This movie blackpilled me as a kid
>>222498331The scene where he just stands there and watches the gypsy girl kiss the guy was brootal
in the book everyone dies lolgood riddance
>>222498375he died a cuck hugging the corpse of a gypsy that loved the soldier chad
>>222498405yeah but they're all dead. curtain call. no more story or adventure for anyone.
>>222498375>>222498405>>222498427there was a book? why did they all die?
>>222498457you could always use that nifty device you're using right now to look up information. handy isn't it?
Ugly people don't deserve to be with beautiful people that much is true, but only if they're poor. In the real world any ugly person can get a babe as long as they're rich.
Americans have no idea what gypsies are really like. t. euro
>>222498331The book is 1000× more blackpilled. But yeah it's a little surprising this was adapted to be a children's film when the themes are so grim.
>>222498375>>222498427phoebus lives
>>222498469yes but i want to ask you, the anon, to tell me about all the things im curious about
>>22249833126 year old incel herehunchback of notre dam is great, despite the blackpill its better to accept reality than to give people false hope. It also shows ugly people can still be useful to society and contribute despite not getting the romance they wantand the 2nd movie has him get with a pretty girl anyway just to please you people but I never watched it. imagine watching a disney sequel lmao
>>222498457>there was a book?American education strikes again. Victor Hugo is one the greatest european authors of all time (and was a huge leftist of his time).
>>222498457In Victor Hugo’s original 1831 novel, everyone dies because it is a dark, gothic tragedy exploring fatal obsession, social injustice, and miscommunication, rather than a fairy tale. Claude Frollo's toxic lust for Esmeralda triggers a domino effect of wrongful executions, mob violence, and heartbreak.How and Why the Characters DiedLa Esmeralda: Wrongfully sentenced to death for a murder she did not commit due to Frollo’s manipulation and jealous rage, she is ultimately hanged.Claude Frollo: Driven mad by his dark obsession, he watches Esmeralda hang. A heartbroken and enraged Quasimodo then pushes Frollo off the cathedral roof to his death.Quasimodo: After killing Frollo, Quasimodo goes to the mass grave where Esmeralda’s body was thrown. He lies down and holds her corpse, choosing to starve or die of grief beside her.Esmeralda's Mother (Sister Gudule): Accidentally killed by soldiers while desperately trying to shield and protect her daughter from being taken to the gallows.Clopin Trouillefeu: The leader of the Paris outcasts is killed by the king's soldiers during the chaotic attempt to storm the cathedral and rescue Esmeralda.If you'd like, I can share more about how the Disney movie changed this tragic ending or detail Victor Hugo's original message behind the story.
I don't get why ugly people don't lift, and feel entitled to the girl they find pretty.Pick one that matches you, fucking victim.
my aunt bought this VHS for my brother for his birthday and he cried when he opened itshe returned the movie and we got episodes of pokemon instead.
>>2224985493/10 women don't want 3/10 men, dumbass.
>>222498575Why would a guy ever date a 3/10 unless he’s like 400 pounds and unemployed?
>>222498591You just said to looksmatch.
Easiest bump limit thread of my life
>>222498331I'm honestly surprised that Disney is still using the word "gypsy."
>>222498510Sounds pretty kino actually.
>>222498504During that period leftist meant nationalist that wanted nation states and not being part of a king's fief "nation"
>>222498632What is there a politically correct version of gypsy?
>>222498510Thanks Chat
>>222498658Romano (which is a misleading term in itself, gypsies are jeets).
>>222498648>celebrates gypsies, criminals and criticizes church>nationalistYou've never read anything by Victor Hugo kek. He was part of the newest brand of leftists back then who started talking about how it's actually the burgeouse that control society, not aristocrats. Directly what evolved into communism.
>>222498699Not all gypsies like being called romani.
>>222498732>don't criticize the multi billionaire insidious kike and their enterprises or you're a communist
>>222498732Hugo supported colonization and considered Africa to be a savage hellhole in need of the white man's guiding civilization. Trying to ascribe modern political identities to historical figures is a fools errand.
>>222498662>you wrote something well? must be chatgpt
>>222498732>how it's actually the burgeouse that control society, not aristocratsYeah because he was a royalist and never truly change even if some say he became a republican in his later life
>>222498823>I can share more about how the Disney movie changed this tragic ending or detail Victor Hugo's original message behind the story.I was joking because you sound like chat especially with this.
>>222498475>>222498658Picrel is gypsy phenotype
>>222498820>Hugo supported colonization and considered Africa to be a savage hellhole in need of the white man's guiding civilization. Trying to ascribe modern political identities to historical figures is a fools errand.People forget that in his time africans were still eating their slaves and paper over the true brutality of what "savage" actually meant. Christians are largely only represented as if they were the worst side of things because people get taught about what they accomplished through nake agression. Meanwhile the fact that most savages were fucking cannibals or human sacrificing slavers who raped and killed even more but lost out to civilization just gets papered over as if they weren't disgusting.
>>222498899and here's the reality
>>222498658Wallet hands
>>222498899would>>222498964still would
>>222498820>considered africans to be in need of the white man's guiding handSo just like leftists today?
>>222498745Oh yeah i meant romani.
Didn't he fall in love with a single mom in the sequel
Quasimodo predicted all this.
>>222499017No. Modern leftists love cultural relativism
>>222498457lol
>>222499091their religion is nigger worship, slavery is good if niggers are doing it
Ugly cunts lose
>>222498331>we'rewhat a retard
>>222498823did you even read what that guy "wrote"?
>>222498331>I did everything right so you owe me sex!Kek feminists are right about everything
ITS NOT MY FAULT IM NOT TO BLAME
>>222500651Transwomen athletes are women athletes.
>>222501173Sure but they should be banned from what we call women's sports, the same way cripples are human but cripples fitted with blades instead of legs shouldn't compete in men's sports. Questions?
>>222498500>imagine watching a disney sequel lmaoDon't you talk shit on Return to Neverland.
>>222501247>questionsWhy are there women's sports at all?
>>222501487>btfod and asks for more kekTestosterone levels are highly correlated with muscle strength and therefore sports performance. The average male has significantly higher T levels than the average female, so splitting the competition in two ensures maximum participation and fairness. You'll note that biological females with elevated T levels are also routinely banned from women's sports.
>>222498331I don't give a fuckHellfire is 10/10Esmeralda is S Tier for Disney chicksThe art was kinoJeremy Irons is the goat
>>222498331Is is really that hard to grasp the narrative parallel between quasimodo, the protagonist and frollo, the villain? Where frollo can't let go of esmerelda and quasimodo can?grade school level interpretation of themes here and people still think quasimodo ending with the girl was the point.
>>222500017>we're Quasimodo>we're cucksFreudian slip
>>222498469Lil zoomy is afraid of conversations
>>222500651that's not the point
>>222498510>she is ultimately hangedACK!
>>222498510Wtf was Disney thinking when deciding on this to adapt.It has 0 Hallmarks of a traditional fairy or folk tale and there are so many others to choose from
>>222498331The message is unironically too deep for general audiences. It's hard to sell the idea that Quasimodo was wrong for idolizing Esmeralda instead of seeing her as a person/woman when she makes out with Phoebus within two minutes. It seems less like warped morals that need correction and more like set up to have his little heart destroyed. But that's also what makes the movie so unique and visceral. If you've been in that position before you know exactly how Quasimodo feels. The world recognizes him as a man at the end, that's his victory. But getting some pussy would have been nice.
>>222498331unironically chudlogic that views women as objects instead of humans with agency. Just flip this around. Some fat ugly deformed freak lady whos like a solid 2/10 saves your life, do you now have to marry her?
>>222504404your mistake is to expect the same roles to be fulfilled by both men and women. women don't save men, men do save women.
>>222504514you dont save women though, nor do you have the capacity too. Youre a gay, weak, bitter faggot.
>>222504576oh... okay... *leaves the room with my head down*
>>222504631wait anon, I-Im sorry! *grabs you by the wrist*
>>222501630nice reddit spacing
>>222498510In hindsight, one wonders why they thought this would make a good kid/family cartoon. Obviously they realized it wouldn't and changed the story. I guess this is when they were on their short lived historical/literary kick with stuff like Pocahontas and Tarzan, which they also changed.
>>222500811>be God>make the devil stronger than a man>blame man anywayProblem?
>>222504831"Reddit spacing", also known as markdown linebreaks you computer illiterate retard, are when you press the enter key twiceLike that.Seethe more.
>>222505193wrong see my earlier post
>>222498457Dont read it. Its just 30000 pages of Victor Hautismo describing Notre dame doors, floor and windows in excessive detail because the plebs during that era couldnt travel as easily as you can. Everyone dies. Frolo isnt even bad. He was right. And you can see videos of Notre Dame in youtube. I saved you 30000 pages.
>This movie blackpilled me as a kid
>>222502460>Where frollo can't let go of esmerelda and quasimodo can?Nigga, he literally died holding her corpse. You call the other guy dumb, but you couldnt even read the wikipedia article for the book
Someone post the cuck webm that goes on for like 90s. I thought I saved it but didn't.
>>222504404I have never fucked a single woman below a 7 btw and I would actually think about it.
>>222498331I hate zoomers so much it's unreal
>>222499079No you're thinking of Nosferatu
>>222498331DIS MOOVY HUT MUH FEE-FEESWEE NEED A WEE MAKE SO MUH FEE FEES WONT HUT NO MO
This movie could've been a classic on par with Prince of Egypt if they didn't feel the need to dumb it down with cartoon baby comic relief characters
>>222498331Erm you aren't owed sex, sweaty.
>>222505405>because the plebs during that era couldnt travel as easily as you canI've read it's because the revolutuonaries were anti religion and the cathedral had fallen into disrepair at the time
>>222507690>if they didn't feel the need to dumb it down with cartoon baby comic relief charactersI always figured he imagined them as babyish comic relief because he was a downy retard with the mind of a baby
>>222507690every disney movies has these goofball comic relief creatures. Prince of Egypt was a different studio which is why even though its a kids movie, the tone is much more serious and respectful
>>222498495He gets married, it's a tragic end for him either way
>>222507690>Literal manifestation of his mental illness
>>222498732>He was part of the newest brand of leftists back thenBack then "leftism" was mostly about nationalism and anti- monarchism, everything else was just a side effect. See the anti- religion movement in France aka "rationalism".
>>222498899Picrel is a Spanish chick. All gyppos look like shit and it's an actual improvement, considering the fact they all used to be disfigured bottom tier pajeets.
>>222507821>>222508030jason alexander also tells me to ask out women that are 8 points above me
>>222505474Nobody cares libshit
>>222498510>social injustice
>>222505113christian apologists still cant answer this
>>222498331The only way Quasimodo ends up with the girl is if he magically gets changed into not a freak.
>>222498331Getting the girl was never the point, stopping the bad guy was
>>222505113It's not the devil being stronger than a man, it's the man in question being weak af
>>222498331>kills his father figureDude, Frollo was his warden. It's a tale about liberation and you know what if you've got anything to say about the fairy-tale nature of Disney programming then I suggest you approach the real respect this flick pays you mutants by talking to you honestly instead of advising some route which might set you gone Lenny on some poor girl
>>222505113if the devil's so strong, why dont he come up here and kick my ass?
The animated gargoyles are why this movie is bad
>Ugly freak strung along by manipulative whoreRealest shit Disney ever made
...do you see yourself as a hunchback?
>>222498331She doesns't owe him sex wtf is wrong with men
>>222498331I live in South Bend, Indiana, should I start calling people this?
>>222505113frollo commits hubris both in the ancient greek sense and the christian sense(blasphemy)
>>222505113oh sure lets just kill all the gypsys about it
Cuasimodo should have mewed and lookmaxxed
>>222498457Yes, they did a novelization of the movie after it came out
>>222508415or if the chick becomes fat and ugly as in Shrek
>>222508879Gyppos were ancient pajeets. Hobos, beggars, scammers, thieves. A nuisance at best, danger at worst. Everybody hated them.
>>222498331>dysgenic crying over being rejected because of his terrible geneskek>Beauty and the Beast>literal monster who would've killed her father makes her pussy gushkekThe Disney kikes know what they're like.
>>222498331LOL, even as a child you knew you'd be a fucking virgin for life.
>>222508953In that sense Frollo was an early cybersecurity pioneer with his analogue firewall
>>222501630Yeah but the ones with elevated T levels get banned cause it’s an indication that they’ve been using steroids, not simply because of the T levels themselves.
>>222498331Hellfire is one of the best Disney songs. So fucking good
>>222498331To this day I still don't understand why Disney greenlit this movie.The message is literally that Ugly people do not get a happy ending and are only subject to labor until they're dead.>t. EXTREMELY ugly irl Quasimodo
>>222509225you're one track minded
