>Tony B you just fucked me with Johnny Sack by acting like a free agent and killing Joey Peeps but you're my couzin and you went to da can so here's a casino for you to run!Criminal Mastermind® Tony Soprano
Tony B, my favorite cousin, my best friend, like a brother I never had, and not mentioned once even in passing until the fifth season!
>>222530823Tony was a terribad boss.
>>222530823Long John Silver, maybe
>tony blunders>blunders
>>222530823who said he was a mastermind? does the show rise and fall on him being a mastermind?wtf is this gay retarded post?
that animal OP, I can’t even (you) his post…
>>222530945I genuinely try to forget season 5 exists for this reason. Such a fucking infuriating aspect of this show.
>>222530945The show would be a lot better if they took two or three season to set up every character they didn't meet for the first time. Tony could be talking to the boys on the boat in season 2 that now that Pussy was whacked it reminded him of his arch nemesis Feech Lamanna whom he always felt inferior to, and how while it was sad Pussy's dead, at least he still has his cousin Tony to look forward to releasing from jail sometime in the next 5 years.
>>222530823OP, the point of this arc was that the one legged russian chick was sexy as hell and I would repeatedly.
>>222530973This. It's the whole point of the show, really, him self-destructing.
Tony is overly emotional, and that makes him a bad boss. The same applies to Johnny Sack and Phil. Each one let their emotions override good sense.Tony whacks his top earner over a horse.
>>222531548Feech was brought up in S3, anon.
>>222531692but Ralph did kill the horse and if he did that he’ll eventually make a move on tony
>>222531692>The same applies to Johnny Sack and Phil. Each one let their emotions override good sense.I wouldn't say that. Johnny and Phil's anger over Tony B interfering in their business was justified. Their positions were fair in all of it. Tony got it in his head that he was equal to the NY bosses and was in a place to dictate terms but they're the ones who really had the power.
>>222531732Johnny Sack was willing to kill Carmine Sr because he refused to sanction a kneejerk execution over a joke, someone who was making their family millions. He wanted to clip a boss over almost nothing.Phil is just generally insecure and an asshole who couldn't let go of slights either, which is why Butch turned on him (How dumb do you have to be to threaten him too, when he's your lifeline?). Butch honestly would make a better boss, and probably did, because he only cared about putting food on the table and keeping his guys paid.
>>222531779>He wanted to clip a boss over almost nothing.Ralphie wasn't a boss and he was justified. Even Junior backs up Johnny's position, anon. As we saw, Vito did an even better job with it. >Butch honestly would make a better boss, and probably did, because he only cared about putting food on the table and keeping his guys paid.You forget who was pushing Phil to put things into action, anon? Again, Phil's position was solid. Butchie just fucked up the execution.
>>222531693That's why Feech is a great character but Phil is garbage.
>>222531468Bravo, Tolkien
>>222531851I didn't say Ralphie, I said Carmine Sr. Johnny was fully prepared to kill the boss of his own family because he told him to let a joke go (With $250,000 in his pocket).Butchie counselled but Phil didn't need any pushing whatsoever. He was raring to go because he (emotionally) couldn't deal with Vito being a faggot, and his brother got clipped.
>>222531721Ralph never would've made a move. He was on top of everything, barring his private life. Also, Tony already demonstrated that he would rather have killed Johnny Sac than let Ralph be killed, so maybe he had some loyalty from that.
>>222531998>Ralph never would've made a move.Ralph is the most moviest move-maker who ever moved. Ralph already planned to kill Tony earlier over a hoah, because it seemed preferable to apologising. He also encouraged Jackie Aprile to get into the game in the worst way, possibly just because he's a psychopath who loves to see people get hurt. Ralph constantly tested boundaries and wanted more for himself, and desperately wanted recognition from others. Ralph not making a move is an insane take, he's a professional shit stirrer with an advanced degree in being a problem.
>>222532090>Ralph already planned to kill Tony earlier over a hoah, because it seemed preferable to apologising.what show did blud watch
>>222532168The one where he tells Johnny Sac that "he's not leaving me a lot of options here" and Sac angrily and instantly responds that this line of thinking is suicidal. Perhaps he meant stock options? Or perhaps dining options?
>>222532268>what is posturingWhen Ralph said he'd "fuck Tony and his turkey"What could he have meant here? Was he really going to stick a drumstick up Tony's ass? I can't figure it out
>>222530973Yeah lmao at retards treating Tony being an overemotional shortsighted dipshit as a plot hole or something
>>222530823Almost as if Tony constantly jeopardises himself and his family through his stupid and innate nepotism, like making his junky nephew a made man.
>>222533165Tony and Tony B's entire relationship was Tony feeling guilty over him having a panic attack the night Tony B got hauled off. Once Tony offloaded that guilt, and Tony B didn't really give a fuck, that gave Tony the mental green light to kill him. He had nothing to be guilty over so now he can go.
What didn’t make sense was Tony giving him so much free shit but him still feeling the need to go do a hit for money like he’s some low level goon.
>>222530823You do realise Tony Soprano's name is a joke, right?>Anthony Soprano SeniorASS
do you kids even pay attention to the fucking shows you’re watching? long john silver was the culprit, tony b told tony a that. the fire at the stables? pic-related is classic “showing instead of telling”. it was the goat.
>>222532090I see you take it in the ass. How's that working out for you?
>>222531693Actually is S2 by Ritchie Aprile
>>222535735>>222538075That sounds very gay.
>>222530945I've started skipping everything with Steve Buscemi in it.
>first tony character is called "tony A">new tony character is called "tony B"
>>222539860Allow me to introduce my nephew, Anthony 'Tony' Capidicosa. He's a big deal in the Maine mafia.
>>222531721there's a huge difference in killing an animal for a quick profit when it turns out to be a mediocre investment versus killing a made guy and your boss
>>222531693How would you feel if he wasn't brought up in S3?
Am I the only one that likes season 5? I like Buscemi's character.
>>222530823>Criminal Mastermind® Tony Sopranodo you think the point of the show was to show what a great leader tony soprano is?
>>222531851No he didn’t he agreed with Tony that nothing was proven and John wouldn’t even tell Tony who was basically mutinying
I know Tony feels guilty and gives Tony B the casino and shit. But is Tony basically overstating or romanticizing how close they were as part of his guilt complex? Or is that part real
>>222531692How come literally every mook is his "best earner" when it comes time to get rid of them?
>>222542032Yes, I started it to learn how to run a family
>>222530945The writers didn't think of him until then. I know you know this, but you must ACCEPT it. If you want continuity, read a novel or watch a movie
>>222542699Step 1. Buy son a carStep 2. Break front wind shield of carStep 3. Tell him violence is wrongAnd they told me parenthood would be a challenge... Fucking morons.
