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>he's the riches man in history according tooo...>one redditorand they like to pretend that site isn't all about propaganda
>>222616814You think they're gonna talk about how his empire was based on slave trading?
Not watching this niggerfest
>>222616814but thats Alberto Barbosa???
>>222616814Let me guess, they will show his famous pilgrimage to Mecca but they will not show his 12k slaves.
>>222616814What is there to say about him, other than that he was a king in a region with lots of gold mines, owned lots of slaves, and made a pilgrimage to Mecca?If only Black people would stop focusing on clout and took an interest in interesting and inspiring figures, maybe they'd stop killing each other over jordans.
>>222616814W E
I really hate Michael Jordan, he's everywherewhy is he Hollywood's token leading negro
>>222616814Wonder how they'll write around the fact that he was the most prolific slaver of the African continent. Will they go the Woman King route by turning the slaver into an abolitionist? Or blame plague ridden malnourished Yuropoors?
>>222616999The black dude from backrooms is the best black actor ive seen since don cheadle
i think its pretty interesting that his predecessor attempted to cross the atlantic and musa took over when he didn't come back
>>222616814we wuz kangz and sheeit
You people are bitching about a nigger movie made by niggers that is actually about niggers. This seems like a win if you think about it.
all that wealth concentrated in one person? sounds like fascism to me. :^)
>>222616814I have no problem with this, although I'll admit the most petty part of me wants anything but a black actor to play this black historical figure as a sort of tit for tat. But yea idk, I hope it does well so that they'll have a reason to make more explicitly black roles instead of replacing everyone else's.
>>222616814>richestThat’s all he’s known for? No positive qualities?
>make up some history nigga>he was rly rich from slavery>got into massive debt showing off how rich he was>shieeeeeeeeet ,he da bestNigs are funny
>>222616814Finally, blacks making movie about blacks and not blackwashing old white movies. >>222616907Pic related
>>222617131Being a baller is the most positive quality, lil homie.
>>222617131none
>>222616814>nigger>richest man in historyChoose ONE.
>>222616999It was funny when they tried to force him as a sex symbol like 10 years ago when he literally has a deformed chin he covers with facial hair.
>>222616814Is Mansa gonna speak in that retarded accent that MBJ does in every Coogler movie?
>>222616841This is what they mean by scraping Reddit for movie ideas.
>>222617095Maybe back when that wasn't every movie even ones where it's entirely a European story.
Very evil of them to assume his pronouns
>>222616814Prediction they won't go the Woman King route and ignore the slavery, instead what will happen is they'll make up a bunch of bullshit about him having a religious awakening and abandoning slavery.
Fuck it. Why not. My man, Coogs!
>>222616814I predict 3 Oscars and 12 nominations.
>The richest man in history,but I though black people were so oppressed.
Behold his legacy.
Naw dat nigga was fly as hell doe
>>222617131>That’s all he’s known for? No positive qualities?Positive by way of a negative quality. He was very naive when in Cairo so he overpaid for EVERYTHING by orders of magnitude. This put so much gold into circulation that it caused massive inflation, which changed the import-export balance between Venice and Egypt and ended up bankrolling the Renaissance.
>>222617784Is that Sijilmasa or Timbuktu?
>>222616814Based
>rich white man exists no war but class war, eat the rich!>rich black man existsAYO GET DAT BAG KANG
>>222616841Remember when Ubisoft made an entire game about a black samurai and everyone discovered he didn’t actually exist?
>>222617858Timbuktu
>>222617863seething?
>>222617887Massa Mune existed dude. Theres a shit ton of historical evidence. He fucking bankrupted egypt JUST BY VISITING THE COUNTRY. Hes a legitimately interesting historical figure.
>richest man in history>leaves no legacy except a mud temple. lmao
>>222617131Oh so being rich isn't a positive quality now? Then how come you haven't forfeited all your riches , huwhite man?
>>222617643Nigga please they won't even mention slavery. They're not going to say a single thing about where his money comes from, and to be fair it's the same sort of autistic nonsense as wondering about Aragorn's tax policy. Realistically no one should ever feel a need to make historical figures complicated by going out of their way to talk about how they felt about slavery. It's pure Marxist pseudointellectual nonsense.The only reason people do it to Western figures like Thomas Jefferson is because they're deliberately building a counter narrative to undermine the legitimacy of our cultural identity.
>>222616841open a book, retard
i loved playing Mansa Musa in Civ VI but Menelik II is the real go-to guy for doing the full jew trade route playstyle. horribly balanced game.
>>222617967kinda like trump
>>222617053the best black actor is al jolson
>>222618018O B S E S S E D
>>222616814The source of his wealth was slavery. Will they address that?>>222617932He didn't. It never happened. You also got the false claim backwards. The claim was that he spent so much gold he devalued it. Historians say there's zero evidence of that.
>>222616911hey, HEY...we don't do the racism in here.
>>222617981>to be fair it's the same sort of autistic nonsense as wondering about Aragorn's tax policy.It's really not>Realistically no one should ever feel a need to make historical figures complicated by going out of their way to talk about how they felt about slavery. It's pure Marxist pseudointellectual nonsense>nuance and complexity are marxism Fucking retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzafFycvJc
>>222618029No u
>>222617784>Behold his legacy.but the french made that
>>222616814>be the richest man in history>do nothing with the wealth, dont build anything or better your people in anyway, die having no legacy other than being really rich at one pointThis shit is embarresing and depressing and idk why blacks take pride in it at all
>mined half the world's goldthe only way that's possible is if the entire continent fumbled harder than anyone has ever fumbled.
>>222616814would be pretty funny if the movie about the most opulent nog has a tiny budget with extensive CG
>>222616814>Mansa MusaWasn't he a massive slave trader?Props to them if they actually do a movie on the African and Arab slave trade.
>>222618404He only traded slaves because the white devil made it profitable. Mansa was forced into it.
>>222617887No, Yasuke did exist, he was just an actual historical footnote so we know very little about his life and there was huge controversy over calling him a samurai since he wasn't.
>>222617131>That’s all he’s known for?Nope, he's also known for squandering all of his (and his entire nation's) wealth.
>>222618129>It's really notIt really is.The fact that Mansa Musa sold slaves has no bearing on his expedition to Egypt, literally the only reason to include it is as a spiteful response to the way leftists bring up the fact Jefferson owned slaves as a sly way to undermine the legitimacy of the US constitution. It's just pure politics.
>>222618228You're just mad that your little buddy Elon will never, ever surpass Musa.
Mansa Musa became extraordinarily wealthy primarily because he controlled the Mali Empire's gold-producing regions and the trade routes connecting them to North Africa.Where the money came fromGold: Mali controlled or dominated access to major West African goldfields, particularly around Bambuk and Boure. Gold was abundant enough that Mali became one of the major suppliers of gold to the Mediterranean world.Salt: The empire also controlled important salt-producing areas, especially Taghaza in the Sahara. Salt was extremely valuable in West Africa and was traded for gold and other goods.Trade taxes: Mali sat across major trans-Saharan trade routes. Merchants traveling through the empire paid customs duties and taxes, providing the state with another huge source of revenue.Imperial conquest: Mansa Musa inherited an already powerful empire and expanded/maintained control over territories containing valuable resources and major trading cities such as Timbuktu and Gao.Agriculture: The empire wasn't just a gold economy. The Niger River and surrounding regions supported substantial agriculture, livestock, and cities, giving the state a large productive base.
>>222616814With no username or date attached I'm assuming you posted the hotep equivalent to those boomer misinformation pages talking about Stallone and Mel taking down woke Hollywood.
>>222618651>source: some bullshit someone said based on very exaggerated accountsAnyway, if niggers are this rich, then Europe was right to colonize Africa and redistribute their resources. How dare Mali horde wealth while Europe suffers.
>>222618404>King GhettoHeh.
>>222618319the french had it restored, it was in ruins when they found it
>>222618651but anon, Elon is an african too :)
>>222618404>>222618767King of Da Homies.
>>222618343Yeah. I always hear that money, the lack specifically, is the only thing holding blacks back. Okay. Mansa had a gorillion dollarydoos of gold to work with, so why did Mali collapse, get conquered by Songhai, and leave no real impact? Where's the great and glorious African golden age of learning and science?
>>222617053Fucking A. He’s amazing in everything he’s in.
>>222618767king of da homies
I honestly always found it a bit racist that the way American public schools try to get black kids interested in history is telling them about the guy who had the most bands
>>222616814This is exactly what the anti woke crowd asked for, though. In response to race swapping such as in Netflix's Cleopatra, people said>instead of replacing white historical figures with black actors, why not tell stories about back historical figures?so that's exactly what they did. Yet chuds will still find a way to complain about it.
>>222618441>nooooo they forced me to become the richest slave trader in history
>>222616907It always cracks me up when I see lmao lol knowing where it came from.
>>222618903as long as they show all the ugly shit too of coursebut we both know they won't, just like they did with that woman king shit
>>222618903wait for it, it'll be the most racist movie ever.>meeting with consulate from portugal or something>"come, silly wh*te people, let me teach you how the wheel and combustion engines and electricity works. for i am kangz."
>>222616814I hope this is true and I hope it turns out awesomeThis is exactly what I want black filmmakers in Hollywood to do: Create awesome historical movies & tvshows about people who were ACTUALLY black instead of blackwashing europeans. I see no reason to hate on this
>>222619166>I see no reason to hate on thisWait until you see the slave traders before you say that.
>>222616814Wasn't this guy a massive slave trader?
>>222616814>blocks your pathn-bros, your response?
>>222617037He will free the slaves from oppressors and give them better lives in bondage than they had in freedom.
>>222617932>Theres a shit ton of historical evidence.There are two Arab accounts, one was written hundreds of years after he existed. Both were also racist and essentially were calling him a dumb nigger doing the medieval equivalent of buying a hellcat when you're dodging your rent payments. There is also Malian oral history that mentions him once. That also calls him a dumb nigger for spending all their money, and considers him one of Mali's worst rules.There's also no evidence of Mamluk currency being inflated as a result of his visit, and Mamluk currency inflation is actually a well documented historical field, unlike Mansa Musa. There's also the claim that he spent all this money building mosques, but no one can name a mosque in Egypt that was built by him.Redditors will scoff at Jesus being the Son of God but the historical evidence for that is both more numerous and reliable than the evidence that Mansa Musa even existed, let alone was the richest man in the world.Crash Course World History and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>>222617854There's no evidence for any of the absurd Mansa Musa claims. Everything about him is from 3rd hand accounts. The first thing written about him is from a semi-fiction book and the information was from a guy that heard something from his grandfather 50 years after it happened. That is how credible the Mansa Musa story is.
>>222617981They'd mention slavery if it were a European enslaving Africans.
>>222617981There's plenty of slaves working gold mines in ASOIAF.
>>222617932>Theres a shit ton of historical evidence. 0 first hand accounts. Everything is from conjecture assuming his stories are real.
>>222618343>do nothing with the wealth, dont build anything or better your people in anyway, die having no legacy other than being really rich at one pointThis is modern day Africa. Their rich do nothing to improve their country. They only buy expensive European goods.
It's really funny that you guys are so butthurt about the idea of a black guy who ruled a place with lots of gold mines being rich by the standards of places without many gold mines but that still used gold as currency. This is one of many reasons the gold standard is bad, btw.
>>222620038I think the one guy is butthurt about the lack of contemporary firsthand accounts. I kind of get it. Herodotus was a bullshitter in a way Xenophon wasn't.
>>222619525Yes. All African kingdoms traded slaves. But please leave that out and only show European invaders enslaving Africans.
>>222620038>lots of gold minesMining was not invented in Mali. The first mines to be built there were built by the French in the 17th-18th century.
>>222616814black people wanna oppress so bad
>>222617784
>>222616814
>>222616841>they like to pretend that site isn't all about propagandaHe says on 4channel, where worldviews are built off of what one guy on /pol/ said
>>222616814>most notable black guy in history>literally just the ancient version of those guys walking around african slums with bright colored suits alternatively, african warlord with gold-plated AKI'd say you can't make this up, but since there's practically no actual evidence he did any of the things they say he did, I guess you can.
>>222618770imagine how bad it must've looked beforehand.
>>222618767King Ghetto of Da Homey tribe, ancient rulers of the land of Gibsme-dat
>Exorbitantly Rich Man: White> >:(>Exorbitantly Rich Man: Black> :O
>>222617131he had the most slaves in history
>>222620297I just remembered all the Elon hate posts when he became a trillionaire. It's not even real money, it's just stocks.
>>222618343A tale as old as time, just look at how the "rich" in modern day Africa act.
>>222620221>100 acre palaceDamn that sounds opulent
>>222617999and read that he was a footnote to egyptians,next you should listen to his peoples oral history deriding him for squandering their wealth
>>222617999chuds don't read
>>222620230I'd believe one guy on /pol/ over one guy on reddit.
>>222620421And thus the current state of the website
>>222616907mali wasnt based on slave trading,but picking up gold from the ground and trading it to arabs for food
>>222620158Are you sure you want to argue that it took white men to show them how to dig holes?
>>222620421grim
>>222620438thats not mining. thats digging.
>>222620352Africa must have their own version of izzat for this to be a thing.
>>222616814Is that Moses?
>>222620484fag
>>222620438Maybe you are Malian if you think you can build a mine by just digging a hole.I'm 1000% willing to argue that there were no mines in Mali before the French because there were none. Even if you think a mine is a big hole, there would be archaeological evidence.
>>222620430better than reddit
>>222620430>>222620484What's the big deal? At least /pol/ can provide a corroborating inforgraph (or nowadays, x post), the best reddit can provide is a smug "are you really going to disagree with me right now?" with no further evidence like >>222620438
>whites tell blacks to "make their own movies">they dowhat's the problem, exactly?
>>222620744>can provide a corroborating inforgraph**A schizophrenic image showing a nonsensical connection to blame everything on outsiders
>>222620744>the best reddit can provide is a smug "are you really going to disagree with me right now?" with no further evidenceYou mean the "leftist discourse" twitter image?
>>222620844No one is saying they can't or shouldn't.
>>222620744>At least /pol/ can provide a corroborating inforgraph (or nowadays, x post)lmao they dont even do that. right now in those hyden panettiere threads they are gloating about her dying from the vaccine when their evidence is a twitter image with the wrong date, with a tweet text thats actually bidens tweet that was made 6 months after the supposed tweet.unironically fake news and they are falling for it, its that grim.
>>222616907It will be like that movie about the black slave trader tribe, they're going to make him hecking anti-slavery and wholesome chungus
>>222620247The French probably added all the phallic shapes
>>222616907they should, but make it based on trading whites as slaves, just to go for the maximum pol salt, lmao. imagine how salty they would get if its just 2 straight hours of whites being whipped while mansa rolls in the slavebitches balls deep
>>222620484>>222620430>people who believe in facts, logic and statistics vs.... a bot from the governmenthmmmm
>>222617095People are bitching because it’s going to be another revisionist pro-nigger slop like the woman Kangz and hidden figures movie. Mansa Musa is a fictional figure invented by kikes in the early 20th century to give niggers some sense of pride. The genesis of that idea was some nigger tribe leader who was one of the biggest slave traders in West Africa during the colonial era. Niggers are so stupid that they genuinely believe that Zamunda and Wakanda are real places. My aunt owns a travel agency and she opened a branch in Chicago a decade ago and she loves to tell the story of how many stupid nigger inquiries about Wakanda her employees have to hear after Black Panther came out.
>>222621176>>222620942
>>222620844Jokes on you /tv loves it when Africans make movies. Who Killed Captain Alex is a cult favorite
>>222620438Maybe he is intending that, but it's technically correct that there were no gold mines in Mali.It was a trade route, Mansa Musa would have gotten his wealth from taxing travelling gold and salt merchants.
>>222616814Mansa Musa was not the richest man in history.
>>222620855It's something.>>222620942You're literally agreeing with me here.
>>222616814>literal sole sub saharan civillization of note in all of history>propped up by arabs giving them shit for their gold(they didnt mine, it was all surface deposits)>their "civillization" consisted of literally just the emperor going around flaunting his wealth to various empires who were happy to take all the gold he was throwing away>no farming, bunch of mud huts, were largely muslim because only arabs were willing to deal with their retardation for endless free gold basicallyBut hey they were black so we have to pretend they were more influential than the british empire
>>222620942>>222621181its shitposting and you are reddit spacing
mansa musathe dude so rich no one ever heard about him before
>>222620221The wakanda versailles
>>222616814Mansa Musa simply doesn't have an interesting story. He's just a meme because of the gold. Meanwhile, Sundiata, who founded the Mali Empire not only has a great story, but a whole epic you could easily film. But because nobody is actually interested in African history/myth, it'll never happen.
Niggers will seethe and cry but they know they have always been niggers, are niggers now and will be niggers forever. No nigger has ever contributed anything good to this world.
>>222617887Well he existed but was more a pet than a person, his master dressed him as a samurai to laught, like putting a hat on your dog
>>222616814I wonder how he transported all that gold won his journeys. Perhaps he used paid, voluntary workers to carry it for him
>>222620221Looks like a mud motel
>>222621509This is what pisses me off. There are very interesting guys like this all over history across the entire world, but because some meme retard who is known for his gold enters the public consciousness, there will never be anything interesting made about him.
>>222621177Ayo lil anon holla at yo auntie, finna get me a ticket to Wakanda hurd #passportbro
>>222616814This is going to be so full of weird afrocentrism it's going to be an unintentional comedy.
>>222620942>unironically fake news and they are falling for itUnironically isn't a word.Ironic is.Like, for example, you making this post in this specific thread, would be ironic.
>>222623019>Unironically isn't a word.Tis tho.
>>222623019>their next movie is black panther 3... there was a black panther 2?
>>222616814He really is just trying to speed run being the “black” actor isn’t he?
>>222616841He built his wealth by selling slaves lol
>>222620438Hardly an argument to begin with, is it?
>>222616814You mean the guy who owned like a million slaves?I wonder how they'll turn him into a hero
>>222621320lmao right right
What's funny is that the same people who HATE and want to unalive the wealthy will LOVE this movie and simp for the actor and character. Well, not really funny exactly, more like evil, racist, stupid, dangerous and fucked.
>>222623375they'll show him being nice to his slaves and helping them out occasionally, like they did with george washington in "young washington".
>>222623375Slavery is only wrong when white people do it.
>>222619667I look like this, but I'm poor.
>>222616911may it haunt your dreams for now, and forever
>Zero movies about Cetshwayo who somewhat orchestrated the Anglo-Zulu war
Despite never watching a single movie or series of his outside of The Wire, I can't stand Michael B Jordan
>>222616814>have a lot of gold>spend it until the price of gold is loweredby the fuck is hollywood a brown supremacist shithole anyway
>blacks want to make a movie about a guy obsessed with material wealth and showing it off to everyone he meetswhoa crazy
>>222616814>go to Wikipedia>check the sources cited for various claims about him>a BBC documentary>another documentary>not a single actual source
This could be fun. Make it a comedy. Some rare, extremely rich, black dude ruining the "industry" and economy of various African countries in whimsical ways as he makes his way to Mekka.
>>222624323It was real in my mind, it was real in my mind.
>>222616814Dudes one of the worst leaders ever. He was fortunate enough that his kingdom had a productive gold mine. Instead of spending that gold to improve his kingdom he decides to save it all so he can give it all away on his journey to mecca. Imagine living in some shitty hut while watching your leader donate all his gold so he can look impressive to the arabs.
>>222624455>Imagine living in some shitty hut while watching your leader donate all his gold so he can look impressive to the arabs.You have no concept of value so you wouldn't care. It is just a shiny rock to you.
>richest man in historyThere has never been any concrete data on this fact by the way. It's known he was the ruler of the Mali Empire and controlled a lot of gold, but it's never actually stated in correctly in any historical texts and everything comes from like 10th hand account from dozens of different sources. Nothing is ever explicitly writ down. What is known is that he was notoriously bad with what money he had. He crashed the value of gold in Cairo, which lasted over 12 years and he was forced to buy back all of that gold to help stabilize the currency because his own wealth was flatlining because of it. And no Historian has ever been able to accurately guess his wealth. Even the highest end numbers, even if you adjust for inflation put it at 400 billion, which is lower than names like Elon Musk. If we're talking about organizations because Mansa Musa was essentially an organization being the leader of an empire, then the East India Company is estimated wealth is well over 7 trillion.It should also be known he was the biggest African slave trader at his time of rule.
>>222620247it was just crumbled ruins>>222621047there were drawings of the originalthe french were idiots for not genociding africans
>>222624607>He crashed the value of gold in Cairo, which lasted over 12 yearsYou were doing so well before this. No proof of this ever happened. There are records of gold value from this time and we see little change from his adventure.
>>222624607>There has never been any concrete data on this fact by the way.i think there is more emphasis on the fact that he destabilized the mediterranean than there should be, most of those towns were shit poorif he went and buttfucked venice around that time i would be more inclined to believe he was the richest man to ever live relative to his peers
>>222624607There's a medieval map from Spain that had a picture of him saying "Mansa Musa - the richest man in the region" and eventually pop history fags turned 'region' into 'world' because they need to throw black people a bone.
>>222624662There is more evidence of his visit to Cairo than his claims of wealth, which I'll admit isn't much at all. Which should only raise more suspicions of his claims of being the richest man in the world. This is from Syrian scholar Shihab al-Din al-Umari writing around 12 years after his (Mansa's) pilgrimage.>“This man flooded Cairo with his benefactions… They exchanged gold until they depressed its value in Egypt and caused its price to fall… Gold was at a high price in Egypt until they came in that year. The mithqal did not go below 25 dirhams and was generally above, but from that time its value fell and it cheapened in price and has remained cheap till now. The mithqal does not exceed 22 dirhams or less. This has been the state of affairs for about twelve years… by reason of the large amount of gold which they brought into Egypt and spent there.”I will admit there is contention over this fact, but again, this is the closest thing we have to a first hand account. Literally every other bit of written information we have on Mansa's wealth or spending comes from dozens of different people and constantly changing hands.
