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Strong Belwas edition

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>>222398106
season 3 of Lost ended 20 years ago lil bro
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>>222398102
>exclude Strong Belwas
>show goes to shit
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>*teaches your kids some Dornish*
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great: GOT S1
good: GOT S2, GOT S3, GOT S4, Dunk
alright: HOTD S1
meh: GOT S6, HOTD S3
kinda shit: GOT S7
total shit: GOT S5, GOT S8, HOTD S2
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>>222398102
GOT isn't canon
HOTD isn't canon
AKOTSK isn't canon
The Play isn't canon

>Only the books are canon.

https://grrm.livejournal.com/352453.html?thread=18585285#t18585285
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJOIPiEkcx4

if the anti woke movement hadn't lost all it's steam they would have torn HOTD apart.
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Sex with Daeron.
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>More rapes your grace?
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>>222398158
Can you tell me what happens to Stannis in the books?
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>>222398204
he dies fighting the boltons and freys, his daughter gets burnt
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>>222398158
Also George saying stuff isn't canon, that often tricks people
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The worst of GOT is miles above the second half of HOTD season 1 and all of HOTD season 2 & 3. Even GRRM admits as much as he shat on the later seasons of HOTD when he never said anything against GOT even when they were making season 8. The show is literally unwatchabl with Alicent trying to kill her children. GOT was never as woke as even season 1 of HOTD is. Its been mostly a steady decline since GOT season 5 and HOTD only continued the downward trajectory.
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>>222398180
>you were caught graping the dowager queen. Prepare to be unalived.
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>>222398102
what are the troops of the cities of essos ?

>braavos
60k
>volantis
50k
>qarth
50k
>pentos
40k
>lys
30k
>tyrosh
30k
>myr
30k
>mantarys
30k
>new ghis
10k

could daemon and aemon together conquer them or some of them ?
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aegon carries s3
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>>222398221
I don't think that's actually what happens
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>>222398253
it actually is
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>>222398234
>a steady decline since GOT season 5
*S2, but probably S1 is more accurate but I really liked Blackwater and the build up to it.
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>>222394536
Balerion doesn't have a good track record with protecting little girls.
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>>222398234
>muh woke
opinion discarded
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I HATE CRIPPLES, BASTIDS AND BROKEN THINGS
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>>222398271
Well seeing as the books haven't been written then it can't be what happens in the novels
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>>222398249
Daemon could barely kick the Triarchy (or in the show just a fleet of pirates secretly supported by the Trairchy) out of a few empty rocks with two dragons. So probably not.
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>>222398102
>/got/hotd/dunk/
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>>222398289
he has already shown me some chapters that he has written and i know, that is exactly what happens to him
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>>222398249
Considering how easily Dany ran through essos, I don’t see why not. Essos couldn’t even deal with the Dothraki outside of bribing them to go away
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>>222398102
/ourguy/ dies tonight.
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>>222398331
which makes no sense, because they don't wear armor
also, didn't a group of like 3000 unsullied BTFO a dothraki horde lmao?
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>>222398342
It's saturday
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>>222398326
I saw those too, but he ended up not going with those because he really likes stephen dillanes portrayal in the show
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FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MIND

GO
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>>222398390
doesn't matter, he dies either way
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Not enough nude ladies in this season. Amgry
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>>222398403
Elia sand needs to get dicked down
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For me, it's that skinny whore running the vale.
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>>222398403
RAPE
>2nd thing
RATCATCHERS
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>>222398403
pile of dragon poo that Baela and Adamm were next to that will be thrown at Ormund
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>>222398499
Sexual intercourse with mommy Jeyne Arryn
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>>222398519
DO NOT RAPE THE RATCATCHERS!
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>>222398403
twunny gudmen
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>>222398403
Hess is a nazi
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>>222398403
respected musician andrew biersack clogging throtes
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>aegon carries s3
He's in the show for like 5min, no matter how much we like him he can't carry this watery dogshit by himself.
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>>222398331
The Ghiscari cities in Slaver's Bay aren't as experienced with war as the Free Cities though. There's a lot of emphasis in the books on how their walls are poorly maintained and manned and how their commanders don't know what they're doing, while the Free Cities have plenty of experience and at least their fleets seem quite competently ran.
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>>222398499
>>222398528
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>>222398403
You bumming Ulf because let's face it the guy's a born catcher.
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>>222398499
>>222398528
>>222398601
IMAGINE the deepthroats
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>>222398592
The showrunners' carefully weighed decision. All other characters have been watered down into nothing; they can't compete with the absolute aura of Aegon II
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>>222398592
I literally only watch the Aegon scenes (and this season ormund was good too) and skip through everything else
And here I am talking about the show, he’s carrying 100%
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He comes....
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>POV: your Tully wife is asking you to breed her again even though you already have seven healthy kids
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>>222398644
A marriage between aegon and rhaeynerya would have saved the realm. Imagine the incestous hatesex
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>>222398403
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>>222398653
No, no, no!
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>>222398595
I think Ghiscar is one of those weird cities where the only actual treat they’ve faced since the Valyrians fell is dothraki, and they just pay them off and use some unsullied

Literally everyone else they’d fight are slave revolts. Their main Neighbor are the fucking lamb people who are pacifists they rape and enslave
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>>222398664
They would've been a pretty good king and queen together, though almost exclusively because Otto would've been running the kingdom like he did for their father.
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>>222398666
devilish
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>>222398663
begone family destroying wench
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>>222398685
>>222398664
Yikes, Rhaenyra with her nuncle? I think not
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how come valyrians had dragons and magic and shit yet they didnt subjugate westeros or essosi china and were just breeing dark magic flesh burrowing worms on their little peninsula instead?

romans stopped their conquests because there is only so much land a rider can cover, which wouldn't be a problem for dragons
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>>222398663

Why are Tully girls always so horny?
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Is HOTD Alicent the worst character in all ASOIAF television? She must be.
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>>222398663
>POV: your Tully wife
That one doesn't look fertile enough
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do you think targs all eat mercury?
they are degenerates that spend half of their lives in brothels and mercury was used as anti-std remedy and it also cause people to behave like retards
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>>222398731
They literally couldn’t conquer braavos so they had limits

The actual lore reason no Valyrians touched Westeros while the empire wws alive was a well known sorcerer prophecy about how Lannister good will be he downfall of valyria

What exactly this means is obviously vague, but the implication is this is actually the downfall of the Targaryens given Tywins actions
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>>222398731
They feared the maeasters.
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>>222398731
Prophecy Cold War
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>>222398769
Lannister gold I mean
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>>222398769
>>222398770
>>222398782
what about yi ti then?
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>>222398760
I still think Mysaria and Shae are worse. I skip all their scenes
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>>222398731
Ancient valyrians did try to colonize Westeros, they became the Hightowers though and allied with the children of the Forrest and used black magic to protect Westeros from dragons
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>>222398794
Not enough poppy
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>>222398760
They should've had Criston ask her the same thing before departing for Harrenhal with Gwayne.
Fucking witch.
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>>222398102
Can we PLEASE get more Mysaria scenes? They're soooo good.
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>>222398794
The (((targ))) fears the samurai
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>>222398794
It’s so far away most people do not even have concrete info. Same as asshai

Even with dragons it’s difficult to administer regions this large

It’s why Westeros is actually more like seven different kingdoms ruling themselves while paying lip service to the iron throne

Meanwhile, the vast majority of Valyrian dragonrider families stayed in valyria. Probably because it’s full of volcanos and magic.

You can’t raise dragons well outside of volcanos. So there’s not many places to live well. Dragonstone was a rare one and it’s a desolate island
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I NEED a Mysaria funko pop
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>>222398762
Kote is mine. Stop posting.
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>>222398829
>Can we PLEASE get more Mysaria scenes? They're soooo good.
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>>222398762
anyone have a paper bag
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>>222398852
for me, it's the Crabfeeder. But of course I have them all on my Funko wall
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>>222398852
Anon…Don’t fuck a piece of plastic, anon…
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Bratty bitch didn't want to see Asshai with daddy Criston.
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what thr fuck did that hack ryan condal do prior to this show?
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>>222398403
Threesome with olivia and monke
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>>222396345
poor Tycho, dude probably celebrated with his family after getting that promotion to manage the Westeros account. He had no clue what he was getting in to
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My headcanon is that most dragons were very small horse sized at most but after the doom the few remaining dragons started getting beefed to from all that dark magic funneling into just them. The Targs started to realize how powerful they were getting and decided to conquer Westeros with them.
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>>222398930
We know that’s not true though,

A) Balerion was the only pre doom dragon alive and was the biggest ever seen, no post doom dragon was ever as big as Balerion. Vhagar is the biggest post doom dragon and it’s like a third the size of

B) the Targaryens are not actually very elite in terms of Valyrians. They’re one of the smaller dragon riding houses. The only reason they survive is some prophecy helping them avoid the doom. So it’s a case of them having weaker dragons but it’s still better than no dragons
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>>222398975
Is his growth ever talked about though? Maybe he only grew after the fact. There's no real reasoning that Valryia shouldn't have conquered the entire world worh their thousands of dragons if the Targs only needed 3 to conquer Westeros. Only way I could logically explain it is maybe they werent as strong pre doom
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>>222398249
Essos' problem is that they don't have the fanatic martial culture of Westeros, even if they could produce those numbers none of them would be trained well or willing to fight to the death. The Golden Company gets their ass kicked every time they go to Westeros but are considered the top mercenary company in Essos by far. The fact they let themselves get bullied by the Dothraki rather than fighting back tells you all you need to know

>>222398346
give me a GOT sequel of Jon taking the surviving wildlings to Essos and genociding the Dothraki and colonizing the formerly rich lands of the Dothraki Sea. A semi-disciplined army and wildling skinchangers would make quick work of them
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>>222398666
This is what Sarah Hess saw when she (allegedly) read the Princess and the Queen
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>>222398829
Agreed.
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Are you guys STRAPPED in for the season's finale?
>What would he have them do?
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>>222398102
>The entire first battle of Tumbleton was written out of the story.
>Instead, it was peacefully occupied by the greens offscreen.
In exchange, we got more scenes of Rhaenyra and Alicent talking that weren't even alluded to in any of the books. God this is so shit. Why couldn't we get a decent adaptation? It's a high budget show with millions of viewers.
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>>222398930
No Balerion was like the typical dragon size of old valyria some might have been bigger. Frankly my headcanon or more like obvious reality is the Valyrians didn't really need to conquer any farther. Yi Ti probably sent them tribute and that appeased them. Westeros was a backwater full of weird shit.

Valyrians were mostly scheming against each other there were probably many civil wars that did not go recorded. All they really needed were slaves and western essos provided an unlimited number. They wanted for nothing else.
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>>222399058
The Valyrians were a people steeped in magic and prophecy. They stayed away from Westeros because a well known prophecy said Lannister gold would destroy the Valyrians (and honestly there’s not much of value in Westeros for valyria outside of that). Their current empire provided everything they needed

Also they couldn’t conquer braavos. They weren’t that powerful.

A major reason they seemed to even have an empire was to get access to slaves, not as Labour but to sacrifice to fuel their magic including dragons
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>>222398731
they obviously attempted it based on Dragonstone's location, but gave up on the attempt. My guess is they got their dragons stolen by skinchangers or children of the forest and gave up on it
>>222398808
>empire of the dawn
>valyrians
kek, Valyrians were degenerate retards who tried to emulate them by brute force blood magic which obviously ended up exploding in their faces. Westeros had stories of dragons from before Valyria existed, Valyrian dragons were blood magic abominations trying to replicate natural dragons. Even their "bond" is a shitty attempt to replicate wargs/skinchangers. Valyrian steel was a shitty attempt to emulate swords like Dawn. Valyrians were LARPers
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>>222399204
They didn’t even have an ending last season because it was too expensive, so no
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>>222399206
>Also they couldn’t conquer braavos. They weren’t that powerful.
good point

i mean why would it take 5 wars to beat the ghiscari?
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>>222399277
Dubs of trvke
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>wife has terminal cancer
>out gallivanting with Shae, de Funny Whore

I guess the author who writes about cucking would end his wife's life with cuckoldry.
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reminder that Truefyre is the rightful line, one of the people, caring for the people
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>>222398158
Hes never finishing the books so the God's ending is as Canon as can be. Thats all you get, FoReVeRrrRrrr
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>>222399277
Dragonstone was only occupied by the Targaryens after Daenys the Dreamer, a Targaryen woman, had a prophecy about the doom of Valyria. House Targaryen then relocated out of Valyria to Dragonstone to avoid dying

If I recall the prophecy was in like 120 before Aegons conquest, and the doom happened a few years later in like 114

So they barely avoided it and it’s clear why the Targaryens would value prophecy so highly from that.

Plus, bear in mind House Velaryon already existed on Driftmark long before this, and they were an old Valyrian house, but NOT dragon riders. So it seems likely that when the head of hosue Targaryen got the info that valyria was doomed, he asked around for relocation advice, talked to a Velaryon who would naturally know there’s a volcano island right next to them.

Plus dragonstone is desolate. Outside of a volcano it’s not valuable. Not good for agriculture. So nobody would really care about it prior
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>>222399205
A Valyrian dragonrider was already empress of Yi Ti so there was no need for that.
>Chai Duq, the fourth of the yellow emperors, married a noblewoman of Valyria, and kept a dragon at his court.
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>>222398403
Sir Robert STRONK
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Why weren't houses that supported the Faith Militant against House Targaryen attainted and destroyed?

>House Blanetree
>House Falwell
>House Lorch
>House Terrick
>House Wayn
>House Lychester
>House Tully

To say nothing of houses that outright murdered Targaryen kings like Maekar and Daeron.

Why was House Targaryen unable to exact revenge?
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>>222399332
which one's shae?
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>>222399332
She pity fucked him once after hearing him moan about being a sexless incel all his life and now she’s stuck with his needy ass. He probably told her he would kill himself if she stopped talking to him
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>>222399295
This is something a lot of people underestimate. If people are genuinely determined to resist dragons, they can. They may not “win” in terms of a counter attack but they can certainly make it not worth attacking them

Every single example we actually have of dragons being super effective in combat and war, is only an example of that specific dragonrider being smart and tactical.

Just like regular nobles vary from smart war tacticians to retards. So would dragon riders.

It’s why Aegon the conqueror was super successful… but he still failed to conquer all of Westeros. His sister still lost her dragon and got felled by some Dornish house.

Given how important bloodlines and blood magic is to Valyrians, where you HAVE to have a lot of magical blood or dragons are useless. Losing a dragonrider is a massive loss in investment too. So how much do you really wanna risk endless expansionist wars when a random arrow can kill you like anyone else?

Dragons often seem more like a sign of power, prestige and legitimacy than overly useful in maintaining power at a certain point. Dragonrider cannot stay awake 24/7 or stay with their dragon 24/7. So like all men they can be stabbed in their sleep. A reason braavos survived is the faceless men could kill Valyrians
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wtf didn't know George was still fucking Shae. Her rimjobs must feel like heaven
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>>222398760
Yes, absolutely. Vile treacherous whore who only wanted to maintain her own personal grip on power.
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>>222399354
I know the Dragonseeds are uncouth bastard peasants. But really?

The best they could come up with for names was “white”? “Hammer”?

Truefyre is a badass bastard name for a Valyrian bastard cadet branch
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>>222399332
His wife was allowed to fuck whoever she wanted their entire marriage, George deserves a little fun too
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>>222399474
imagine she says "i'm shae the rimming whore" before she sticks her tongue in
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>>222399519
i forgot that in the books hugh and ulf are from dragonstone and not king's landing
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>>222399407
Because the reconciliation was essentially the Targaryens admitting the faith was right and therefore the rebels were right
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>>222399519
they are nameless bastards bro the white and hammer are better than sand and snow when you're a dragon rider.
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>>222399519
Larys probably came up with truefyre given his fingerprints are all over the peasant revolt
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>I shall light a candle for her when next I attend the sept.
What's her problem?
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>>222399474
he definitively fucked her
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>>222399465
Targs/Valyrians were retarded for not marrying Starks. A rider is the biggest weakness of a dragon, meanwhile a Stark could just fucking warg the thing and control it perfectly without needing verbal commands. No rider means it can even fly more effectively
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>>222399608
>yeah no we are not going to anoint you :)
>AAAAH RHAENYRA SAVE US!
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>>222399608
Rhaenyra the type of whore to not care when a whore gets raped
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>>222399332
>puts out a blog 2 days ago about "woe is me, life is so depressing, don't blame me for not writing"
>gets on a plane to hang out with his favorite whore at a play instead of writing or spending time with his dying wife
peak boomer
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>>222399628
We don’t really hear much about wargs actually existing in the recent history for starks so I doubt they could have

Like, bran and others warning is meant to;be a weird sign that magic is returning
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>>222399642
So she’s punishing the peasants because the high septon asked if there was proof Aegon was dead?

Rhaenyra the cruel
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>>222399608
>>222399689

She can't protect them but she expects them to pay her homage lol
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>>222399332
D’ya think George has watched any of the numerous scenes showing Sibel Kikelli taking a cock up her arse?
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Aegon the Resurrected
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I like the greens because the green banner with golden dragon is nicer looking then the black with red dragon :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cagQ7pqkTK8

They had to change the story from the books as they couldn't fit everything in due to finite resources, but once you think about it, you realize it's a problem they brought upon themselves. If the story had not be changed, they wouldn't have needed to film the useless dragon fight scene, which adds nothing to the story.
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>>222399554
They're all supposed to be bastards from Dragonstone yeah, but Kingslanding having some Valyrian looking people wouldn't be that far off either since Gaemon and Trystane's mothers are from there and book Mysaria also lived there, show also added Dyana as well.
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Green and gold are good guy colors
Black and red are villain colors
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>Stated reason for cutting Nettles is that they didn't want a story about infidelity with Rhaenyra and Daemon
>Rhaenyra proceeds to cheat with another woman
???
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Is there a single woman in the world of Westeros worth going to war for? Or are they all whores and traitors?
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>>222399771
based retard
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>>222399790
Rhaenyra is finding herself

Daemon would just be cheating
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>>222399760
When you realise that on top of just affairs with commoners, for most of history westerosi lords incouding dragonstone, just had the right of Prime Noctae, right of the first night to bed peasants marrying who live on your land, it makes sense why dragonstone has so many bastard Valyrians. The way they describe it in the book the little village/town on dragonstone has a ton of people with valyrian features

Helps that the common people thought they were magic so they were into it thinking it gave their kids favour while in most of Westeros it’s just legalised rape

For some reason I thought Gaemon Palehair and Trystane Truefyre were actually heavily hinted to be bastard kids of characters during the dance of the dragons. I think one of them was implied to be Aegon II’s bastard
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>>222399825
Meera Reed
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>>222399825
>Maddie Tully
the absolute FOOKIN legend
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>>222399376
Are there still dragons in Yi Ti then?
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>>222399825
Westeros only has slags.
I'd never leave Lys
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>>222399831
Sounds like men just aren't allowed have fun.
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>>222399825
None in house of the dragon. Its written by women (Sara Hess and her cuck slave Ryan Condal) so it depicts all women as whores and traitors. Women hate women more then men do because they are competition.
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>>222399474
this age gap is so fucking kino
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>>222398326
Oh fuck off Preston, you glownigger faggot
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>>222399474
Who knows, she might be single-handedly keeping him alive.
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>>222399842
Gaemon was some Lyseni sailor's kid, his mom claimed he was Aegon's until she ended up confessing the truth under torture.
Trystane claimed he was VizzyT's son.
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>>222399858
total belter death
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>>222399903
some women like them fat old and hairy
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>>222399908
stop coping, your bald husband dies
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>>222399790
Nettles only distinguishing characteristic was that she's a token black to appease SJWs, instead they turned the whole Velaryon line black it was redundant.
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>>222399939
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>>222399936
I think gaemon actually was Aegons son and that’s why he spared his life and made him a ward of the crown
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>>222399665
>magic supposedly only faded after the dragons died off less than 2 centuries ago
>skinchangers common enough for them to have shared rules and meetups with the wildlings
>crannogmen obviously have them
>Starks historically associated with Direwolves, creatures that not even a strong skingchanger like Varamyr was able to claim
seems more like GRRM not thinking about his worldbuilding in the early days, "warg" isn't even used in the first book. Then in Clash we've got all the veteran rangers instantly recognizing Jon as a warg, despite Benjen noticing nothing in book 1. And Bloodraven being a powerful skinchanger even after the dragons died, so you can't even use Dany bringing them back as a cope.
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>THERE GOES MY KING
>WATCH HIM AS HE GOES
>THERE GOES MY KING
>HE'S EXTRAORDINARY
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Will there be another season of HotD? Its impossible to finish the series in 1 more epsode without it being completely shit
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>>222400019
Magic was fading ever since the doom of Valyria. It’s why all post doom dragons are smaller
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>>222400019
norfs have a higher connection to magic because of the wall, milisandre said her magic was stronger when she was at the wall.
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>>222400028
No there is 1 more season
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>>222400028
they said the want to do 4 seasons
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>>222399608
>
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>>222398144
That's a Mayan.
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>>222400008
Gaemon was 4/5 years old when Aegon retakes KL, he wasn't going to kill a toddler. He might've been vengeful but fatman wrote him to actually be capable of being merciful at times, he also allowed Trystane to be knighted as a last wish before being executed.
Also Aegon's bastards are actually known and listed so it doesn't make much sense.
Show probably won't give a fuck and will turn him into Dyana's child that she didn't get rid off with Alicent's moon tea, and Sylvie will be the one pulling her strings.
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>>222400065
All the locations that were built with magic make magic users stronger

Melisandre said the swme thing at storms end when she made a shadow baby. Both storms end and the wall were supposedly made with magic by bran the builder along with other places
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>>222400027
Power couple.
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>>222400167
>supposedly
factually
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>>222400175
Allegedly maybe

I believe they were made with magic but not all by bran the builder. He’s just a convenient character to claim did a lot of stuff because he’s so far back there’s no records and he’s more of a legend
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>>222399608
Thoughts and prayers.
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>>222400210
factually that's the will of fat fuck
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It’s weird to imagine this Aegon having sex with Halaena. Do you think he got naked servant girls to help him get hard while she was being autistic?
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>>222400247
Im sure he was too drunk to notice it was her
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>>222399628
that's what we really needed, fucking Starks warging into dragons. It is not enough to only have an omniscient seer and super terminator that can solo major houses with little difficulty. Honestly we should have given Robb super saiyan too so he could power slide across Westeros, crashing directly though the gates of king's landing and slamming into Cersei, literally bodyslamming her into a red stain on the castle walls.
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>>222400335
>that's what we really needed, fucking Starks warging into dragons
If you're a targaryan yes that's exactly what they need, I'm sure jon will warg a dragon eventually
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>>222400247
He had to get drunk to do it(the book actually says so I think) and she probably just stared autistically into the void while starfishing.
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>>222400361
i dont even think the starks need the targs for this. Can't the starks just warg into the dragons and become the new targs?
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THE
SLOP
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>>222400393
mayhaps
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>>222400027
>burn the mall
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>>222399474
Reminder George is fucking this.
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>It's a Rhaenyra and Alicent in a room together talking about nothing scene
>It's a Rhaenyra and Mysaria n a room together talking about nothing scene
>It's a Mysaria and Alicent in a room together talking about nothing scene
Please god, make it stop. Make it end.
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>>222399934
kek
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>>222400335
all starkshits should die
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>>222400416
Everybody has seen her take dick already
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>When the Hightower pussy is just too good.
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>>222398322
as you said, he couldnt do anything agaisnt a small force in some protected rocks in a localized conflicts, an open total war agaisnt any free city wouldnt have the same result
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Guests' Right is so fucking retarded.

>Oh I gave you food, that means I can't hurt you

Fuck off
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>now I need a name for that house of Hispanic brown troublemakers... hmm, House Cartell it is.
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>>222400631
That's an Arryn for sure
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>>222400647
Stfu Walder, you little faggot.
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>young Rhaenyra
>badass, bold, determined
>old Rhaenyra
>weak, sniveling, indecivise
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>>222398663
>brown eyes
Thats n Tully.
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>>222400680
When women have kids they become shrews
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>>222400523
Ever since the Beschdel test meme got popularized writers went insane about shoehorning in these terrible scenes.
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>Ormund, would you like to see the tapestries gifted from Norvos and Qohor?
>Indeed I would princess, that sounds incredible I love tapestries
if only they had met that day in the garden Ormund and Rhaenyra may have been wed and this may all yet have been avoided
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>The House of Mysaria, and maybe some dragons
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>>222400834
Fuck the Hightowers they should have been banished from court.
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>>222400631
based hightower princess
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>>222400834
i miss her, she was so good looking, now we have the walled whore
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>>222400834
>Indeed I would princess, that sounds incredible I love tapestries
he is such a faggot lmao
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>>222400834
crazy how the alicents have always mogged the rhaenyras
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>>222400929
idk I think adult rhaenyra is sexier when she tries
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>>222400929

Because the target audience are women that will read the mid protagonists more attractive rival as being more threatening and more satisfying when she eventually gets BTFO.
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>>222400949
right now rhaenyra is mogging the fat, weird alicent but back in s1 alicent mogged her hard
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>>222400335
sorry targshits and andalcucks, you have to go back. This here be First Men clay, go back to your shithole countries essosi scum
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>>222401030
trvke
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>>222400929
It's telling that Hess reacted so negatively in the interview where they talked about fans like Alicent, and subsequently Alicent is done up to look weird lol
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>>222398249
They could conquere a city or two but they wouldnt survive for long
The dragons help when you're fighting, but you cant sleep on the dragon, you cant be on the dragon 24/7, you cant rule from a dragon
The faceless men dont fuck around when it comes to dragonlords. They collapsed the valyrian empire already. They'd kill two edgelords for free
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>>222400929

Rhaenyra is just way less interesting of a character. Alicent growing up as a docile but well meaning girl gaslighted by everyone in her life gives the actress way more emotional range to experience with. What is complex about Rhaenyra? "Oh no I'm a whore and I don't like the consequences."
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Beneath the cope, the bitter seethe
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>>222401065
shut up you tree demon worshipping FREAK
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>>222400929
It fits.

Alicent ages gracefully like a fine wine, while Nyra gets fat, ugly and psychotic.
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>>222401098
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>>222401115
Yeah they definitely nailed the inbred look for young and old Rhaenyra. Weird deformations and either FAS or male traits for each one. Emma is arguably the ugliest of the lot.
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>>222400834
>starts up wearing blue
>black and red after marriage
>after betrayal wears green
I love color kino
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>>222401096
>they collapsed the valyrian empire already
wait, the faceless men caused the Doom?
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>>222401145
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>>222401147
she was wasted on viserys
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>>222401174
Yeah. The faceless men are former valyrian slaves who were killing off the fire mages who kept the 14 flames in check.
when enough mages were killed, the entire peninsula went BOOM
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t
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>>222401209
Should have married a handsome Mormont from bear island.
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>>222401202
Hunter Schaefer should play Daemon II
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making Alicent and Cole together was a massive mistake that proved the writers do not understand these characters or how characters with their values would behave
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>>222401202
im starting a petition to cast Hunter as one Aegon's sisters
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>>222401229
nah they're incel losers lol
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>>222401202
That's a man.
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>>222401105
>valyria a smoking ruin, punished by the gods for their degeneracy and hubris
>Wall and Winterfell built thousands of years before Valyria even existed
>still standing strong
>andalcucks not even worth mentioning, never built anything of note
OH NONONONONO
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>>222401271
Don't speak that way about Queen Rhaeynra the First of Her Name
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in 24 hours, it still wont be time to watch the finale
food for thought
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>Alicent understand Rhaenyra better than anyone.

ALICENT THE PERCEPTIBLE INSIGHTFUL DOWAGER QUEEN
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THE REACH BELONGS TO THE FORNSWORN!!!
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Does anyone have a part 2?
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I'm rewatching S1 and Alicent's character is so wildly different that it doesn't even feel like the same person. She's matronly, cold, haughty, and insanely protective of her family. Why did the writers abandon this and make her into an emotionally incontinent schizo who hates her sons?
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Why the fuck is there 0 iconic music anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhYZpTCyz3w

They just fucking gave up
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>>222401667
chuds btfo
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>>222401593
>Ormunds body is missing
They realized they have 0 actual compelling villains and they still need him
They'll fucking turn him into the shepard, just watch
>just one Aegon scene again
Burn this trash heap of a show
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>>222401541
never should have cum here!
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Nettles was not a particularly interesting character in the text, and I am tired of pretending she was
now Rhaena is even more boring, but that's a different matter
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>>222401744
Nobody is particularly interesting in f&b, the issue is that Condal is just doing random changes
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>>222401744
nettles, rhaena and baela were always superfluous

nettles at least serves a minor plot point
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>>222401631
if you're wondering what Aegon is listening to at the moment of that webm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us_T4zUnW40
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>>222401593
>ormund is the Shepard
Hahaha that’s pretty epic
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The death of Jaehaera is one of the biggest mistakes GRRM did storywise.
Her marrying Aegon III and continuing the legacy but losing the entire source of power is way more kino
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>>222401811
George is a truly cruel guy
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>>222401811
it's kinda moot anyway since the Targaryen dynasty continues through Viserys and Larra
but yeah, killing Jaehaera is a certified fat hack moment
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>>222401593
>visenya's armour
>ancient
reminds me of when people where the ancient uniforms of wwi soldiers
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>>222401808
If ormund actually comes back in season 4 as a disfigured madman and rallies the people to storm the dragonpit he will be the greatest game of thrones character of all time
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>>222401593
fake

Rhaenyra would NEVER let a random prostitute who was known to belong to her husband crown her. She'd be mocked endlessly for that.
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>>222401593
2 different series of leaks?
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>>222401593
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honestly the show not even attempting to make Aegon the Younger an actual character is what annoys me the most
his life is what reflects what a shitshow the Dance was
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>>222401944
He and jaehaera should’ve gotten a bit more time if they’ll end it at their wedding.
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>>222401858
Well it's moot because she died. If she did not die so young they may have had children together
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>>222401944
Hard to have child characters when seasons come every two years and their actor looks completely different
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>>222401593
Have literally any of these "leaks" ever been right?
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>>222401985
yeah but the point is that even with Daenera (which is the Jaehaera replacement) their kids die without offspring, so the Targ dynasty does not descend from them
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>>222401593
>>222401896
>>222401908
QUICK, FIND THE SCENES ON THE PREVIEW!
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>>222398249
Volantis has the strongest land army, so presumably it's also the most numerous. Braavos has the strongest navy, but probably not that many land troops, considering its secure location and the fact they exert some influence over Pentos and Lorath
Countryside around Qarth is pretty barren. It doesn't seem like they have large army and the city is dominated by three merchant guilds. They do have over 2500 ships, from what I recall, since Xharo gives Dany specific numbers
Three Daughters likely have far less troops. They lost Stepstones against Daemon and Sea Snake and are said to rely heavily on mercenary companies and from what we see in Meereen, those aren't huge
30K in Mantarys? You just want to see a huge army of mutants
Overall, I would slash all those numbers to one third of what you have here. We do not see those huge armies anywhere in the books
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>his granddaughter ends up being the queen
APOLOGIZE
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>>222401744
It was an interesting premise.

Like virtually every fantasy/historical story, there really aren't many outsider or lower-class characters who make any difference to anything. This is somewhat realistic, but it's always disappointing. Book accurate Nettles would have been real diversity that isn't commonly seen in these stories.

That said, Ulf the White is kind of a good example of an outsider or lower-class character, even if he is just one generation down from Targ royalty.
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blackus niggus
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>>222398794
There's Valyrian noblewoman who married the emperor of China
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Chai_Duq
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>>222401811
it was always pretty pointless and kinda fucked up daeron and baelor
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>>222401808
>>222401872
They'll never let Ormund be the Shepherd.
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>>222401858
>>222402021
He should have made jaehaera be the father of Baelor the blessed at least, why would a targ king be so faithful if he didn’t defend from Hightowers
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>>222402368
both of aegon iii's sons seem like reachmen, with baelor being religious and daeron (strangely named after daeron the daring) wanting to conquer the dornish
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>>222401281
>frozen tree demon wall that causes the long winters still standing strong
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>>222400523
Fucking gay waste of time when there was so much else they could've done.
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>>222402309
Why not, James Norton is kino
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Is Ormund related to Tormund from the main series?
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>>222402554
Ormund is Tormund but with low-T
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>>222402566
>giant's babe who said that another man is the king of his ass
>high T
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Alys-Aemond baby when?
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>>222402661
Pussy bitch can't fuck. Rather cuddle with a prostitute.
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>>222402661
Alaemond
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>>222402021
>their kids die without offspring
No!
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>>222402661
>Alys baby reveal
>Jon Snow north soundtrack plays
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>>222402368
>made jaehaera be the father
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>>222402693
Why is Amanda Holden wearing plate armour?
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>>222402899
One Chin to rule them all
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>>222402899
he reminds me of mr hickey
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>>222398102
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what african civilization did grrm base summer islanders on?
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>>222402899
Taooba?
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Shepherd looking good
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>>222403014
They're not based on anything specific, the Summer Isles are just exotic for the sake of it.
Your video is hot though.
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>>222403014
she looks like she likes white men
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>>222403024
ONLY BLOOD CAN QUENCH THE FIRES OF THE DRAGON
MY BLOOD
YOUR BLOOD
THEIR BLOOD
KILL THEM
KILL THEM ALL
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>>222403117
my fucking hero...
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>>222403024
>>222403117
I can't tell if people like him because they're gay or not
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>>222403117
this shit is so stupid its kino
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>>222403014
>>222403110
>why do you not worship the god of love, LIKE VE DO IN ZE SUMMER ISLANDS?
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>>222403014
wakanda, and I'm not even being ironic, gurm was/is a comic book nerd
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So the finale is just the battle of Tumbleton plus Halaena suicide?
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>>222403188
what else would you have them do?
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I declare this thread blackfyre-pilled
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fat fuck owes me winds.
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I fought the Targs and the Targs won
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>>222403376
did they?
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>>222403422
yes
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>>222403376
who was the last truly fromidable Targ warrior? Rhaegar is just a lame Gary Stu, so discounting him it's Maekar I suppose?
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>>222403376
imagine an alternate universe where the Ninepenny Kings won and this fucking freak who murdered his own brother has to try and rule Westeros
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>>222403422
young griff is the son varys (she/her)
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>>222403436
did they tho?
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>>222403476
Son if Illyrio not Varys
Varys was castrated as a child
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>>222403496
yes
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>>222403516
but did they?
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>>222403512
I said son of varys as in varys is the mother. I did not imply who the father is (it's illyrio)
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>>222403532
yes
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>>222403556
but did they really?
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>>222403573
yes
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varys lies about being an eunuch
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varys likes to be an eunuch
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>>222403585
>Blackfyre conquering in westeros
>no targs in westeros
I just dont see it
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I thought varys was a merman
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>>222403605
>Blackfyre conquering in westeros
forced to larp as a targ to get any kind of support lmao so no they blackcucks are not conquering westeros
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What did Olivia mean by this?
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The Shepherd - Three potential candidates - all just a theory

First potential candidate for the role of the Shepherd - Larys Strong

Larys has now departed from King Aegon saying that "it will be my duty to see that King Aegon is remembered. His heroic last hours immortalised through story and song". So it sounds like Larys is going to start preaching about Aegon, spreading propaganda about how good and brave he was and no doubt at the same time preach as the Shepherd did about how vile Rhaenyra is.

The Shepherd preaches to the people that when the dragons come their flesh will blister and turn to ash, it would make sense for Larys to be the one saying this having seen the extent of Aegon’s injuries from Rook’s Rest. The Shepherd is linked to the faith of the Seven of which Larys is a follower, when departing from King Aegon, Larys said to him “May the seven be ever at your side”.
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>>222403470
The Band of Nine had basically no chance of even getting to Westeros, but if Maelys actually managed to enter King's Landing his brief reign would be hilarious. He'd probably get torn apart limb by limb by the smallfolk of Flea Bottom. Might try it in ck2.
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fAegon is going to die and it's going to be Tyrion's fault because the halfman is malding about his sister.
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>>222403586
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I don't read ai slop
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Why do the show runners hate color?
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>>222403617
like jorah said
the people dont give a shit
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>>222403664
if they don't give a shit why is he larping as a targ? curious...
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>>222403631
Second potential candidate - Ormund Hightower

So I was rereading Fire and Blood the other day and I noticed the language of the Shepherd in the book and the language of Ormund in the show is similar. The Shepherd tells people that Rhaenyra is a vile and unnatural Queen who is tainted with the blood of her own sister (after Helaena’s death). He calls for the destruction of Rhaenyra and tells the people that dragons are unnatural monsters and the only way they can make the city their own is to slay the dragons, that the only thing that can save them is the Mother’s mercy.

The Shepherd says that Valyria was a vile cesspit were sister lay with brother and mother with son. He was enraged by the death of Queen Helaena and he leads the storming of the dragonpit and according to some accounts the Shepherd was the one who drew his sword and slew Syrax.

Ormund detests the Targaryens and their dragons, "the obscenity of their dragons" he said after he spoke of Meria Martell. He even told Daeron not to be affectionate towards Tessarion. “I have warned you against indulging in affection towards that beast”. He tells Daeron that he is a good boy because he speaks kindly and says his prayers and that he has raised him in the light of the seven and the father smiles upon him but that his blood his tainted by his Targaryen side.

Ormund says “The Targaryens are a savage race, poor in intellect but rich in cunning. With dark spells they created abominations to subdue what was rightfully ours. We are the superior men but against that we could not stand.” He said that Rhaenyra being on the iron throne was a desecration without propriety or reason and he is convinced that Aegon and Aemond are both lost because of their Targaryen side, being dragon riders and raised away from the faith of the seven and Oldtown.
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>>222403662
>when the cake has a comically large stick of dynamite in it instead of a candle
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>>222403662
Just fuck my shit up senpai
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>>222403683
The Shepherd does preach against both Aegon and Rhaenyra saying that "the false king and whore queen shall be cast down with their works and their dragons, only by cleansing kings landing of dragons and their masters could westeros hope to avoid the fate of Valyria”. The Shepherd also refuses to repent when brought before Aegon and cursing him too. Dragons from both sides were killed in the storming of the dragon pit.

Let’s say that this could happen if somehow Ormund is injured at Tumbleton but not killed but everyone else at the time presumes that he has been killed. He learns that Daeron has been killed at Tumbleton and flips his lid because his pet project and doorway to ruling Westeros is gone. Maybe he somehow makes his way to King’s Landing to his spies there and begins preaching to the people to ensure they still turn against Aegon and Rhaenyra and destroy the dragons on both sides.

Granted the similarities between the language and beliefs of Ormund and the Shepherd could just be because both are followers of the faith of the seven.

Third potential candidate and a bit of a wild card - Corlys Velaryon

After losing so much for the sake of Rhaenyra taking the throne, losing Rhaenys who fought for Rhaenyra and died, his daughter Laena, his son Laenor, most of his fleet and wealth, his granddaughter Rhaena and Baela not being treated well by Rhaenyra due to actions in an around the battle of the gullet and Rhaena exiling herself for a time. His brother being murdered in court and he himself having no choice but to accept a bastard as his heir, knowing well that none of Rhaenyra’s children where of his blood. Rhaenyra refusing to legitimise his sons after he fought for her in the battle of the gullet..

Perhaps the death of Addam in the next episode perhaps grief finally gets the better of Corlys and he remerges after Addam’s death as the Shepherd railing against both and bringing about the destruction of what destroyed his family.
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>>222403680
To feign legitimacy until he takes the throne
are you dumb?
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>>222403732
>until he takes the throne
>are you dumb?
ironic but not really surprising when it come to blackfyre shits in denial
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>>222403642
He's kind of an idiot for letting Tyrion bait him like that. Even if Dany was going to put him in the regent cuck chair.
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>>222403642
>fAegon is going to die and it's going to be Tyrion's fault
Only indirectly by telling him to go west instead of east. JonCon is going to hide Aegon among the smallfolk of King's Landing, like Robert hid from him in Stoney Sept, but then Daenerys is just going to burn down the city.
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taking webm requests, for the whole show s1-s3

result might not be immediate but i'll do it in the next few threads
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>>222403744
Its Daemons blood at the end of the day
Both the targs and the blackfyres lost their claim because of Robert.
He can claim to be the son of rhaegar because its closer to the previous regime compared to the rebellions.
He's a mummers dragon
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So I'm guessing the intent in the books is when Dany burns down King's Landing it's fAegon on the throne and not Cersei?
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>>222403797
yeah, the gilden company there suggests it
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>>222403792
he is a cuck larping as a targ until dany burn his ass

>>222403797
most likely
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I don't give a shit about faegon
if he was important he'd be in the show
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>gilden
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>>222403852
That's why he was removed his character doesn't really add nothing to the story and he will die anyway.
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>>222403797
Cersei is even more retarded in the books, she's not keeping the throne for that long. She'd probably deal with the High Sparrow and then Griff shows up and either kills her or kicks her ass out.
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>>222403797
Yeah, fAegon would be wasted if he isn't used as an obstacle for Dany. His claim is better, he has the support of Rhaegar's best friend, an army of knights instead of eunuchs and by the time Dany gets to Westeros he'll probably have a great marriage.
Meanwhile all Dany has going for her is dragons.
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>>222403885
dany will only have her black dragon
aegon will somehow get the green one
jon will get the white one
it's too obvious
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>>222403866
If he is just going to be the guy who's in charge of King's Landing when Dany burns it then yeah, he doesn't amount to much. The problem with his removal more then anything is it makes the shitty Dorne plot become even more pointless and shitty.
He's there to be the 3rd head of the dragon and a obstacle for Dany, as >>222403885 laid out. That's about it.
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>gelded company
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>>222403885
>Meanwhile all Dany has going for her is dragons
and that's enough to break him and his allies also he doesnt have a marriage he is waiting for dany

>>222403910
>it makes the shitty Dorne plot become even more pointless and shitty.
yeah but that's why the dorne plot was removed from the show
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>>222403908
>aegon will somehow get the green one
Might happen if they have a parlay on Dragonstone. Their final duel will of course be in the skies above KL.
I'm also convinced that Dany will marry Victarion.
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>>222403949
>might
will
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>>222403984
mayhaps...
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>>222403945
>and that's enough to break him and his allies
At the cost of making Dany seem like an eastern savage who murdered the rightful heir.
>he doesnt have a marriage he is waiting for dany
Arianne will seduce him.
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>>222403945
>yeah but that's why the dorne plot was removed from the show
I guess I just hallucinated Jamie and Bronn's magical journey to bad poosy then
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why do normies love daemon so much, genuinely?
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>>222403991
the green/black stuff is too deeply ingrained in the series, even tyrion has a green and a black eye, the second dance of the dragons between dany and aegon will have a green dragon vs black dragon
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>>222403885
>>222403797
Im going with altshift x and saying they’ll marry
Bringing branches together or some shit
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>>222404017
That's a different plot alogether
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>>222404068
lol no
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>>222403991
I must protest. Mayhaps on the morrow.... What would you have me do?
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>>222404089
>>222404089
>>222404089
Migrate, targshits.
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>>222404068
I don't see how they could marry before Arianne marries Aegon, she's a continent away and Aegon needs swords now
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>>222404020
cinematic propaganda techniques from the Soviet era



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