Righteous ruler editionPrevious >>222376986
no peake no watch
>>222379594>3 failed usurpersOh n-ACK!
TAOOBA
>>222379614>Oh n-ACK!Rhaenyra's last words.
Sex with our King Daeron.
Does anyone find it concerning how easily the general audience forgave Aegon for the rape because he’s really cool and had an aura scene? I mean what’s the implication here, it’s ok to be a peice of shit if you’re likable and charismatic?
Reminder when this show ends you will never have to hear Greentrannies chirping ever again. They will cope by moving on to Dunc and act like their humiliating defeat never happened. Until they inevitably support Blackfyres since they are losers by nature only to get BTFO'd again.
>>222379641No one remember what happened 2 seasons ago brochacho.
>>222379641He never raped anyone though
Its impossible to wrap up the series in 1 hour from this point if thats what they intend to do.
>>222379639Daeron will relinquish his claim the second he learns Aegon is still alive.
They were so happy together....
>>222379614>
I support the Blacks because I'm a contrarian and I just like to argue against the general consensus.
>>222379641Maidservants can refuse the king you know. They allowed him to have his way because they preferred their their status in the Red Keep.
>>222379679Did you just stutter
>>222379641It's been almost a decade since that episode. Let it go
>>222379679So you are saying Cole had consensual sex with Rhaenyra?
>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
>>222379641No one even cares that they sawed off a kids head
HELAENA THE CUTE
>>222379645So true xister!!!
>>222379734THE VERY CUTE
>>222379641Hes the underdog. And his scene on the Throne helping the small folk gave him a boost as well. Another thing that might be affecting this is Rhaenyra having a snooze fest of a story.
>>222379700Servant girl complained about Aegon and Alicent gave her money.If Criston told Viserys what happened, he would spin it to be Criston's fault and sent him to the Wall to protect her reputation.
>>222377466>-Aegon and Aemond sincerely reconcile.>-Aemond kneels and tells Aegon he is the rightful king.>-He swears to Aegon that his reign will not include Daemons existence for much longer.>-He returns blackfyre to Aegon, Aegon argues that Aemond should keep it but Aemond insists.sources telling me he bangs Alys because he saw a vision of his dark-haired descendent saving the world. Total Green victory, as GRRM has foreshadowed since book 1
>>222379645After house of the dragons, the greens can look at all the main stark characters from game of thrones and say “wow these are aemonds descendants, that’s so cool, the greens legacy is the heart of the series”
is we getting any rhaenicent... sisters?
>>222379833>greens get a cripple and a girl boss>Blacks get Jon fucking Snow and the sexy mad queen Yep still winning
>>222379734>>222379764I don't want to see her go bros.....
>>222379764THE CUTEST
>>222379843nyo
These huge piles of corpses in battle of the bastards make no sense
>>222379843If the leaks are true and Alicent is in Tumbleton while Helaena kill herself in King's Landing i don't think so.I think this will be the last straw for them, especially with how Rhaenyra sent her to kill Aemond and that was the last they talk.
>>222379866>blacks get [zombie] and [corpse]
>>222379594Why do people like Stannis?
Everyone said Otto was the last straw
>>222379901How so? It's not like the corpse can despawn in the middle of the battle.
>>222379866>Blacks get Jon fucking Snow and the sexy mad queen iDunWanet and khaleesi are all yours my black friend, enjoy
>>222379976Because he's consistently right about everything.
>>222379976He gives hope to the socially stunted autists here
HOLY FUCKING AURA
rhaenyra would be happy if she got married to me, i'd use my wit and oratory skill to reconciliate her and alicent and we'd retire in a pentos chateau while our son rules the realm (married to helaena, obviously)
>>222379995Rather them than two ugly inbred looking bongs.
>>222379976
>>222379976if you like Ned, you have to like Stannis. He died for his claim as the RIGHTFUL king
>>222379976The throne is his by right
>>222380059This. More Prophecy babies soon (never dammit)
>>222379734>>222379764>>222379870>>222379869Helaena bros...it's over...>>222379981>Everyone saidEveryone is retard and don't pay attention to the show, the only person Alicent ever loved unconditionally is Helaena, form the beginning, even in the scene where she's confronting Aegon after he rapes Dyana, she slaps him and say he's not her son Helaena enters the room asking where Dyana is because she was supposed to dress the children Alicent hugs her, that pattern is there since the beginning with the younger Helaena actress.If someone is gonna the last straw for Alicent is only Helaena.>OttoMan people are really retard kek.
Aegon has a better more succulent ass than any half pajeeta aneurysm brained bitch and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>222380059Dany boy the pipes the pipes are calling
>>222379706The Dornish are supposed to be Mayan now?
>>222379976He is principled, and an underdog, and his brothers and foes suck ass
>>222379676Supporting the Blacks is the normie opinion though. The show is unironically on Rhaenyra's side and paints her as the chosen one Aegon is only growing support very recently because Rhaenyra is such a boring doormat who hasn't done anything for four years
>>222379734Derpy autist.
>>222380059She got fucked in the ass by Daario btw.
>>222379869>>222380130I'm so ready for her to kill herself for no reason - can't have Maelor die at Bitter bridge because that might make Rhaenyra look bad!
>>222380165I don't care or know anything about normies. I am a 4channer only. I dont go on Twitter or reddit so the only opinions I see are the masses here supporting them so my natural instinct is to be the dissenter.
>>222380059Indian women are so cute
>>222380212I could pork my aunt if she looked like this.>>222380189Doesn't she already look bad.
>>222380059>Daenerys is slender of frame, with small breasts. She is said to resemble Queen Naerys Targaryenshe's built like a twig, there's a reason pedos like Jorah are obsessed with her
>>222379976 >More and more men were pouring from the trees, not only knights now but freeriders and mounted bowmen and men-at-arms in jacks and kettle helms, dozens of men, hundreds of men. A blaze of banners flew above them. The wind was whipping them too wildly for Jon to see the sigils, but he glimpsed a seahorse, a field of birds, a ring of flowers. And yellow, so much yellow, yellow banners with a red device, whose arms were those?>East and north and northeast, he saw bands of wildlings trying to stand and fight, but the attackers rode right over them. The free folk still had the numbers, but the attackers had steel armor and heavy horses. In the thickest part of the fray, Jon saw Mance standing tall in his stirrups. His red-and-black cloak and raven-winged helm made him easy to pick out. He had his sword raised and men were rallying to him when a wedge of knights smashed into them with lance and sword and longaxe. Mance's mare went up on her hind legs, kicking, and a spear took her through the breast. Then the steel tide washed over him.>It's done, Jon thought, they're breaking. The wildlings were running, throwing down their weapons, Hornfoot men and cave dwellers and Thenns in bronze scales, they were running. Mance was gone, someone was waving Harma's head on a pole, Tormund's lines had broken. The fires were leaping from tent to tent and some of the tall pines were going up as well. And through the smoke another wedge of armored riders came, on barded horses. Floating above them were the largest banners yet, royal standards as big as sheets; a yellow one with long pointed tongues that showed a flaming heart, and another like a sheet of beaten gold, with a black stag prancing and rippling in the wind.>Robert, Jon thought for one mad moment, remembering poor Owen but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"
>>222380183>married to serial rapist Drogo>fuck buddies with a degenerate sellswordlooking forward to Dany dying from an STD, no way she hasn't caught something. Maybe her going mad is explained by syphilis
>>222380282She'll grow into a pawg....you'll see....
>>222380328>And through the smoke another wedge of armored riders came, on barded horses. Floating above them were the largest banners yet, royal standards as big as sheets; a yellow one with long pointed tongues that showed a flaming heart, and another like a sheet of beaten gold, with a black stag prancing and rippling in the wind.>>Robert, Jon thought for one mad moment, remembering poor Owen but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"so where does the meme that stannis can't inspire loyalty come from?
>>222380378The books.
>>222380366Erm this is wrong pal. Jon is supposed to make Sansa and Dany his two wives.
>>222380366World without Bloodraven...
>>222380366Kino. If GRRM wasnt such a bitter old hack he would have made a wholesome little happy ending like this.
>>222380378Books >>222380399 written by (((maesters))).But in the actual story it's only women and gays that say he can't inspire loyalty.
>>222379976>underdog>no nonsense>not a coward>principled (to a fault)>tough as nailsThis already makes for a character people usually like to read about, but in Stannis' case his opponents are>young kid who's honourable, but also dumb (and dead)>gay guy who thinks being charming makes for a great king>contender for the worst father award>runner-up for the worst father award>kid who who tried to speed run all the Mad King's atrocities
>>222380366OFFICIAL AND CANON ENDGAMEAegon Blackfyre-Mopatis, King of Andals, Rhoynar and First Men.His wife Shireen Baratheon, Lady of Storm's End and the Stormlands.NORTHRickon Stark, Lord of Winterfell and the North.His wolf Shaggy Doo and his dragon Cannibal.Baby Walder Bolton, Lord of Dreadfort.Walda Bolton-Frey his mother and regent.RIVERLANDSEdmure Tully, Lord of Riverrun and the Riverlands.His wife Roslin Frey.Jonos Bracken, Lord of Stone Hedge and Raventree Hall.Harwyn Plumm, Lord of Darry.His wife Amarei Frey.VALERobert Arryn, Lord of Eyrie and the Vale.Harold Hardyng and his wife Sansa Stark.Petyr Baelish, hanging from his tower.WESTERNLANDSMartyn Lannister, Lord of Westernlands, married to some Crakehall or whatever.Lost lord Tarbeck, Lord of Tarbeck Hall and Castamere.REACHWillas Tyrell, Lord of the Reach.Leyton Hightower, Lord of the Oldtown, happily celebrating destruction of Euron's fleet.DORNEIdk who cares, Yronwoods or whatever.IRON ISLANDSVictarion Greyjoy, Lord Reaper of Pyke, married to Daenerys and dusky woman (Euron).
>>222379976Only losers like Stannis.Renly was the rightful king, and would have made a just and righteous king. Stannis was a kinslaying traitor.
>>222379641>it’s ok to be a peice of shit if you’re likable and charismatic?see: Daemon
>>222380557FAFO
>>222379976aurakino soundtrack
>>222380568but he's neither he's introduced having ED, murdering his cute wife and grooming his underage niece for sex
>>222380568Yes
>>222380538King beyond the Wall Jon Snow, married to Val and Arya
>>222380600Good, adding to the list.
>ser Criston drew his longsword from its scabbard. As you will it. We can begin here, the four of us. One of me against the three of you. Will that be enough to make a fight of it>If there are gods, why is the world so full of pain and injustice?>Because of men like you.>There are no men like me. There's only me.Pink mast and squatting in the grass aside, GRRM gives all his best lines to ''fallen'' knights
I miss their innocence.
>>222380656they never got to enjoy it thanks to (((blacks)))
>>222380646Darkstar isn't a fallen knight.
>>222380646amazing, amazing sir! very much inspiring
>>222380366Based Bloodraven is going to make sure NONE of this ever happens
>>222380673darkstar is a faggot larper
>>222380673Darkstar is a Daemon-tier character, with GRRM trying to recapture the feeling of characters like Oberyn Martell or Jamie Lannister but failing.
>>222380666
>>222380366AI slop bros...
>>222380695Dorkstar picks fights with children that he can't even win
>>222380728So does Daemon lol
>>222380673>obviously supposed to be a replacement for PUNISHED Ned Dayne after 5 years in the Riverlands>falls completely flat because he has no build up and believable feats as a resultwhat the fuck was GRRM thinking?
>>222380673>tries to kill an innocent maiden>steals his family's ancestral swordYour right nothing wrong with any of that.
>>222380743Daemon wins all his fights with children actually
>>222380743Kek
>>222380747discarding the timeskip idea killed got
>>222380760only if he dies in the process
>>222380743>dies in his first dragon battlekek
>all this seethe about DarkstarBunch of sissies who would never survive the night
>>222380743kwab
>>222379420>>222379542>greentranniesRhaenyra is interpreted by a literal they/them, projecting much?
>>222380801>greatest achievement is trying to kill Myrcella and only fucking up her face by accident then running into the night
>>222380869yesrhaenyra looks like hunter schafer
>frogtrannies
daeronmore like gayeron
daemonmore like gaymon
>>222380903I meant Daeron Waters btw, sorry for the confusion.
>>222380869>quoting the old threadgreentrannies seething as usual
rhaenysmore like gaynys
He comes....
>>222379976He has the coolest oneliners in the saga
>>222380801darkstar could destroy anyone is westeros very easily, they are lucky hes so peaceful
maegormore like gaygor
>>222380970>He has the coolest oneliners in the sagaI'm... Sneed.
>>222380926I do mean Daemon Targaryen "Prince of the Shitty".
>>222380869Troons are NOT going to be happy you're calling them out, anon!
>>222380869>quoting the forgotten loreGreenGODS correct as usual.
>>222380968No, no, no!
>>222380995she looks like my niece
Where the FUCK is vhagar
>Introducing your new girlfriend to your exceedingly young mother.
>>222380968>>222381021Why was Benjicot Blackwood cut?And why did the Blackwoods support the Blacks in the show after Daemon murdered their guy?
StardsKarstardsDustbinsDumbersTardaryensGayjoysBlackedwoodsTrannisters
>>222380366Thought that Sansa for a second and was gonna say based. Then gagged when I saw Jon and Danny for in some gross obvos poly relationship with their dead lovers
>>222381041Vhagar died on his way back to his home planet
>>222381041Dorne ravaging the countryside with Visenya. Visenya has gotten a lot quieter lately but she's definitely still up for attacking Dorne
>>222381058
>>222381038she monkey>>222381071he doesnt enter the story until the second tumbleton but they already removed the lads
>>222381058reminds me of the first time my mom came to have dinner with my gf and i at my house lolmy gf is 10 years younger than me so i think it weirded her out
>>222381041Hiding underwater in the God's Eye, it soothes her achy joints
>>222381041lord borros baratheon claimed her to finally genocide the dornish
>>222381071>Why was Benjicot Blackwood cut?Cowardice>And why did the Blackwoods support the Blacks in the show after Daemon murdered their guy?Events don't have consequences in Condal/Hess fanfiction
>>222379821Aemond just loved witchussy. I don't know why Condal had to pointlessly complicate the matter.
>>222379614Aegon won the dance of dragons and was a rightful uncontested king for a while before getting poisoned
>>222381041She's afraid of the show's budget
>>222381071You don’t like bloody Oscar? It’s the same character but a Tully, because remember catelyn tully from the main series? She’s his great great granddaughter
>>222381237He didn't win, the blacks weren't defeated and didn't swear allegiance, Aegon was always contested by Aegon the younger who the blacks backed after Rhaenyra dies
>>222381261>remember catelyn tully from the main series? She’s his great great granddaughterare you sure? he doesn't appear to have bred.
>>222379706>*teaches your kids to raid and reeve*
>>222381261It's not that Oscar sucks (even if he's the wrong Tully brother), it's that they namedropped Benjicot in S2 and then refused to cast him
>>222381296Cregan punished aegons killers for kingslaying, if he wasn’t the king he would have no need to do that
>>222381312>included JoeyHoly based, anon.
>>222381326Cregan was marching south to kill Aegon himself, Cregan is just autistic about honor because he's a starktard
>>222381338It was a pretty corny movie, but she looked good all bloody like that
>rhaenyra wants to fight at tumbleton but daemon locks her in her room againwhy are men so shitty
Rhaenyra weight gain comic
>>222381237see>>222381296The Blacks won. Aegon the Usurper went down in history as a usurper, not a king. Rhaenyra's son Aegon became Aegon II (because no usurper could claim that style), and decreed that Rhaenyra be acclaimed throughout the realm as queen. Or are you going to claim that Aegon and Viserys would just *let* maesters call their mother a usurper whore who was never queen? Are you going to claim that the Iron Throne couldn't make the Citadel bow to its whim. Please.
>>222379870>HOTD is so devoid of attractive actresses that people have to simp for thisit's insane how there isn't a single woman in the show that would be even top 50 in GOT, it has to be intentional
>>222381360Daemon knows Syrax is a pampered princess, not a war dragon
>>222381387wonderbread comic but with rhaenyra
>>222381356True on both points lol. Corny as fuck, but very ironborn coded. Plus those deep blue eyes. Definitely made for rough oral sex.
>>222381312if you do a riverlands one can you use madelaine petsch for house tully?
>>222381393Rhaenyra was forever known as a princess and a usurper by the time of GoT
>>222381393>Aegon the Usurper went down in history as a usurperOH NOOO-ACK!!!!
>>222381465>>222381472Retards.
>>222381439Depends on if there's some good clips of her in period-era clothes to look on theme. Otherwise I was thinking Daisy Ridley in Ophelia or Anne Hale in Salem or something or other
>>222381465((Maesters)) made that slander happen to dodge another female monarch ever being anointed
>>222381491Only read the first line, I’m too trigger happy
>>222381496>i-its all master slander!>rhaenyra was akshually a progressive lesbian!Go hang yourself, Hess.
>>222381495riverdale season 7 i believe
>>222381472He is suppose to be such a sensible man. Yet he burned his own daughter and had his own brother killed by shadow magic. Was it the greed?
>>222381495The Curse of Sleeping Beauty or Riverdale should have some material
>>222381541Cope and seethe, Greenie, you lose and Aegon was a false king
>>222381584The demon Rh'llor is an Infernal that's powered by sacrifice.
>>222381472What was stannis fucking problem? If king word is the law then why is he butthurt that rhaenyra was legally a ruler when Viserys clearly stated so. Did maesters removed that info from history books?
>>222381584>sensibleHe is the opposite.
>>222381635>Did maesters removed that info from history books?How could they without the Targaryens finding out that one of their own was being slandered?Logically the only way the maesters could write that Rhaenyra was a usurper was if House Targaryen allowed it.
>>222381602>the absolute state of blacksissiesRemember these folks don’t live in reality and do not adhere to facts
>>222381584hes a hypocrite>everyone should follow the rules except me
>>222381041she's just 2 stealthy 5 u
>>222381602Not a queeen, never a queen.>her line sat the-She is dragon shit lmao.
>>222381635George retconned this, if Clash was republished without continuity errors this would be taken out
>>222381692>ClashIt's in A Storm of Swords
>>222380713Lord Coralys should be in the picture too. Dany has Velaryon blood.
>>222381653>implying targshits read history books except reading ones with pictures and with aura farming knights
>>222381799>Dany is half First Men and 1/3 Dornishlel
i will protect helaena at all costs
>>222379594Finished re-reading F&B and I forgot how blatantly pro-Black George is in it even when writing via a Septon that's sympathetic to the Greens with two pro-Green sources and only one pro-Black one who is also an insane degenerate. Like there really is no attempt made whatsoever to justify Aegon taking the throne as actually what Viserys wanted to happen, it's mostly just the Hightowers being power-hungry and Aegon being convinced if he doesn't do it he'll be killed for the fear he would try later.Even throughout the rest of the events the only really fucked up thing the Blacks do directly is Blood and Cheese, shit like Maelor being mauled to death was entirely the fault of random peasants who got immediately punished by Rhaenyra's sworn followers for it. She probably would have been a disappointing Queen the same way her dad was a do-nothing King but things would have been so much better if she was just allowed ascend.I can kinda see why season 1 rewrote so much to justify Alicent being scared of her and thinking Aegon had been the rightful heir in Viserys' eyes too, it's the only way to make the conflict not just one-sided. So it's so fucking weird how ever since the writers have tried to undermine that.
>>222381855Enjoy your autist BROTHEL QUEEN writhing on the spikes, simp
>>222381635The kings word is not law when it comes to the sacred laws of succession
Reading across the web about how people would implove Westero's political landscape made me realize people keep falling for the middle ages democracy meme instead of going all in with enlighted despotism
>>222381879>Aegon being convinced if he doesn't do it he'll be killed for the fear he would try later.That's true and by itself is a better reason to claim the throne than muh daddy loved me more
>>222381879It's incredible biased but people here get really fucking mad when you try to talk a out it and yeah blood and cheese was a sad attempt of grey morality to pull the "both sides are le bad" meme then you see all the shit the greens did and you realise how bad the dance is.
>>222379594Why are they so power-hungry?
>>222381891>blacksissy who unironically supports a woman being in charge calling anyone a simp El oh el
>enlighted (lmao) despotism
>>222379618THAT'S TAOOBA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_7KaHtWExc
>>222381953>hightowersmad cuz bad eternally mogged by gardener and tyrell chads>dornereddit faction
>>222381921I think Rhaenyra probably wouldn't have actually killed Aegon unprovoked, as per how she's written in F&B. The problem would be Alicent whispering in his ear and Daemon being a hot-head who never got over losing his eye and wanting revenge; I could see that leading to a confrontation eventually but Aegon I genuinely believe would have been happy to just fuck off to some castle and keep whoring and drinking in peace normally.And yeah it's a way better motive than what the show went for, wish they'd leaned into it more. He can have his doubts about Viserys' last words and want them to be true so he feels his dad really did love him most but his main motive should be everyone around him saying he's gonna fucking die if he doesn't usurp her.
>>222381953Targtrannies see these sigils in their nightmares every night
>>222381912But kings word is a law when trying to make jon leave nightwatch where joining is considered sacred duty that you cant abandon?
>>222381912Why did Stannis try to crown Shireen then
>>222381667500 years in paint
>>222382032She is his heir by Andal law because he doesn’t have a son
>>222381916People wanting modern liberal Democracy in Westeros simply don't understand the material and societal conditions necessary for it to happen, especially on a continent-wide scale. Literacy has to be near universal, there needs to be widespread and quickly transmitted news that's promoted by independent bodies, there has to be total legislative reform and an increase in industrialisation and urbanisation, etc.Enlightened despotism where the Targ's somehow shit out multiple Jaeherys I tier kings in a row that use their dragons and long-reigns to implement increasingly strong reforms and public works is the best you could reasonably hope for.
>>222381985Rhaenyra wouldn't. Daemon would.>unprovokedThe moment Rhaenyra does something unpopular with nobility they would see they have a perfect replacement for her and start scheming. That would count as a provocation even if Aegon has nothing to do with it. Aemond, Daeron and Aegon's children also are before Rhaenyra in the traditional line of succession so by claiming the throne Aegon may be seen as trying to protect them too.
>>222382046And who made that law
>>222381953>why do people resist incestuous schizos that lost their homeland and want to rule western menhmmm
i HATE the blacks
Aegon IV was so lucky...
>>222381953They were used to being the second-power in the second most important realm that had an amazing fleet, controller all naval trade with the west coast of westeros, and had direct access to the only form of higher learning/study and the religious centre of the continent, and spent about a century trying to sit out the dragon rider's wars.You take that level of prestige and pomp and then give it to Otto, who is a second son that will forever have to mald and cope about not actually getting to wield it but who gets a taste of real direct control by being made Hand for decades, and you wind up with a dude whose ambitious beyond reason.
>>222382080Rhaenyra's faction? House Velaryon? Summer Island folks?
>>222382066The father above in all his righteousness, guided by the wisdom of the crone
>>222382133Did he aye?
>>222382118Nights Watch, he's a wildling
>>222382156Aye.
Anyone else think the ironborn are based as fuck?
>>222382018King can release someone from maester's or septon's vows so it's not a stretch it's the same with NW.
>>222382182And who did he tell
1 billion dollars
>>222382193Hugor of the Hill.
>>222382102It must've been so satisfying to continually despoil and corrupt this pure, innocent wannabe septa at any time you like, all while your cuck brother has to stand by and watch.
>>222382186Sorry I'm not a nigger.
>>222382196lmao
>>222382186they're nigger culture, what's based about them?
>>222382064There's not really a "traditional" line of succession system for the Targs at that point, and the Seven Kingdoms didn't follow absolute male primogeniture either - daughters come before a Lord's brothers and uncles many times throughout the history as we know it, while Targs (based on F&B) COULD put a daughter over even a son if they chose to (they just didn't, for Aegon I or Jaeherys). The great council established that the consensus was that sons should take precedence over daughters for Targs as well, but it wasn't codified into law directly.That's why there was any contention over it instead of people just telling Viserys he couldn't make her his heir. By custom he as king could declare whoever he wanted to make his heir be it, even if it ignored the usual chain of succession of the Seven Kingdoms itself, and by doing it there's a fair argument to make her sons (which were unlegitimized """secret""" bastards to be clear) would also by right come before their cousins. So it was a clusterfuck where the King said one thing but the great council had said another, but the latter was just the lords of the 7K enforcing their own traditions without it being written into legislation that the Targs had to always do it forever after.
>>222382186Of course, though all men do despise us
>>222382272They are lovecraftian orc Vikings who decend from azor ahai himself
>>222380366did drogon lay an egg or what
>>222382273Jaeherys really should have just written a fucking legal act to enforce the council's will or not been such a pussy and told his wife and daughter he was making Viserys his heir because he wanted to.
>>222382272Are you retarded? Raping, pillaging, and paganism are white culture. They are literally vikings. Niggers cant swim or build boats. Ironborn are arguably the whitest purest kingdom.
goodnight, /got/hotd/dunk/
>>222382273I meant traditional Westerosi line, not the Targ one>and the Seven Kingdoms didn't follow absolute male primogeniture eitherNo one said they did.>but it wasn't codified into law directlyThe Widow's Law states that sons inherit before daughters.>That's why there was any contention over it instead of people just telling Viserys he couldn't make her his heirShe was his heir at that point though.
>>222382243you sound like one
>>222379645I will support the Blackfyres if the red dragons are revealed to be as lame as Rhaenerya in some future adaptation. Otherwise, I'd support the reds. The consistent position is pro-green, pro-red, pro-baratheon so supporting Daeron and opposing the Blackfyres makes sense actually. Stannis never supported them.
>>222382323>The Widow's Law states that sons inherit before daughters.Doesn't that just state that kids born in an earlier marriage can't be disinherited in favour of ones from a later marriage and retain their rights?
Ormund x Rhaenyra
So they're making a Conquest movie now? Can't wait to see Idris Elba as Aegon the Conqueror. Who are the two sheboons that should play his sisters?
>>222382370It also confirms in passing sons inheriting before daughters >To rectify these ills, in 52 AC King Jaehaerys implemented the Widow's Law, reaffirming the right of the eldest son (or daughter, where there was no son) to inherit, but requiring said heirs to maintain surviving widows in the same conditions they enjoyed before their husband's death.
>>222382392Very original joke, anon. Good job.
>>222382392Zendaya and Nicki Minaj
>>222382316>Iron Islands>literally build nothing>no major exports or products or services to speak of>don't even have trees to build a fleet with - they have to steal it from other places>no wealth>must take shit from others to get anything>Muh Iron priceThey're poor niggers, they rape and pillage because they can't do anything else and choose not to. If their whole culture was and islands were nuked no one would care and nothing would be lost.
>>222382102He got cucked by a kingsguard, a tale as old as time.
>>222382370THE DOGO OF KINO THRONES
>>222382332Ok nigger
>>222382408cardi b & megan
>>222382392>Aegon invades Westeros >kneels before the high septon in oldtown and converts to the faith Oh no, valyriagods, they better change this part….
>>222380378>so where does the meme that stannis can't inspire loyalty come from?he alienates potential supporters by not giving a fuck if people like him or not, which is based but it really does fuck him over in the long run
>>222382370You're mixed up, it also mentions sons come before daughters. The contradiction with the Widow's law is that if you follow it precisely then Rhaenys should have been made heir when her two brothers died and the third decided to stick to being a Maester; giving it to a nephew instead is not complying with the written word of it OR how inheritance usually seems to work outside of Dorne.But ignoring Rhaenyra for Aegon is actually fine by the Widow's law because its prioritising a son over a daughter and not the kids of a second marriage over one from a first.
>>222382456Oops i misquoted you anon srry. >>222382370
>>222382406It's not a joke. It's already established in the GoT /Hotd canon that the Velaryons are Black, and we know the conqueror's own mother was a Velaryon, that means the conqueror and his sisters MUST be black or it's racist and non-canon. Hopefully they'll add some hip hop music and have them rapping while flying their dragons n shiiiiet.
>>222382414>>literally build nothingthey built the iron fleet
>>222382211Ah, a king, curious
>>222382384Ormund would be horrified.
>>222380212I don't think that pantsu is historically accurate
>>222382497We've seen the grandkids of Aegon and none of them were mixed, most likely explanation will be the Velaryons were white and whoever Corlys' mystery mother or paternal grandmother were were black women in the show verse.
>>222380366I thought it was Sansa for a second
>>222382497there's still a few generations between Aegon and Corlys though
>>222382573EGGGGG GET AWAY FROM THAT NON-BINARY CREATURE THEY REPRODUCE BY DIDLING!!!
>>222382560but corlys looks fully black. are velaryon genes that weak?
>>222382566So between the conquest and the dance they developed a legendary family wide case of jungle fever
>>222382573>How many Aegon's have been king?>Four... four Aegons....
>>222382467>he alienates potential supporterslike who
>>222382414Yes exactly, you're finally starting to realize the truth about Nordcucks
>>222382607It could be that his mom was fully black and his granny on his dad's side was too so he's 3/4 black. Driftmark is explicitly a trading hub with only two port towns on it full of foreigners, it wouldn't be too out there for the showrunners to just use that as an excuse to justify why Rhaenys and Jaeherys are both clearly totally white.
>Have to wait until next season to see Aegon go mad after finding out Helaena diedfuck you condal
>>222382560lol the corlys velaryon in this one will be white as snow
>>222382392Argilac and Orys will be the fan favorites
>>222382638When maester proposes engaging Shireen to Sweetrobin for alliance, he and Melisandre seethe at the suggestion of "selling her off" despite the fact that she would have to marry some lord anyway.
>>222382618summer isles baddies just got it like that
>>222380378>where does the meme that stannis can't inspire loyalty come from?All the storm lords supported Renly and he's had to depend on sell swords and pirates
>>222382802not all of them, only like half show up at bitterbridge. a bunch hold their forces back or try to play multiple sides (Tarth, Swann, Dondarrion, etc)
>>222382746>inb4 gets 2mins of screen time with their swordfight and then argilac's servants giving up his daughterlmao
>>222381916Being serious, it wouldn't work in westeros. We need a few things to get to that levelsEducation needs to be spread out from old town. Rulers can't be enlightened without there being philosophers providing ideals. The maesters aren't doing it, they're glorified tutors. The major septs could pick up some of the slack but don't.Second we need a standing army and an actual currency to pay the army with. This is really required to centralize the government enough to ditch feudalism. Westeros is locked down without these.I would argue the more obvious government change is a post dance king fucking up enough to get the great houses to force a magna Carta on the king, and the great council becomes something that meets regularly instead of just when they need to solve a succession problem.
Did people go to war over women becoming Queen Regnants in real medieval history like in dance of dragons?
>>222382822Most then, and he never had enough support to take Storms End as his base of operations, and he goes North to try to win support by fighting the wildings because nobody supports him, really you're retarded for arguing against the fact Stannis can't inspire loyalty, and his fate lies in the hands of the Iron Bank buying him more mercenaries
>>222382822>Dondarrion, etcHe was too busy playing robin hood with Thoros in the Riverlands.
Why the puppies didn't take to Olivia Cooke bros?Even Fabian got one to love him unconditionally.
>>222382780actually he was open to the idea until selyse shamed him out of doing it
>>222382697>see Aegon go mad after finding out Helaena diedhonestly doubt aegon would give much of a shit given how distant from her he was shown to be
>>222382864Of course not. The whole misogyny thing is grossly exaggerated by GRRM in aosiaf.Ruling queens were rare and the preference for inheritance always went to men, but the times Queen Regnants came into power, people were okay with it.GRRM is just a fat misogynistic retard who never understood medieval history.
>>222382866half isn't mostMeanwhile his ability to inspire loyalty can be seen in the fact that his men will charge across a bridge over a river of fire, attack an army 100,000-strong, and follow him along a freezing death march to Winterfell. And it should be noted that for all that he’s considered a merciless man, he merely imprisons bannermen who take up arms against him – no executions are ordered.But showfags that never read the books (like you) wouldn't know any of that.
>>222379594He bore the sword
Did the Royal council intentionally pick a weak heir like Viserys to taint the Targaryens? Rhaenys was clearly the stronger candidate and would have made a far better ruler. Jaehaerys is a retard that doomed his family by not overriding the lords and picking her.
>>222382930Yeah you're retarded, can't even read correctly, seeing as I mentioned a book only plot line and you call me a showfagStannis has 1500 soldiers, per Davos in White Harbor, fuckin retard
>>222382638Stannis not making some kind of deal with Robb will always be my biggest gripe with him, at least until he burns Shireen
>>222382987If you'd read the book and not a wiki you wouldn't have said something so retarded, showfag. lmao dumb faggot, my points stand (you couldn't refute them)
How do you tell your Stormlander wife that you will have to leave her and your sons to go fight for your rightful king against some wildlings miles away in the North?
>>222382697aegon had a big titty gigacute autistic whifu sitting alone in her champers while he was out whoring and watching child cage fights. he wouldnt even hug her after their son died. hes an idiot
>>222382987Quality not quantity, one Stannischad is worth 10 Renly poofs and 20 wildlings.
>>222382896She's still his sister even if doesn't love her as a wife, Helaena dying in custody would be just about enough to push him over the edge and push him to go to Dragonstone unlike the book where him going there is completely retarded.
>>222383045most of them are reachmen and crownlanders
>>222382913He understand most of medieval history, he just choose to exaggerated it. My gripe is that for some reason religion is not really that important in westeros and is ignored by most lords. In reality event such as red wedding would made entire house Frey persona non grata at best, excommunicated and punished at worst
I wish dragons were real so I could kill one
>>222382913Then how come ruling queens are such a big deal in dance of dragons?
>>222382864https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_of_FranceIn England everyone actively chose her over her husband, the legitimate king, and she became regent for her son after she likely killed her husband. She's a very cool woman, and her husband was very likely a literal faggot. She watched while her husbands butt buddy was hanged, drawn, and quartered.
>>222383055He is normal for not wanting to have sex with his sister.
>>222383064It’s just retarded how much he exaggerated the “women oppressed” theme.
>>222383066You would die like a bitch and you know it.
>>222382982he simply didnt trust foids because his daughters ruined his life. you cant blame him
>>222382186They could be cool, but George decided to just make them all the negative aspects of Viking culture with none of the positives.
>>222382864Literally the Carlist Wars, where fatman got the whole idea for the dance from.
>>222383067I think it's meant to reflect Salic Law, and by extension the 100 years war.
>>222383067how?
>NOOOO UNCLE EDMURE WHY DID YOU TAKE THE MILL>YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DO NOTHING AND READ MY MIND> I HATE YOU
>>222383101Any "man" who uses that word will never have sex
>>222383078She was Queen consort and regent. Not Regnant.
>>222383056>Qualityheh, he lost his only battle to a midge
>>222381879yeah Alicent is just a cunt in the books, in the show (S1) you can kinda see her point
>>222383150it's obvious robb had a plan but why he didn't just tell edmure to let tywin return west if he tried is beyond me
>>222383045>Honey, I have to leave you and our sons to go fight for my rightful king against some wildlings in the North
>>222383086not normal by targ standards
>>222381879it's insane how redditors will continue to say "the histories" are pro-green lol
>>222383162Oh I misread then, sorry. For some reason I thought that said regent instead of regnant a la Rex Regina.
Does GRRM hate Stormlanders? He always makes them seem like cucks, losers, and idiots.
>>222383217Queen Regents, Queen Consorts and Queen Dowagers aren’t rulers. Queen Regnants are.
>>222383091He exaggerated everything. For example in ASOIAF life of smallfolk is pretty much worth nothing and almost nobody bats an eye how badly they are treated. Meanwhile in reality peasants were important because they were backbone of medieval economies. Its like someone shitting on blue collar workers
Jaehaerys' biggest mistake was letting Rhaenys marry Corlys to begin with.He should have had her and Viserys betrothed while they were younger, especially after she claimed a dragon.As for Corlys he could have been given a non-dragonriding princess like Viserra, but Alysanne was a turbo bitch to that daughter for some reason and tried to marry her off to some fat old guy who's already gone through several wives, seriously what was her fucking problem?Daemon could then have married Aemma, which brings the Vale into the fold like original plus Daemon gets a valyrian bride like he always wanted.
>>222383227Why are Stormlanders so fucking based?>Robert>Stannis>Renly >Barristan Selmy>Balon Swann>Jon Connington>Rolland Storm>Edric Storm>Davos Seaworth (honorary)>Anguy>Berric Dondarrion>Brienne>Courtnay Penrose >Donal Noye>Lester Morrigen>Guyard Morrigen>Richard Horpe>Bryce Caronand the list goes on and onHow can one region be so based? It's like the Stormlands are the god's whetstone for warriors.
>>222379639I would totally let him kill me if he was king
>>222383227Could be worse, could be Riverlanders.The only reason they do so well in the Dance is George wanted to give them at least one win, otherwise they are always getting fucked by every other kingdom.
>>222383296>>222383290Both kneel to Norfchads
>>222381916the real driving force behind liberal democracy is simply the liberal merchant class becoming more powerful than the hereditary nobility. it has nothign to do with the people and their ideas. "democracy" is the rule of the rich merchants and that is clearly not possible in westeros since the nobles and targshits are much stronger than them
>>222383263Seems like every problem the Targs had could have been solved by more incest
>>222383296They did so well during dance is because they had respawn machine turn on for their armies for single event
>>222383319
>>222383254>Meanwhile in reality peasants were importantkek
>>222383206>redditors/got/ became reddit?
>>222379594>we came to die for da dragon kween!>(because our 3rd world shithole region dont have enough food to feed us so we have to die in some war)why are norfniggers like this?
>>222383402Pansy southcucks wouldnt get it
>>222383402>I HAVE A MESSAGE FOR THE DEAD COLE. Well maybe not those soldiers of ours that I just let you kill for no reason. They didn't really matter actually.. They were just idiots.
>>222383387
>>222383343Yep, just like refusing to do incest always leads to problems, like Baelor the Blessed refusing to fuck his sister-wife led to her birthing Daemon Blackfyre.Incest solves everything in house Targaryen.
>>222383402It's a white male thing. Browns wouldn't get it.
>>222383402>I can’t fuckin wait to die!>splendid, duel me let’s fuckin die >ummmm…archers help!!!!
>>222383340>rule of the rich merchants and that is clearly not possible in westeros since the nobles and targshits are much stronger than themWe'll see about that
>>222383432They looked like such cringy retards that I just have to believe that Condal was going for that.
>>222383503kek
>>222383512Was book Baelish suppose to be alot smarter? But show him was dumb as fuck.
>>222383340there's more social mobility in that system than one of hereditary nobility, so even flawed it's better for people, and as we've seen with the dying of the dragons the targs aren't much stronger than the people when they mobilise
>>222383512>>222383563House Baelish is truly THE god-tier house in Westeros. Let's compare his resources compared to a great house, and their fates.>House Baelish -Men-at-arms: 2Knights/Freeriders: 4other household retainers: around 5major assets: a couple dozen sheep and an old flint towerCurrent status: Lord of Harrenhal, Lord Paramount of the Riverlands, Lord Protector of the Vale, about to get some sweet Sansa pussy>House Stark-Men-at-arms: tens of thousandsKnights/Freeriders: hundreds, if not thousandsother household retainers: hundredsmajor assets: a great fortress with vast lands, and half of WesterosCurrent status: dead, about to be fucked, lost, stuck in tree internet, and smashing walnuts>Baelish Power Leveltoo fucking high to count
>>222383512>we'll see about tha->SHANSHA PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU I LOVE YOU NOOO PLEASE NO
>>222383390Yes? I didn't say they were treated with kindness but they literally were making their lords and nobles rich. They had legal rights in some places and in most places in europe clergy and christianity in general made made that they weren't mistreated too badly (in times of peace, it was different during war). Half of shit that happened in ASOIAF wouldn't fly in medieval europe without major consequences, revolts or interventionts from clergy/papal state
>>222383563Much smarter, he's actually got a plan there and a shitload of people following him, Tyrion regards him as dangerous.
>>222383503Everytime he appears on screen he just repeats the same "die for muh queen, muh death in battle is glorious" and then does nothingfucking fraud
>>222382864It's hundred years war shit >Charles IV does in 1328 >Claim by the English crownEdward III, I'm closest relative to the last guy, and I'm a man. >Claim made by french nobilityWe said a dozen years ago in 1316 that women can't inherent shit. So inhereting though your mom is bullshit. Phillip VI is king.Fatmam made this pretty damn obvious that this is what's being reflected by having Grover Tully cite the great council of 101 AC for why Rhae's claim sucks. A direct reflection of the French Nobles citing 1316 in their argument.
>>222383613Also forgot to say he's already in control of two kingdoms.
>>222383613Tyrion was a dumb fuck for not putting baelish head on spike when he knew it was littlefinger lie that almost ended tyrion life
>>222383616he does the same pose too like here >>222383402he literally did it in every one of his scenes lol. northerners are a meme
>>222383616He is going to rape ormund
>>222383610>they weren't mistreated too badlykek
>>222383651it's a glaring plothole in A Clash of Kings that Tyrion does nothing to Littlefinger
>>222383616>Dying is battle is totally cool. Just not for me. Not today. I will bring an army to kill Cole and his men. But only after he has been shot in the face with an arrow so that I can make sure he isn't a real threat. 1v1 combat? haha no thanks.
It's amazing how irrelevant Vale of Arryn is.
>>222383678They're do nothing, win
>>222383677>1v1 combat? haha no thanks.
>>222383669He is going to be killed by ormund*
>>222383704>1v1 combatCole offered 2v1, they still pussied out, he would've bashed the twink and poser grandpa's heads in with the flail.
JUST
>>222383767>2v1 against an old man and a literal childWhat was Cole thinking?
>>222383675stressful times though innit, preparing to be besieged
>>222383741Aw shit new cope just dropped greentrannoids
>>222383784They're the ones that came to die for the dragon whore, that's their problem.
>>222383677NOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST KILL ME IN BATTLE YOU HAVE TO 1V1
>>222383784one wants to die for the dragon queen the other one just did an epic speech about building a sept from the bones of his enemies. based cole put the two larpers on the spot
>>222383788When Davos delivered that line about shitting himself before every battle. I felt that. I shit myself before i have to go to work every day.
>>222383850based
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO 1v1 ME LIKE ALL THOSE ENEMY SOLDIERS DID! YOU CANT JUST SHOOT ME WITH ARRO...ACK!
>>222383784to be fair, Cole was also tired from just fighting and wasn't wearing any armor.So it would have been an even fight.
Would you lick Rhaenyra's stinky xir pussy if she promised you a castle after?
>RISK YOUR LIFE TO HONORABLY DUEL MY OATHBREAKING AND MURDERING ASS PLEASE!>PLEA...ACK!
>>222383898>My lords.. cannot you just... maybe attack Cole head on? I don't want to die for no reason just to tire him out so that you can shoot him in the face with an arrow anyway??What did the guys that pretended to be dead think about this plan?
>>222379641Sorry dude but that scene was never meant to happen in the first place and you’re meant to forget about it.Condal and Hess were just too retarded to understand that it was a lie told by an unreliable narrator (Mushroom), they didn’t realise this until fan backlash. It was actually very obvious in the book that it was bullshit, but the writers are actual fuck ups. This explains why it has never been mentioned again.
>>222383919I would lick her pussy if she promised to piss on me after
>>222379976Autists and outcasts resonate with him. But he was also the most determined by far and had a cool sidekick and a sexy witch for the non-autists who wanted to be team stanos.
>>222383677>1v1 combat? haha no thanks.there's nothing wrong with being a coward
>>222379641dyana obviously just made the whole "rape" thing up. regret is not rape
>>222383969Don't blame the victim.
>>222383947Its called tactical survival. Why risk death in a pointless 1v1 when the dragon queen could use your heroic death in a later battle?
>>222383616According to leaks he dies next episode.
OUR FUARKING KANGZ> The GOLDEN Dragon > The CHAD who Bore the BBC> The Burning Stag
>>222383779>
>>222384048syrax was in a hurry
>>222379976He had the only right. Ned knew this. That power crazed Tully woman and her mudspawn genuinely thought they could take half his kingdom. Imagine if Stannis was bitch enough to let this happen the Others would have won.
>>222383779>heart of a king>soul of a king>body of a prime targ breeding slutyeah shes my queen
>>222380059Reminder that Viserys Third of his Name released his Dragon all over that. He sold Drogo used goods.
Could Rhaenyra beat current Aegon in a 1v1 fight?
>>222380366This is the only wish fulfillment here that I like
>>222384130proof?
>>222384130vizzy proved that hes true king material by pursuing his ambitions. an average person in his place would be content living in some small house in braavos and breeding dany all day long.
>>222384130Wrong. Her hymen was intact. She was a maiden.
>>222380801The straightest knight in all the realm, the Fag in the Morning cannot relate.
>>222381635By the right of Viserys II own ascension over Rhaenys the Queen who was BLACKED. The legal male heir always comes before the female. Stannis is still right.
>you're still ffertile, you need to marry again and breedwas tywin a chud?
>>222382451Daeron II is a fat bitch and not a giga chad like Aemon. It's clear that Aegon IV sucked and fucked Naerys tight virign pussy till he got bored while Aemon listened.
>>222380366>Khal Drogo acting civilized?
It was Cregan's cope.
>>222382982in the books she was never meant to be Queen, Laenor was the actual candidate and he was a young child. question was if kinship was still hereditary by passing by a female line, not to have a female ruler. They probably didn't want the Sea snake to be too powerful as regent
>>222384461>>222384461>>222384461
>>222383701> killed by riverbitch > cucked by riverbitch> you ancient Andal house is subverted by a manlet lowly Bravoosi immigrant KWAB
>>222383928they uhh came to die for the dragon queen...
