Uh...how is this not entrapment?
As long as it's the pedophiles suggesting to meet in the chat it's not entrapment.
because they came to him with intentions
>>222352659Because they committed the crime before walking in the door. Sexual solicitation with a minor.They dont convince them to do any of it, and make a specific effort to ensure the 'decoy's on the chats dont encourage the behavior.Videotaping the dudes in the bait house is just how they make their money, it has nothing to do with the crime.
>>222352659>pretend to offer up your young daughter to a guy with money to spend>guy really shows up>oh noes he didn't want to fuk your daughter, let's go back to being FRENS
>>222352659It's entertainment. No one cares if they're actually convicted
>>222352770>SHE WAS ONLY 17 YEARS 364 DAYS 23 HOURS AND 59 SECONDS OLD>YOU>SICK>FUCKI want to physically castrate all vigilantes
>>222352770And none of those boys end up dating the girl.
>>222352770it's like everybody suddenly forgot how dumb teenagers are
classic
>>222352691They also admit it's them when he shows the chat logs. All you'd have to do is deny it. >"is this you?">"Nope"He is not a cop, or a judge, or anyone you have to tell the truth to. The fact people agree to talk to him and admit is so dumb. This show only ever caught absolute idiots.
>>222352659Because going to the house isn’t a crime. Contestants are only invited to the house after they’ve committed a crime. The crime is “online solicitation of a minor” and only some states have it on their books. It specifically criminalizes propositioning a person believed to be under 18 by the perpetrator. The police get to decide what the perpetrator believed. it’s a literal thought crime.
>>222353005depends on the state where the infraction occurred but there are specific laws that allow you to arrest someone for sexually soliciting someone you believe to be a minor.idc if you say it's right or wrong, that's just how the law works. it's not entrapment.
>>222353011They usually get them on the phone as well beforehand dummy. Rarely is it ever completely done in chatlogs.
>>222353030>thought crime>literally acting on thoughts by soliciting minor through chat and phone conversationsfound the pedo
>>222353011Why are you in the house in the first place then if it's not you in the chat logs?
>>222353011>This show only ever caught absolute idiots.yeah the thing that bothers me is the whole conceptdo these guys really think they're going to sleep with teenager strangers they meet online? has that ever happened in history?the only guys who can do that are probably celebrities hooking up with fans or somethingsadly, most sexual exploitations happen in close relations, not hookups with anons in a chatroom
>>222353011they dont even have to answer his questions, just immediately walk out the door and lawyer up.
>>222353005>>222353030>THE DECOYS ARENT EVEN UNDERAGE THOUGH!>THE ONLY WAY YOU SHOULD LEGALLY BE ABLE TO ARREST THESE PEOPLE IS BY USING REAL UNDERAGE DECOYS!>>222353111Plenty of these dudes were caught multiple times. Not even jailtime and a sex offender registration stopped them. Even if you're catching only the boldest, dumbest predators it's at least taking them off the streets and idenifying the threat early.
>>222352949>>222352973>>222352994>>222353065damn this Decoy is a slut
>>222353166>just immediately walk out the doorwhere a dozen cops are waiting to arrest you?
It's funny seeing people try to criticise these series without sounding like they are defending pedos>it's wrong because uh... it's just not rightThe only arguments against are that it hinders investigation and charges but without the sting op, the traditional law enforcement would have to wait for the crime to occur. If the pedo hesitates due to the series, it's done it's purpose in actually preventing harm to children.whatever ugliness from retarded copycat series mixups that may occur is worthy tradeoff. TCAP has been a net-positive for child welfare in the online space and Hanson is a hero.
>>222352994>>222352973>>222352949I read these in his voice. His delivery was comedic genius.
>>222353106They need to prove that, you don't need an excuse, you dont answer, you don't talk to them, leave and get arrested and continue to say nothing to the cops and get a lawyer. It is not your job to provide proof of a crime. If you wanna do that, go ahead, idiot.
>>222352875yiou want to castrate vigilantes but not pedos...if there are any hackers in chat, do your work on this pedo
>>222352659it's not entrapment if it's funny
>>222352659It’s easy to spot a pedo because they ask this question
Entrapment:>say you want to fuck a kid or we’ll break your kneecaps with a hammer >o-okay… I want to fuck a kid please untie me and let me go nowNot entrapment:>hey mister you sure look like you could go for some kid fuckin’, could we interest you in this 13 year old?>boy howdy! don’t mind if I do!If you’re not under duress and you make the choice knowingly and willingly it is not entrapment.
>>222353190ofcourse youre gonna get detained but my point is that you shouldnt say a word to the cops or chris
>>222353190What are they arresting you for? You never confirmed it was you. They might stop to question you, but they cannot arrest you for being let into a house by someone. That's not trespassing, there's 0 crimes committed. Unless you wanna admit an illegal chat log includes your screen name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLe4QcENVog&t=899>what is a "BBC", Tyler?Did Chris go too far when he outed this white guy's fetish for big black cocks?
>>222353193Exactly. There is no other way to deter these crimes without putting children in harm's way.Hansen has also repeatedly helped to put Roblox on blast for failing to stop the same behavior, since it's essentially pedophile central now.People calling this a 'thought crime' or 'victimless crime' are just outing themselves.
>>222353263You've either never seen the show or you're completely fucking retarded.They have it worked out so they can easily match the person through personally identifiable information such as chat logs,selfies, and phone logs.
>>222353287I am willing to play devil's advocate, and back in the day yahoo and AOL and various other chatrooms had role play chat and things of that nature. And plenty of people got off on the idea. Someone getting a message from a supposed 15 year old online saying they wanna meet up makes them good. I would agree these are victimless nothing crimes.That is when it stayed online, people that actually drove to meet an underage person, yea fuck them.
>>222352770I mean you can argue that 22 and 17 is not the best thing but it's not "your life is over buddy" territory. These retards need to be lynched
>>222352659>how is this not entrapment?A general police sting of people breaking the law is not "entrapment" . They have no knowledge of who these guys are until they knock on the door. -- You would have to show how the police had insider knowledge as to your special circumstance. ( IE you normally would not break the law but... this reason you might ) -- The police tailored the sting to entrap you specifically .Financial, is the best example>You work as a Brinks guard.>>They know your wife has cancer and the insurance is doing shit and if you had a few hundred thousand right now you could save her life.>>They put out a "Bait Bag" of money that has no destination on your truck . " Hey this bag is lost , if you just took it no one would know !! " The court could take the view that a "reasonable person" could feel irresistible pressure to take the money and the police created the opportunity where none would normally exist That is entrapment. There is no "special circumstances" where you might, as a reasonable person, have to fuck and under-aged girl.
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>>222352659The question isn't so much about if any specific sting is entrapment but in if a specific sting is clear entrapment will the courts recognise it as such, the answer is no so the only logical answer is to ban pedo stings entirely to prevent miscarriages of justice
>>222353358I'll just refer to the latter part of your statement because yea - in To Catch a Predator these people drive out to these bait houses with drugs and condoms to fuck a minor. They pretend they were 'just kidding' and 'they werent really gonna do it' the whole time. At what point do you stop believing them, when they've already done the deed?
>>222352659Is this another thread where pedo seethe about people hating them?
>>222353335I have seen the show, you are being absolutely brown right now with how little you know about the law. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt. You remove reasonable doubt when you confess. You have no business telling anyone you committed a crime and reframing from talking about is literally your best defense. Why on earth should they confess when they could remain silent? Being arrested doesn't mean you're being charged, being charged doesn't mean you'll be found guilty. I get you're probably black and the cops would just kill you, but for white people there is a chance to get out of these things if you don't just give them everything.
>>222352770The age of consent is either 16 or 17 in the vast majority of the US
>>222353385
>>222353503>I have seen the show, you are being absolutely brown right now with how little you know about the law.Prove it, faggot. Solicit a minor and go meet up with them if you think it's such a victimless crime
>>222353553>goal post movedNot what I said, esl confirmed.
>>222352659they dont even get arrested. they would get apprehended, MAYBE put on the sexual offender list and let go. thats why some people showed up multiple times. this show just ruined the pedos reputation, not actually put them behind bars. its basically a threat to other pedos. it was also super popular at the time so they only had themselves to blame if they didnt realize what was going on
>aww man, now i know my mom is gonna take away my computer privileges.
they need to do this in roblox
>>222353111happens all the time today with kids on discord, roblox, snapchat, instagram, etc. i just saw a video how some people on youtube put furry porn videos on low contrast, title it a code word, kids will comment on it to chat in a different site, boom. pedo got a mark
>>222353553>99.1% conviction rate across 627 prosecuted casesThis how I can tell you didn't go to college. 25 arrests per month in 2006 alone is 300 arrests for that year. You telling me from 2002-2018 50% of their arrests were in 2006? Really.... it's most of these arrests don't result in prosecuted cases. Thus the 99.1% is based on the stat of the cases that see trial, not of the people that allegedly committed crimes, or even of the arrested. You're a dummy who doesn't realize, they don't show the people on TV that are smart end evade charges.
>>222353743>You're a dummy who doesn't realize, they don't show the people on TV that are smart end evade charges.they also don't show most of the people who are medically retarded, or so pathetic that you might actually feel bad for them.thats why the Vincent Ambrosio episode got so infamous.
>>222352659It's not entrapment but it is thoughtcrime. The "victim" is an imaginary hypothetical person who only exists in the "predator's" mind.
>>222353065there’s a guy in Virginia serving a 20 year sentence over just chat logs.
>>222353743>>222353743>you dont realize that they dont show people on tv that are smart and evade chargesWhy would they show that you dumb fuck? Of course not all charges are going to stick. What point are you trying to make besides massaging your own pathetic ego"They should just keep their mouth shut and call a lawyer"WOW NO SHIT? Thanks Nostradumbass!
>>222353829I think a lot of people agreed to have their segment shown in a plea deal to get reduced charges.
>>222353086>solicit someone over the internet >legal>perform legal action while police can say you were thinking x>illegalThus, thought crime.
>>222353993This is 100% part of the deal.
>>222353358Vitaly (copycat livestreamer) got in trouble because he stung an indian guy that was into noncon rape RP with a decoy, he bullied the guy and exposed him online. Caused a lot of noise and most of the internet came to the guy's defense because he had "technically" not committed a crime, arguing that she had consented to RP posing as a child. The sting team did a sloppy job with the wording which led to the guy being as bold as making videos declaring full innocence. I would argue that he is still a high threat that should be exposed, he is from a culture where rape is the norm and publicly expressing that his fetish is rape/pedophilia. The only difference between him and the idiots walking into Hansen's traps is context, this guy knew of the stings and pre-emptively made a defense. It's beyond thought crime if you are making any kind of movement. The pedos usually sincerely believe that the internet warped their mind into a snowballing fetish out of their control
>>222354014Federal Law (18 U.S.C. §§ 2422, 2423) : "It is illegal to use the internet or mail to entice, coerce, or persuade anyone under 18 to engage in prostitution or any sexual activity"
>>222353979>made a good point>someone disagreedYea I don't know man, learn to read a reply thread.
>>222353210they usually had the contestants bring specific items or arrive at specific times or follow specific instructions that married them to the chat logs.
>>222354058I’m pretty sure vitaly went to jail for assaulting a random woman while on drugs.Didn’t he also get arrested in thailand or something for being a nuisance?
>>222353287The “crime” they’re deterring is saying lewd things online. People who are actually going to harm children don’t talk about sex ever. Even when they’re balls deep in a screaming kid
>>222353384>There is no "special circumstances" where you might, as a reasonable person, have to fuck and under-aged girl.they are creating an opportunity that wouldn't otherwise happen on it's own though. No girl is going to actively talk to these incel men and try to have sex with them.
>>222354155>it's just saying lewd things onlinecontinue to muddy the waters, anon. I'm sure it'll be a great help when you finally get collared.Claim it's an infringement of first amendment rights too
>>222354070Look up the penalty for that real quick anon. Is it 20 years in prison?
>>222354133>they usually had the contestants wait, is this a game show? Is there a way to win?
>>22235422810 to life palGood Luck
>>222354070when was this law made though? I doubt it was a law in the 2000's when the show aired.
>>222354236Yes, if you manage to rape chris hansen before the cops tase you then you will be given a written warning
>>222354284best play is to whip it out and jerk off to completion in front of him.
>>222354070The state laws have the word “believe” in the statute which makes them stupidly easy to charge. They never try for the federal law because you can just say “I never believed she was under 18” and then the prosecution has to prove you didn’t mean anything you said in the chat logs. With “believe” in the statute the perpetrator has to prove they didn’t mean what was in the chat logs.
>>222354247It was first but as it’s written it’s basically impossible to charge.
>>222354236>Is there a way to win?open up the doorget on the floorwalk the dinosaur
>>222352711>Sexual solicitation with a minor.it's not a minor thoughimaginary crime
>>222354284>I like ya. And I want ya.
>>222354848>but sir I was buying fake drugs from a police officer, so no crime was committed! I'm innocent!
>>222353030>thought crimeDo you think these dudes showed up for patty cake or something?
>>222354896It’s b8, anon. And if it’s actually legitimately not, that other is anon is not someone who is worth replying to
>>222353263>but they cannot arrest you for being let into a house by someoneSo, either you were "let in" and you admit you were sexting up a minor.Or you have no business with said minor and you are tresspassing.But then again, it checks out that pedoshit like you also holds sovereign citizen tier understanding of law.
>>222353216>17>pedo
>>222354963I've seen a lot of people are unironically that retarded. And those were not lowlifes or retarded junkies, those were normies.Hell these same normies actually film their crimes and post them online (not pedo shit but I start to think it's only because that will get instaban of tiktok and/or facebook).
>>222354903Going to the house isn’t a crime.
>>222354896>>222354963That’s the literal textbook definition of entrapment. Buy busts only skirt it if the police never say they’re police. They are also allowed to lie. The wire has a scene where cops flag down a dude and tell him to go buy drugs for them and then arrest him for possession when he comes back. That will get tossed but it’s an arrest, which is all they care about.
>>222352770>Almost everyone holding a phone even though some are not recording anything meaningful.I hate people so fucking much.
>>222352770>8 highschoolers who baited this guy following him out with their phones out Kek, its such a performative joke
>>222352770How old was the girl?
>>222355536>>222355519It’s not a joke. It’s effeminate males seeking to eliminate competition from older males.
>>222352659who cares, kill them allhang pedosboil pedosburn pedosmash pedosdismember pedosflay pedosthrow acid on pedospoision pedosstab pedosshoot pedosbury pedos alivedrown pedosbeat pedos to death
>>222354181>they are creating an opportunity that wouldn't otherwise happenBut that is all persons. All people in that chat room can take the bait. No one specific is being targeted, the police do not have knowledge of these people or their weaknesses before hand.For "entrapment" you need a trap tailored to one person, with police having prior knowledge that you would be enticed to enter into the trap. A trap for the general public that any no good nik would commit the crime if given the opportunity, it doesn't matter how rare the opportunity is .
>>222352875>highschoolers who baited this guy following him out with their phones out>Kek, its such a performative jokedon't worry they want the same for you pedo
>>222352659>Oh no, those poor pedophiles
>>22235572717 year old newborn.
>>222354181They acted on it though.Cars a capable of over 100mph. That doesn't mean you do it though, does it?
>>222356053acting on it isn’t a crime. they’re only invited to the house when they’ve committed a crime
>Sir the perp is Jewish again >Damn it. Pull the episode.
>>222352659cry harder, tranny
>>222356644>acting on it isn’t a crimeSo acting on molesting a kid isn't a crime?Give your head a wobble
>>222355204You're the one not understanding the law. Trespassing does allow good faith mistakes regarding children who live on the property. Misunderstandings do happen. How would a child ever have friends over? A child going over to a child's house is as illegal according to you. >and you admit you were sexting up a minor.Again, why would you do this? I get you're probably some heckin autist that always tells the truth. I am saying, never at all admit to crimes to anyone. What about the law requires you to answer questions to Chris Hansen? Let alone police, where your rights include to remain silent.
>>222355882>Oct '22>Russian father who forced his paedophile best friend to dig his own grave and kill himself after discovering he had sexually abused his daughter, six, is freed from jail a year early after serving just six months Vyacheslav Matrosov, 35, has been released early after a wave of sympathy His friend Oleg Sviridov repeatedly sexually abused his daughter, then aged six Matrosov made paedophile dig his own grave after seeing evidence on his phone He then made Sviridov, 32, kill himself and secretly buried his corpse
>>222352770These idiots are like the fat fucks in hockey pads pretending to be Batman in Dark Knight
>>222353106You’re there to meet John Pederson about a construction job.
>>222353111Look up the predator who says his mom is gonna take his computer away. Literally the biggest loser they ever caught but was a prior diddler with a minor he met online
>>222353524obligatory
>>222355903>>222356053the other post I was responding to said if a man needs money for his wife's cancer treatment and they left a bag of money, then it's reasonable that a man would break the law and take it.In pedo hunting, you have lonely men who have never talked to females before, and all of a sudden they are not only getting attention but an offer for sex. They aren't going to be thinking rationally and will go for the bait even if it is illegal because they are so starved for female contact.
>>222358469Stop trying to justify child abuse.
>>222352770are zoomers more obsessed with clout then trying to get laid?
>>222358494I'm not justifying child abuse, I'm just saying they are baiting lonely men into committing crimes. If these men were actively seeking out underaged girls then that's different and should be put up against the wall.
>>222358566And those "lonely men" went to the house with the intention of abusing a child.What part of that are you not understanding my guy?
>>222358636in their minds, the child was consenting and there is no victim.In reality there was no sex act that was going to happen anyways, and there never would be if not for the entrapment.
>>222358679And you've just described a child abuser.Look at what you've wrote. "in their mind a child was consenting..".NO CHILD CAN CONSENTAgain, give your head a wobble.
>>222354058Thats the same dude that couldnt get it up for Diamond Kitty in that bang bus bit. That shit was awful. it sucks because ive had that problem a few times but the girls i was with didnt look too good either.
>>222358706I'm saying from their perspective it's not a big deal. Teenage girls have sex so what difference is it if the man is a few years older?
Hmmmmmmm...
>>222353524>ps3player1978Holy fuck
>>222358753Seriously, get help before you harm a child.
Are Americans really so dumb that they don't understand what entrapment is?
>>222357460Again, if law incitement by law enforcement is the only reason someone would commit a crime, then it is entrapment, thus, going to the house, after being invited, cannot be a crime
>>222358509One leads to the other. By being a heckin' good decent person they believe they'll get some pussy.
>>222358866We have a moderately large group of individuals in this country who think they can get away with driving a car without a license or insurance just by telling the cop that they’re “traveling”, not “driving”. So yes.
>>222358944Sovereign citizen videos are some of the funniest things I've seen.Not a fan of police but the one where the cop was having none of it and started breaking the guys windows to drag him out was pretty satisfying.
>>222358509yes. They think followers is the best thing ever. Some even think followers = fuckable.
>>222352659I tried giving the new show a chance but it’s so boring. Most of the time to retarded cops have to make themselves visible right away for the highlight reel so the pedos shut down so they don’t spill their guts to Chris. Imagine what we would have missed out on if a retard cop just had to say to Vincent ambrosio some corny tough guy shit.
>>222352994> ...DO YOU HAVE ANY COUNDOM?
>>222353216The vigilantes who are literally doing it for free youtube cash? Yeah.I baited one of the predator poaching channels into a meet, it was funny watching them harass literally everyone showing up to an empty park in the middle of the day
>>222355496Okay well here’s the thing anon, that scenario you’re talking about from The Wire didn't happen on To Catch a Predator, it happened on The Wire and yes that would be considered entrapment. Also TCAP had a pretty high conviction rate, any time someone says otherwise it’s because they’re stupid or trying to be misleading on purpose because the first episode, the only one where they weren’t working directly with the police did see a lot of those guys skate. Not all of them but after that they did a lot better job securing assistance from law enforcement to have people charged and tried.
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>>222358469The mental gymnastics here are astounding, even for 4chan levels of retardation.
>the amount of people defending pedos in these threadsI like to hope it’s all just irony and b8 but the sheer volume mixed with the fact I’ve seen plenty of these autists takes before makes me unfortunately doubt it’s all goofs
>>222360577It's why i keep coming back here to be honest. The retardation levels are off the charts.
>>222358469Although I disagree with you , Fight the good fight . I understand what you are arguing -- That these men are pathetic and there was no "real 13 year old girl" so they was no possibility that a crime could take place. But the law does not work like that, the reason that the mentally ill are not held criminally responsible is because they can not form Mens Rea , Latin for "Guilty Mind" . In these cases , the men do form Mens Rea , they do believe they spoke to an under age girl and an underage girl is there and they are going to sex with them. It would be similar to people hiring a hit man from a want ad in Soldier of Fortune, and the "hit man" turns out to be a cop. It does not matter if that target was never in danger or the cop wasn't a real hit man , they have still committed a crime.
>>222360729It’s almost comforting in a way isn’t it? If not a bit disheartening to know we walk amongst these
>>222360577>>222360729>>222360801Honestly, it's enraging.These "people", well if you can even call them that, are the same sort who will defend to the death their right to abuse and harm children, but will scream and shout about a child being given life saving care like puberty blockers, claiming it's harmfulHonestly, they make me sick.
>>222360851I see what you did there
>>222360785on a surface level, yes they are guiltybut morally, what they did was wrong because they wanted tv ratings and ruined lives to do it. Why not just have a girl in chatrooms minding her own business and have men come to her and initaite conversations? They don't do that because they'd have no content for ratings. So they need to fabricate situations that would never happen on their own. No girl is going to go messaging older ugly men for sex. They are going to message attractive ones (who won't take the bait) or they'll go talk to boys their own age to fuck.
Weren't there a lot of stings that didn't actually catch anyone? Or they kept getting the same guy.
>>222360028Pedo hunters are funny lot. Most of them are pedos themselves, and the other half are going after the lowest hanging fruits all for that social media clout and to look like they're doing something good.Seen some videos where they've baited a 13yo going to meet a 13yo and not believed he was 13 when he turned up to the meet. Seen other videos where a pedo hunter is accusing a clearly disabled autist, standing in his garden, of masturbating to children while the guy is standing there literally not capable of understanding what's being said to him.
>>222361107another guy recently had a girl bait people saying she was 18 and getting the guys horny and asking to meet up for sex, then at the last minute she would say "oh sorry I'm actually 16" and that's how they would bait people. The girl forgot to use the "i'm actually 16" part so the guy thought she was 18 and they went to expose him. He's getting sued for it now.
>>222360028I'll always think about that one pedo catcher who got his ass shot because he thought attacking two teenagers in a park, at night was a good idea.
>>222356731Literally caught a Rabbi on air but okay
>>222361151Isn't that how a lot of these stings work in the first place?They claim they're 18 right up until they agree to meet and then claim "oh, whoops, I'm underaged hehe"
>>222361101No. You’re thinking of the first sting where they didn’t directly involve the police until afterwards so like half of them got their charges dropped but after that they would have cops on site to arrest them as they walked out and had a very high conviction rate.
>>222352659Without getting upset, explain why entrapment is bad.
>>222361217I’m sure it has happened with some amateurs, the ones who stream on rumble and kick and shit and just do it for clout to beat up retards but they never did anything of the sort on TCAP, that would ACTUALLY be entrapment.
>>222361249because if you set up crimes, you're going to get a handful of people who will commit the crime when they otherwise wouldn't do it on their own.
>>222361295Okay. Why is this bad?
>>222361226There was definitely some kind of hidden side effect to TCAP setting up shop. Like that other guy said, they only ever caught idiots and people with mental disabilities.
>>222360851kek
>>222361027Oh yeah , I don't fault you there. My morals are not your morals and Vice a versa .The ethics and purpose of the TV show is questionable as to it's true purpose., but not illegal .
>>222361315you're wasting resources going after innocent people when you could be going after actual criminals
>>222361027>>222361332is it morally grey? sure. but one could argue that the mentally handicapped weirdos would still be lurking in chatrooms for underage kids if TCAP didn't out them.Refusing to out these people for moral reasons will not the make problem magically disappear.
>>222353524Literally nothing wrong with this, she was cool with it and everyone would have a good time.
>>222361367Mite B Cool
>>222353216>in chatWhat??
>>222361322Well yeah because they cast such a wide net that the ones who were extra dangerous because they aren’t retards about it would sniff out they’re not talking to a kid. You gotta remember the only ones who showed up were people who were fooled by some 30-something doing their best impression of how they think a 12 year old types in AOL chatrooms. Have you read any of the logs? They are very much not subtle but the decoy never leads the conversation, they just keep them rattling off depravity by replying “wut” or “o wow”
Question: Would you even be able to get an invite to the decoy house if you don't incriminate yourself first?Like say "you sound nice I would like to meet you and hang out and go from there" without getting sexual at all?if the answer is "no" then the decoys most likely egg these men on into thinking they actually want them to have sexual contact with them and it will be okay
The worst part about TCAP and the recent crusade is that you can't even criticise Hansen or a his various shows and their approaches without being called a pedo defender. >>222361354For instance, actual sex traffickers and fuckers with kids in their basements aren't worried about being caught on some chat room. The resources are going toward petty entertainment instead of traffickers.
>>222361364I don't know how the show worked, but I'm guessing they aren't targeting the weirdos who lurk chatrooms looking for underaged girls.
Royce Nowak
>>222361409You’ve never read any of the chat logs have you, literally every single one these guys are like immediately talking about sex nonstop, sometimes over the course of days. In theory, were that to ever in a million years happen they’d probably just stop talking to them and move on
I wonder how much of the chat logs are made up?I'm betting at least half of it is.
>>222361459There's got to be a way to talk them into inviting you over without incriminating yourself and being able to get off on a technicality "but sir I just wanted to meet with her and be her friend! if we formed a relationship we wouldnt do anything sexual until she was of age!"
>>222361511nobody is going to buy that. There's 0 reason for you to be meeting up with underaged girls unless you have some sort of prior relationship
>>222361511They only invite someone over who’s already committed a crime. The coming over is an added crime.
>>222353524this is where mite b cool is from? ahhhhh
>>222361555What if I want to make sure she is groomed into a proper young lady before courting her in her late teens before marrying her?
>>222361579Don’t forget to have her sign a marriage contract over a slide of pizza
I've been talking to this 13yo girl online.She's flirty, she wants to meet, and she's told me she's an FBI agent. Pretty cool for a girl of that age, right?
When pedohysteria finally becomes taboo, it will be funny to see people like Chris Hansen and other retarded "pedo" hunters be cancelled. The dumbest shit is why do they always make the decoy like 17? It baffles me that they exclusively go to late teen ages that are legal in most countries. Why not go way lower, like 6 or 7? Or are people not stupid enough to think single digit aged kids would be messaging them online?
>>222352659People get all up in arms about these small fry and pretend the rich and powerful fuckers who capture and kills 1,000s of children just don't exist.
>>222353592looks like my coworker but with less hair
>>222355727I think 17 but she pretended to be 18, so the guy wasn't even a predator
>>222362641>the rich and powerful fuckers who capture and kills 1,000s of children just don't exist.they don't exist
>>222362641Epstein is a mass hysteria too though. Dude got massages from older teens and people went full satanic panic pizzagate retard mode.
>>222352659What a Jewish thing to say...
>>222362641Low hanging fruit innit.It's like drawn pictures and AI creations. Far better to go after that, and far less work, all so they can claim the same benefit.
>>222362641They don't exist. You're conflating an actual story about a rich pedophile who dabbled in sex trafficking with this fiction that he had a small countries worth of children living with him on an island for 30 years
>>222363171Ok Jew
>Anon: Hey>Decoy: Hey>Anon: I like your pic>Decoy: Thnx! It's from my birthday last week>Anon: How old are you?>Decoy: I'm 12>Anon: Wow!>Anon: I'm gonna come to your house and slap my cock all over your slutty little face>Anon: A nasty little underaged whore like you >Anon I'm going to make you slobber all over my cock when I make you choke on it>Anon: Can't wait to pound that little pink underaged pussy until you cry >Decoy: Well I can't do that over the internet>Anon: I'll bring silicone lube, weed and vodka>Anon: Make sure e a little underaged cunt like you is drunk and stoned before I fuck you hard in every hole>Anon: Just knowing I'm breaking the law makes me want you so bad >Decoy: mite b cool>Decoy: Bring some M&M's
>>222352770This girl probably went on to fuck some chad within the week and none of these faggots ever crossed her mind again
>>222363800Whatever makes you feel like a big hero
>>222363800>>222364528I’m going to go ahead and say what everyone is thinking: you both are annoying faggots and the reason this board is in its current abysmal state. Take 1 (ONE) on your way out
>>222364916Fuck off pedo
>>222364956Good one. I actually made several of the posts in this thread refuting and calling out the degenerate retards who try to argue “they’re just LONELY and being taken ADVANTAGE of” or “ENTRAPMENT.” Pick your battles, sperg
>>222352659Can't make them show up.Also who cares, they're pedophiles.
>>222365073Yeah, course you did. Pedo.
>>222352770>17 and 22Nigga olease
>>222352949Love this one. He slams his beeper/cellphone/sunglasses to the ground like a tantrum.
>>222365119Ah shit, I got it stuck on a loop.
>>222360577Feel like throwing up!! ME SO RONELY a kid will do!
>>222365110If they were all posing as 10 year olds you'd be right; but some of they catfished some of these pathetic bastards with fake 16 year olds.
>>222365229TCAP made it a point to not go over 15. Usually they were in the 12-14 range.
>>222352659It is. They basically arrested people for just wanting to do something, it's insane.
>>222352770This is why I choose to be friendless as a gen z, these are my peers.
>>222365791These are absolutely not your peers dude, venture outside and socialize for the love of god. People by and large don’t talk or act like this so please do yourself a massive favor and log off the internet every once in a while, go hang out with people
>>222352770this is completely ridiculous
>>222352659cuz you touch yourself to little kids
>>222366063In highschool some broccoli hair faggot did an "interview" with me in the hallway and edited it with "memes" and posted it on tiktok and everybody in my school saw it and they made fun of me for years and called me a school shooter because I had a hoodie on and was quiet so shut the fuck up
>>222352659somebody get these PEDOS out of here
>>222352770What in the clown car ass shit is going on in this clip? Why are there 50 zoom zooms here?
>>222352659It probably isBut I don't think entrapment should be a legal practiceAnd it's really funnyYou should always be able to entice people to commit crimes then punish them for it. Like that guy who put a taser in a bike seat and shocked black people when they stole it
>>222353216Yes. Castrate all normies and moralfags
>>222355204>were sexting up a minorthey didnt. they were sexting adult actors roleplaying as teenagers
>>222366377They were vanquishing an evil child molester preying on an innocent 17yo child who then tried to run them over.
>>222356053>americans think going 100mph is something completely surreal and unrealistictop fucking kek
>>222361249Because its literally creating bullshit problems
>>222352659pedo hunting is so funny cause smart pedos will just go to the third world and find a brothel or something, so all they catch is actually mentally retarded people that actually think they are meeting up with a 13 year old girl then it turns into a retard fight.
nothin' funny going on around here
>>222367469>His TCAP charges were dropped due to accepting a plea deal for the other charges he was facing at the time. This was due to his lawyer subpoenaing the computer on which the chat took place, which Perverted Justice refused to honor. The FBI was tasked to take the computer from PJ on a court order and while they were on the way to PJ’s headquarters to seize it, PJ members wiped all files pertaining to Schumacher’s case, which was the only evidence the prosecution had to go on. What did Perverted Justice mean by this?
>>222367520The evidence was all made up so they scrubbed it before they got found out?
>>222367550Or there were things also on the hard drive they did not want lawl enforcement to see.
>>222352770Genocide zoomers
>>222367585Makes you wonder if they had CP on it that they would use to try and bait people with it.
>>222361354False dichotomy. Try again.
>>222367936nta but god damn everyone is just looking for an excuse to be righteously violent>erm, heckin false dichotomy chud!why dont you just go around mugging people? or get into an mma or boxing fight? you are a massively insecure faggot
>>222367964Not an argument. Try again without getting emotional.
>>222352659What's so bad about being attracted to 13 year old girls? I saw this 13yo on tiktok and the comments were full of people saying they're "cooked"
>>222368034>erm, try again without getting emotional!i'll do whatever the fuck i want you absolute faggot, why dont you go back to entrapping retards on the internet? or are they outsmarting you again? now reply with >not x, try again with y
>>222368090As 13yo girls go, I've seen a lot hotter than that
>>222368090Chat, am I cooked? I think I'm cooked.
>>222368090
>>222367520Schumacher ended up spending most of his life in prison anyway because he’s a true white trash moron
in the past, a decade ago, his show had decoys pretending to be teens chatting online in a regular chat. or a game chat or aol or something...in his recent YouTube episodes, they make the decoy be a teen girl being sold for prostitution by her "mom" a horny guy will be on a prostitution website looking for prostitutes and the decoy will say " I'm.not available but my 15 year old girl is available"which is interesting because then it adds a prostitution charge on top of everything. not only are the guys meeting a teen for sex, but now it's PAYING a term for sex. it's like even "to catch a predator " early episodes were more "innocent" where the decoy was a naive girl on aolbut now the decoy is a "15 year old prostitute" being pimped out by her "mom" it's like making it extra illegal.
>>222352770is this like the case where a group of retarded college students set up a 18 year old decoy and a 22 guy showed up and they beat him up. now the vigilantes are going to jail? ( yes the decoy in the conversation was 18. they are that retarded)
>>222368237nobody faces jailtime for anything anymore, especially non white people
>>222364339one guy literally got away without charges because his conversation was pretty pg 13. no sex words no curse words.
>>222367936you dont even know what that is
>>222368250at least 2 of the vigilantes that punched him are going to jail when the guy press charges
>>222368273again, cops dont do shit anymore. america has fully adopted the "fuck you got mine" and "thats life" mentality. land of the free
>>222352659>entrapment is when you want to fuck 12 year old little girls and boys and get ridiculed on national televisionPedos are lucky there wasn't have a makeshift trap rope to hang them as soon as they step through the door
>>222368283my point was that the vigilantes were so fucking absolutely retarded that they made their decoy 18. it was some 22 year old girl.
>>222368323so? nobody will face consequences except for the innocent guy. maybe he should have pulled himself up by his bootstraps idk
>>222353263>showing up at the same exact time as the chat logs, with the same face as your pfp, on the same address that was provided to you>nobody can confirm it was youI'm sure that will hold up in court and anyone will believe you, god, we need to purge retarded third worlders from this board, flags NOW!!
>>222368353>I'm sure that will hold up in courtit didn't, see >>222367520
>>222354848>"i'm going to kill you bitch!!">drive somewhere for 2 hours with the intent to kill someone>woman calls cops>"wtf officer why are you arresting me i didn't kill her, it was a imaginary crime"this is what you sound like, retard
>>222368423tiger king basically.
>>222358469normal people and non pedos don't usually take up the offer of a 13 year old girl and drive upwards of 1 hour to fuck said little girl, because it's abuse and taking advantage, kill yourself already retard
>>222358566>"i'm 13 years old mister!">"oh fuck yeah little girl let me go to you and fuck you"yes they actively sought after little kids to abuse and rape, if they weren't pedos, they wouldn't even engage with little girls let alone search for them in chats, fuck off
>>22236847013 is legal in Argentina
>>222368423>"I'm going to kill you, Ronald McDonald!">drive to local McDonald's>find out Ronald is a fictional clown not even a real person>get put in prison for intending to kill someone who doesn't even exist a literal fictional characterBased thought crimes.
>>222361027the thing here is, that if it wasn't a sting operation and was a innocent little girl that doesn't know any better talking to a 40 year old pedophile, and he showed up, it's absolutely rape and abuse, that's the point, the freaks went there with the intent to fuck 13 year old kids
>>222368513they go to jail for explicit hardcore conversations with the decoy. every fucking case, the guys text the most perverted shit you can think of. these guys just met this girl online and are saying pretty x rated shit. that's why they get in trouble
>>222368423the crime is literally imagined
>>222368542Yeah the actual crime is committed before they ever show up at the house. The Hansen convo is just for the content. They operate in states that have laws that specifically state it's a crime to send graphic communications with a person they BELIEVE to be under a certain age. The only thing they have to do is state that the decoy is 13, then wait for the guy to make sexual remarks, and the crime is committed. Then the meeting up part is just a convenient way to get him to turn himself in but not necessary for a prosecutor other than further establishing intent.
>>222368563you can go to jail for attepting to commit a crime, if you go with the intent to kill someone, you get arrested and the crime is stopped, same thing here, the pedos went with the intent to fuck 13 year old girls and got stopped, it wasn't imaginary, they went there to fuck 13 year old girls
>>222368305no, entrapment is when you repeatedly try to initiate conversations with an 18 year old person with learning disabilities and the mental processing of a 10 year old
>>222364339Kekk
>>222368603>he mentally ill he's not guilty guysOk he's still a pedophile freak
>>222368563the crime is talking to a teen about sex see: >>222368566discussing sex itself is the crime.because cop bodycams of other arrests are on YouTube. and this other Jewish guy was in a parking lot going to meet a 14 year old. there was no decoy. the decoy was an adult cop. not s college actor. they arrested the Jewish guy and he started shaking and crying. these sting operations are done and it's on YouTube
>>222352770Is this how zoomers cope with the inescapable reality that pedophiles control every aspect of their lives from the government to the media? They police age gaps irl?
for me it's the black guy who says "i just wanted to test this haha" when hansen shows up and then tries to run away
>>222368650no they just wanna go viral at any cost
>>222368090not attracted, but mildly annoyed
>>222368676I do feel bad for yr guys that have families or people rely on them. one nerdy fat guy was taking care of his disabled elderly parents. he was the only one with a job. when he went to jail he said his parents would be homeless and he started crying.another one was a single father of 4 and said his kids were going to the shelter or something. I guess I feel bad for their families
>>222364339jej
>>222352770millenial here. when i was 22 i met irl this 17 girl i knew from a website. she was a full blown young woman not very different from the girls at my uni. nothing predatory nor perverted -as i say, fully developed woman and as mature as i was, probably more. we dated. there were some jokes from my friends but i never felt like i was doing anything wrong that i could be publicly shamed for.shes now my wife and mother my children.genZ is broken. and btw, both genZ woke and chuds are on board with that, so its not really ideology.
>>222368868>things that didnt happen for 100 alex
>>222352659define entrapment
>>222352770When i was in highschool it wasnt uncommon at all for the hot slutty girls to have 25 year old boyfriends who didnt go to college and just worked and had money to buy them weed and booze and have a place to party at. Nobody batted an eye. Sure we called them loser bums but thats about it.... we literally had to compete with adult men in highschool
>>222353193based
>>222368876whats so unbelievable about my insipid story, sleuth?
>>222352949cringe. give him a bullet
>>222368876i believe it, boomers were in their 30s marrying 16-19 year old girls. before the internet getting laid was unfathomably easy, they literally just had to go outside and talk to people, they had nothing better to do anyways.
>>222368967>>222368868samefag
some of you are retarded and it shows. if a nigga drives to the house he's guilty end of story. a lot of them it's said drove hours to get there. nobody drives hours to another state just to do innocent things with an underage girl who they think is alone. not to mention they often bring alcohol and condoms
>>222368996cope. im a zoomer too, his story is entirely believable. age gaps are a recent zoomer hysteria
>>222368957>>222368949>>222368876your dad or your grandpa is probably older than your momthat's how it always was
>>222368996i specifically stated that i met my wide on the internet, which >>222368967 didn't quite catch. you are a moron, detective
>>222369014the entrapment issue comes when the decoy pushes for sex talk one guy was trying to talk sweet to a girl, he was trying to be cute with her on text then she would say "will you be my first will it hurt" or she says " how big is it"or "what will you do to me" then the dumb guy starts saying sex shitbut in some cases the decoy persuaded or pushed for the sex talk these guys obviously wanna fuck. but the show needs those sex texts
>>222369031ok and? are you gonna sit here and pretend that the internet back then was in any way similar to how it is now? you may aswell have said "i put a ad in a newspaper/message in a bottle." you are an unc, you wouldnt be able to meet a 17 year old and get away with it now, even if you were 22. god your brain is becoming slow and feeble
>>222369063black guys meet young girls now all the time. I've seen them at the mall. no snitching is still a thing.
>>222369063no? the point of my message was how much genZ has changed from millenials. another thing is how common is ADHD because apparently no one can grasp anything that is 2 lines long anymore.
>>222352691Entrapment by statutory definition can only be committed by an agent of the state.
>>222369118black guys are allowed to do whatever they want, white guys have to use dating apps and get no matches
>>222360557Wow are these homemade?
>>222369119>unc completely misses the pointold people literally never listen
>>222369137not only that but the girl's families know and everyone is ok .
>>222368868Im a millennial boomer and girls in my high school were regularly dating and fucking 22 year olds at 16 - 17 (mostly because they had cars and full time jobs with money to buy them things) We seethed about it but mostly because we were jealous of them stealing the hot girls, not because they were “pedos”Zoomers are the most puritanical cucked generation alive
>>222369155no, (You) missed the point. my internet comment was not to contradict that genZ but to point out that the samefag sleuth who thought was superclever would've discarded that option if he just read that fucking comment. so when i said genZ didn't catch my "internet" comment i wasn't throwing shit at her (You?) but at the detective.i agree with everything else.
>>222369188yep, saw it with the d4vd guy. groups essentially police themselves now since police are so lazy. white people let their "morals" (bitterness and vindictiveness) hold them back, while racial groups basically just sit around at some retail job their cousin got them and party all the time
>be me>prowl the chatrooms for 15yo puss in 2001>got one, agree to meet up.>her face when 12yo me drives up on my bicycle
that one white guy with the blaccent seemed absol based anyone know which one im talking about
>>222352659intention, they literally explain it in the show if you watch it
>>222369242Wiggers, weirdly, are some of the most based character builds. A white brain with a black mindset is kind of unstoppable.
>>222363171>rich pedophile who dabbled in sex traffickingthere's no single man "dabbling" in being a pimp. he needs a stable network and client list, and those are the bigger fish to fry. the pedos with real power.
>>222352659this place is such a god damn clusterfuck.
>>222368579there never was a 13yr old
>>222368504>I'm Ronald McDonald and you haven't got the balls to kill me.>I TOTALLY WILL!>You won't do shit. Come to X place at Y time. I'll be waiting there with a gun for you to kill me with.>I'm omw rn!Ha gottem.
>>222368090>having an attraction to annoying teenager girlsngmi
>>222369137>black guys are allowed to do whatever they wantwtf are you TALKING ABOUT
>Protagonist sacrifices all of his HP to defeat the final boss
>>222368237i think this is a video of that incident
>>222366158kwab
>>222352659Because Jews are profiting from it.
>>222368676For me it’s the guy who brought his friend to the sting and his friend said “I’m just the tagalong” like 13 times and now nobody remembers his name, he’s just known simply as “the tagalong”
>>222353524>>222361574Been here since 2009 and even I didn't know that
>>222352659Imagine blindly jumping through all of the evidence gathering hoops that TCAP made those predators jump through. How were those guys that fucking desperate for cunny that they couldn't see how they were obviously being strung along?
>>222368868There’s a good chance your own kids are going to view you as a predator when they find out lolBtw, this is not just something that happens to men, I saw a foid on Twitter getting cancelled by her fellow foids because she sent nudes to a 17-year-old when she was 22
>>222357855Who was in the wrong here?
>>222352770>YO>YO>HOLY YO>YO
>>222352770> A 22 YEAR OLD MEETING A 17 YEAR OLD THIS IS CHILD RAPE AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M GOING INSANE SAVE ME FEMINISM
>>222369221This didn't happen and you're a faggot
>>222353193>>222353287I understand and respect your points but assuming any critics are "outing themselves" is just an unfair, unnecessary ad hominem. It's just useless moral grandstanding
>>222354058>he is still a high threat that should be exposedLol. Imagine a society where everyone has to include their fetish or kink in their resume otherwise you don't know how much of a 'threat' they are.
>>222372927This is why I don’t really have an issue with TCAP and Hansen anymore, I used to think it was morally dubious at best and a violation of rights but really if a guy is that retarded and desperate to fall for this sting and be outed as the absolute worst criminal you could be to the entire nation just for a slim chance at some underage puss he should probably have an eye kept on him. I still think the Perverted Justice people had some demons they were hiding tho
>>222373604I mean there’s a pretty big difference between “I like putting feet in my mouth” and “I want to sexually violate a child”
>>222353524How do you defend this decoy?
>>222368868You preyed on a child, and have just admitted to it.
>>222372927Imagine being as ugly as the guys in tcap and thinking some 13 year old really wants it from you.
>>222373115Sharty is pedohysteria central though.
