ITT: Books that can never be adapted into film
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>No!But seriously, Swan Song (1987)
>>222461004This one. Not because it would be technically impossible, but because I'll go to any length to prevent it.
>>222461004First couple chapters on The Finders stuff and that case in Belgium were the only good parts, the rest is leftist schizo conspiraslop
>>222461004A major studio would never produce a film or docuseries that treats this theory as something actually credibleWe already got an example of this with the Sons of Sam docuseries and Chaos (on Tom O'Neill's Manson book) docuseries (both of which have similar premises to Programmed to Kill). Sons of Sam somewhat makes the case for the multiple killers theory, but by the end inexplicably tacks on some statements that suggest the Maury Terry's theories on this were all wrong. With Chaos, it appears to have just been a smear job. Erroll Morris it turns out is an establishment hack after all and seems to have made the doc just to try to discredit Tom O'Neill's angle on Manson
>>222461004qrd? i don't read books nor will I ever
Not that it "couldn't" be done, but it's fucking cursed. Based ghost of Toole not letting hollywood fuck with his masterpiece.
>>222461462Why watch the film when you get to live it?
>>222461004For me, it’s the doc vids. They have that primitive youtube style that makes it very eeriehttps://rumble.com/v59swho-programmed-to-killsatanic-cover-up-part-2-jeffrey-dahmer-and-wayne-williams.html
>>222461153It just needs a grand project of several tv shows/movies where characters overlap and the only way to make sense of it is to watch it all or inevitable the 40h combination that puts it all chronologically. Scenes where addicts sit on toilet withdrawing taking up entire segments.
>>222461004It was already as adapted as well as it could be into True Detective season 1
>>222461739You mean season 2 dipshit
>>222461736it's like a CYOA taken to the extreme
>>222461888season 1 is about the weird murder rape cult that is secretly being supported by the elites, how the fuck do you not see that as an adaptation of "Programmed to Kill"?
>>222461004Confederacy of Dunces is a famous book people keep wanting to adapt but failing.
>>222461964True Detective season 1 even has it's own version of Marc Detroux, Reggie Ledoux
>>222461964Oh yea
>>222461004They could never make this into a movie, unfortunately. They're making a Tommy Taffy movie but I find it lame compared to Black Farm.
It's a meme by now, but I would like to see an adaptation of the Book of the New Sun just to see how they envision that world. It's not unadaptable, there's just so much Sylverian doesn't bother to describe because it's normal to him that someone would have to work on designs. Or do it straight where it's all again from his point of view and what doesn't bother him personally is irrelevant.
>>222461338Both chaos and the son of Sam book lead to nothing but dead ends. For example the murder at Stanford in the church was a cornerstone of the son of Sam cult theory but it was just the security guard who did it. The end of the manson book is just a collection of loose ends that lead nowhere
>>222462491Yeah but imagine if it didn'twouldn't that have been interesting
>>222462506I feel bad for Maury Terry (I think that's his name) he was a devout Catholic who thought he was doing something very important and studying the son of Sam thing basically took over his whole life
>>222461415I really need to go finish this.I got as far as him working the hot dog stand and havnt touched it in like 3 years.
>>222462491I think Maury Terry's mistake was just thinking it came down to "satanists" rather than considering that that might been just an element of or cover for some deeper kind of activity (to be fair he had admitted the thought crossed his mind but he couldn't know). The security guard could have been part of some network of shady assets but of course how could we know. I do think so much else that Terry spotted suggests something odd was weird around the Son of Sam thing Chaos I think has plenty to suggest there was funny business too. Just because we don't get the conclusive evidence and explanation on certain questions doesn't mean there isn't something odd thereThere are various odd things I've spotted before and while I understand I'll never get the particulars with regard to various questions, I can make out the faint silhouette and thereabouts of something and tell there is definitely a 'there' there
Hear me out...It's the Turner Diaries but all characters are played by Idris Elba.And by all characters I mean ALL including the extras.
>>222462602Produced by The Daily Wire
>>222461718>It just needs a grand project of several tv shows/movies where characters overlap and the only way to make sense of it is to watch it allHypothetically that could work, but I don't think there's anyone who could pull it off in a way that's both cohesive and nit watered down or tonally shifted. >or inevitable the 40h combination that puts it all chronologically. That would butcher the pacing and reveal too much, too soon.>Scenes where addicts sit on toilet withdrawing taking up entire segments.I wouldn't mind certain segments being done as isolated short films.
>>222463090>That would butcher the pacing and reveal too much, too soon.The master cut that's faithful would obviously also be done. As long as the stories are isolated to a movie or series it could work, there's a shitton of material to work with even if you don't adapt it all.
>>222463152And would keep the shit withdrawal scenes.
>>222462473I remember there being a German movie, from around 2010, that was set in late 1980s, and it was about a room full of bottoms at a weekend-long gay sex party who realize the guy who topped all of them is HIV-positive.
>>222463465whoowheee
>>222463465What’s it called? Shit sounds like a dark comedy
>>222461004schizo book
>>222461004on a releated note the franklin coverup would be a perfect movie. The fact that Alisa owens and Paul Bonacci were't celebs amoung the redpill movement and weren't interviewed by alex jones proves the movement is pozzed.
>>222463591alex jones is a misinformation agent posing as a truth teller
>>222463591Someone made a documentary about this.
It's a lot less fun to imagine books getting adaptions when you remember they'll all be bland like dunc
>>222463564Dilate
>>222461004Gor books.
>>222463749it's now obvious Daniel's making up his own version and I'm interested in how he carries it out. 2 was better than 1 for all the wrong reasons and I won't be satisfied with anything less than ghola of hayt and a bomb fucking muaddib off. but now the children aren't even there so what's his idea?
>>222461004I've had this pdf for like 15 years now its on the list to read but I dont what place exactly
>>222463465The best result for this chat gpt provides is a film called 66/67 Fairplay is Over about german soccer hooligans.Is this it?
>>222464177ill give you cliffs:>serial killers are former phoenix program vietnam vets and mk rejects>they work in organized satanic cults as contract killers and kidnappers, the ones who get caught dipped into their own supply one too many times>there is a police corruption coverup angle>they used to recruit and train new killers through extreme pornography mail order catalogues, bdsm, bondage, sadomasochism>organized crime plays a role in it and the corruption goes up to high political officehis evidence is too flimsy and circumstantial for normies to believe it. he covers a lot of major serial killers and how they were basically made into split personality psychopaths by extreme brainwashing during early childhood. you can watch patrick's programmed to kill youtube channel for more.
Books that can't be adapted because they're too offensive are boring. I prefer books that can't be adapted because of the way they're written
>>222463433Based and Ratnose pilled. Surprised I don’t see this one pop up here more often. You’re the first anon ive seen mention it, in fact. I tracked down a signed copy years ago.
>>222461004>>Books that can never be adapted into film>or TV
>>222461004Isn't this just the Manchurian Candidate but for realsies? In that sense then the book was adapted FROM a film
>>222461415>>222464432>Books that shouldn't be made into a movie
>>222461338>>222462491>>222462555>>222462595Terry raises legitimate questions when he's looking hard at details from the original murders, and from when he had contact with Berkowitz; but as soon as Berkowitz broke contact he started relying on nameless other sources who were obviously feeding him shit, and he went on weaker and weaker tangents and couldn't admit itHe overdosed on redpills, something we've all seen many timesFWIW unless I see a good rebuttal from police I think Terry was basically correct and Berkowitz didn't act aloneBut Terry's probably wrong that there's some huge superstructure of SatanistsI think a more productive and effective angle to take would've been to consider the investigation as an investigation of criminals rather than Satanists; the beliefs of the actors are immaterial, it is their actions that matter. This is why I propose "Satanic gangs" rather than "Satanic cults", because the latter forces focus onto nebulous beliefs, tracking which will too easily lead the investigator astray. Thank you for attending my TED talk
>>222463822Two movies were made.
>>222463591Good point. I've also seen a lot of spooky posters online persistently trying to discredit Bonacci as well as the Noreen Gosch accounts. The extra effort to me suggests there's something there.Same with the Maury Terry theory. Characters came out of the woodwork trying to debunk him in really flimsy ways. I consider the movie about Tom O'Neill's Chaos an effort to trash it tooAlso, that group of spooks who emerged to discredit the Satanic Ritual Abuse narrative were likely part of an operation to knock down a theory they themselves first erected that was meant to deflect from knowledge of Monarch, then making anything of that nature already be prima facie disbelievedAnything related to Dutroux tends to get erased tooIt's like there's an effort to try to go and paper over these little points where there had actually been a little unexpected glimpse at some of the uglier clandestine activities that really were never supposed to be get out (Monarch, trauma-based mind control, child blackmail operations, PtK-related activities, etc)Of course, now there are new types of activities, which I wont go anywhere near, certain tragic cultural phenomena that I consider to be artificially induced. The usual suspects, I believe (same as before)
>>222464605You could do something with Gravity's Rainbow. It'd lise some of the hallucinatory tone, but if you gave it to someone like, say, Gilliam, along with an unlimited budget and runtime, it could work.
bumpinski
>>222461004The 70s was the last time you could have made a Flashman movie
>>222466663there is also a foreign element here, the russians spent most of their espionage resources on trying to link us elites in government and military with satanism, because they estimated the lunatic fringe can be activated with another great awakening. this forces the nsa spooks to counter with an either/or control both sides of fake satanists and good guy investigators. it feeds the ego of every 'truthseeker' to adopt the morally superior position that they are correct, rather than the morally uncertain position that they are being deceived in the exact process of discovery they think they are undertaking. classic misdirection follow the white rabbit bullshit. it has worked well to break up local politics and national movements, there were all kinds of organized christian groups in the 50s-90s moral decency, television standards, nationwide boycotts etc. you can see it in comic books for example, which pre-code were quite edgy, and then they got tame and superheroes became the vehicle for selling them from the mid 50s. mass organization of grassroots movements work very well in american politics which is very open and reactive to public opinion, which is why shaping the public opinion is critical to get your ducks in a row.
The time to make it has long since passed, and I doubt it would be possible to to get across just how ambiguous The Kid's feelings are about situations anyway.
>>222467599I imagine they could really sand off the rough edges(his rapes) and just make him a handsome arrogant dude and they could coast off the OH MY GOD THE SHOW IS SO GOODDDDD BUT THE BOOKS ARE SO ICKYYYYY crowd.In Slow Horses Jackson Lamb's character is infinitely more racist and sexist(constantly making jokes about Standish and Taverner lezzing out, absolutely shitting on Shirley who is a lot more androgynous in the books and the poojeta who joins later) but they removed all that and everyone thinks Gary Oldman's the best part of the show.
>>222461079https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2397461/
>>222464404Huh I always found it interesting that Dennis Rader never killed until he came back to the US after tike in the airforce in Okinawa
>le satanismAlways a falseflag
>>222461736It needs poe on the soundtrack.
>>222461964Fun Fact>Marc Dutroux is still aliveNo cap fr fr broccoli hat
>>222461462It was partly adapted into a 1990 film called 'The March.'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17lniHSEEz0
>>222461004Extremely boring after the first chapter. Author never explains anything. 90% of the book is nothing but dry summaries of various murder cases with vague allusions to demonic worship.
>>222461004too many big weiners
>>222461736Isn't this just Backrooms with extra steps?
>>222469294this is 99% of all conspiracy lit. Fans of this genre are either mouth breathers or tankies
>>222461004Pale Fire, as a whole.Though the adventures of the zemblan prince could be a cool spinoff Wes Anderson joint.The depressing guy whose daughter kills herself or whatever wouldn't be very interesting to watch.
It seems weird that there hasn't been a serious cinematic attempt at a Paradise Lost adaptation yet.
>>222461736Pale Fire for zoomzooms
>>222461406serial killers are a result of government programs and the phoenix program out of vietnam specifically is responsible for the particularly large wave of serial killers seen in the 60s/70s/80s. Its an interesting idea but the book is poorly written and researched. im not sure why 4chan has such a fascination with it, i imagine most people who post the book cover image every chance they get have not actually read it.
>Fans of this genre are either mouth breathers or tankies>im not sure why 4chan has such a fascination with it
>>222469822>DUDE THERE'S LIKE SUPER SPOOKY SHIT HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES. TRUST ME BRO, YEAH I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE US GOV JUST MURDERING RANDOM PEOPLE IN BOATS THAT'S NOT INTERESTING BUT LIKE, EPSTIEN AND ISRAEL AND SOME SHITepic!
Uh oh glownigger melty
>>222469845This is the reason why conspiracies mostly suck. There's a bunch of terrible shit happening every day but nobody gives a fuck, but there always has to be some curtain behind the curtain to everything.
>>222469822is he actually a tankie? i never looked into him but I remember a few things he would write in passing being completely retarded but also very commonly repeated tropes of the time when the book was written. he shares the insight that a .22lr bullet is particularly deadly because of its tendency to bounce around in a victims body for instance.
>>222469845cooked they ass
>>222469845They're all significant things related to the absolute state of the judeo-Freemasonic States of Weimarica, no one has to pick just one mr smith>>222469883Really trying to push this divide and conquer false dichotomy shit huh?
>he finally respondedkek
>>222461004The nova trilogyBlood meridian
>>222469928It's not even "Mr Smith" anymore, Eglin AFB outsourced literal 'jeet employees. Even our shills aren't what they used to be.
>>222461503Header somehow got a movie.
>>222466663>Of course, now there are new types of activities, which I wont go anywhere near, certain tragic cultural phenomena that I consider to be artificially induced.You can't school us, even obliquely?
>>222469917>he shares the insight that a .22lr bullet is particularly deadly because of its tendency to bounce around in a victims body for instance.Is that not true? Did The Wire lie to me?And if not true, why is that specifically a tankie error?Also what's a tankie
>>222470118no its not true, its a boomerism that was really popular to repeat for several decades. .22lr works just like every other bullet and the reason for its prominence in murders is its low cost. tankies are western communists who sided with the ussr over various political upheavals involving the "new-left" in the 60s and 70s and the people who larp as them in the year 2026
>>222469845>people
>>222469786The bigger the conspiracy or the longer it runs the stupider it getsA one time conspiracy of a handful of people for one real outcome makes more sense than a conspiracy with 100s of people that takes place over decades
>>222470118Glowniggers are trying to divide anyone into conspiracies into a right vs left thing and calling them a communist in this case, which is odd. Like JIDF calling you liberal for saying to death to Israel and trying to divide that into a right vs left thing. nu/tv/ is clueless
>>222461462Just watch some Ceuta footage.
>>222470286i find the existence of the phoenix program to be very interesting, especially the amount of information about it available compared to how little has been written about it. i would like to see something like programmed to kill written by someone who is perhaps less of a crackpot and better at research.>>222470300pretending like people who peddle conspiracy books are pure subjects without ideological baggage is delusional. the guy who wrote Chaos is obviously a leftist. if him being a leftist somehow prevents you from engaging with his ideas, this is evidence of your own lack of development and not the work of glowniggers mindfucking you.
>>222470300To be fair the old conspirasphere was mostly left-wing, e.g. Alex Jones is a libtard by today's standardsMaybe you're too young to remember?
>Programmed to Shill
>>222469845>not replying to the post's content>trying to switch topics to political shitflingingWhat a strange reply. Why does the government feel a need to control discussion in social media platforms?
Glownigs hate this thread
>>222461004Herb Baumiester's home is like 20 min away from me in Carmel, Indiana.They found a new body there just a few years ago. After learning how all these gay pedo killers are connected it makes sense seeing him on that cover. I wonder if he knew John Wayne Gacy and all those guys. Didnt they meet up in Chicago?
>>222470737>pointing out inconsistencies in my logic identifies you as a government agent, personally stalking me because of how special my mind is and the threat that it represents to the rulers of this worldthis is a reasonable position to take and should inform all future decision making on your part
dont know if this is mentioned in the book, been year since i read it but this blew my mind finding out about it the other day. paul bonacci was the stepbrother of gacys first victim.
>>222469845>elites murdering your fellow citizens is not important, you need to care about safety of people invading your border or smuggling drugsIf there was one thing communists did right after taking power is to kill retards like this.
>>222466663>>222463591>The fact that Alisa owens and Paul Bonacci were't celebs amoung the redpill movement and weren't interviewed by alex jones proves the movement is pozzed.Probably because Paul Bonnaci is a convicted sexual offender who assaulted a child three times and never had definite proof that there was a satanic ring in Nebraska. You’re just as delusional as Noreen thinking a child trafficking ring would actually let her adult son see her.
Not that it would make a good movie, but since we're taking about unfilmable books
NOTHING in this thread even comes close to how hard adapting Second Apocalypse would be.
>>222472133See this cover all the time but have no clue what its about. Hope it isnt boring.
>>222461338>the Sons of Sam docuseriesThat shit was so good. I'm not sure if I'm 100% onboard but that dude did his research. Cool as hell. It's one of those conspiracy shows where you just go>This makes an incredible amount of sense
>>222466796>>222464605this couldn't be adapted because it's too boring
>ctrl+f Finnegans wake>0 resultsI am dissapoint
>>222472133>unfilmableThat's only because it's so fragmented in the storytelling, and none of the stories really have anything to do with each other outside of a fictional town on the AmeriMex border. The part about the roasticides could be an interesting movie in itself, though.>>222472527It's good but long as fuck, 5 parts. The best part is what I mentioned above about the female murders.
>>222472746It's not even readable anon, except by drunk Irish rednecks.
>>222469845Holy shit the US government pays you faggots for this?Hey Uncle Sam I know you niggers can get my phone off a 4chan post. Give me a call I'll shill 10x better for half what you pay this nigger.If you are Mossad I can do the same but not for less pay.
>>222469845>>222469883Lmao it’s real holy shit. Never fails to make me laugh when the agent smith tier retards show up
>>222461062Came here to post this
>>222463591There were a few people who went in depth in that story besides DeCamphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G8mbZmyd5Y
>>222472774I read the stand as a teen so I can read long books.
>>222464605The main plot wouldnt be that hard of an adaptation though. Its surely gonna miss alot of what actually makes it great though
>>222471362There was a large nationwide sex trafficking network in the 70s mostly involving boys, and Gacy and Dean Corll were both in it. Also there were no real laws against it at the time; the Mann Act did not cover boys.
The Dictionary
>>222475522That youtuber who did deep dives was cool till he went off the deep end. It happened around the time he started exploring the last vegas incident.
>>222461004Programmed to Kill can never be adapted because of the author’s lazy research and poor fact checking on the murder cases he cites, trying to argue that Ted Bundy was wrongfully convicted for example. He further cites other now discredited conspiracy works as proof of his claims, such as the novel “The Boston Stranglers,” which tries to argue that Albert DeSalvo was not the Boston Stranglers. Recent DNA tests ultimately proved he killed the final victim, and therefore was the Boston Strangler.
>>222463698Nick Bryant, the journalist who wrote the first book on the subject, can barely find work anymore.https://news.isst-d.org/an-interview-with-nick-bryant-part-i-the-franklin-scandal/
>>222461338Maury Terry used circular logic already arriving at conclusions he wanted. David Berkowitz tried to use him to claim he had an unfair trial and needed to be freed from prison. There’s old interviews with Berkowitz where he’s clearly claiming there was more than one killer and then himself arguing that he needs his case tossed out. He’s since converted to Christianity and has done interviews where he slips up and admits he did all murders alone, but then later tries to walk it back and claim he only may shot 3 people, and somebody who was part of this secret nationwide Satanic cult did the rest.
>>222475522Gacy was connected to the state Democrat Party in Illinois and was said to be procuring boys for politicians.
>>222461964>26 witnesses killed during the trialhate it when that happens
>>222475522they also didn't say sex trafficking back then, it was still called "white slavery"
>>222475522>the Mann Act did not cover boysSodomy laws did, then those got overturned (against popular will), and that's how we got to current year
>>222475555Are you talking about flesh simulator? He didn't go off the deep end, a bunch of Hasan fans targeted him and spent a year doing shit like calling his entire family's place of work and calling them pedos and making fake accounts with his name and making bomb threats and a ton of other stuff.
>>222461004i can't partake in this thread cause i don't readgoodbye and thank you
>>222476060Yeah, I know he was getting trolled and harassed but he reacted atrociously.
>>222476077Wait! Try ender's game and the lord of the flies to get a taste of literature.
>>222476027That wasn't until 2002, long afterward.
>>222462062Marc Dutroux is more like EuroEpstein
>>222476155What did he do? All I know is that he uploaded videos calling them out and a bunch of Hasan fans flooded the comments calling him crazy and claiming nothing was happening at all when in fact everything he said was happening was 100% true and several of them are looking at criminal charges now
>>222461338both programmed to kill and ultimate evil make their biggest points without any real evidence. of course you wouldn't notice that. i haven't read that chaos book but i'm assuming it's gay too since gay guys like you and rogan like it.
reading people's thoughts on conspiracy books i've read is so interesting. it's almost like they skipped over the most important parts and got the rest of it wrong.
>>222469682>>222469294>>222470286>>222470595Glowie meltdown. Whats wrong with his research exaclty, he list everyone one of his soucres and the vast majority are from certified documentation.You keep alluding to how th boom is terrible without ever giving any real reasons. It's kinda like you just don't want people reading, could ir jave anythi g to do with the fact in the prolog alone he writes about the fact the vast majority of therapist calling the satanic panic a conspiracy were on the cia's payroll?
>>222475648He didn't imply ted Bundy was wrongfully convicted he implied he was either involved or a fall guy for a larger operation that continued after his arrest. Fuck off glowie.
>>222476516He had an odd meltdown and made even more bizarre videos.
>>222477110>hes not allowed to type the no-no wordhow's the weather down there?
>>222477844Are you implying I'm a glowie because I didn't say nigger? Even though it had nothing to do with what I was talking about? You're a dumb nigger. I know you're probably just trying to get me banned but who gives a fuck?
>>222477908what do you think glowie is short for, cpl hernandez
>>222461004Natural born killers is basically this
you can just make AI sloppa now
>>222478056yea but this also a blue board, dumbass.
>>222462473Look it’s /tv/‘s favorite book!
>>222461736Easy. The movie would be about the faggot Truant reading the story.
>>222478449oh are you a mod too? that makes sense
>>222476216Dutroux was just a pawn and a scapegoat
>>222461462Enjoy your ban Ivan
>>222467734Telling the story of the book won't be that hard I think.Sure Jodge Holden might feel a tad ridiculous instead of ominous. But a good director can achieve that still. Even the ambiguity of The Kid can be somewhat adapted; have him talk with Tobar a bit more/earlier.More difficult would be the point of violence in the book. There's always a lot of violence, but most moviegoers that want to see violence, want it like Kill Bill, gratuitous and spectacular.But in Blood Meridian the violence escalates while the impact to those committing it lessens and lessens.How would you adapt that, without losing the real essence of the book?
>>222480876The Lego version with the audio book is absolute cinema.
If Spielberg made The Lost World every book can be made into a movie, no matter how shitty the source material is
>>222481199Based optimist.
>>222461062>tfw you're your own grandpa, uncle, brother, twin, girl friend, half alien, president of earth and Brazilian
>>222480876>most moviegoers that want to see violence, want it like Kill Bill, gratuitous and spectacular.For just a moment I imagined Quinton Tarantino deciding to make it and I felt extremely ill.
>>222461153What the fuck is this book even about I see it jerked offhere and on reddit and noone ever even hints on what it's actually aboutAlso wasnt the author some weepy faggot that an heroed? Kek
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>>222461004If you think serial killers can’t exist naturally and have to be artificially created by some occult CIA program you are dangerously naive about human nature and probably the type of stupid faggot who leaves your door unlocked while you sleep because it makes you feel like you live in a “safe neighbourhood”. The Night Stalker 2.0 is going to come into your home and kill you because of meth, child abuse and pornography, not because the government brainwashed him.
>>222483249is it weird to be attracted to lady coronersthere's something about them in particular that makes them so desirable to me
>>222483249Cracking open a cold one with the boys!
>>222483249Low IQ people find the idea that the world is a barely controlled mess too terrifying to confront, so they need to imagine that some all-powerful force, usually the CIA/Jews/Freemasons or something runs everything so that way the world makes sense to them.
>Surviving VIPs of a colony ship crash start larping as Hindu deities, make themselves functionally immortal using clones, but let the sleeping passengers go feral then keep them at the medieval India level of tech>Protagonist is reintroducing Buddhism (with himself as Siddhartha) as a way to protest>Final bad guy is the only Christian from the original crew they've portrayed as the Indian God of DeathIt would piss off too many religions.Fantastic book tho.
>>222483598>so they need to imagine that some all-powerful forceWe call them the religious.
>>222483534Carlos!
>>222483598Neither precludes the other. World can be a mess that allows all sorts of nasty shit to happen because there are people who are just born nasty __AND__ there can be conspiracies that deliberately make horrible things happen for their gains.
>>222480876I don't think that will be the hard part. I think the hard part will be adapting the fantastical prose and imagery that he conjours up, the scenery porn as well. Knowing modern cinema the entire movie would end up looking brown and grey or piss yellow.
>>222483249Yes, it was definitely organic and not weird that they suddenly began to spike as a phenomenon in the Bay Area in the late 60s, continuing alongside a hysterical media campaign and suddenly ending exactly in the late 90s right as a replacement phenomenon started upAlso, pay no attention to this upsurge coinciding with the alleged shutting down of mind control experiments even as, later on, there is now evidence that such techniques were taken out on the field and applied in assassinations and human trafficking operations. And also ignore all this arriving just as the Phoenix Program was still underway>>222483598Ah yes, that old talking point. Most people who have a well-researched perspective in these areas think that everything is under total control, but people and organizations, like, plan and do awful things. I'm not necessarily inclined to always assume the worst, but sometimes there are a lot of indicators and this is one of those areas
>>222482802There are several plotlines that crisscross but it's ultimately a very humane exploration of addiction. Gets weighed down by a lot of "lol so randum" comedy but is definitely worth reading.DWF was a faggot but clearly understood the sicknesses of modernity, to the point of accurately satirizing post-internet era neuroses before they even existed.
>>222483249>The Night Stalker 2.0 is going to come into your home and kill you because of meth, child abuse and pornography, not because the government brainwashed him.There hasn't been a serial killer in decades.
>>222484108>Most people who have a well-researched perspective in these areas *DON'T think that everything is under total controlDang it, had to correct thatMy take is that there is an op to have a lot of retards on places like /r/conspiracy post all this shit about how we are under total control and everything is perfectly planned out, and this is used to strawman any research or takes that shed light on clandestine activities. The point is that clandestine activities obviously happen, and sometimes they're quite despicable. That doesn't mean that literally nothing ever happens organically either. It's a big motley mix
>>222485830Good news, anon!
>>222484865There are plenty who get caught after one kill or home invasion attack etc
>>222486143Not the same thing thoughIt is pretty weird that this thing started in the late 60s, became this supposed crisis and epidemic in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, and then stopped cold around 1999
>>222461004>BooksDune. Still unfilmable.>Video GamesLegend of Zelda. Here's hoping I'm wrong.Drowned God; Conspiracy of the AgesNeeds a thorough remaster and expansion. Can't be a movie.
>>222486357>stopped with the advent of DNA profiling and national DNA databaseswhoa that is pretty weird
>>222486522That hardly meant that all old murders were solved, or that people don't constantly get away with crimes now
>>222464605it can be adapted if you add a banjo
>>222479450mental illness.
>>222482802>What the fuck is this book even aboutpost modern lit is a hell of a drug
>>222484865That's not even close to being true. But a lot of the serial killers being caught recently in the US have been black, and the media doesn't like to cover those cases.
ITT: brown illiterate edgelord teens who are really into true crime
>>222486539Most murders are dudes shooting each other, not kidnapping, rape, torture and burying the body somewhere.
>>222487663I'm wasn't referring to all murders or homicides, just the serial killer phenomenon (which is what the book in the original post is about). Murders of course continue to happen, but the serial killer thing where some guy feels inclined to keep doing it over and over just for the sake of killing, that seems to have cooled down historicallyI don't know how many of these cases that David McGowan shows suspicion for in the book had more going on than in the official narratives, but some like the Henry Lee Lucas case and John Wayne Gacy do have some pretty peculiar details and connections
>>222487621I was hoping for a thread about impractical or controversial stories instead of conspiraschizo circlejerking
>>222487944Dude, the book in the first post is literally David McGowan's Programmed to KillDo you have any idea what that book is about? The conversation in this thread is perfectly normal by the standards of that book
>Blood MeridianThe Cohen brothers will do it. You heard it here first.
Dostoevsky has been adapted multiple times but I think he actually is unadaptable because by losing his style you lose the point. So many words can be reduced into so little action, and the talking is more stimulating. I think La Chinoise by Godard was the best although it very loosely used Demons.
>>222488028>The Cohen brothersanon... I dont know how to tell you this
>>222486357It’s the exact same thing, they are just no longer tactically capable of committing multiple murders due to advances in technology and forensics. But the psychological type and motivation is the same. They would continue killing if they could
>>222489224No, some random black kid killing someone while robbing their home isn't the same profile or phenomenon as someone consistently killing for the sake of killing. Although in the case of the latter, I wonder how many had handlers and were doing hits, or had observers who were nudging them and then giving them a long leash
>>222483249Sure but then you have to explain why they basically don't exist prior to 1960
>>222485830They just did this starring Matt Damon
>>222486522There are very obvious ways of killing and even raping people without leaving DNA evidence for the police. Where is the similar volume of such murders to replace all the old serial killers?
People sometimes complain that Programmed to Kill doesn't provide sources, and it doesn't, unfortunately. But I've found that after extensive research into the areas covered, when you come back and read it again youl notice how much of it you've seen corroborated in other texts. You just have to go digging yourself, but I don't believe I've yet found anything that has contradicted any claims or insinuations made in the book, at least as far as the accounts or data given - regardless of one's interpretation of said data
>>222461964>Dutroux is due to release in few yearsThis is the only piece of information in that post that I decided to look up, and it turned out to be 100% false.Not going to bother with the rest.
>>222467734Just make The Kid stoic, always looking at you sideways with a squint, and you're good to go.
>>222483249>two things cant be truelol
>>222486143thats not a serial killer
>>222491222there is circular reporting, it's very much like the ufo literature. one of the ways you stay alive as an investigative journalist is by being a bit loose, if you don't fuck with anyone's money they actually prefer the notoriety because it helps advertise for them. criminals are some of the biggest clowns ever, because they are usually anonymous and model themselves after a fictional stereotype, media attention is something they crave. you see this with the former devgru guys who come out with shitty books about how they killed 200 taliban with their bare hands.the cia army psyops team went from >we never dealt drugs you're crazyto:>isn't dealing drugs kinda cool though? which is a weird pivot, but i guess they are really struggling for applicants. this machine cant grease itself yet and you have the war on terror guys all retiring since their 15, 20, 25 years are up, and they need new white people in there, since the bureaucracy is so retarded they cant trust the blacks or spics anywhere near the books, which are cooked five ways to sunday anyway. im in two minds about the topic. every school has a few serial killer wierdos, so i can imagine if the government really wanted to they can identify these people as children and pump them through a recruitment program off the books, but these people are low iq fuckups who are very unreliable. it's much more likely for the killer to be a professional hitman, who isn't so much a sexual sadist as a psycopath who is doing it for money.
>>222484744sounds kinda interesting I guess
the protocols
>>222489671There were serial killers prior to that, however it's true that the vast majority operated from 1969 to 99.
>>222495071You'd think people would be more interested in explaining that peculiarityI don't think "the mainstream" can complain that people are reaching to conspiracy theories when the mainstream is derelict in its duty - especially here, where there are plenty of more plausible explanations
>>222493453all hollywood movies are adaptations of the protocols
>>222480876You have to show it entirely from the Kid's perspective, which even within the context of the story is fantastical. Takr the dead baby tree, for example. In movie form, it could be just skulls, but the Kid hears their screams, only to look around and see no one else even flinch. Hell, have the Judge laugh and say something about injuns. The Kid could start to leave, gear the screams, and hesitate for a second until the Judge ushers him forward and speeds up to join the group. Extreme violence, separate from our main characters, and everything you need to know about the group dynamic in underworld a minute.The style should be across between the dry bleakness of Bone Tomahawk and the fantastical telling of the first half of Natural Born Killers, as seen through the eyes of a kid thrust into an incredibly violent world.
Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe. I think a superb adaptation *could* have been made in the early 00s, when CGI made mindbending visuals easily achievable and political correctness didn't strangle directors ability to create relatively true to form film versions of novels. Sadly that time is long gone, and ithey won't even attempt to adapt it now- Wolfe was too much the chud.
>>222493453>>222495124well it will just be a speech in some meeting in a tunnel with inverted pentagrams and battle plans on the wals so yeah modern films are the embodiment of that in one way or another
>>222492826The post was made in 2019, he was up for parole in 2020 but got denied, Eglintard.
the 70s had the perfect convergence of a large youth population, a busted economy, Cold War paranoia, and millions of war vets walking around. many people thought the world was coming to an end so there was nothing to do but see how much you could get away with.
>>222461079That was a pretty good book. Felt like a better version of The Stand in some ways.
>>222461062I thought about how you can make this work, have Severian tell the story like Amadeus but in an undisclosed location at an undisclosed time. Keeps the ambiguity of the twist as well as the unreliable narrative
>>222495114They didn't have the same ability to catch them in the past and didn't have the same ability to connect crimes to each other.Even now it's estimated that there are about 30 unknown serial killers in the United States and that most of those are actually in prison for the murder they did catch them for.Even still the peculiarity can be explained by cultural memetics of the time. Serial killers begat themselves because of the media. Like spree killers now.
>>222495207i know Wolfe is a devout Catholic, however I don’t think he’s ever mentioned politics. Sev has “chud” views but you’re not supposed to root for him
>>222496091>They didn't have the same ability to catch them in the past andCops aren't particularly smarter or more competent than back then, arguably they're even worse at solving crimes now.
>>222496577Not what I meant, fingerprints, DNA, photographs, databases with information on criminals or crimes, even the idea of different law enforcement from different states speaking with each other and sharing information. Like I mentioned about the unknown serial killers they could've caught many for the kills they knew and five other murders elsewhere went unsolved.
>>222464605We already got "Blyatvity's Rainbow."
>>222496915Most of those except DNA testing have been around for 100 years or more.
>>222497072here's your (you)
Dalit
>>222497072The guy you're replying to is from Romania or something where they just started doing some of that stuff 12 years ago.
>>222461736this could easily be made if you had a guy like lynch get complete creative freedom like he had with twin peaks: the return
>>222484744>DWF was a faggot but clearly understood the sicknesses of modernity, to the point of accurately satirizing post-internet era neuroses before they even existed.This. I remember listening to an interview of his recorded ca 1998 and he predicted shit like VR-porn verbatim.
>>222485830pasolini with shit like salo is pretty much the ideas of BAM distilled into film form with the aristocratic disgust for modern consumer capitalism, mass culture and the spiritual flattening of man. pasolini also had a very pagan view of the human body and sexuality that gels well with BAP's writing, even if he was marxist, so its definitely not unfilmable if pasolini was still alive i think he could do it easily. also mishima a life in four chapters is worth a mention considering how much mishima inspired BAP. my thoughts here may be disagreeable to BAPfags though
>>222486432nothing about zelda is unfilmable at all. many of the games like ocarina of time are already structured like films anyway with acts and a clear linear journey. just create an action adventure film with all the major story beats remaining the same as the game and its done. easy.
>>222461062Jolenta was asking for it
>>222488493i agree, but it is theoretically possible. its just that no director alive today understands nor could do justice to the work in its adaptation. someone like bergman or tarkovsky could very well have done it and would totally communicate the style, aesthetic and narrative content of the novels into film form well. of course they are both dead and nobody comes even close today to being like them
>>222495207a soviet animator could have done this justice in the 80s if they were allowed a disney budget.
Amygdalatropolis because it’s about this site lol
>>222493453That's just a stupid goyim conspiracy theory. Ignore this post.
>>222461004https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCrfiNsqFbk
