ITS UP
>>222370541In this video, *Mike* and *Rich Evans* from *RedLetterMedia* discuss the current state and future of the *Star Trek* franchise while wearing screen-used *Klingon* costumes from *Star Trek: Discovery* (0:04-1:10). The hosts express their skepticism about recent *Star Trek* productions, noting that many series like *Discovery* have concluded and that *Strange New Worlds* is nearing its end (1:43-2:24).**Key discussion points:*** **Franchise Fatigue:** The hosts feel that *Star Trek* has been overproduced in recent years, leading to a decline in quality and a disconnection from the core appeal of the classic series (4:57-5:06, 16:27-16:53).* **The New Movie:** They discuss the news that *Jonathan Goldstein* and *John Francis Daly* (known for *Game Night* and *Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves*) are writing a new *Star Trek* movie set in the distant future with no legacy characters (5:15-6:29). *Mike* and *Rich* remain skeptical about the project's viability (6:31-7:35).* **Proposed Direction:** Both hosts agree that if they were in charge, they would pivot to a lower-budget approach, focusing on smaller-scale science fiction stories, rational characters solving problems, and a return to the episodic format that characterized *The Next Generation* (9:26-14:11).* **Production Strategy:** They argue for a "clean slate," advocating for tighter writing, fewer "universe-ending" stakes, and a shift away from the overly produced, multi-year gaps between short seasons (14:32-15:42, 20:41-21:20).**Coming up later in the video:**Following a chaotic lunch break where they struggle to eat in their bulky *Klingon* costumes (22:37-28:04), the hosts plan to further flesh out their vision for a "better" *Star Trek* series in a second part (23:14-23:32, 28:00-28:30).
>>222370541>they're doing AI thumbnails nowTheir laziness knows no bounds.
>>222370591Thank you for the recap of a video I had no intention to watch.
My friends are back
>>222370541I haven't watched a single Star Trek show or movie but I will never get tired of listening to Mike drone on about it
>>222370541been a while since I watched these retards, are they still retarded?
Mike should be careful what he says, because the new directors are probably listening
>>222370701yesthey never recovered from realizing they were indirectly responsible for ruining Star Wars, but now they just act like tired old boomersalso any time it gets brought up how Gen-Z actually likes the prequels, they get visibly butthurt
>>222370541>buying screen worn costumes from a show they profess to hatethis is where your patreon money is going
Lower Decks fucking ruined Star Trek forever and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>222370541Rich's $100,000 bond has rocked RLM and divided Mike and Jay. His upcoming court appearance for running over homeless people in Michigan is quickly approaching and is contributing to the inner conflict. Mike made the decision to take the bond payment out of Jay's income and is effectively garnishing his wages, yet Rich continues to get paid in full. This is the reason Jay hasn't been seen in any videos for months now, and may depart from the company altogether.
>>222370836How?
>>222370836Literally the least offensive shit of the nu-Treks
>>222370541>TOS video coming soonfinally!
>>222370541My friends are talking about Star Trek!
watched a bit they're right that star trek should be rational and not emotionalthe core audience is the same as it was with the original series and not the modern audiencedoesn't matter if you're a boomer or a zoomer nobody wants quirk chungus in their fucking star trek
>>222370830Fans keep meeting them at Vegas. So they're gambling a lot of it too
>Might bought a handful of actual costumes used on the clown show Star Trek Discovery and him and Rich put on two Klingon costumes to talk trek because they are both too fat to fit into the Starfleet jumpsuits they have.lmao
>>222370947>at vegas
>>222370848iykyk
>>222370541>that endingIt's genuinely devastating to see these two old men in such a state, that they can't even eat a meal without tremors causing them to spill food all over themselves.I remember watching their videos 10, 15 years ago, they just seemed "normal" then. The ravages of time come for us all...
>>222371082Awww, look at you trying to be people.
>>222370848>>222370878You can't go back from turning Trek into Rick and Morty, just you can't
>>222370541They make Star Trek costumes in 3XL???
>>222370541Who cares
>>222371175They actually show the Discovery episode those exact costumes appeared in (the extras wearing them weren't quite as fat)
Rich has become an explorer in the further regions of experience
the auto transcript censors "Sissy" is Sissy really a bad word?
old
Paramount spent more than two billion dollars and ten years making seven different Star Trek series (and a movie!) totaling over 300 episodesAnd nobody watched or remembers any of itIt's really difficult to contemplate
>>222370541I can't believe they bought screen-used Discovery costumes just to intentionally destroy them. That's petty and spiteful.
>mike actually liked lower deckshe's gone mad
>>222371287Money is fake and Paramount is an Israeli propaganda machine
>>222371309>watched only the cherrypicked episodes
>>222370836The TNG movies are what ruined Star Trek. I can’t imagine being a fan after those.
>>222371305Can we cancel them for this?
>>222371305This. They're destroying history. Sonequa Martin-Green was the first black person in Star Trek and they're dishonoring her.
The prequels suck bte
>>222370541the chuckleheads don't have real hope for the allegedly forthcoming reboot of the franchise. they're just eager to whine about what will be another star trek failure, whilst not ever identifying the core problem that has plagued it, and buried it, the leftist political religion aka the new wave of communism.
>>222371453This is why they're getting mogged in views by the Drinker. They refuse to name the Commie in the room.
>>222370848>>222370878It opened the floodgates for cartoon autists.Also having an actual "canon" parody within the universe is the point of no return for any franchise. It's over.
>>222371165>I turned myself into a log of shit, morty. I'm log of shit rick!it's all so tiresome
>>222370541Fucking tears streaming down my face man.I haven't laughed this hard in 10 years.
>>222371610Remember when Disney commissioned like 50 episodes of that Star Wars parody animated sitcom and then just scrapped it at last minute? Too bad Paramount wasn't nearly as smart.
>Uses a clip from ITPL instead of talking about more DS9 episodesfuck them
>>222370541being a genuine star trek fan in current year has to be abysmal
>>222371315I'm getting tired of>waves hands vaguely and says "jews"Becoming a substitute for all forms of language and communicationThat'd be a fun Star Trek episodeHumanity evolves to be like these guys, except every sentence is just>Shekelberg and Goldstein at Auschwitz
>>222371610>It opened the floodgates for cartoon autists.picrel exists
>>222372167Nobody watched that shit
>>222372183Nobody watched Lower Dicks
for the oldheads
Emmies Won>TAS: 1>LOW: 0
>>222370541>nigger grammar
>>222371139Good stick to memes maybe you won't out yourself that way
>>222372162>>Shekelberg and Goldstein at Auschwitzkek
>>222372162Oy vey!
>>222372199I know what that iiiiis!I claaaappeeed!
>>222370541>what are nextWhy are actual retards always the ones involved with this boomer trash?
>>222370541>what's next for a franchise that's been dead for almost a quarter-century
>>222371211
>>222370541What are next? What kind of ESL title is that?
RLM never mention Lower Decks.
>>222372566https://youtu.be/UcBH6MCAst8?si=VTdbM3aKJjUvJ6Oh&t=779timestamped
>>222370718He never said jar jar abrams should write the thing.In context, this was about how George Lucas just sat around and filmed everything like a soap opera, focusing on shot reverse shot with no real dynamism.
>>222370910I wish my IRL friends would talk about Star Trek with me like Mike and Rich do. It's so comfy. Did it once but the guy moved.
you wake up in Rich's rape dungeon, what do you do
>>222372167>filmation cartoon from 1973 that no one thinks about>calarts cartoon from 2020 with shippable bossy black woman and beta white boyTHOSE floodgates you dishonest retard
>>222371305For you
I gotta say I think Mike and Rich's idea of making a low budget Star Trek show with VFX done by some youtuber and forcing the scripts to carry it would be a great idea.
>>222372717They literally could do this themselves with an inspired idea show like the Orville, but they're talentless hack frauds who can't make anything worth a shit
These old guys should just open a museum at this point, they almost have more old props than actual movies.
>>222372731well yeah obviously we dont want them to make it
>>222372167TAS was always viewed as a non-canon oddity that existed to capitalize off Star Trek's popularity in reruns. LoDe now acts like both TAS and itself are just as much a part of Trek as the 5 live action truTreks.
>>222370541>What are nextWhy are these gen-x slobs using millennial quirk-chungus lingo?
>>222370541>What Are Nextis this an inside joke on their channel or did they turn indian?
>>222372766>>222372769they are just stupid boomers
>>222371713At least Detours would never have been canon even if it were released, it would have been in its own little bubble like the Holiday Special and all the LEGO Star Wars stuff. Meanwhile Paramount wants to pretend that a blatant farce like Lower Trannies is in the same universe as TOS and DS9, fuck off with that shit.
>>222372805https://youtu.be/SkAd4XWwNos?t=162i found the context. i don't get why it's funny enough to be a running gag but whatever, fuck it.
>>222372686
>>222372128Being anything in current year in the west is abysmal. Current yearers have destroyed everything in all fields.
>>222372756>existed to capitalize off Star Trek's popularity in reruns.They worked off unused scripts, and their goal was to complete the 5 year (season) mission.I don't know what it was seen as on release, but I liked it. Some of it was weaker and clearly kid oriented, but getting most of the cast back for voices was fun. And I'm sure it helped bolster the popularity that the reruns of tos were finding in syndication. Conventions popping up and all.
>>222370541good lord Rich looks haggardfar more than usual, i mean
>>222372128I just abuse my ability for compartmentalization and consider everything after ENT to be non canon. The JJ Abrams movies are easy to shove into "alternate reality" and the only way to save the franchise is to do the same thing with the last whatever decade+ of TV shows.Or just say they're all the mad ramblings of a black science fiction writer in the 1960s.
>>222372868it might be time to update this
>>222372930now do mike
>>222370836I would watch the entirety of lower decks (again) before I sit through a single episode of discovery, academy, Picard, or strange new worlds. It’s not the 90s golden age but it’s as close as we are ever going to get.
>>222372930
Yeah, these two fat boomers are going to save the franchise with their videos, just like they did Star Wars LMAO
>>222372835I don't need a video to explain how fucking retarded these people are
I gotta say, building miniatures and having minimalistic shots of space travel and simple TNG era space fights (warning shot, not constant pew pew pew) DOES seem a lot cheaper and if the show is character/plot/story driven and not action driven, it seems fair to assume that actually going back to the roots of Trek and do a 24th century not-Enterprise ship flying the other side of the Alpha Quadrant and doing their own thing, should work. It wouldn't cost 1mil per episode. It can be extremely budget friendly... So WHAT the fuck is stopping them (Paramount) from making it?
>>222372987They can't money launder with low budget crap
>>222372652Except when JJ did write it Mike said "It's everything I ever wanted it to be and more."
>>222372987>if the show is character/plot/story driven and not action driventhis is always the way to go but you need real talent to pull it off.
>>222372948>a retarded bacon narwhal spork cartoon is as good as it's ever going to getI wish i could be a no standards cuck
>>222372167>>222372762This. Using TAS as a gotcha is like using the Spock Helmet as an example of what Star Trek fans like.
>>222373013I always hear this money laundering stuff and yeah, it wouldn't surprise me... But honestly, if it was happening... Where the fuck is the money going to? I'm willing to do journalistic and autistic research here, if you or anyone can provide me with a real "money laundering" movie/tv show scheme, I will follow the money.
>>222370836Yeah, they were on a real hot streak before Lower Decks came along and shat it all up
>>222373094lezzie dykes even had the toy spock helmet cameo so they could go HAHA IT'S THAT MEME THING LOOOOOOL
>>222373095I was half joking. The more depressing reality is that they're not interested in "quality storytelling", they're interesting in glossing up their slop for demoralization purposes. Your reaction, which is understandable, is precisely the reaction they want to achieve. Why? They're shitheads, that's why.
>>222372661>i can smell your cunt
>>222370910>Jessi disappears from RLM>shows up randomly 15 years later in the audience of WWE I wonder where she will show up in the next 15 years?
>>222373292>I wonder where she will show up in the next 15 years?
>>222373142The show just reeks of>Look, I skimmed Memory Alpha, that makes me a real fan, right? Tuvix! Spock helmet! O'Brien standing in the transporter pad!
>>222373095>if you or anyone can provide me with a real "money laundering" movie/tv show scheme, I will follow the money.It's the same for movies and TV as for any other business.>criminal invests dirty money in movie>movie hires company owned by criminal>company does way less quality/quantity of work than the money would suggest>money clean
>>222373382I miss her bros
>>222370541>Complain about bad humor and immature writing in NuTrek>Spend 1/3 of the video on an unfunny food fight skit
those last few minutes are somebody's fetish
>>222372987>So WHAT the fuck is stopping them (Paramount) from making it?They're desperate for young fans to infuse new blood into the franchise. And they also think young people are all ADHD and need constant visual stimulation or they won't watch. I've said it countless times. Focus on the audience you have. Even if that audience is middle-aged white dudes from the midwest.
>>222371723I bet they are keeping the Farscape review for when they start loosing too many patreon bucks
>>222372162Mengele, his scalpel sharp.
>>222373393Sad thing is a lot of older fans do love it, the last few conventions I've been to were mostly that shit I guess when you lower your standards enough, anything can seem good
>>222373567Young women and lgbt specifically. If you wanted to draw in an audience of teenage boys or young men these are not the type of shows you'd be making.
>first they ruined Star Wars and now they’re trying to ruin Star TrekKill these fat fucks for the good of humanity
>>222373688they can't ruin it any more than kurtzman already has
>>222370599that's not an ai thumbnail though
>>222371218yes, it denigrates our femboy brothers
Nigger
>>222370910Why has Mike pretended to not know anything about WWE before but has been spotted at WWE events at least two times? Is he more embarrassed by wrestling than ghosts?
>>222373095its just a meme anon, most of the cost is in things like CGI, actor and executive pay. The CGI budget for these shows is extremely large since there's basically CGI in every scene. With shows like TNG most of the CGI is used very sparingly. In a modern production, even if you make the show look basically the same someone would go over every frame and do things like alter the face of stunt men, remove all the black paper on shiny surfaces to hide reflections and so on with CGI and it would cost a fortune.
>>222373669Yeah I wish we could get another DS9 style "Geopolitics and diplomacy in space" show but the audience would be way skewed toward white men. I bet even with all the women and rainbow pandering, NuTrek's audience still skewed heavily male. All the quirk chungus Tumblrinas had too many other shows fighting for their attention.
>>222372162you could have just said ellison, goldsman and kurtzman
Here is what these old niggas don't understand. TNG/DS9/VOY were made the way they were because that was the style of television at the time. It was not a deliberate choice. They didn't sit around and think "oh we need to make sure we have 26 episodes and a low budget and focus on story and 4x3 aspect ratio." Nutrek is the same way. They're simply making a show in the style of 2020s television.
>>222373659I'd be fine with people lapping it up if it stayed in its lane and didn't pretend it was anything more than a silly non-canon cartoon. It's the fact that you hear people say that it and/or PIC S3 are the true successors to TNG that's so infuriating.
>>222371218Today, we're here to discuss Brian De Palma's classic "Carrie", starring [ ___ ] Spacek.
>>222370541It just dawned on me that neither of em refer to the "rumors", the buzz, about an Enterprise continuation, with the prospect of Archer as President of Earth, and the pre-TOS Earth-Romulan war. For whatever reason these two aren't into that idea. I'm telling you these guys don't want good stuff anymore. They are thoroughly goybeamed out the ass.
>>222373804But it sucks.
Do we know how much these costumes cost? They spent all that money to do a physical gag about trying to eat while in these costumes that are way too small for them?
>>222373804Maybe they should've focused more on making something good instead of doing what everyone else was doing.
the "what are next" meme is funny and i'm tired of pretending it's not
>>222373030Everyone loved TFA when it came out. It took some time for good sense to prevail.
>>222370541How will red letter media ever recover from trigger MIGGERs on kiwi farms?
>>222370541Die for Israel goys!
>>222373957It sounds like you missed the point of the gag, anon. They bought the costumes to pour food and Coke on them.
>>222374053>>222374035>1488 >demand people to die for Israel What?
>>222374035>>222374053Nobody cares about that goyslop site. Didn't they shut down?
>>222374035>>222374053go back there
>>222373886I just don't see the fuss over picard s3I thought it was just as bad as the first two were 7 of 9 is still a dyke, characters still talk like unserious millennials, the lights are still turned off, they still drag the plot out until the finale, and Picard's son is a Gary Stu. They still have that obnoxious drug addict black woman.But even anons here convinced themselves it was the best thing since All Good Things - that or "well it's the best you're gonna get so just deal with it"
>>222373785>I bet even with all the women and rainbow pandering, NuTrek's audience still skewed heavily male.Absolutely. They chased away most guys at this point but whatever audience still remains skews heavily male. Using a franchise like Star Trek to lure in women is utterly retarded. Completely unserious and silly nonsense. How whoever persons brought this up and weren't immediately fired and laughed out of the room is beyond me.
>>222373785>All the quirk chungus Tumblrinas had too many other shows fighting for their attention.They don't actually watch the shows or play the games they complain about. They just want to colonize your hobbies. 1348 Ex Voto got shilled like crazy but only ~11k–14k bought the game
>>222372859I own the VHS tapes of it, too.I liked it thoroughly.
>>222374053its true though, Iran orchestrated that attack on US/French troops in Lebanon.
>>222374084I'm not saying that Mickey Spock isn't a terrible character but I find it interesting that while everyone rails her for being a Mary Sue (she is), they let Jack Crusher-Picard slide because he's a good looking white dude.>the actual son of Jean-Luc>is good at everything >super genius>has magical Borg powers>all the ladies swoon over him
>>222374170You mean the weapons and intelligence Ronald Reagan and Israel gave Iran in the first place?
>>222374278it was a car bomb, just some explosives stuffed in a truck. not exactly advanced weaponry
>>222374070I know the shows the costumes are from are trash, but isn't it kinda rude to the people who designed and sewed the costumes?
>>222374278>>222374307Yes. Because Israel selling locations of US servicemen has nothing to do with car bombs.
>>222374221Jack Crusher is based because Beverly always deserved to have a son
Ha Ha! Rich Evans looks like a cockroach! D-do you get it? It's so funny! Lmao! That's Rich!
this video was pointless and not funny and i had to stop it early
>>222374550
it's over for RLM. They're way past their glory days, just sell the business to private equity and be done with it.
>>222374380it was a base in the middle of a city, how exactly would that be a secret
>>222372199
>Shill two bad movies in a row>Squeeze out this irrelevant turd of a video that's basically them saying the same shit they've said in the past, except a WHACKY SLOP EATING XD skit slapped onto it Time to retire, you old frauds
these guys could be making movies together but instead they just make this dogshit. i can only assume that they really hate each other and do it out of necessity at this point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn4fW0EInqwthis was funny, succinct and had effort put into it, what happened
>>222374865This.When an yt review features this kind of shit, it's a sign. The writing is on the wall, the end is near. it's not a boomer joke. They don't care anymore, they don't want to be there and they want you to know it. They spit in your face.Remember one of the last movie review videos recorded by Spoony around 2018? He's been drinking some kind of soda for the while video, making slurping sounds and burping.
>>222370541They were joking when they said those were screen used props, r-right?
The food skit at the end was Smosh tier humor except these hacks are in their 50s. Just stick to making BOTW and REviews, because this is just embarrassing. The last time they bought movie props they at least made an entertaining video about it, now they said nothing of substance and Rich looks like he is dying.
>>222374637The final step is the nerd crew becoming reality
>>222375128Yeah.
>>222375140>and Rich looks like he is dying.
>>222370541Theres no simple 5poa figure of the lower decks black girl still? Thats lame
Why don't they make episodic cheap TV shows anymore? I was just thinking about how we used to get 20+ episodes a year and now you wait five years for 6 to 8 mediocre episodes. Most shows on streaming fail so there's no reason not to try a cheaper method to make shows. Binge culture also ruined TV killing weekly discussion and speculation. It's like they still want it between seasons but at that point no one cares to talk about the show when it'll be gone for so long. Making a cheap quality show that runs weekly seems like it'll be a slam dunk but no studio has attempted to make that yet
>>222371287>It's really difficult to contemplateNow crunch the numbers for all the Star Wars nobody watched.
>>222372162>The Merchant, his hands rubbing together
Just make a show years after Voyager returns. They have a book series they can follow where there is a conspiracy about the tech Voyager brought back and all the groups trying to steal it. Make like a trek detective show that starts off with this then following seasons can do their own thing
>>222373462>Spend 1/3 of the video on an unfunny food fight skitit was less than a quarter you disingenuous cunt
>>222371344They just committed a hate crime live on YouTube. I’m literally shaking rn fr.
>>222374035>>222374053Got buckbroken so hard by kikes and broken promises he now shills for them.
>>222375799The whole streaming industry runs on Underpants Gnome logic. Nobody knows how any of this shit is supposed to money. Netflix is the only streamer that’s profitable only because they’ve been in the game the longest. And they excel at making content just watchable enough to leave the TV on in the background. The thing is we’re never going back to 20 episode seasons because the ship has sailed.
>>222376053It's too late for that.Right now the visual style of the franchise is too yassified for them to roll it back.Everything needs to be made out of glass, high gloss plastic and with chinese mall-like light fixtures.And the cast needs to be diverse with literal retards, fat and handicapped people.
>>222371344Black female, sure, but whats with this DS9 erasure its the best Trek show.
>>222374071Annoying libtards hate Israel now therefore Israel good.
picture this progressive picture. it's a ship full of fat black lesbians and their powers of fat, gay and melanin save countless worlds.
Imagine if they gave a concept like Star Fleet Academy to a semi-successful Harry Potter fanfiction writer instead of whatever creatures they had in charge, would have made billions easily.
>>222372439>>222372661i always thought Rich's laugh was fake or at least played up but i sounded exactly like him when he showed up in this
>>222376635Some people have weird laughs, man. At least he doesn't do the snorting thing
>>222370541Mike Stoklasa ruined Star Wars
>>222371309He also loves modern Simpsons
>>222374221If by "everyone" you mean "a handful of deranged faggoids who actually think PICUNT S3 was good" then yeah sure. Back in Realityland, Twinky McGee was being relentlessly mocked and derided here for pretty much the entire run, and even loads of normie idpol fags who were trying to pretend PICUNT was good because of Seven-of-Dyke were calling him boring and a plot device.Perhaps the reason nobody's calling Jack a Marty Stu is simply that nobody gives enough of a fuck about him to think about it?
>>222370541They talk like this about Star Trek, but defended the Acolyte and Sequel Trilogy against Star Wars fans?
>>222376768>morons who can't think for themselves believing everything is because a couple of fat fucks making a series of shit post youtube videos
>>222377126>but defended the Acolyte and Sequel Trilogy against Star Wars fans?they never did this
>>222377171Yes, you did.
>>222376768i dont think RLM has that much influence
>>222377195no they didn't
>>222377207Yes, we did.
>>222377171>we can't nitpick Acolyte to death like we did with the prequels because there are starving kids in Africa
>>222377281ironic that you're nitpicking rn
>>222373430Same
>>222377418how did you know that he's a registered nurse
>>222375799Put simply, laziness. I'm not even joking/being an edgy boi. Writers enjoy being able to spend years jerking each other off about how clever they are rather than having to actually *be* clever enough to churn out loads of scripts that make good use of a limited budget to tell enough engaging stories to fill a whole season of TV every year. Showrunners and directors love working with a "prestige television" format that lets them pretend they're going to be breaking into movies aaaany day now...any day. Actors also prefer the "prestige" format since it both allows movie stars with an ailing career to pretend they haven't fallen so far and to-the-marrow television actors pretend they're on the way to real stardom, and also allows all of them to do less work for the same money - the jobbing TV actors with a realistic appraisal of their own prospects can do 2 or 3 gigs a year in the same time they used to do one and get very nearly 2-3 times as much money as well, while the poncy movie actors can slum it on streaming to get some money in and still have plenty of time to do self-indulgent indie flicks or runs on stage shows. The money men love it because streaming as a business doesn't actually work like television, the "audience" are investors and banks and private equity firms, the performance isn't the shows but continuing to bamboozle the aforementioned for long enough to retire or golden parachute out to another sector, or for the company to get bought out/merge with another so they can start the whole performance over again.Episodic television, meanwhile, is only good for one group - audiences - who might as well not even exist in a world where an autoplaying 20 second preview clip on the frontpage of Amazon counts as a "view" for their metrics and Paramount-CBS can use shills and bots to astroturf a perception of social media buzz for a turd like Star Trek Academy that stank so bad even they couldn't justify renewing it.
>>222370541Mike and Rich are virgins, right?And Jay is a jew?
>>222377637https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2SEd2eivy4
>>222373688Will gen alpha make threads in 10 years about how NuTrek was actually good and RLM poisoned the internet into thinking it was bad?kek
>>222373804Yes, you're correct. However, we've tried it this other way and it's fucking terrible, so the 26 episode format seems like a sure winner.Sometimes when you evolve and something isn't working, you correct back to the last thing that worked.It's only logical, anon.
>>222370678this gif looks like the Mussolini series, he even looks like him
>>222377766No. I get the impression the majority of NuTrek's extremely small fanbase and viewership is male and very very old, like actual boomers (60-70+) are the only ones weirdly defensive about it woke femoid nuTrek
>>222371610Cartoon autists? On 4chan? Oh god now the site is ruined forever!
>>222377953These are all the worst people from /co/ though, NTA but he has a point.Lower Decks fans are like Rick and Morty fans meets Stephen Universe fans.
>>222372566>hydrogen samples.Heh. That's funny.
>>222370836This is the correct take.
>>222373669>Young women and lgbt specifically.Those were already big fans of TOS, with the boys coming in for TNG.They already had a formula they knew would work. There was no reason to reinvent everything so drastically if younger fans was the goal.
>>222377766Gen Alpha aren’t watching narrative driven television. They watch AI YouTube videos where Rumi gets pregnant by Tung Tung Sahur and gives birth to Baby Yoda.
>>222372868eat your veggies and exercise!
I love Mike so much its unreal.
Rich's homeless man transformation is nearly complete
>>222377996I don't see it. The worst I've seen LD fans get is play fuck-marry-kill with the cast's female characters.Rick and Morty fans were in another plane of existence of awful, especially in the show's heyday.
>>222378297if you dont see it, you are not interacting with star trek fans regularly
>>222378105Just don't with the "women were always huge fans, the original fans even" shtick that always gets trotted out to justify turning every male franchise into a franchise for "everyone" but somehow created solely to feminist and female sensibilities. Everyone is sick and tired of it
>>222378263>>222372886
>>222370541>Bitch about starving children in Africa>Have a skit wasting food
>>222378347I thought the studio was surprised that TOS was so popular with women? It certainly wasn't originally made with them in mind.>>222378327Do Trek fans still exist outside of message boards?
>>222370541>"A well written well thought out strar trek would fail because the modern audience(tm) wouldn't like it"Rich is suck a goylem it's not even funny
>pays thousands of dollars to buy props used in a show they hate just so they can trash them
>>222378659they talk themselves out of it like 10 minutes later and realize it's the only way to gobut that was also my first reaction
>>222378503retard alert
>>222378673>thousands of dollarskek this is from the Discovery set sale, you could get worn costumes for less than 100 USDthey were giving that shit away, look it upliterally nobody fucking wanted nutrek crap
>>222378659It doesnt even need to be written well. It just needs likable characters and have fun plots, thats what carried ds9. Not the stupid space nigger Jesus main plot.
>>222378673You will make more money buying NuTrek costumes and destroying them on camera than Paramount did from NuTrek. That's why they copystrike so many videos.
>>222378528I've grown to hate Hollywood with a passion but I can still acknowledge just how much they've bend over backwards the past 10 years especially, with insane amounts of money, major creative changes and efforts before and behind the camera all to accommodate women. The truth is Star Trek should absolutely be popping off with women and girls right now. They should have been expanding with theatrical Star Trek movies for women at this point even. And the renewal of Kurtzman's contract shouldn't even be a question but a foregone conclusion due to the sheer success with the female audience. Why isn't any of this a reality?
>>222379174Theyre not making the kind of shows with star trek that women even like. Which is shows like orange is the new black, house, greys anatomy, weeds. If they made an intense medical drama woth star trek that actually could be kind of interesting if they find an excuse to roll back their cure all guns.
>>222379174I'd guess the people in charge couldn't understand what it was about TOS that women liked? Like they only grasped the surface level of 'oh women like Spock, so let's have Spock date a bunch of women'?
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Reminder (and this went on for 4 years)
>>222379174Why would they watch a melodrama with a bunch of weird people in gay jumpsuits when you could watch a melodrama that doesn't have any of that and is about doctors or cops or whatever.
>>222370541The new movie is going to be the same quirky chungus joss whedon writing that the dnd movie was. Star Trek is beyond saving.
>>222379286If i were David Ellison i would give you that Star Trek show so we can all, again, witness the predictable end result. But it's not going to shut you up afterwards is it? You're just going to keep moving the goalposts.
>>222378673>>222378701>>222378835I had to register a burner account to view the auction (fuck those guys)But yeah a lot of the screen worn costumes look like they went for minimum reserve, somebody scooped all this shit up for $150 eachEverything did get at least 1 bid, so there must have been a speculator
>>222378297Lezzie Dykes made this board uninhabitable for four years. Also other social media couldn't shut the fuck up about it either.
>>222379572What went wrong?When they had the big Classic Trek auction in 2006-2007 this shit was going for thousands
>>222379572And at the top end, not a single item exceeded $10,000There's also an accompanying article predicting the Breen outfit would fetch $6,000 to $12,000, so presumably everything undersold
>>222379625the future uniforms on STD were so poorly tailored it hurts and I'm not even gay.they were baggy as hell and looked like potato sacks on the actorsit's the same in that shitty academy showthe fuck is going on with jewywood
>>222379655Just a general competency crisis
>a 2024 auction saw>James T. Kirk's phaser sell for $910,000>James T. Kirk's communicator sell for $780,000>James T. Kirk's tunic and trousers sell for $455,000>Nyoto Uhara's tunic sell for $114,300
>>222371249I look like this and I talk like this about Star Trek.
>>222379431>>222379585Is this because of the haircut? Or was it different when it was Seven of Nine?
>>222379702also>the screen-used Deep Space 9 model sold for $254,000>Katherine Janeway's chair sold for $43,000>Commander Riker's white jacket from Nemesis sold for $22,000>Tribbles created for the DS9 episode "Trials and Tribble-ations" sold for $1300 each; ones from TOS are worth ten times as much
>buying costumes when kids in Africa are starvingIt's funny how Mike's Star Wars cope continues to just make a complete mockery of these faggots.
>>222379572>>222379625>>222379702>>222379788Nutrek just isn't culturally relevant.
>>222379702>>222379788Yeah, those things are actually valuable. Because people actually want to own those.
>>222370691Same. >>222370701Mo
>>222372661rape him
>>222379510Studio heads need to learn that it isn't 2012 anymore and this type of movie is beyond its expiration date. People want sincerity and pathos. Enough with the self-aware quipping and zero stakes.
>>222379984That's the truth. It's made to be consumed and forgotten.It costs millions to make, but didn't sell any merch.No t-shirts, books, comics, videogames, boardgames, DVDs, collectors sets, figurines, nada. Oh sure those items exist, but none of the fans of nu-trek that I personally know actually spent any money on it. Even now you're more likely to see someone wearing a classic Trek t-shirt than a nu-trek one.
>>222380042>rape him
>>222371211>The box. You opened it. We came.
>>222372987>So WHAT the fuck is stopping them (Paramount) from making it?It used to be demographics, because they need strong 18-35 numbers to get juicy ad money. I feel like this is still a core part of their considerations even if it makes little to no sense when everything they have is on streaming. Maybe the boomer CEOs dream about licensing the IP out and somehow getting mass viewerships on standard TV? (That itself is basically dead). The only real metric for streaming is watch hours and new subs. They try to capture some "buzz" metric as well (how much impact the shows have online) but the metrics for that is just guessing (given the sea of bot traffic identifying what's actually being talked about and where is hard).Watch hours they at least can capture good stats on for themselves. Trouble there is there's no objective reporting, just numbers (made up or not) companies want to brag about. So how do you compare successes outside your own kiddy pool? You don't. New subs you can kinda sorta track if they jump on to watch a new season of something, then you have to decide if they stay on as punters or are just in it to binge a show a month and ditch.All of which is to say, I don't think they're even interested in the prospect of a low budget sci fi show with a small but regular viewership of opinionated old farts. Even saying that out loud it sounds like something that should be a fan funded Youtube project or something.
>>222379510Yeah that movie has an incredibly high chance of bombing. I agree with Rich in that you'd really need someone like Andy Weir but even there you probably need to tell him to tone down the humor
>>222379788>>Katherine Janeway's chair sold for $43,000Will it still waft of her farts? This is critical for my purchase offer.
>>222380424Janeway canonically does not fart.
>>222370910Holy shit...I errored that the infamous web was a fluke and it was a guy that looked like Mike. But, no, it really is Mike.
One more for the rabbit hole since I registered for this shitDid Mike say in the DS9 helm video how much he paid for it?Because this is how much he paid
>>222380575$5,000 for this childish garbage when they could have sponsored a starving African child instead. Funny how they were happy to lecture others but unable to follow through themselves. Hack frauds indeed.
>>222379991Honestly, would love to see an Adam and RLM crossover. He gets an episode going over their props then we get BOTW with Adam.
>>222380575A steal
>>222370541why do they love filming these "discussion" videos where they say absolutely nothing
>>222380575>>222380618Kid me would have gone nuts over having an actual Star Trek console.
why can't they actually just make another 90's ST show though?Make it look exactly the same. Maybe even use the same cameras.
>>222370541george lucas should buy the rights to star trek and make the series great again
>>222371309Of course he does they're friends with the fag who was in it.
>>222370541Best /)tv) approved internet cels. Hasan Picker is a close second incel!!
>>222379431>>222379585And then they just disappeared seemingly overnight
My Sony PlayStation Five automatic put on Mike and Rich Evan channel the guy with the laugh. Internet cells FTW!!
>>222370541nutrek treats starfleet like the theyre a wholesome chungus rebel alliance instead of the 19th century british royal navy in spacenutrek tries to be guardians of the galaxy instead of master and commander or hornblower in spaceyoull never have good star trek again until you hire people who understand that
I swear Star Trek is a terrible sci fi series that just preaches platitudes at the audience and does the bias mental work for the viewer, real mid-wit shit.Every time i try to watch it it is like having some philosemetic, balding, fat, man who buys dude wipes, black rifle coffee buying, beard product using, toy collecting man child talking in my ear telling me how good diversity is.Sg1 was better.
>>222380704This videos discussion was all in service of showcasing their new costumes and their subsequent destruction anonsan
>>222379174literally the only reason women would ever be into Star Trek is if they had attractive male leads.Serving aboard a space vessel isn't a female fantasy. They don't give a shit about that kind of thing. I think it low-key causes them a sense of anxiety. The last place a woman wants to be is way out in some desolate location, away from civilization. That's why they love Harry Potter. It's set in a school.
>>222381032Who is ur fav nigga
>>222381091Or add tons of hung black guys like The Wire. The Wire is almost bbc overload but true cuck kings prevail.
I'm make another Sweeny Todd )India /India /Indis
>>222381091In fact my mother used to like TNG specifically for Picard and Riker, and she actively disliked Captain Janeway.
Why do these thread always big black bbc cock?
look how giddy these 50 year old men are over throwing food at each other
>>222380936By far the worst paramount marketers
>>222380721but not 5K nuts, it's the idea where AVGN wins the nintend world championship cart from the punk, and sets it on his shelf and forgets about it
>>222374507>roach evans
>>222381291Women find Patrick Stewart attractive?
>>222370910Triple H is the Alex Kurtzman of wrestling.
>>222382885He has a certain sex appeal.
>>222382955I don't even like HHH and this is still too mean
>>222383510In all honesty, Kurtzman is probably a nice person to be around. The same can't be said about someone like Haitch who has set the industry of wrestling back by decades.
Yippee! My imaginary friend Jack Quaid was mentioned!
>>222370541WHAT AR NEX???
>>222382885They're in their 40s and 50s
>>222370541SAAR IT FINNA BE UP
>>222370718Yeah. I do notice he is being careful about that kind of recommendation.This whole episode is "What would you do Rich?"
>>222376239Anon. The leftists have always known Israel was shit. Some progressive liberals came around to it. Later during the genocide more started to condemn them. The annoying ones are the liberal zionists and always have been.
>>222384032>always
>>222384113I chose my words carefully. This chart says it plain enough. They asked only registered Democrats who like Israel. Not leftists.
>>222384032They only care when Israel is in the news for killing Arabs. They love to throw around the word antisemite when it's convenient. A shit ton of pro-Israeli jews are leftist
>>222384032It wasn't like this until Vietnam and the Six-Day War. The Democrats were indeed pro-Israel with guys like LBJ being total cuck sellouts. After Vietnam and SDW, that's when you had Jewish Democrats who had their minds broken as a result of the Democrats' foreign policy; this is the catalyst for the Neoconservative movement that led America into the arms of Israel as the century progressed, culminating in Saddam getting toppled and the ME falling apart overnight.
>>222384177>>222384176Read above >>222384158And the majority of American Jews are against Zionism. The Wealthiest (and most amoral) are pro-Israel. But then there are the zionist Christians.Leftists are socialists, communist and anarchists. They're counted in that chart as "independents" if they're counted at all.
>>222383920Is brontosaurus holding gun or is gun pointed at brontosaurus? Or is an apatosaurus? Also why? What are you trying to say?
OMG, she cheated oh her boyfriend twice in one day?!
>>222384361I think it's a reference to the Italian film The Conformist
>>222384361when jpw came out someone made the meme of the dino committing suicide and they blended the peaky blinders holding a gun to his head meme
>>222384544She flirted and cheated on her husband on vacation with a stranger guy, but she is so beautiful OMG1
>>222373095>Where the fuck is the money going to?Israel
>>222370541Mike Stoklasa was the one who shilled JJ Abrams Star TrekZHe’s the one responsible for the current state of Star Trek.He’s also the one who demanded Star Trek be more gay.
>>222384860>He’s also the one who demanded Star Trek be more gay.sadly its not gay enoughwhat the franchise desperately needs is a long running villain plotline about gay aliens who try to infect everyone with space aids
I don't know how Mike made it to episode ten of Lower Decks.
