing at least keep it consistent nigger.
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>>222368528
>blaming rich jews rather than ALL rich people isn't "consistent"
Im what way?
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>>222368528
There were many historical situations where Jews were poor (even more so than the surrounding goyim) and they were still a problem. Of course Jews being rich makes them more influential and so even worse but the problem isn't "rich people".
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>>222368528
>uhhhh you can't just choose to discriminate based on race or class because people have both race and class
smartest centrist
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>>222368352
>such as (you)rself
Project harder, I'm white euro (no not Balkan).
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>>222358283
Why did I think this movie was based on a book, how retarded am I?
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>>222366632
>receivers of money printing are the leeches
Yes!
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>>222368771
>>222368609
the wealthiest whites would sooner ally with and fund the greedy jews destroying the west than your poor dumb nigger ass
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>>222369342
And the poorest whites would sooner act against their own economical interest and align with the rich whites, as seen on the right. This invalidates class as much as your argument invalidates race. Smartest centrist learns people have different interests in different contexts, more news at 11.
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>>222363199
>The second you're hanging out with a trust fund faggot though? They don't care if they have 10x your net worth, they're counting every fucking nickel.
That attitude is why their families have trust funds and maintain generational wealth. That sort of stuff isn't an accident and when a person first acquires wealth for whatever reason, it's much more common for it to be entirely burned through by the first generation of children than to be established as any sort of long term stable wealth generation.

They have that attitude because it's what's necessary for people to maintain wealth generation after generation.
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>>222365538
Maybe her dad shouldn't have collaborated with foreign occupiers. He betrayed his people, and now his daughter is a racemixer
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>>222368809
White Western Euro, though?? East Europe is the white Africa.
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>>222368045
>>222368925
There's literally nothing stopping you putting money in the S&P right now, you bitter, seething loser.



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