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Jon Hamm gives me the ick
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>>222506381
He also killed a man
Now that I think about it, like half the cast of 30 Rock has killed someone lol
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>>222506489
I dont think he killed a dude. He just shoved things up his ass. Nice wholesome frat Chad shit.
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>>222506381
So do women have personal agency or not? Feminists can never seem to make a decision on this.
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>ran out he biological clock
but I thought 50 year old women were in their prime
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>>222506381
I love foids seething.
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>>222506489
Tina and Amy are clean? Tina’s at least killed some babies.
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>>222506381
That'll be a good looking kid, they better hope the kid will take after him.
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>you're only allowed to have children on the schedule of a rapidly aging roasty before she's barren or else you're le evil
>also she should be allowed to murder the child on a whim her body her choice
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>>222506381
>here is how I want things babe
>that is fine with me
>"omg how could he do this mind rape on her!? he's a terrible person for wasting her life!"
Absurd man hating cunts and faggots.
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>Having kids in your mid 50s

Guy is gonna be too old to pick them up by the time their 10
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>>222506381
He SAd a pledge while in a frat during college. His dumbass ex wife deserves it for marrying and monster
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>>222506381
Birth control turns women into sex dolls. If she didn't take it, she would have had his kid. But she wanted to be sterile, oh well.
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admit it

Hamm is a fucking creep
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>>222506712
Thats pretty based. For whatever reason he saw having a kid with westfeldt would be a huge mistake.
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>>222506712
So you're not allowed to change your mind?
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>>222506381
>>222506712
how is that his fault? just because he didn't want a kid then doesnt mean he could never decide he wanted one people are allowed to change their minds. if his ex wanted a kid that badly and it meant so much to her then why didn't she just leave him for a man who wanted to have children?
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>>222506750
only if it's about sex and only if you have a vagina
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>>222506688
I had my first at 35. It is well worth it but absolutely exhausting. I dunno why anyone would want to become a first time father in their fucking 50's. But he's a working actor so he won't even be home most of the time which is probably why he doesn't care.
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>>222506381
Not impregnating women is the worst kind of rape of all
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Maybe he didjlnt think the first gf would be a good mother? Maybe she's a horrible bitch?
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>>222506534
The guy from the frat initiation is definitely still alive. What Jon did is lit his jeans on fire, struck him on the arse with a paddle once he’d taken the jeans off, forced his face in the dirt and told him to lick it, then he made him strip naked, hooked under his testicles with the claw of a hammer, yanked up so the man had to walk on his tiptoes and then walked him around like a dog on a leash demanding he sing.

Jon Hamm always unsettled me, his sneering bass voice pitched as low as he can possibly take it, trying to be commanding. His tightly wound smug face radiating deep insincerity and disrespect for the audience and his costars, while a tiny glimmer of the abandoned needy child within occasionally gleamed through in his otherwise dead, button eyes. Cult leader vibes, basically.

When I first read about this sickening homoerotically charged attack, it was like the moment in a who dun it where all the pieces fall into place through rapid flashbacks. Somehow, I always knew, you know?

In a just world, Jom Hamm would have been put to death by the state.
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>>222507013
fraternities aren't common in your country I take it?
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>>222506822
>dunno why anyone would want to become a first time father in their fucking 50

it’s often not by choice. My uncle was married twice but didn’t have kids until he met his 3rd wife in his early 50s. Now approaching the end of a normal human lifespan at 75 he got them both through college and employed
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>>222506381
His ex is older than him. They're both monsters
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>>222507047
It’s very interesting to me that you seem to want to defend Jon’s behaviour. Well, don’t be coy. Lay out your reasoning.
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>>222506381
She's the one from his scene in Superhero Movie.
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>>222507013
>arse
it was on the liver
>>222507047
shut up psycho
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>>222507120
Macho cultures sometimes veer into homoerotic bullying. Its not gay or weird its just banter between the bros. In past times you would have to do something violent or criminal to be accepted now you just have to do some zesty shit.
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>>222506712
Get your tits out or fuck off
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>>222506381
Who?
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>>222506712
Foids seem awfully upset about this useless clump of cells
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>>222506381
i'm 40. my gf is 21. i have 2 kids to a 40yo. my gf was a virgin when i met her last year. my eldest daughter is older than my gf.

discuss.
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>>222507120
what you posted is small time compared to actual real abuse/deaths that have occurred involving fraternity initiations. Everyone involved knows what to expect. The guy must have been denied entry to the frat and then was extra butthurt to see Hamm on tv.
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how did he beat the allegations
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i've never watched Mad Man. so this dude is very irrelevant to me. the only time i watched him was when he played a boyfriend in the bridesmaid movie.
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>>222507528
It's kind of shocking how he didn't manage to leverage his Mad Men fame into a career.
He was a household name for a while then just slowly fizzled out.

Either he realized he didn't have what it takes, or his agent is a moron or he's extremely difficult to work with.
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>>222507261
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>>222507165
>>222507437
People who did even worse should also be executed. This is bizarre. It’s like you are both arguing that I don’t think a serial killer should be executed because I said I wanted someone who killed a liquor store owner in a hold up to be executed. You’re allowed to punish them both, and in a just world you’d do so.

>Jon didn’t kill the guy, just lit him on fire, so it’s ok.

No.
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>>222507708
NTA but you're a fucking faggot with a God complex who actually has no morals at all. Eat shit.
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>>222507708
>i think people should be executed for doing consensual zesty shit in a frat
You sound quite unhinged yourself.
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>>222507013
You sounds a bit gay, bro.
Nobody really dwells on frat shit since people willingly go through that and later brag about it. They're all assholes to begin with so what do you care what asshole fratboys do to each other. Seem awfully fixated on it, y'know.
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>>222506381
maybe he was against having kids so he's always adopted birth control methods but he accidentally knocked up his current gf and now he doesn't feel like aborting his ass?
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>>222506381
Why are they complaining but specifically still choosing this?
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>>222507261
in which country do you live?
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>>222507165
>Its not gay or weird
it's definitely weird and a bit gay. It's why I'm not bothered by feminists breaking up the boy's clubs
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>>222506534
He dragged a guy's balls with claw hammer
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>>222507861
Some dudes pay to get their balls pulled by another guy with a claw hammer and some dudes pay women to peg them with dragon dildos.
Who am I to judge?
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>>222507756
So let me get this straight. You like Mad Men (understandable), but you’re incapable of separating Jon Hamm from Don Draper. My belief is that Jon Hamm shouldn’t be able to carry out ludicrously violent attacks on other people. I am not targeting Jon in this belief, I believe anyone ITT should also be put to death for such wanton cruelty and violence.

>>222507774
>>222507777
The other guy didn’t consent though. He consented to trying to join the Frat, then Jon and his accomplices wouldn’t let him leave, and tortured him.

I guess my broader point would be that even if any of you completely consented to me manhandling your genitals to the point of inflicting physical trauma on them with a claw hammer, I wouldn’t be able to do it. This is just one reason the state shouldn’t put me to death. There are other violent and dangerous crimes I also don’t commit. I don’t want to be around people, like Jon, who willingly choose to hurt people.
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>>222506381
Well yeah, what's the point of being around some stinky complaining cunt all day if she doesn't give you kids lol. Everyone is always telling "Child free" women that they'll end up sad and lonely and they're still surprised when it happens. I'm 30 and have instantly stopped talking to women even if I'm physically attracted to them if they don't want kids
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>>222506381
Bruh I've read several stories of women changing their mind when they get pregnant, wanting to keep it and it's "fine" and you're supposed to accept it.
He changed his mind too, what's the issue?
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>>222507934
bro you're arguing with ironic contrarians who don't believe their own arguments, stop wasting your time
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>>222507965
If so, they’re the ones wasting their time, not me. Arguing for things you do not believe to be true weakens one’s character.
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>>222507934
Everyone who pledges a frat knows that they are going to be bullied to shit, made to do embarrassing and disgusting shit while they pledge, possibly die of alcohol poisoning, and do borderline gay shit to be accepted. On top of that if they graduate from being maggots they have to pay their frat to stay in good standing.
All that to say that it is extremely consensual. Dont want to play soggy muffin then dont pledge.
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a friendly reminder of that thing that happened today
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>andropause baby
What?
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>>222506542
Schrödinger's Feminist
She does not have personal agency this time because she was taken advantage of because she's a woman and he's a misogynist.
It is completely his fault for doing this to her and he should be forced to take full responsibility.
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>>222507165
Frat shit is nothing compared to the male initiation rituals of some tribal peoples. Blowing the elders, drinking semen, scarification, suspension, bloodletting, and whipping are all seen throughout primitive groups. Nothing new under the sun.
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>>222508024
Let’s say you expected snd consented to playing a game of soggy muffin with a group of men. Then one of the other men pulls out a claw hammer, hooks your scrotum with it, and starts yanking. This wasn’t in your weird little fetish scene plan, so you throw out the safe word, but he keeps going. It’s hurting your testicles. You beg him to stop, but he won’t.

Has he attacked you? If not, why not? If you consent to have sex with someone, have you consented to all sexual possibilities? Including having a sounding rod jammed up your cock? Of course not. That would be a preposterous stance to take.

You are welcome to join me in the land of reasonable, reality based and non circular reasoning time, or you can continue defending a man who lit another man’s jeans on fire so he could get access to and violently attack his scrotum with a hammer. Your choice.
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>>222507934
>The other guy didn’t consent though.

that guy knew exactly what to expect and probably heard even worse rumors of what they do than what really happened to him, and he still decided to try to join the frat.
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>>222506381
Old women are gross. Fact.
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>>222506381
Women are so dumb
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>>222506381
another tranny seething about a mature man impregnating a younger woman
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>>222506381
Jon Hamm is a based Gadonbro
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>>222506542
>>222508077

Most of this disease can be destroyed by realizing that the importance men mentally project onto woman is an illusion or a mental construct. It can be conditioned out from birth the same way racism was conditioned out of the white population. 90% of modern morality can disappear into irrelevancy when our culture eventually embraces this simple fact.
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>>222506381
Don Draper... likes younger women
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Jon Hamm's body, Jon Hamm's choice stupid roasties.
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>>222506712
>I was a whore but I want to settle down with a bet...no I MEAN PEOPLE CAN CHANGE? WHY ARE YOU JUDGING ME BY MY PAST? ITS THE PAST OK!
>Now Ham cant change opinions because what he thought and the persona he was 20 years ago must be forever him
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>>222506712
Like women don't do this all the time?
>Oh I don't want kids, I just don't think motherhood is for me
>gets with a new man and is knocked up within 6 months
Whatever, women will never take accountability or reflect on their actions and beliefs, just the way it is.
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>>222508173
We can infer he didn’t consent by the way he complained about Hamm’s behaviour, which Hamm was found guilty of. That means, in a court of law, his behaviour was judged (correctly I might add), to be unacceptable.

I recall a case of a man who consented to have another man kill, and eat him. I don’t believe the killer should have gotten away with this either. Do you?

Is the lack of consent or legal approval the only thing holding you back from injuring and killing other people? If so, you’re exactly the kind of person the rest of us can do without.
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>>222508304
The only reason the guy snitched on Hamm is because he wasnt accepted into the frat. I never had any interest in joining a frat but I could see how some dork who pledged would get buttmad that he did tons of gay shit and got worked like a slave and humiliated only for the brothers to say Sorry bro you didnt make the cut. I could also see why he would go full bitch and snitch about stuff he consented to do.
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I was with my high school sweetheart for 15 years, I was always very clear I didn't want kids and that if she did want kids she should find someone else. So, she eventually did break up with me and go find someone else. But the next woman I was with was so kind and nurturing that the idea of having kids didn't seem horrible anymore. So now we're trying for kids. Shit can change, people can change.
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>>222507521
Imagine having prime Sally Draper
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>>222507586
Mad Men was a prestige cable show, he got the level of fame it accorded
He mostly wanted to be a comedy actor anyway, hence Fletch
Think about the cast of Seinfeld, Friends, Lost, CSI, Big Bang Theory, etc
Most stars of actual network popular shows never go on to do much of anything else
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>>222508396
I’ll grant you that’s probably true, but it doesn’t change the fact that it isn’t ok to use tools to hurt people’s genitalia.

I think I figured you out. You have the same root problem as the type of guy who thinks to catch a predator was wrong, because it was entrapment. Small picture thinking. Entrapment may be sneaky, but pedophilia is viewed as more wrong societally (rightfully so.

You need to see start seeing the big picture. I don’t care if your hazing victim dishonours himself by snitching. The whole world won’t care. But we will care about the claw hammer. Even if you’re completely sociopathic and only in it for yourself, if you don’t understand the foundational rules of the game, you will just keep losing.

If you don’t want to be manipulated, you armour yourself against it with your morals. I couldn’t be caught for the Job Hamm committed because of my morals. Maybe you should try just that. Living a moral life. It begins when you stop praising men like Jon Hamm.
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>>222508717
anyone who wants to join a frat where that kind of shit happens deserves to have that kind of shit happen to them
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>they weren’t married therefore she got nothing
She can still sue for “divorce” pretty easily. Also, he probably just treated her right with alimony anyway.
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>>222507013
Based post
>>222507777
There's truth to this. But it's like this - let's stay a pede diddles a kid who has the propensity to become a pede. Then the kid grows up and is definitely a pede. We should still throw the pede into a mulcher for what he did.
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>>222507708
The Basedman is on a roll this anon rocks
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>>222507934
Baaaaaaased
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>>222508396
Hamm got off easy, he should have been gelded. Hey there you go solves OPs whole problem
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>>222508622
Then imagine sitting in a state prison
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>>222506381
he forced her at gunpoint or something? was she mentally challenged and couldn't consent?
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>>222506381
Jon Hamm's peak of popularity was around 2007 to 2015. He doesn't seem to be known for or have got as big of a role as Don Draper from Mad Men.
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>>222506381
his new wife is hotter than the older one. are roasties retarded? it's normal to want a more attractive partner to have more attractive children
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>>222508761
The only person who believes that is the kind of person looking for a victim it’s “ok” for them to hurt. You make the rest of us unsafe.
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>>222507934
You're a faggot with a micropenis
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>>222506688
Why wo>>222506694
uld you pick up a 10 year old.
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>>222506381
Also, based Jon fucked Dakota Johnson in 2017 when he was 46 and she was 27.
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>>222509013
You have never had the opportunity to press a ruler against my penis to verify that claim. I absolutely wouldn’t want you to do that, because I’m not a homosexual. You, on the other hand? You’re making it clear you would enjoy the experience, even if you convince yourself it would just be to humiliate me.

Add that to the fact that what has made you angry is me taking a moral stance against Jon Hamm’s homoerotically charged violence, and the conclusion is clear. You are a projecting repressed homosexual yourself.

In an argument, the first man to descend to the level of pointless name calling is losing. Face it. You have begun a chimpout. You’re having a tanty. A melty.

Don’t worry anon, I know no one in your life sees you for the awful person you are, but I do. I do believe that given the opportunity, you would attack my genitals with a hammer. I’m not worried about you calling them small, but I’d never let my guard down around someone like you.

Fellow anons, take notice. This is what being a Jon Hamm fan does to a man.
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>>222508973
Your friends and neighbors is pretty good, I’ve heard a lot of normies hyping it up and telling me to watch it.
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>>222506381
Same thing happened to my buddy’s sister.

She started dating the guy in HS and he strung her along until she was _35 years old_ then dumped her, for a chick the same age who wasn’t even good looking (my buddy’s sister looked Stevie Nicks).
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>>222507777
Yeah. I despise it but i also know a secret word
no
It works for me
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>>222507013
It's okay, Jon has forgiven himself and he's in a different place now.
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>>222507950
The difference is when _she_ changes her mind and now wants to keep the baby, you’re suddenly on the hook for 24 years of child support payments while she stuffs her face with twinkies.
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>>222507777
>>222507047
>>222507165
>he lets a trend setting, probably slightly gay, sadist from the frat's past dictate his actions
I always find frats odd, some mildly homosexual Roger from lord of the flies type normalizes some new level of cruelty he thinks he can get away with to get his rocks off and then other frat brothers down the line maintain that level of cruelty until a new Roger appears and escalates as far as he can and normalizes even crueler/gayer behavior
I just made pledges do embarrassing shit, like act like an animal in front of women, or had them clean my apartment and or drive me around when I was drunk
genuinely can't fathom the guys that made them do knee/elbow bottlecaps, punch pledges one retard gave a pledge a concussion, or some of the other more insane shit like pull their balls or make them do an elephant walk
shit was GENUINELY gay
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>andropause baby
Based term, I hope it catches on
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>>222506381
I mean the ex looks older now, but he looks pretty rough too. He had one popular role as a memorable asshole, but the rest have been forgettable assholes. He was kind of the dad bod/grey sweatpants version of Sydney Sweeney back in the day.
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>>222509513
That sounds tame. I knew a guy who said they would make the maggots unironically buttchug. He laughed like it was a quaint little anecdote.
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>>222508396
>The only reason the guy snitched on Hamm is because he wasnt accepted into the frat.
no it's because he got liver damage lmao, hamm managed to fuck up the hazing
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>>222509577
>and now pledges, I will have you all stick these funnels up your ass while I jack off
>you there, get the everclear
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>>222507013
Its just banter
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>>222509513
The fuck is an elephant walk? I boarded in a frat for two months in college, I just remember there were arrests when word got out about a bare knuckle fight club with the pledges, also one of the guys shaved one of the pledges balls which I don’t even know what you get from that.
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>>222509637
line them up naked in a circle, have them grab the guys junk in front of him from behind and or the junk behind him
walk
we didn't do that one, but its famous
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>>222506381
>Guy doesn't want to commit
>Woman keeps dating him
>This is somehow the man's fault
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>>222506381
Women's latest cope has been that they ackshually don't have a biological clock but it seems like they do haha
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>>222507950
>>222506381
I'm just gonna say if a woman did this my first instinct would be to think she was a lying whore.
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>>222506381
why does he look so bloated
was that real alcohol he was consuming on the Mad Men set
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Another Nick Reiner
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>>222506381
The MC in 500 days of summer is the bad guy because his ex also immediately moved on and committed to the next guy. The lesson is that all losers are villains who don't deserve any sympathy
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if anons in here want to commit suicide, take a conventionally attractive women with you
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>>222506822
My dad was 35 when I was born, my mom was 34.
Now I'm 33 and still live with my mom (my dad is dead).
It was over before it even began.
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He met his new girl during mad men, almost 20 years ago
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>>222506381
>strung along
Oh fuck off. Was she being held hostage? She could have left him whenever she wanted to.
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>>222506712
Dumps a jewess and then knocks up a young white woman. Nice.
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>>222506381
congratulations
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>>222507245
>Foids seem awfully upset about this useless clump of cells
It's not about that. High status males have more biological and social mobility in later life than women do wrt reproduction, and it's an arena that high status women literally can't compete in through any natural means. It sets a hard cap on their ability to equally compete in every arena that actually matters to them.

They hate that men have this. They *hate* it. They'd outlaw it if they could.
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>>222509297
It's pretty good but his character starts off as a loser and pushover, which strains credulity. IRL any guy as handsome as Jon Hamm is successful and looked upon favorably by men and women alike without even trying.
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>>222506381
Based
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>>222507817
India
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>>222506381
>Friendly reminder
That doesn't sound like a friendly reminder at all. More of a vitriolic reminder really.
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>>222506381
>Hamm was in his sophomore year at UT-Austin when a prospective 21-year-old pledge was called to the Sigma Nu house at 2.30am.

>When he got there, according to Travis County Court documents, Hamm - who was then aged 20 - and other frat brothers ominously told him, 'It's going to be a long night!'

>The unidentified junior was then allegedly subjected to two hours of brutal physical attacks as part of his fiery baptism into the fraternity.

>The alleged victim told police that Hamm and other members hit him with a paddle 30 times and then lifted the pledge off the floor by his underwear, 'pulling it back and forth in a sawing motion', causing 'great pain'.

>The pledged then claimed that Hamm led him to a basement 'Pit' where he slammed the junior's face into the ground while he was doing push-ups and then allegedly stood on his spine with his full weight.

>Shockingly, after this, Hamm is then supposed to have set fire to the pledge's pants and refused to let him pat the flames down, but instead made him blow them out.

>At the end of the vicious hazing ritual, the pledge was taken to a part of the frat house called the 'Party Room' where Hamm 'hooked the claw of a hammer underneath his genitals and led him by the hammer around the room'.

>Allegedly not content with this, Hamm then went onto to break into another potential pledge's room that night and subjected him to a similar torturous initiation.

>Eight warrants were issued for Hamm and seven other frat members, which was shut down for a time after the alleged incident.

>Three members of Sigma Nu were sentenced to 30 days in prison for the hazing ritual and Hamm was eventually hit with hazing and assault charges in 1991



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