>"Wow, these two characters are young and naive and have a lot of strong enemies, i sure wonder how they'll defeat the-">get constant ass-pulls and deus ex machinas to save their asses when they're in danger>get revealed as the chosen ones midway through their series so no matter what happens they'll win anyways>don't really learn anything or change positively by the end>shit and unsatisfying endings>end up as overworked wagies in the futureFuck these two franchises.
When I was a teen I was an OPfag making fun of Naruto for their Mary SuesNow I've dropped that manga a decade ago and they turned the MC into the chosen one with the super special god power lol
Naruto was actually based off of Harry Potter originally but the editor told the author that shit was gay and to just make them ninjas
>>222357490and he made the MC a gay ninja who cries all the time and defeats his villains through the power of friendship
>>222357162>>end up as overworked wagies in the futureDoesn't nauto basically become a lord?
>>222358933Yeah
>>222357490Idk if that's true, but I remember as a kid having a problem with naruto because I wanted a show about ninjas to have more spy vs spy stuff, not just superheroes and supervillains who call themselves ninjas for some reason.
>>222358987It's more like a mayor or something like that
