>I am the Dragon. And you call me insane. You are privy to a great becoming, but you recognize nothing. To me, you are a slug in the sun.Okay so THAT just happened
>>222517852Red Dragon was better than Manhunter
how does one become this mindbroken by a william blake poem
Goddamn I love this fucking movie.>>222517898Congratulations on winning the gayest homo to ever fag gayly award Anon.
>>222517924most mentally ill people are dim/midwits, hence the disconnect from reality, if they could control their insanity they wouldn't be insane
>>222517852Tom Noonan seemed like nice thoughtful guy in real life. He nailed his type casting in Last Action Hero; poor guy. Was great at Sammy/Caden; lots of pathos.
>>222517924Get your dick put in scissors by your grandma while she calls you a filthy little beast enough times and you'll be mindbroken too m8.
>>222517924Blake was a visionary, if you have even a passing interest in art and poetry you will probably be moved by his work. Beyond that, insane people tend to form strange hyperfixations and see some deep personal meaning in unexpected places that calls to them and can become a significant pillar o their personality for whatever reason. Thirdly, Manhunter is pure kino and I will watch it again soon I think.
>>222517994He was one of my favorite character actors, he always brought his A game.
>>222517999fair enough. did she read him blake poems while this happened or something though?
>>222517994>>222518024Genuinely still mad he didn't get a sticky on here. His performance as Dollarhyde is probably my favorite acting performance in any film.
>>222517994I gotta watch that movie again. I remember really enjoying it and how stylized things like the fake eyes of Sardo Numspa and Noonan's axe were but it's been years and years since I've seen it. It was one of those HBO afternoon staple flicks when I was a kid.
>>222518029I can't remember exactly how he came upon Blake, it's been ages since I've read the book but it's a great read and goes way deeper into Dollarhyde and what made him the way he is. He's a sick murdering fuck but the book goes so far into his backstory from childhood and things like his facial deformity and torture he endured that you almost feel sympathy for the guy even with all the heinous shit he did.
>>222517994You guys should watch pic rel if you haven't, written, directed by and starring Noonan. It's all in one location, showing a first date between his character and a woman.
>>222517852This guy still has to wake up and take a shit first thing in the morning so he doesn't scare me. If it shits, I can kill it.
>>222518106Buy an ad already you taco bender. If you hadn't posted this shit so many times for no reason in threads that had nothing to do with it I might have actually watched it and gave you some tips and helped you out. Now I just want you to fucking die. t. Actual working Hollyjew writer/producer/director.
>>222518207I would watch it but going by the premise and that poster it feels like I would be watching one of my home movies. :(
>>222517852You are right, Dragon (2024) is a masterpiece, AI Wonhttps://watch.plex.tv/movie/dragon-2024
>>222518263That's the beauty of it, it's a film centered around a very mundane, relatable and believable situation. A simple premise, just well written/acted.
>>222517852Manhunter: You should be in aweRed dragon: YOU should BE in AWE!Hannibal: YOUSHUBEINAWE!
>>222517852Seth Rogen as Freddie Lounds.
He is literally me
>>222518305in a movie?
>>222518303In Manhunter he says "You OWE me AWE." which I think is much better and shows how powerful he thinks he is as The Red Dragon.
>>222518337No, just the wheelchair scenes, in real life.
STRONG AS I AM
so how is the final cut?
>>222518371Do you think he'd die while having that famous Seth Rogen 'huehuehuehue' laugh?
>>222518378STRONG ASS I AM
>>222518303Manhunter: Freddie Lounds is a super sleazebag journo played by Quaritch from Avatar.Red Dragon: He's just a slightly sleazy journo played by over 9000 bags of heroin man in one of his worst acting performances.>Hannibal: He's a hot redhead chick who helps solve cases with the FBI and takes pictures sometimes.I enjoyed Hannibal but come the fuck on man.
>>222518378The soundtrack for that movie is A+. One of the few I own on vinyl.
>>222518403I'd hope it would be more screaming and begging as he gets the dragon's kiss and then burns alive, but as long as he dies I'm giving it four stars.
>>222517852There was no proof he wasn’t really the red dragon
>>222517969t.dimwit
>>222518462They pushed the envelope with that show being on network TV but it would have been so much better on HBO. We would have got Scully and FemFreddie naked for one, plus it definitely would have gone the full five seasons that were planned and maybe Bowie would have still been alive to play Hannibal's Uncle like originally planned.
>>222517852I sexually assaulted my neighbours using a frozen baby
>>222518378ironic considering none of the live action portrayals looked very strong
>>222518413You owe me DUBS!
>>222517898No it fucking wasn't. Philip Seymour Hoffmann was a step up from that asshole from Avatar, but that's it. Tom Noonan was FAR more fucking creepy than Ralph Fiennes. And Brian Cox was refreshingly interesting as Lecter.
>>222517994
>>222518069He died??? Shit, I didn't know.I've been offended by a great many sticky snubs here over the years.
>>222518207Thanks for the reco anon
>>222518646They say in the book he was an amateur bodybuilder (80's speak for lifted weights in his grandma's attic while hearing her scream and call him an ugly filthy little beast in his head) but tall and not very stocky with strength matching that of a much more muscular man so Noonan was perfect for the role. Harris did the same strength powerlevel above their appearance stuff with Hannibal.
>>222518720>I didn't jump Sammy!
>>222518565You're on the list.
HEARTBEAT! HEARTBEAT! LISTEN TO MY HEEEAAAARTBEEEEEAAAAT! WHOA-OOOO!
yeah I thought Noonan and Hopkins did the “unassuming man with uber retard strength” parts very well
>>222518821the list made up by a projecting dimwit? oh no!
It still cracks me up that Harris got forced by Dino De Laurentiis and his publisher into making another Hannibal book and movie and he purposefully just threw together the biggest pile of dogshit he possibly could to give them.
>>222518951No, by the dimwit that has already killed 12 people who have smartmouthed him on 4chan. You are an ant in the afterbirth. Before me you rightfully tremble. You are witness to a great shitposting yet you mock me. YOU. OWE. ME. A 4CHAN PASS!
>>222518635Haha what a story, Red Dragon
>>222518967I remember when it was coming out and he was doing his forced press tour and telling everyone it was shit and to not buy it.>Literally me when I still bought it and read it and watched the movie
>>222519085Forgot my pic because I'm retarded.
>>222518967>>222519085>>222519139That's one of those so bad it's good movies you watch with friends that have seen the other movies and just laugh at it. I feel bad for the guy who played Hannibal because it basically tanked his career as a lead actor but he did his best with what he had, then he ends up dying.
>>222519270I always forget he was in Brotherhood of the Wolf, then I re-watch it and everytime say hey that's young hannibal. That movie fucking rules. I've never played Bloodborne but I heard From took a ton of inspiration from it for the game.
>>222519372I've seen that movie like three times. I've seen Monica Belluci's nude scenes from that movie 7,394 times.
>>222519618She was so ridiculously hot in that movie.
>>222517898Red Dragon was Bollywood tier compared to the gritty realism of Manhunter.
I tried doing this speech to my parents when I was 17 and they were bitching about my grades. My Dad punched me in the stomach and told me to get a job. ;_;
>>222520535You forgot to tie him to a wheelchair first dummy
>>222517852I like the scene after when he turned into a purple dragon, looked at the camera and said "looks like I've got some things to do" and glided away
>>222520565Oh yeah... FUCK.
>>222520641Anon, did you by any chance forget to take your medication the day you watched this?
>>222518852Kino
>>222518207>What Happened Was...And its sequel written and directed by Joss Whedon: "So THAT Just Happened."
>>222518852It's been so long since I've watched any cut of Manhunter that wasn't the fancut with all of the deleted scenes redone and restored, do the other versions also end with Will and his family on the beach as that song plays? That was a perfect song to end it with but I can't remember if the other versions have that song after they rescue the sea turtle babies and Will is with his family again or not too.
https://youtu.be/fywNBuzD2SU?si=iAnrMrOt1PYUsJme
>>222521366What is different about this "final cut" in particular? There are like seven different versions of the movie out there and that's not even counting the ones made by people on fanedits.
>>222521342Of all the ones I have seen they do end with that song on the beach with the kid throwing stones into the ocean.
>>222518069THIS is how I find out Tom Noonan died earlier this year?What the FUCK?
What other movies like Manhunter are there that aren't To Live and Die In LA? Or at least with a similar vibe? I've been trying to download Black Rain for two days because someone recommended it to me but the fucking torrent is stalled.
>>222521623Sorry Anon. We repped him hard in a bunch of threads but he didn't get a sticky because he wasn't some reality TV show faggot or hasbeen whore.
>>222517924Do the words>touch grassnot tell you what you need to know?If you spend literal decades of your life hyper fixating on your self disgust, your brain has this amazing ability to compensate to keep you from killing yourself.The concept of "hope" has as much negative connotation as it does positive. It just depends on what side of the line you are.
>>222521765Have you been following your own grass touching advice? This is a bit of a strange post
>>222521763I know that whole "every frame is a painting" thing gets tossed around a lot, but I honestly think this is one of the films that comes as close to that being true as it gets.
>>222521676I'd also like to know this. I have black rain on my to watch list and also blow out and thief. Someone told me to check out Midnight Express but it doesn't seem like the same style or type of film at all from the trailers I saw.
Hannibal TV > Manhunter > SotL > Red Turd > mega gapping hole > Hannibal > Hannibal Rising
>>222522495>Hannibal TV >get fucked retard
>>222522495Manhunter > Silence > TV > Hannibal (Julianne Moore being hot, Oldman as Verger, the Italian setting, and Ray Liotta eating his own brain put this one higher by those things alone) > Red Dragon > That time I went down the huge 200ft long metal slide at the park when I was a kid and it was super hot and dry out and it pulled my underwear so far up my ass that I thought my asshole got ripped in half > Hannibal Rising
>>222522870Get filtered, pleb.
>>222517852How can people get tattoos so close to their tit? That's gotta be extremely uncomfortable.
>>222522475>>222521676>Expecting /tv/ to know more than surface level knowledge of filmsBad call Ripley. You might enjoy Chaser, Humanité, Citizen X, Romeo Is Bleeding, River, The Lady From Shanghai, and The ABC Murders. It's very difficult to find films with a similar style to Manhunter though because Mann's direction and cinematography are so unique, so don't expect a 1:1.
>>222522475Midnight Express is shitThief is meh (fuck you Mannboys)Blow Out is fucking great.
>>222523370MANN RULES, WHILE YOU DROOL!Sorry if that was too mean.
>>222523181Well he had some experience with pain being a tortured sadistic serial killer, so I doubt it was all that bad for him Anon.
>>222521763Fucking hell. He's never had a role I didn't like, RIP to a literal Big Guy For You
>>222523658He honestly singlehandedly takes Robocop 2 from a 0/10 movie (like 3 and the remake) to a 5.5/10 movie
>>222517898the Manhunter soundtrack fucks. Graham's Theme specifically
>>222518176Anon did you like the ending if hannibal? It was the greatest experience ever for me . Such a treat
I like the WW2 parts of Hannibal Rising because it has Rhys Ifans as bad guy. The rest is meh
>>222523940The TV show or the film? The film was meh, I preferred the book ending because of how fucked up it was. The TV show ending, I can hardly remember it to be completely honest.
>>222517898funnily enough I'm re watching manhunter and it feels dated and corny in some aspects, soon after I will re watch Red Dragon and compare, But the Book is pure Kino
Is the novel worth reading?
>>222517898They're both flawed gems.
>>222524297>I preferred the book ending because of how fucked up it was. Ti meant the book since you were talking about reading the book. The book ending was so amazing. When I started getting into it I was shoked, considering how close Silence of the Lambs book is to the movie. Red Dragon movie was decent, book was great, but Hannibal book ending was so intense I loved it
>>222524411All 3 in the trilogy are incredible, and Thomas Harris should be credited as one of the great American authors. Do yourself a favor and read the books anon. Read them in order and enjoy.
>>222524578Yeah that shit shocked me too lel. I still think sometimes about whether Clarice is playing the long game by placating Lecter or if she's really fallen for him and joined him.. Harris did great with that ending and it should have been left there like he planned, no prequel stuff or anything, we already knew about Mischa and his upbringing being the catalysts for who he became. It didn't need an entire novel dedicated to telling us what we already knew by reading between the lines.
>>222524940>no prequel stuff or anything,Hannibal Rising was pressured from the studios if I remember correctly. Harris just wanted to keep it with the trilogy. Based on how intense and brutal the drug induced psychotherapy was, and the apparent catharsis Clarice had by being able to "speak" to her daddy in the state, it makes me think that she was both consciously giving herself fully to Hannibal as a thank you, but also that Hannibal had somewhat altered her brain chemistry and broke her in a way you break a horse. It was his way of loving her. My favorite, absolute favorite part was when Barney was at the Opera in South America with his girlfriend, and he see's Clarice with a man he doesn't recognize, and utters Clarice's name, and the man he doesn't recognize's face turns from the stage directly to Barney's face, and Barney knew immediately who was looking at him. It was so perfect it made me laugh out loud hysterically. I hope it did the spoiler right it's been a while
>>222524940Sadly he had no choice. The hebrew and, Allah forgive me for even uttering the word, Italian Hollywood alliance was going to sue him into poverty if he didn't shit out another novel. Never forget Dino De Laurentiis is the reason there is over 9000 versions of Manhunter and other Mann films amongst other directors and writers he absolutely fucked over. That nigger is burning in hell. >Captcha: find the six sided star. OH I HAVE CAPTCHA, I HAVE!
>>222525085>>222524940>>222524578Women or gays? Because the movie ending was much better.
>>222525178Women and gays hated the book ending you fucking monkey.
>>222525085Yep, that was awesome. Barney was one of my favorite characters in the books, and he was much more fleshed out into more than just a guard/nurse, because he seemed to be one of the only people that understood Hannibal's mind and actions worked on a respect scale. You show him respect and he'll show it back no matter who you are (and not eat you). Donald Faison was great as him in the films too, his minor screentime notwithstanding.
>>222525178I'm a big hairy mountain of a man that sweats test and you are gay as fuck breh.
>>222517898Nooooooo
>>222525217Yeah. The Red Dragon movie was really great too, but I suppose it's rather difficult to put on screen what the Dragon went through as heavily as it was detailed in the books. It's a bit unfortunate because it adds way more depth to the character when you understand what made him that way. I completely agree with your comments on Barney, same with the actor's performance. Great casting. Really happy I ran into someone that read the book. Thanks anon. Is silence of the lambs a comfort movie for you too? I've seen it so many times.
>>222518967i don't mind thatit's alright with a nice european settingit's a time capsule of the past last moment before the world changed 2007
>>222524595>All 3 in the trilogy are incredible, and Thomas Harris should be credited as one of the great American authorsThey're that good? I'll have to check it out then.
>>222525302100%. I've seen SotL and Manhunter so many times I can't even remember the amount. I have original one sheets from both movies framed on the wall in my home theater and I own multiple unopened copies of both on VHS that are on a shelf in there too lel.
>>222517852>all the stills of the movie ive seen have him covered in those tatts>every cut of the actual movie i've seen so far has the tattoos missing.
>>222525178Women screeched about the book ending when it came out for obvious reasons, and still do to this day, ya fuckin dingus.
>>222521676Thief. Blow Out.
>>222525965*Both 1981 films
>>222525944This. Their self insert girlboss character who don't need no man got turned into a subservient fuckslave for the bad guy.
>>222525875Lol. Fuck yeah anon. I think we'd be good friends. Happy to have met you tonight.
>>222517852He had big areolas, Tom Noonan?
>>222521676Black Rain is on Pluto TV for free. I just found out myself. I don't know if that stuff on there is cut or not but I don't think it is and I'm not seeing any ads.
I think in the book he was supposed to be a really buff guy wearing metal teeth
>>222526013You too bro.
>>222517994here he is in Easy Money hanging out with his pals at the track
>>222526184Nah see >>222518763 and it was partially metal dentures but they were molded after his grandma's teeth that she used to pick on him because of his cleft palate so basically the same as in the movie.
>>222517852As much as I love Thomas Harris' book Manhunter and the movie, I really, really don't like Silence of the Lambs for trying to present serial killers to the public as these tragic, super killers when, in real life, they are just delusional, mentally ill losers. Pic very much related.
>>222517852Why yes Im a slug in the sun, how could you tell
>>222522880>That time I went down the huge 200ft long metal slide at the park when I was a kid and it was super hot and dry out and it pulled my underwear so far up my ass that I thought my asshole got ripped in halfaudible kek
>>222517898This but unironically. I can't stand the 80s synthwave shit. Norton, Fiennes and Hopkins are better too
>>222522880>> That time I went down the huge 200ft long metal slide at the park when I was a kid and it was super hot and dry out and it pulled my underwear so far up my ass that I thought my asshole got ripped in half
>>222525759Different Anon here, They are they are good I have only read the first 2, I will get to the third eventually
>>222517994he was in monster squad too
>>222517924You ever see Dead Man?
I don't get it
>tfw no qt 3.14 blind gf
>>222518514Hannibal Freddie would definitely be the type who would fuck people to get scoops.
>>222517852The William Blake paintings that show the Red Dragon from the front look really silly.
>>222526529third is the best one
>>222526677Yeah, he played the little sister. Guy had RANGE.
>>222526946Sweet even looking forward to it more
>>222526419>>222526481>>222522880Nice to know others know that awful terrible feel. How about when it felt fine at first because the top was in the shade and then as you kept going down it set the whole back of your body on fire because it had been in the gorillion degree sun for hours? That was really fun.
The music playing in THAT scene in manhunter is awful enough to ruin the whole movie for me. Great lecter, but then again its easy to be a good lecter.The books are just better. Theres too much to the characters to cram into 2 hours or thereabouts.yes, the show is the only thing that takes enough time to flesh things out. sorry manhunter hipsters.
>>222526282I forgot he was in Easy Money desu not the best script
>>222526282Post a pic with more talentyou can't
>>222518462I hated how they subverted things for sake of subverting. Its like Caped Crusader Batman. It follows no deeper thought, it just a cheap "remember this? its not!". Female freddy was shit. Doing Hannibal before Clarice was shit. If you didnt have the rights for Clarice, then just dont do Hannibal. They had to cut the last 2 seasons of Red dragon in half, but they have an extra season for a shittier version of Hannibal
>>222518720based Bianchi just about to win another libertadores
>>222518967>I ruined my legacy on purpose!They know they can crack it and they pretend they ruined it to own the studio. The trannoskies did the same with Matrix 4. Once they realized it was going to be shit, because the actual team that made it non shit wasnt there, they just pretended it was intended to be shit.Same stuff that the game of thrones fatso will probably end up doing.
>>222517852Did Noonan get a sticky when he died?>>222517898You’re wrong but that’s okay.
>>222526184>this was considered Auschwitz tier by deranged capeshitters who expected a cg blob in a nolan movie
>>222526327That was Ted Bundy, not Lecter. Lecter was already builtg upon Ted Bundy myth. The truth is that as you say most serial killers arent charming smart assholes like Ted Bundy
>>222522367>>222521763This movie is shit
>>222529956But Ted Bundy wasn't a ten steps ahead of you superhuman like Lecter was; he got caught for reckless driving.
