Actually tragic if this is the end. He put decades into this project and the story is far from over.https://www.nme.com/news/film/james-cameron-implies-hes-done-making-avatar-films-and-is-ready-to-move-on-3961241
>>222613857imagine paying money to watch this trashmy mom and aunt went to see the second one and when they came back they said they wish they went to see top gun maverickwhoever gaslit this faggot into thinking people wanted more of these stupid blue monkeys, bravo
>>222613857Make Alita II now, kthx
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>>222613929This. Good that he stops doing this trash.
>no more anti-white nativist navel gazingBased Cameron
>>222613857The biggest problem with avatar is that Sully and whatever the fuck her name is, and the whole family are FUCKING BORING.If fire and ash had been only about sexy varaang and quarich betraying humanity for poontang, and they gave varaang actual tits the movie woulda done ten trillion unobtaniumillion dollarsThere is nowhere to go with the franchise. What is this shit ass family going to do next time? Move again? We gonna see another tribe of avatars?God... No thanks, I'll fucking pass. The only path for the franchise to take is to dial in on actual good writing and story telling because the visuals, while impressive, are not mindblowing like they once were, and it would still be ridiculously expensive-- assuming they don't make the switch to AI.
>>222613857He don't want Nolan to do all the cooking.
>>222613857Avatar died with Jon Landau
>>222613857He’s tired of showing the same story 3 times?
Space cat cartoons for brown children
>>222614281Cameron has simply written himself into a corner as there is no plausible way for his indigenous blue aliens to win against humanity
>>222614281O-oh my...
>>222616186No, he's not in a corner. He knew from the start that they wouldn't win. He's already said that the last movie will be on destroyed Earth where the remnants of the Na'vi are fleeing to try and restart life there since Pandora is fucked. There's not exactly many other habitable planets but humans don't care about anything other than record profits
>>222614281This is what Cameron dreams about at night
>>222613857He's such a pathetic little bitch. One movie made less than he wanted so now he's throwing a tantrum and threatening to take his ball and go home. James Cameron's ego is so inflated and fragile, and it has never been deserved. Just finish the shit you forced on us for 16 years because you claimed to be passionate about it and be grateful anyone cared to watch to begin with.
>>222615066sad but true
>>222613857I watched the first one when it came out, hated it. Never even bothered to pay attention to the second one. I don't give a shit about this movie, never have, never will. It's really a sign of the times that people enjoy such pig slop of movies. Modern movies died when Avatar 1 was made.
>>222616519>humans don't care about anything other than record profitsJames Cameron is proving this true in real time as he decides to not finish his story due to the films no longer achieving that kek
Someone should just make a compilation of all Tuk scenes because you those are the only good parts
>>222613857He should fucking finish it. If this was your fucking dream story you would wanted it complete also.
>>222613857Here's how he can save this soulless franchiseMake a pseudo documentary on the wildlife voiced by Attenborough. No space marines, no navii, just wildlife.
>>222613857Hell be dead soon from the vaxxStupid faggot re-used everything from way of water, including the fucking script, and tried to rip people off into paying for a 4th by forcing them to see the shitty third one. Id beat the shit out of him myself if I could get away with it
Wait, so the the last Avatar with fire & ash is the last one? I thought he had a whole series planned out.
>>222613857A shame because these movies really added flavor in these bland, corpo-whipped times of film.
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>>222618076Ever gone a day without being performatively disingenuous?
>>222613857If you'd bother to actually read the article you'd know 4 and 5 are still scheduled, with 4 being pretty much already filmed.
>>222618126Ever tried once actually making sense?
>>222618270Are you suggesting Avatar is bland and corpo-whipped? Because that would be a very stupid suggestion, even trollingly.
>>222613857I wonder if it'll actually start losing money by 5.Every new installment lost money around 8-900 million dollars adjusted for inflation.And last time Camegoon actually had to preface the fucking movie by saying it has no AI in it, which means that things are dire BECAUSE THE SOULLESS BUGMAN AUDIENCE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TELL WITHOUT BEING TOLD EXPLICITLY.By the time the next one releases AI will outpace it in quality.It is horrible though, that a literal empty bugman visual slop film could be the highest grossing movie of all time. There are no "humans" on this planet. Only literal freak consoomtard fleshgolems. SUB bug men. Unter-unter-mensch. Anti-mensch.Anyway, the last one FINALLY had good porn material in it, with basically a native BDSM goth mommy alien, the singular redeeming quality of the entire franchise. If the last movie will be her and her sisters being blown the fuck asunder by human dick for 3 hours, maybe I'll consider watching it.
>>222614281Moar...
>>222618483>It is horrible though, that a literal empty bugman visual slop film could be the highest grossing movie of all time. There are no "humans" on this planet. Only literal freak consoomtard fleshgolems. SUB bug men. Unter-unter-mensch. Anti-mensch.It would be great if a film without CGI became one of the highest-grossing films in history.
>>222618714Based CR
>>222613857Oh no anyway.avif
>>222614109Uh, the hero of the story (Spider) is a white guy
zero cultural impact
>>222613857My grandmother loved these movies so much and she walked out halfway through the third one. Nice job wasting 9 fucking hours on no story cuckmeron.
>>222621491isn't this like an 80 year old woman?
>>222613857It would be a fun meme if he produces "the most expensive" VR film. I know Alita was one of his projects he always wanted to do, was he a weeb about some other anime?>>222618714Only positives were Weta's 3d tech advancement with fire and water simulations during those films.
>>222621491He's a hero because he's shedding his imperialist white privilege and siding with the nativist tribefor the record, i like avatar, they're entertaining and well made but they are what they are
>>222622420>for the record, i like avatar, they're entertaining and well madeoh wow this guy seems smart>they are what they areoh its a npc person mimic human behavior
>>222613929Makes sense your crusty dusty Karens would rather watch a gay ass Tom Cruise movie than scifi made for white boys
>>222613857>he thought the Avatar movies would improve the worldi think James Cameron is not a genius after all
>>222613857>He put decades into this project and the story is far from over.He said the third movie was the end of the first arc. The 3rd and 4th movies were an entirely different story arc. So it's basically over.
papyrus
>>222622583>Makes sense your crusty dusty Karens would rather watch a gay ass Tom Cruise movie than scifi made for white boys
>>222613857>the story is far from over.Maybe if he used Fire and Ash to progress the plot instead of just rehashing Way of Water, that wouldn't be the case.
>>222613857Ash and Fire was a misfire not just in terms of storytelling but also production. That movie should've been made and released in 2023, a year after Wow. A shame because the movies are pretty good and I want him to finish the story. Jake and Kiri's arcs are dying to be completed. It'd be sad if after all this build-up we only got a graphic novel, or worse a poorly animated Disney+ show. There has to be a way of making these cheaper and quicker with AI. But I doubt Jim has the balls to do it.
>>222622962Calling it a rehash completely misses the point of it's place in the story. Way of Water and Ash and Fire are two halves of a single piece.
>>222613857butthurt hater fake news. We WILL get avatar 4-6
>>222613857>the story is far from over.Then why did he do the second movie twice?
>$1.49 billion box office >this is a flip so bad the series is over/tv/ was right? I’m scared.
>>222616655Was looking for something like this.
>Avatar 4 and 5 remain scheduled for 2029 and 2031 respectively, and part of the fourth film has reportedly already been filmed, but after the release of Fire And Ash, Cameron implied that he now planned to “pull back from being as hands-on with every tiny aspect of the process”.>He also said in May that he would ideally like to make the next two films “in half the time for two thirds of the cost”.They’re still happening you morons.
>>222613857He's done because the third film didn't make enough money so now the studios won't finance any more of these
>>222617844It doesn't matter what you plan if you can't make the last two movies
>>222614281Actually the biggest problem is that female na'vis don't look like the ones in your video, unironically.
>>222624500Small-to-no-tits lets flat chested women not feel left out and lets chested women feel good. Business 101, anon.
>>222621941>James... Let me be jailbait... one last time...
>>2226138573 felt like he was running out of ideas and just copied 2 instead of making something newif he can't do better maybe it's time to let it go, yeah
>>222623749so, the film version of having them ghostwritten?
jimmy has been OBSESSED with these blue fucks since way back before filming atlantis or w/e. this canacuck stopped filming all the robokino, which he stole btw, for this
>>222613857Ending the franchise by making the same 2 movies in a row with the same cliffhanger ending for both of them would be a very "bino" (based+kino) move
>>222613857>Billions spent on multiple films>Still culturally irrelevantHe should've retired thirty years ago.
>>222613857Fake news fake news fake news
>>222613857Good, they were fucking shit
>>222613857>and the story is far from over.this, there's so much that he could do. Like have Quaritch kidnap Jake's children and hold them hostage to bait Jake.
>>222613857This is Nolan envy. He cant stand Nolan getting all the adulation for Odyssey and Oppenheimer before that, now he wants back in so he can prove he's top dog.
>>222626897Cameron mogs Nolan so hard it's not even funny
He should’ve stopped after Avatar 1. It’s perfectly self contained and entertaining. The only beat left is Quarich having his road to Damascus moment and telling Spider he’s sorry for his toxic masculinity and he’s proud of him and He’s With Her.Amis was hot as fuck in the 80s but Cameron becoming a full blown lefty simp is tiresome
Neytiri should have a bigger role in avatar 4-6
>>222626897Well, in that case Cameron should leave the Avatar franchise behind and come back with a new blockbuster.I'm sure the public will want to see something different with him as director
>>222613857I don't really get why he kept making them, but I didn't even really like the first one.
>>222613857That's ok.
>>222613857He wasted half his career on CGI slop that AI can now produce instantly. Should have stuck to practical effects and makeup.
>>222613857NOOOOOOO
These stories need to END, we don't need the expanded universe, we don't need to know what happened next, or before.. Time is eternal, so what's the point? We need something fresh and original.
>>222614281i'm so fucking hard right now
>>222627753Neytiri should be killed off. Her role in the story is long done. All she has left is anger and suffering.
>>222613857as someone who saw Avatar 1 9 times in the cinema I'm okay with this. the sequels weren't awful but it's become obvious that Jim didn't have a huge epic narrative in mind and was just trying to retain control of the material by pretending he had a viable 5 movie arc ready to go. the guy could direct 2 movies a year until he's 90 if he wanted, his autism is better applied elsewhere.
>>222629318He did have a good story. He knows where it was going. However there was obviously behind the scenes drama of some sort that forced him to change almost the entire story of 3 on relatively short notice. Most of the confusing scenes are remnants of what was supposed to be happening but was changed like the energy vortex.
>>222629166HISS!
>>222623589people never take into account marketing and the various cuts of different entities, and the fact that now post cinema money is tiny, so they need to make big money in the cinemas now which is something that wasn't necessarily true before streamingthat's why people saying odyssey doing 1 bil is good are retardedI would bet the execs are very unhappy about tit
>>222613857Good. The Way of Water was a bloated mess and killed the series. Why wait 15 years between films only to make shit?
>>222630086That's their own fault for spending so much on marketing that obviously didn't work. It's not the movie's fault. It's not like you can make the movie double good so it brings in 3 billies to justify 1 billy in marketing
>finally introduce a hot villain >stops making moviesFuck
>>222613857Based mental gymnastic Cameron. He's just searching for a new right hand man isnce John Landau has passed away, once he has him he'll be back on board. It's all politics, he will get what he wants, I doubt he will let the twist of the avatar series end the way it does.
>>222630265He's waiting for John Landau's clone to mature a bit. Cameron has used his billies to make real human cloning technology
>>222613857>man after subjecting everyone to two decades of avatar slop: yeah I think I'm doneno way fag
>>222630185they just spend too much money on movies attendance is lower so they have to jack up the prices in returnthe whole thing is retardedwe used to make better movies for cheaperthey can't even make 500m movies that are better than 7 imdb ratings flicks from the 90s, it's ridiculous
>>222627799He bought the rights to a Joe Abercrombie novel so I'm guessing that's what he'll make next
>>222613857who the fuck cares, its the some afro-centric alien monkey shit with the depth of a puddle and CGI that became irrelevant after the first movie, like we only ever just needed 1 film desu
I'm so torn.Imagine he finally makes something else original, and it turns out he's legitimately lost it rather than Avatar just being a weak IP
>>222613857Put Michael Bay on the project
>>222632037I want this, unironically.
>9 hours of film about blue space injuns>the story is still "far from over"that's sad if true, OP
It's amazing the strength of the fake hysteria against Avatar. It's as impressive as it is sad. They're really upset that everyone loves Avatar and it does so well when it's the only original series left that's not decades late sequels to forty year old films nor slop for zoomers. It's the one film that still has 90s values including strong nuclear family values and traditional roles for parents, boys, and girls rather than forcing in fags and destruction of the family model. If they had it their way, Jake would have run away after knocking up Neytiri, she would be a fat single mother but she don't need a man anyway, and all her kids would be trans-non-bins. So they manufactured this Avatar derangement syndrome to have them endlessly spout the same tired disingenuous shit non-stop in hopes people will stop liking Avatar (they won't) and go see their garbage flicks instead (they won't).
>>222613857you already wasted two fucking decades of your life making this shit, dipshit. just retire, retard.
>>222633346Basedbasedbasedbased
>>222633346>90s Jewish values are better than 2020s Jewish valuesyou know what weirdly enough that does kind of sum up what I think of the film in a lot of ways that I don't imagine you intended
I've never seen any of these. Is the first one worth a watch, and does it stand on its own? Can you watch it as a self-contained experience (like the first Matrix)?
>>222633489yeah you can definitely watch the first one by itself
>>222633489You have ro watch them all back to back like Lord of the Rings
Tuktirey is the key to all of this
>>222613929Exotic blue monkeys in Dunc would have distracted from the very thin story + production design.
>>222613857>50 replies and literally not one single person actually read the articleHe's just saying he might move back to just a writer/producer role rather than directing them personally. You people are dumb as shit.>Avatar 4 and 5 remain scheduled for 2029 and 2031 respectively, and part of the fourth film has reportedly already been filmed, but after the release of Fire And Ash, Cameron implied that he now planned to “pull back from being as hands-on with every tiny aspect of the process”.
>>222633363Two of the top three highest grossing films of all time are Avatar movies, anon. Three of the top four were written and directed by Cameron.
>>222613929>whoever gaslit this faggot into thinking people wanted more of these stupid blue monkeys, bravo7 billy gross sales and it makes you seethe every single day
on the bright side, this thread reminded me that rule 34 of Varang exists. thanks for the nut, OP
>>222630086>I would bet the execs are very unhappy odyssey is doing 1 bilok retard
>>222633489>Can you watch it as a self-contained experience (like the first Matrix)?Yes. Watch the extended version though
>>222613857>Actually tragictragic that he made more than one.he could have been making kino instead
>>222635300>>222633499Thanks
He still has time to direct something other than Avatar. Ridley and Clint Eastwood are still making movies.
>>222634851like anyone actually believes the shit they spew about this faggot industry, lies all the way down
THANK FKIGN GMake some 90s action kino again
>>222636228I guess Inside Out must legitimately be the twelfth best movie of all time, or so.
>>222636228Ah yes, a wide ranging conspiracy to kis-report box office revenue therefore defrauding shareholders of billions of dollars of value. Having to fall back to that definitely doesn't prove you're a midwit arguing from a place of mental retardation or anything, nope.
>>222613857>James Cameron implies he’s done making ‘Avatar’ films and is ready to move onIts honestly a tragedy, he could have made such a kino saga out of this, but he really shit the bed with the 3rd one.
>>222613857I think it's tragic because Avatar 2 proved that there's a really interesting entire world to explore with limitless potential. But Avatar 3 was a lazy retread of Avatar 2 and felt like filler. No one wants to spend 3 hours of their life watching filler.Cameron is stuck in his boomer mentality of 'just give them explosions and quips!' completely ignoring that audiences want good stories.I'd love to see his hinted Avatar 5 that takes place on earth. I'd love to see an actual conclusion to the human occupation of Pandora. I'd love to see sci fi magical live-action anime shenanigans. But instead we get uninspired generic repeats.
>>222617844He did. Supposedly.He also promised that Fire and Ash would be a clear conclusion to the story arc. That was a fucking lie though.
>>222623589It's not a flop in itself. It's like how Star Wars 9 earned something like $1.2b give or take. That's a great box office haul. Out of context.In context, you see how much more the previous films in the franchise made and see a very clear downwards trajectory.If WoW made $2.1b and F&A made $1.5b, does that mean that A4 would make $900m? That's a simplifications but it sums up the issue when each films costs $300m+ to make. And remember, if your franchise is perceived to be losing popularity, that image will influence how people actually view it and result in a compounded effect.
>>222636610you mad, hit a little too close to home huh
>>222636293or the starting point of the subversion and extremely blatant corruption
>>222636704>explore with limitless potentialNot really. Everything they could do was already done in 2 without being contrived. Either the humans needed to win or be actually defeated. There needed to be a time skip again further in the future to reset things and use a different location. Otherwise you get Avatar 3 which was always going to be way too similar because it was directly after 2.
>>222613857don't you dare fucking stop now you boomer cunt, make the last 2 movies like a good boy or go down in history as the biggest quitter ever
>nothing in OP article implies what OP says at allof course
>>222637939There's more to do than constantly rehash the same war between the na'avi and humans over Pandora.3 should've been a timeskip and concluded the war with a proper victory that sent (most of) the humans back to earth (all the military).4 should then be the earth film where Jake's forced to lead an invasion army against earth to stop them coming back and open real diplomatic negotiations.5 can then be something completely new. Whether it's an adventure film set on Pandora. A horror film in the same universe. Or just a space marine action film that introduces new aliens. They could literally do anything.But with Cameron dead set on doing it the way he has, 3 should have at least focused on na'avi vs na'avi conflict, with humans taking a massive backseat. Would've let them tell essentially the same story but without feeling so derivative of 2.
>>222636293It's a movie about a cute white girl. What's not to like?
