Are Fremens just space taliban?
More like some Shia sect.
>>222515882Their religion is literally called Zensunni
>>222515851Paul is Lawrence of Arabia and the Fremen are the brave Arabian freedom fighters against the evil Ottoman and German Empires.
>>222516066No paul is an allegory of muhamad
>>222516083No, he's the Mahdi.
>>222515851There are fremen women shouldn't they be Frepersons?
>>222516101Paul literally does like 90% of the stuff the Prophet Muhammad doesAnd then there is 10% Lawrence of ArabiaTechnically he’s a composite character of Middle Eastern figures
>>222516136Paul is literally the outcast colonizer who comes to save the noble savages. He takes advantage of their superstitions and religions to become their "messiah".
>>222516136>Muhammad had a son who fused with a giant worm so he could become a tyrant, rule for 3000 years only to follow some autistic vision called "The Golden Path"
>>222516066This, it's just typical white savior bull shit written by some evil boomer who tries to excuse away colonialism. I'll never get my students to read this evil crap, even though the board may be including it in grade 11 English curricula in the next couple years. I love how Zendaya is getting my young BAME students into literature but I'm going to insist on my classroom we read only socially aware works by PoC. The Earthseed Series by Octavia E. Butler (beginning with Parable of the Sower) is what I have planned so far.
>>222515851The first Dune novel was releasted in 1965.The Taliban/Muhajadeen formed during the late 70s as a response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.The Taliban are just shitty Earth Fremen.
>>222515851They are Tharks+Muslims
>>222515851>you see this is a race that lives in absolutely dogshit conditions so they absolutely btfo every single army no matter how wealthy or trained or experienced they are>there's also another race that lives in even more dogshit conditions and they're so fucking powerful they absolutely btfo even that one undefeatable race!!herbert is a fucking HACK
>>222516266lol. Imagine some Afghan retard reading Dune in the late 70s, saying "yes, this is what we should be".
>>222515851taliban are insurgents, their biggest strenght is being able to constantly harass the regular army that can do little about it. they lose any conventional fight. fremens in dune were able to conduct a mass scale jihad on the entire galaxy. they're like arab conquerors from the 7th century.>>222516266taliban formed well after the soviets left afghanistan as a response to mujahideen warlords starting a war between each other
>>222515851Yes
>>222516136Des Paul freak out over images?
>>222515851feels good when a gril licks ur fremilen
Does the book explain how the sandniggers are able to fabricate space technology like their suits and thumpers while living in Zion from the Matrix? Dunc didn't make it believable at all.
>>222515851This is partly why I never liked the books. I also didn't like the overpowered space witches and royalty aspects, like a space fairing civilization (that are not bugs) would have a functioning monarchy.
>>222516375And yet to the exception of the early stages of islamic expansion and the formation of the proto muslim caliphates, there hasn't really ever been a successful case of jihad called on par with the christian crusades. Muslims are perfectly fine with seeing one another get bombed out of existence as long as they profit in some regard. Not too sure they have anything in common with the fremen.
>>222516136There is no real debate here, he's based on Imam Shamyl, "The lion of Dagestan" who lived in a Sietch fought against the Emperor (of Russia in this case). Herbert takes large chunks of Dune from Lesley Blanch's "Sabres of Paradise: Conquest and Vengeance in the Caucasus" almost word for word.Heres your Paul Atreides.
>>222516375>they lose any conventional fight.except for the time they drove USA out of Afghanistan and BTFO their pawns, becoming the only army left standing.
>>222515851>>222516266Frank Herbert wrote the Quran and invented Afghanistan.
>>222516914Don't draw pictures is one of the stupidest commandments of any major religion, jfc
>>222516968they sell lots of spice on the black market and can import necessary equipment.
>>222517182Not if you're bad at drawing
>>222516250This has to be stolen from reddit lol
>>222515851The whole space jihad boils down to flooding every single planet with retarded desert dwellers>the space merchant likes it
>>222517190They can leave the planet? I thought Acrackiss was basically their prison, and they just tripped balls on spice and worshipped worms all day.
The thing is in dune human civilization has been balkanized, homogenized, and speciated so many times and for so long that its silly to try and apply modern race identification with anyone.And it is so far into the future that earth is a completely forgotten about footnote in a forgotten about footnote. Yeah the fremen were inspired by arab raiders, but they're also gypsies with the language. >>222517358It is very expensive to travel an its pretty much restricted to the great houses. However spice is the most valuable commodity in the universe, and there are smugglers who operate in the deep desert and south pole.The navigator's guild are the primary purchasers of smuggled spice since it behooves them to have access to additional resources. In exchange for the help of the fremen the guild won't launch any satellites over the deep desert or southern hemipshere, so no one can see what the fremen are up to, or catch the smugglers in the act since spice hording is one of the most serious crimes in the empire (even if everyone did it who could, great pains were taken to ensure they remained super secret). Also the fremen don't want to actually go anywhere else. Dune is a shithole, but it is their shithole. Not to mention that everyone who lives in a sietch, eats the food, and participates in the spice orgy becomes connected to the collective unconscious of the community which they wouldn't want to leave behind. They're also used to such a naturally high daily dose of spice that they'd go broke affording the habit off world. The missionaria protectiva, which was the sisterhood implanting legends and myths in various religions so the sisterhood could use that as leverage. But since the fremen have that high mind and low-key collective prescience, these stories of a messianic savior, and the guidance of wild reverend mothers manipulates the universe into someday making the fremen ascension a reality.
>>222516250You're trying too hard
>>222515851Yes, much the way people of Dorne are Latino
>>222516283今寿司がほしいだよ
>>222516916Or you sniff your girls'
>>222517768People of dorne are blacks
>>222517182Ancient Jews had also such commandment.
>>222517171did they drive them out by launching combined arms offensives? or by ambushing patrols, raiding isolated outposts and organizing a vast network of civilian support?
>>222517182the intention was to have a safeguard against idolatry, where people worship the artifact instead of the meaning behind it. happens all the time in religion.
